Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Thu 10/16/08


Total Messages Posted: 22



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     1. 04:43 AM - alternative shelter/lower cost  (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC])
     2. 04:46 AM - Re: Anyone leave their Piet uncovered on a tie-down? (Robert Gow)
     3. 06:09 AM - Re: Anyone leave their Piet uncovered on a tie-down? (Tom Anderson)
     4. 07:00 AM - Re: alternative shelter/lower cost (Jim Ash)
     5. 07:23 AM - Prop carving How-To CD coming soon (HelsperSew@aol.com)
     6. 07:34 AM - Re: Prop carving How-To CD coming soon (glennthomas@flyingwood.com)
     7. 07:41 AM - Re: Prop carving How-To CD coming soon (TOM STINEMETZE)
     8. 07:41 AM - Re: alternative shelter/lower cost (Scott Knowlton)
     9. 07:42 AM - Re: Prop carving How-To CD coming soon (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
    10. 07:42 AM - Re: Prop carving How-To CD coming soon (Scott Knowlton)
    11. 07:52 AM - Re: Prop carving How-To CD coming soon (ALAN LYSCARS)
    12. 08:26 AM - Re: Prop carving How-To CD coming soon (KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP)
    13. 08:29 AM - Re: Prop carving How-To CD coming soon (Skip Gadd)
    14. 09:16 AM - Re: Prop carving How-To CD coming soon (Gary Boothe)
    15. 10:04 AM - Re: Prop carving How-To CD coming soon (Gene & Tammy)
    16. 10:19 AM - Re: Prop carving How-To CD coming soon (walt)
    17. 10:47 AM - Re: alternative shelter/lower cost (walt)
    18. 10:53 AM - Re: Prop carving How-To CD coming soon (Ed G.)
    19. 12:21 PM - Re: Prop carving How-To CD coming soon (bob@cozyworld.net)
    20. 01:40 PM - Re: Prop carving How-To CD coming soon (outofthebox50@yahoo.com)
    21. 02:12 PM - Re: Prop carving How-To CD coming soon (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
    22. 03:17 PM - Re: Prop carving How-To CD coming soon (Don Emch)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:43:07 AM PST US
    Subject: alternative shelter/lower cost
    From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]" <Michael.D.Cuy@nasa.gov>
    http://www.shelterlogic.com/engineered-structures/ <http://www.shelterlogic.com/engineered-structures/> These are impressive for the cost alternatives to hangaring or the costly effects leaving your plane tied down outside. Don't you have something very similar to this in NJ Walt Evans and you've had good things to say about it ? A friend in KY has a Grumman and Corby stored in one of these structures on his farmstrip and he's also had good things to say about it INCLUDING the phenomenally MINIMAL damage to his planes (virtually none to the Starlet) after the remnants of Hurricane Ike roared thru. His Grumman had some horizontal stab damage but nothing like his buddies had in actual airport hangars that collapsed---crushing many planes in the state of KY. These shelters appear to be a decent low-cost option if it works for your situation. Mike C.


