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1. 01:37 AM - Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 16 Msgs - 10/05/08 (Graham & Robin Hewitt)
2. 06:19 AM - Re: Latex status report pictures - 3 (Rick Holland)
3. 06:22 AM - Re: 3-Piece Wing Rib Question (Rick Holland)
4. 06:23 AM - Re: 3-Piece Wing Rib Question (Rick Holland)
5. 06:43 AM - Latex paint test (Oscar Zuniga)
6. 07:11 AM - Re: elevator cables: in good company (Bill Church)
7. 11:37 AM - Johns Piet builders prayer (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
8. 11:48 AM - Re: Latex status report pictures - 3 (amsafetyc@aol.com)
9. 12:05 PM - Re: Johns Piet builders prayer (TOM STINEMETZE)
10. 12:38 PM - Pietenpol : [ Bill Church ] : New Email List PhotoShare Available! (Email List PhotoShares)
11. 01:07 PM - Yahoo Pietenpol group (Oscar Zuniga)
12. 01:09 PM - Pietenpol : [ Oscar Zuniga ] : New Email List PhotoShare Available! (Email List PhotoShares)
13. 01:13 PM - Pietenpol : [ Oscar Zuniga ] : New Email List PhotoShare Available! (Email List PhotoShares)
14. 01:32 PM - Pietenpol : [ EAA Builder ] : New Email List PhotoShare Available! (Email List PhotoShares)
15. 06:44 PM - Re: Johns Piet builders prayer (Clif Dawson)
16. 07:17 PM - Re: elevator cables: in good company (Clif Dawson)
17. 11:49 PM - Email alteration (clem)
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| Subject: | RE: Pietenpol-List Digest: 16 Msgs - 10/05/08 |
Hi all
Sorry butTiger Moth elevator cables did not rub on the top of the tail
plane , they were joined to a rod which went thru a bearing tube which
was bolted to the top of the tail plane this had to be greased.
Have sent several posts re Tufnol bushes for holes thru longerons for
metal fittings these have not appeared.
Now making cabanes for the C/S great fun.
Regards Graham Hewitt
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| Subject: | Re: Latex status report pictures - 3 |
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| Subject: | Re: 3-Piece Wing Rib Question |
Thank you for the correction, six reinforced ribs and only four of those
with 1/16" ply on one side.
Rick
On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 9:15 PM, <catdesigns@att.net> wrote:
> Thanks Guys, it sounds like I need to make 4 more. One clarification. I
> think I only need the plywood on the two center section and the two inner
> wing panel ribs. Basically the 4 new ones needed because if the 3-piece
> design. Is this correct?
>
> Chris Tracy
> Sacramento, Ca
> Website at http://www.WestCoastPiet.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com>
> *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> *Sent:* Sunday, October 05, 2008 4:16 PM
> *Subject:* Re: Pietenpol-List: 3-Piece Wing Rib Question
>
> Ditto. Some say the 1/16 ply on one side of the six "outside" ribs is not
> needed but others say it makes covering the ends easier (and with very
> little extra weight).
>
> Rick
>
> On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 3:52 PM, Richard Schreiber <lmforge@earthlink.net>wrote:
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>> lmforge@earthlink.net>
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>> Thats what I did, with 1/16" ply sheeting on the outside of the butt ribs
>> of the two wing halves and the outside two ribs on the center section.
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>> Rick Schreiber
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>> > [Original Message]
>> > From: <catdesigns@att.net>
>> > To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
>> > Date: 10/5/2008 5:37:02 PM
>> > Subject: Pietenpol-List: 3-Piece Wing Rib Question
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>> > If I am building the 3-piece wing, do I need to build 6 ribs with the
>> > additional bracing, instead of two as called for on the plans?
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>> > Chris Tracy
>> > Sacramento, Ca
>> > Website at http://www.WestCoastPiet.com
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| Subject: | Re: 3-Piece Wing Rib Question |
Not stupid, correct.
>
>
> This may be a stupid question, but for clarification: if you decide to skin
> the ribs you would omit the gussets from that side, and instead apply 3
> large "skins". One from leading edge of the rib to the forward side of the
> front spar, one from the rear side of the front spar to the front side of
> the rear spar, and finally one from the rear side of the rear spar to the
> trailing edge of the rib. If holes need to be cut for cables, etc, you would
> do so. Would that be the correct basic procedure?
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Castle Rock, Colorado
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| Subject: | Latex paint test |
Rick was kind enough to send me his photos on the latex paint test and I've put
them up on a webpage along with his narrative to go with it. I edited some of
it (hope you don't mind, Rick). It's at
http://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/latex.html
Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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| Subject: | elevator cables: in good company |
I believe the routing of the Tiger Moth elevator cables is such that the
cable would ALWAYS make contact with the top of the leading edge of the
horizontal stabilizer, not just when the cables are slack (as on the
Pietenpol), thus the need for a support for the cable.
Here are a couple of links to photos that clearly show the cable support
mentioned by Graham. I'm sure if you look closely again at the photos in the
Sport Aviation article, you'll see them there, too.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Tiger_cables.JPG
http://picasaweb.google.com/louisrbourque/VintageWingsOfCanada#5220117080170
279010
Bill C.
--> <grhewitt@globaldial.com>
Hi all
Sorry butTiger Moth elevator cables did not rub on the top of the tail
plane , they were joined to a rod which went thru a bearing tube which was
bolted to the top of the tail plane this had to be greased.
