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1. 12:08 AM - Re: Narco ELT-10 battery corrosion (Ryan Mueller)
2. 07:35 AM - YouTube video of first engine start (Oscar Zuniga)
3. 07:52 AM - Anyone leave their Piet uncovered on a tie-down? (Tom Anderson)
4. 09:29 AM - Re: Anyone leave their Piet uncovered on a tie-down? (Gene & Tammy)
5. 10:49 AM - Re: Anyone leave their Piet uncovered on a tie-down? (Tom Anderson)
6. 11:37 AM - Re: Re: Anyone leave their Piet uncovered on a tie-down? (Steve Eldredge)
7. 01:05 PM - Re: Anyone leave their Piet uncovered on a tie-down? (H RULE)
8. 01:57 PM - Re: Anyone leave their Piet uncovered on a tie-down? (KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP)
9. 02:24 PM - Re: Anyone leave their Piet uncovered on a tie-down? (Robert Gow)
10. 03:20 PM - Re: Anyone leave their Piet uncovered on a tie-down? (KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP)
11. 07:51 PM - Re: Anyone leave their Piet uncovered on a tie-down? (Glenn Thomas)
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Subject: | Re: Narco ELT-10 battery corrosion |
One of the things with that, Ernie, is that replacement of the entire ELT
(especially assuming an upgrade to a more current model) will be far more
expensive than just replacing the battery (if that is the issue, or if Oscar
feels he needs to do that).
In addition, as of right now there is no requirement stating that you have
to replace an ELT that broadcasts on 121.5/243 mhz with one that can also
broadcast on the satellite-monitored digital 406 mhz frequency. This change,
as of now, only reflects the fact that satellites will only monitor 406.
Standard air and ground resources will still be monitoring the older freqs.
Personally, I have never heard of anyone flying out of the general aviation
airports I frequent having their ELT detected by satellite. Either the
Unicom/Tower/CAP checks up on the transmissions from those frequencies and
thats how you find out they were triggered (9 times out of 10 a hard
landing).
Either way, it's up to Oscar. His SASO missions (stability and support ops)
in his area have gone pretty well. He's been providing ground support in the
area for a while. All in all he has put forth a solid TACO presence in his
AOR. Unless some new foe rears his ugly head, I think Oscar ought to be good
to go.
;)
Semper Gumby. Only one more day until I completely own my own butt, for
good!
Ryan
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 12:31 AM, Ernie Moreno <ewmoreno@minetfiber.com>wrote:
> ewmoreno@minetfiber.com>
>
> Oscar, I would get rid of the ELT. You will have to clean up the corrossion
> issue anyway and remount the new frequency model in the place of the old
> one. I recently became a member on this group (matronics) and I am going to
> build another Piet but this time Model A powered. I still have N2431and did
> a overhaul on the Franklin. I am now in the unemployed group (i.e. retired)
> and need to have something to keep me busy.
>
> Ernie Moreno
> Independence, Or.
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Subject: | YouTube video of first engine start |
Dan, great video. I notice you had all the proper procedures in place and had
a fire extinguisher placed at the ready. When I did the startup on my A65 after
the rebuild (new carb, airbox, exhausts, etc.) I did the same thing and was
glad because I had fueled it with autogas and the Stromberg didn't like that,
leaking fuel and flooding the airbox. Had a fire broken out I would have needed
the extinguisher in a hurry and it would have needed to be ready at hand.
With avgas, no flooding and no worries and I can start the engine almost on the
first flip every time, even without impulse couplers on either mag. 41CC is
running strong, flying well (except for the corrosion around the ELT!) and only
needs a few things looked at when I get some hangar time. At the moment, we
are flying patrol to maintain peace during these times of economic distress and
political upheaval. I've seen no riots or heard of no financiers jumping off
of building ledges, so I assume that the mission is being effective. I shall
continue to fly patrol without letting up!
Ernie, good to hear that you're going to build another Piet, but how in the world
are you going to fit another project into your hangar/garage??? Last time
I was there you had the Piet, Tri-Pacer, Gypsy, and something else in there already!
Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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Subject: | Anyone leave their Piet uncovered on a tie-down? |
...just wondering...
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Location: Eastern N.C.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 8886#208886
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Subject: | Re: Anyone leave their Piet uncovered on a tie-down? |
Good question Tom. I don't leave mine out doors as I have always had a
hanger and hangers here in Tennessee are cheap. In Alaska, (where I'm from)
most planes spend their lives out doors and the only time their under cover
is while their being worked on. Most of the early bush planes were open
cockpit, wood framed and covered in cotton. From what I've been lead to
understand, they did quite well. After all, the wood is varnished and the
fabric is painted. Not unlike a wooden boat. Wood boats are painted or
varnished and the decks are covered with fabric that is painted.