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    Time: 04:46:36 AM PST US
    From: "Robert Gow" <rgow@avionicsdesign.ca>
    Subject: Anyone leave their Piet uncovered on a tie-down?
    I don't know. I'll ask Mathew (Chris's son, Chris is not here very often anymore.) Bob -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP Sent: October 15, 2008 6:20 PM To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Anyone leave their Piet uncovered on a tie-down? What is your price in Canada? Cheaper? Ken --- On Wed, 10/15/08, Robert Gow <rgow@avionicsdesign.ca> wrote: From: Robert Gow <rgow@avionicsdesign.ca> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Anyone leave their Piet uncovered on a tie-down? To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2008, 4:19 PM It's a neat plane. The original factory is here in Midland Ontario ad there are a couple on the ramp.. They have a subsidiary in New Mexico to handle the US market. The neatest part of the design is the lack of aileron hinges. they just use the upper skin as a hinge. The alloy selected for the upper skin can tolerate the deflections without fatiguing. Bob -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP Sent: October 15, 2008 4:58 PM To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Anyone leave their Piet uncovered on a tie-down? Try this plane! http://www.zenithair.com/zodiac/ch650/index.html It is a light sport special kit build for around 18K us funds(none of that Canada paper in good old USA)! Harvey, I am still building my pietenpol but his is going to be the flying get me where I am going plane with a corvair hanging off the front! Ken H Fargo, ND --- On Wed, 10/15/08, H RULE <harvey.rule@rogers.com> wrote: From: H RULE <harvey.rule@rogers.com> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Anyone leave their Piet uncovered on a tie-down? To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2008, 3:04 PM I pay $250.00/mo. Cnd and that is why both my planes are up for sale now.When I get them sold I'll be looking for something I can leave out for a season then trailer it or just leave it out all year round. do not archive ----- Original Message ---- From: Gene & Tammy <zharvey@bellsouth.net> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 12:29:23 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Anyone leave their Piet uncovered on a tie-down? <zharvey@bellsouth.net> Good question Tom. I don't leave mine out doors as I have always had a hanger and hangers here in Tennessee are cheap. In Alaska, (where I'm from) most planes spend their lives out doors and the only time their under cover is while their being worked on. Most of the early bush planes were open cockpit, wood framed and covered in cotton. From what I've been lead to understand, they did quite well. After all, 3D=========================3 D=================== href='3D"http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List"'>netGUARD has detected a possible fraud attempt from "3d"http:" claiming to be http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List 3D=========================3 D=================== color=red>netGUARD has detected a possible fraud attempt from "3d"http:" claiming to be http://forums.matronics.com 3D=========================3 D=================== href='3D"http://www.matronics.com/contribution"'>netGUARD has detected a possible fraud attempt from "3d"http:" claiming to be http://www.matronics.com/contribution 3D=========================3 D=================== D======================== ========= claiming to be http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List D======================== ========= claiming to be http://forums.matronics.com D======================== ========= claiming to be http://www.matronics.com/contribution D======================== =========


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    Time: 06:09:52 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Anyone leave their Piet uncovered on a tie-down?
    From: "Tom Anderson" <tomanderson_nc@yahoo.com>
    Thanks, Glenn. That may very well be an option. -------- Location: Wilson, NC Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 9008#209008


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    Time: 07:00:39 AM PST US
    From: Jim Ash <ashcan@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: alternative shelter/lower cost
    When I was in Illinois, supply and demand had driven hangar rents to be quite expensive (relative to what I was paying in Florida). One of the seemingly popular solutions for the farm strips was a clamshell hangar. They're corrugated metal over a t-shaped structure. IIRC, there was a foot or two of open air along the bottom edge; the siding didn't go all the way to the ground (Although I guess it could). One part of the structure hinged up to get the plane in and out. Jim -----Original Message----- >From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]" <Michael.D.Cuy@nasa.gov> >Sent: Oct 16, 2008 7:42 AM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Pietenpol-List: alternative shelter/lower cost > >http://www.shelterlogic.com/engineered-structures/ ><http://www.shelterlogic.com/engineered-structures/> > > >These are impressive for the cost alternatives to hangaring or the >costly effects leaving your plane tied down outside. > >Don't you have something very similar to this in NJ Walt Evans and >you've had good things to say about it ? > >A friend in KY has a Grumman and Corby stored in one of these structures >on his farmstrip and he's also had >good things to say about it INCLUDING the phenomenally MINIMAL damage to >his planes (virtually none to the Starlet) >after the remnants of Hurricane Ike roared thru. His Grumman had some >horizontal stab damage but nothing like >his buddies had in actual airport hangars that collapsed---crushing many >planes in the state of KY. These shelters >appear to be a decent low-cost option if it works for your situation. > >Mike C. > > > >


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    Time: 07:23:00 AM PST US
    From: HelsperSew@aol.com
    Subject: Prop carving How-To CD coming soon
    Hello all, I have been contacted by several of the subscribers to this list about making available more information concerning the "Jerry Thornhill-All Power Tool" method of prop carving. I am in the process of composing a very detailed essay describing this entire procedure, including many photos. My plan is to at some point make this available to anyone who wants it, at some nominal fee (to be determined later). I am thinking of putting all of this complete information on a CD. Right now I am asking for feedback as far as who might possibly be interested in getting one of these. Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. **************New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000002)