Regards Graham Hewitt
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Oscar Zuniga
Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 10:03 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: elevator cables: in good company
--> <taildrags@hotmail.com>
Just getting around to reading some of my magazines and gazing at the
gorgeous Tiger Moth on the cover of the May issue of Sport Aviation, it
dawned on me that the elevator cables on that beautiful airplane are rubbing
on the leading edge of the horizontal stabilizer, just like the Pietenpol.
Who says Mr. Pietenpol made a mistake in the cable geometry?!!! ;o)
Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC, with elevator cables proudly rubbing the LE of the HS San
Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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| Subject: | Johns Piet builders prayer |
I came up with this one today and I felt moved to share it with the Piet
Builders. I think its fitting, or that during this weekend there was just too
much saw dust in the air to think straight. I may engrave it on a plaque for my
shop as it captures the essence of the build.
Spent the weekend laying out the tail feathers and cutting edge material for
leading and trailing edges, a lot of time and a lot of router yields a bunch
of scrap lumber and loads of saw dust, shavings and chip to clean up. It sue
felt good to get back to the important things in life like makin sawdust!
God its great,
God its good,
Building my Piet from glue and wood
By these hands, made my cheap tools dead
I pray to God for good ones instead!
John
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| Subject: | Re: Latex status report pictures - 3 |
There is a yahoo pietenpol group?
News to me
John
------Original Message------
From: charles loomis
Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
ReplyTo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Oct 5, 2008 11:31 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Latex status report pictures - 3
I'm very interested in this test, but the server kicked the pics again, what about
posting them in the Yahoo, Pietenpol group?
Charley
--- On Mon, 10/6/08, Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com> wrote:
> From: Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com>
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Latex status report pictures - 3
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Date: Monday, October 6, 2008, 10:40 AM
>
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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| Subject: | Re: Johns Piet builders prayer |
Be careful what you ask for! That could be interpreted as meaning "Give
me good dead tools."
Tom Stinemetze
McPherson, KS
do not archive
God its great,
God its good,
Building my Piet from glue and wood
By these hands, made my cheap tools dead
I pray to God for good ones instead!
John
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| Subject: | Pietenpol : [ Bill Church ] : New Email List PhotoShare |
Available!
(Listers - Sorry for the delay in processing this Photoshare; all of the incoming
Photoshares where getting caught by my email client's spam filter. I wondered
why nobody had posted a Photoshare in a long while... I've fixed the filter
and Photoshares should be processed in a normal period of time now. -Matt)
A new Email List PhotoShare is available:
Poster: Bill Church <billspiet@sympatico.ca>
Lists: Pietenpol-List
Subject: Pietenpol Movie
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/billspiet@sympatico.ca.10.06.2008
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| Subject: | Yahoo Pietenpol group |
Yes, apparently there IS a Pietenpol group on Yahoo. I wasn't aware of it either
but it shows 106 members and that list has existed since 2002. Couple of dozen
posts in those six years. This list gets that many posts in six DAYS (but
that is not always an indication of the quality of the list).
For anyone interested, there is a "fun fly-in" scheduled for this Saturday, Oct. 11 at Kerrville, TX. This was the original home of the "SWRFI" (Southwest Regional Fly-In) originated by the EAA chapter of which the late Tony Bingelis was a member. This one is "no frills, no instructions, no airshow, no registration". Info is here: http://www.texasflyin.org/calendar.htm
Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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| Subject: | Pietenpol : [ Oscar Zuniga ] : New Email List PhotoShare |
Available!
(Listers - Sorry for the delay in processing this Photoshare; all of the incoming
Photoshares where getting caught by my email client's spam filter. I wondered
why nobody had posted a Photoshare in a long while... I've fixed the filter
and Photoshares should be processed in a normal period of time now. -Matt)
A new Email List PhotoShare is available:
Poster: Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com>
Lists: Pietenpol-List
Subject: W&B Spreadsheet
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| Subject: | Pietenpol : [ Oscar Zuniga ] : New Email List PhotoShare |
Available!
(Listers - Sorry for the delay in processing this Photoshare; all of the incoming
Photoshares where getting caught by my email client's spam filter. I wondered
why nobody had posted a Photoshare in a long while... I've fixed the filter
and Photoshares should be processed in a normal period of time now. -Matt)
A new Email List PhotoShare is available:
Poster: Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com>
Lists: Pietenpol-List
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| Subject: | Pietenpol : [ EAA Builder ] : New Email List PhotoShare |
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(Listers - Sorry for the delay in processing this Photoshare; all of the incoming
Photoshares where getting caught by my email client's spam filter. I wondered
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Lists: Kolb-List,Ultralight-List,Pietenpol-List
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| Subject: | Re: Johns Piet builders prayer |
No! Not in the shop!
On the fridge just before Christmas!
:-) :-)
Clif
----- Original Message -----
From: AMsafetyC@aol.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 11:34 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Johns Piet builders prayer
I may engrave it on a plaque for my shop as it captures the essence
of the build.
God its great,
God its good,
Building my Piet from glue and wood
By these hands, made my cheap tools dead
I pray to God for good ones instead!
John
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| Subject: | Re: elevator cables: in good company |
RE: Pietenpol-List: elevator cables: in good company
And the DH-4 mailplane would also have rubbing cables except for two
little tiny roller
pulleys mounted on the leading edge. You could do that if you're
REALLY concerned.
Something else Dehaviland liked to do was install bracing cables from
the horn back
to the trailing edge.
Clif
I believe the routing of the Tiger Moth elevator cables is such that
the cable would ALWAYS make contact with the top of the leading edge of
the horizontal stabilizer, not just when the cables are slack (as on the
Pietenpol), thus the need for a support for the cable.
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| Subject: | Email alteration |
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