As I remember, Pilots in Alaska figure their plane would need recovering
about every dozen years or so, due to UV effects on the fabric.
Do not consider the above information to be anything more than hearsay, as,
as I said, I don't have any personal experience with leaving my Piet out.
I'm only passing on what I have read and heard. It will be interesting to
hear from someone that has left their Piet out.
Gene in Tennessee
Do Not Archive
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Subject: | Re: Anyone leave their Piet uncovered on a tie-down? |
Thanks, Gene.
I've got a couple of wooden boats in my backyard right now that I built and no
matter how particular I was during the construction process, they both have ended
up with some wood rot/fungus here and there. It's usually from the fiberglass
cloth/epoxy pulling up from the wood. I'm thinking the fabric covering on
an aircraft my provide a bit more protection...
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Location: Eastern N.C.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 8904#208904
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Subject: | Re: Anyone leave their Piet uncovered on a tie-down? |
I left mine out in the sun, snow and ice for over a year. I was happy to get it
in a hangar as soon as I could afford one. I always worried about hail, high
winds, curious fingers, deep snow, etc. Things turned out all right however,
with no major damage or loss. The wood prop seemed to suffer the most weathering.
Steve e.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom Anderson
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 11:49 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Anyone leave their Piet uncovered on a tie-down?
Thanks, Gene.
I've got a couple of wooden boats in my backyard right now that I built and no
matter how particular I was during the construction process, they both have ended
up with some wood rot/fungus here and there. It's usually from the fiberglass
cloth/epoxy pulling up from the wood. I'm thinking the fabric covering on
an aircraft my provide a bit more protection...
--------
Location: Eastern N.C.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 8904#208904
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Subject: | Re: Anyone leave their Piet uncovered on a tie-down? |
I pay $250.00/mo. Cnd and that is why both my planes are up for sale now.Wh
en I get them =0Asold I'll be looking for something I can leave out for a s
eason then trailer it or just leave it out all year round.=0A=0A=0A=0Ado no
t archive=0A=0A=0A=0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: Gene & Tammy <zhar
vey@bellsouth.net>=0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Wednesday, Oc
tober 15, 2008 12:29:23 PM=0ASubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Anyone leave thei
"Gene & Tammy" <zharvey@bellsouth.net>=0A=0AGood question Tom.- I don't l
eave mine out doors as I have always had a =0Ahanger and hangers here in Te
nnessee are cheap.- In Alaska, (where I'm from) =0Amost planes spend thei
r lives out doors and the only time their under cover =0Ais while their bei
ng worked on.- Most of the early bush planes were open =0Acockpit, wood f
ramed and covered in cotton.- From what I've been lead to =0Aunderstand,
they did quite well.- After all, the wood is varnished and the =0Afabric
is painted.- Not unlike a wooden boat.- Wood boats are painted or =0Ava
rnished and the decks are covered with fabric that is painted.=0AAs I remem
ber, Pilots in Alaska figure their plane would need recovering =0Aabout eve
ry dozen years or so, due to UV effects on the fabric.=0ADo not consider th
e above information to be anything more than hearsay, as, =0Aas I said, I d
on't have any personal experience with leaving my Piet out. =0AI'm only pas
sing on what I have read and heard.- It will be interesting to =0Ahear fr
om someone that has left their Piet out.=0AGene in Tennessee=0A=0ADo Not Ar
-=- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -Matt Drall
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Subject: | Re: Anyone leave their Piet uncovered on a tie-down? |
Try this plane!
http://www.zenithair.com/zodiac/ch650/index.html
It is a light sport special kit build for around 18K us funds(none of that
Canada paper in good old USA)! Harvey, I am still building my pietenpol but
his is going to be the flying get me where I am going plane with a corvair
hanging off the front!
-
Ken H
Fargo, ND
-
--- On Wed, 10/15/08, H RULE <harvey.rule@rogers.com> wrote:
From: H RULE <harvey.rule@rogers.com>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Anyone leave their Piet uncovered on a tie-dow
n?
I pay $250.00/mo. Cnd and that is why both my planes are up for sale now.Wh
en I get them
sold I'll be looking for something I can leave out for a season then traile
r it or just leave it out all year round.
-
-
-
do not archive
----- Original Message ----
From: Gene & Tammy <zharvey@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 12:29:23 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Anyone leave their Piet uncovered on a tie-dow
n?