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    Time: 07:34:53 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Prop carving How-To CD coming soon
    From: glennthomas@flyingwood.com
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    Time: 07:41:08 AM PST US
    From: "TOM STINEMETZE" <TOMS@mcpcity.com>
    Subject: Re: Prop carving How-To CD coming soon
    Dan: I suspect that I will be one of your customers. I am carving a mahogany prop right now by another method and suspect that it might turn out to be a very expensive wall clock. Tom Stinemetze >Right now I am asking for feedback as far as who might possibly be interested in getting one of these. < do not archive


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    Time: 07:41:44 AM PST US
    From: Scott Knowlton <flyingscott_k@hotmail.com>
    Subject: alternative shelter/lower cost
    Reading the many options and costs of hangars makes me want to interject my own opinion on the subject. Having been in the sport for thirty years I'v e come to notice that the guys who seem the most concerned on maintaining t he appearance and structure of their aircraft at an economical balance use door-less T-hangars of some variety or other. Truly the three elements we want to avoid coming in contact with our aircraft are precipitation=2C UV a nd heavy wind. The secondary items (mice=2C birds=2C thieves etc) don't se em to care whether there is a door in front of your aircraft or not. The b ig down-side to a hermetically sealed hangar with a door (along with higher cost and possible difficulty of operation) is that it is very difficult to adequately ventilate in the summertime which can expose your pride and joy to temperatures well above ambient for many hours at a time. An airplane in an open T-Hangar remains the driest as well as coolest. Not just the ch eapest solution but also the most available in the country and the easiest to build. I keep my Stinson 108 in a T-Hanger in Southern Ontario. It is tied down a nd chalked. I sleep well during snow and thunderstorms (even hail). I hav e a nose cover and pre-heater for winter ops and my annual hangar cost is $ 2100.00 Canadian. (one third of this cost is paid for in my reduced hull i nsurance). The time and expense to recover a fabric aircraft that has been exposed to the elements is equivalent to five years of hangar rent. I jus tify the cost because I feel my airplane will last indefinitely since it is n't exposed to the elements. Just another opinion. Keep building and flyi ng. Scott Knowlton Burlington Ontario Slow Piet Builder > Date: Thu=2C 16 Oct 2008 09:59:22 -0400> From: ashcan@earthlink.net> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: alternative shel thlink.net>> > When I was in Illinois=2C supply and demand had driven hanga r rents to be quite expensive (relative to what I was paying in Florida). O ne of the seemingly popular solutions for the farm strips was a clamshell h angar. They're corrugated metal over a t-shaped structure. IIRC=2C there wa s a foot or two of open air along the bottom edge=3B the siding didn't go a ll the way to the ground (Although I guess it could). One part of the struc ture hinged up to get the plane in and out.> > > Jim > > -----Original Mess age-----> >From: "Cuy=2C Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]" <Michael.D.Cuy@nasa.g ov>> >Sent: Oct 16=2C 2008 7:42 AM> >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com> >Sub ject: Pietenpol-List: alternative shelter/lower cost > >> >http://www.shelt erlogic.com/engineered-structures/> ><http://www.shelterlogic.com/engineere d-structures/> > > > > > >These are impressive for the cost alternatives to hangaring or the> >costly effects leaving your plane tied down outside. > > > >Don't you have something very similar to this in NJ Walt Evans and> >y ou've had good things to say about it ?> > > >A friend in KY has a Grumman and Corby stored in one of these structures> >on his farmstrip and he's als o had> >good things to say about it INCLUDING the phenomenally MINIMAL dama ge to> >his planes (virtually none to the Starlet)> >after the remnants of Hurricane Ike roared thru. His Grumman had some> >horizontal stab damage bu t nothing like> >his buddies had in actual airport hangars that collapsed-- -crushing many> >planes in the state of KY. These shelters> >appear to be a decent low-cost option if it works for your situation. > > > >Mike C. > > =============> > > _________________________________________________________________