>
Good question Tom.- I don't leave mine out doors as I have always had a
hanger and hangers here in Tennessee are cheap.- In Alaska, (where I'm fr
om)
most planes spend their lives out doors and the only time their under cover
is while their being worked on.- Most of the early bush planes were open
cockpit, wood framed and covered in cotton.- From what I've been lead to
understand, they did quite well.- After all,
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Subject: | Anyone leave their Piet uncovered on a tie-down? |
It's a neat plane. The original factory is here in Midland Ontario ad there
are a couple on the ramp.. They have a subsidiary in New Mexico to handle
the US market. The neatest part of the design is the lack of aileron
hinges. they just use the upper skin as a hinge. The alloy selected for
the upper skin can tolerate the deflections without fatiguing.
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of KMHeide, BA,
CPO, FAAOP
Sent: October 15, 2008 4:58 PM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Anyone leave their Piet uncovered on a
tie-down?
Try this plane!
http://www.zenithair.com/zodiac/ch650/index.html
It is a light sport special kit build for around 18K us funds(none
of that Canada paper in good old USA)! Harvey, I am still building my
pietenpol but his is going to be the flying get me where I am going plane
with a corvair hanging off the front!
Ken H
Fargo, ND
--- On Wed, 10/15/08, H RULE <harvey.rule@rogers.com> wrote:
From: H RULE <harvey.rule@rogers.com>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Anyone leave their Piet uncovered on
a tie-down?
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2008, 3:04 PM
I pay $250.00/mo. Cnd and that is why both my planes are up for
sale now.When I get them
sold I'll be looking for something I can leave out for a season
then trailer it or just leave it out all year round.
do not archive
----- Original Message ----
From: Gene & Tammy <zharvey@bellsouth.net>
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 12:29:23 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Anyone leave their Piet uncovered on
a tie-down?
<zharvey@bellsouth.net>
Good question Tom. I don't leave mine out doors as I have always
had a
hanger and hangers here in Tennessee are cheap. In Alaska, (where
I'm from)
most planes spend their lives out doors and the only time their
under cover
is while their being worked on. Most of the early bush planes
were open
cockpit, wood framed and covered in cotton. From what I've been
lead to
understand, they did quite well. After all,
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Subject: | Anyone leave their Piet uncovered on a tie-down? |
What is your price in Canada? Cheaper?
-
Ken
-
--- On Wed, 10/15/08, Robert Gow <rgow@avionicsdesign.ca> wrote:
From: Robert Gow <rgow@avionicsdesign.ca>
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Anyone leave their Piet uncovered on a tie-dow
n?
It's a neat plane.- The original factory is here in Midland Ontario ad th
ere are a couple on the ramp..- They have a subsidiary in New Mexico to h
andle the US market.- The neatest part of the design is the lack of ailer
on hinges.- they just use the upper skin as a hinge.- The alloy selecte
d for the upper skin can tolerate the deflections without fatiguing.
-
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-lis
t-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP
Sent: October 15, 2008 4:58 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Anyone leave their Piet uncovered on a tie-dow
n?
Try this plane!
http://www.zenithair.com/zodiac/ch650/index.html
It is a light sport special kit build for around 18K us funds(none of that
Canada paper in good old USA)! Harvey, I am still building my pietenpol but
his is going to be the flying get me where I am going plane with a corvair
hanging off the front!
-
Ken H
Fargo, ND
-
--- On Wed, 10/15/08, H RULE <harvey.rule@rogers.com> wrote:
From: H RULE <harvey.rule@rogers.com>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Anyone leave their Piet uncovered on a tie-dow
n?
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I pay $250.00/mo. Cnd and that is why both my planes are up for sale now.Wh
en I get them
sold I'll be looking for something I can leave out for a season then traile
r it or just leave it out all year round.
-
-
-
do not archive
----- Original Message ----
From: Gene & Tammy <zharvey@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 12:29:23 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Anyone leave their Piet uncovered on a tie-dow
n?
>
Good question Tom.- I don't leave mine out doors as I have always had a
hanger and hangers here in Tennessee are cheap.- In Alaska, (where I'm fr
om)
most planes spend their lives out doors and the only time their under cover
is while their being worked on.- Most of the early bush planes were open
cockpit, wood framed and covered in cotton.- From what I've been lead to
understand, they did quite well.- After all,
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Subject: | Re: Anyone leave their Piet uncovered on a tie-down? |
This is a low cost alternative to leaving your plane outside.....
http://www.shelterlogic.com/engineered-structures/
I got one for my brother about 6 years ago to keep hist fully restored 40's
John Deere tractor protected. It still looks like new (shelter that is, but
tractor looks like new too which means the shelter must be working). I
think I paid about $1300 for it. Of course an aviation size would be a
little more.
I know of at least one person that keeps their Piet in one of these.
Food for thought.
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Tom Anderson <tomanderson_nc@yahoo.com>wrote:
> tomanderson_nc@yahoo.com>
>
> ...just wondering...
>
> --------
> Location: Eastern N.C.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 8886#208886
>
>
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Storrs, CT
http://www.flyingwood.com
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