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    Time: 07:42:46 AM PST US
    From: AMsafetyC@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Prop carving How-To CD coming soon
    Dan, Sign me up, I doubt I will ever venture into that aspect of building however, one never knows do one ? The seeing it and learning about it is certainly worth the price of admission plus it makes a nice addition to my DVD collection of builders and tipsters in action. Just a fan of the craft! John Recine In a message dated 10/16/2008 10:35:45 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, glennthomas@flyingwood.com writes: I'd like one. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry ____________________________________ From: HelsperSew@aol.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Prop carving How-To CD coming soon Hello all, I have been contacted by several of the subscribers to this list about making available more information concerning the "Jerry Thornhill-All Power Tool" method of prop carving. I am in the process of composing a = very detailed essay describing this entire procedure, including many photos. &nbs= p;My plan is to at some point make this available to anyone who wants it, at some= nominal fee (to be determined later). I am thinking of putting all of this complete information on a CD. Right now I am asking for feedback as far as w= ho might possibly be interested in getting one of these. Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. ____________________________________ New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Di= 100000075x1211031713x1200669822/aol?redir=http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid= =emlcntnew00000002">Try it out! _http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List_ (mip://0522f2c8/3D"http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List") (mip://0522f2c8/3D"http://forums.matronics.com") _http://www.matronics.com/contribution_ (mip://0522f2c8/3D"http://www.matronics.com/contribution") ============ **************New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000002)


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    Time: 07:42:55 AM PST US
    From: Scott Knowlton <flyingscott_k@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Prop carving How-To CD coming soon
    Me too please. Scott Knowlton From: HelsperSew@aol.comDate: Thu=2C 16 Oct 2008 10:22:14 -0400Subject: Pie tenpol-List: Prop carving How-To CD coming soonTo: pietenpol-list@matronics .com Hello all=2C I have been contacted by several of the subscribers to this list about maki ng available more information concerning the "Jerry Thornhill-All Power Too l" method of prop carving. I am in the process of composing a very detaile d essay describing this entire procedure=2C including many photos. My plan is to at some point make this available to anyone who wants it=2C at some nominal fee (to be determined later). I am thinking of putting all of this complete information on a CD. Right now I am asking for feedback as far as who might possibly be interested in getting one of these. Dan HelsperPoplar Grove=2C IL. New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Di100000075x 1211031713x1200669822/aol?redir=http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntn ew00000002">Try it out! _________________________________________________________________


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    Time: 07:52:09 AM PST US
    From: "ALAN LYSCARS" <alyscars@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: Prop carving How-To CD coming soon
    Dan, Please put me on your list. Al Lyscars Manchester, NH ----- Original Message ----- From: HelsperSew@aol.com To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 10:22 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Prop carving How-To CD coming soon Hello all, I have been contacted by several of the subscribers to this list about making available more information concerning the "Jerry Thornhill-All Power Tool" method of prop carving. I am in the process of composing a very detailed essay describing this entire procedure, including many photos. My plan is to at some point make this available to anyone who wants it, at some nominal fee (to be determined later). I am thinking of putting all of this complete information on a CD. Right now I am asking for feedback as far as who might possibly be interested in getting one of these. Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Di100000075x1211031713x1200669822/aol?redir=http://local.mapquest.com/? ncid=emlcntnew00000002">Try it out!


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    Time: 08:26:28 AM PST US
    From: "KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP" <kmheidecpo@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Prop carving How-To CD coming soon
    KM Heide Fargo, ND - Very interested! - Do not archive - --- On Thu, 10/16/08, HelsperSew@aol.com <HelsperSew@aol.com> wrote: From: HelsperSew@aol.com <HelsperSew@aol.com> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Prop carving How-To CD coming soon Hello all, - I have been contacted by several of the subscribers to this list about maki ng available more information concerning the "Jerry Thornhill-All Power Too l"-method of- prop carving. I am in the process of composing a very det ailed essay describing this entire procedure, including many photos. -My plan is to at some point make this available to anyone who wants it, at som e nominal fee (to be determined later). I am thinking of putting all of thi s complete information on a CD. Right now I am asking for feedback as far a s who might possibly be interested in getting one of these. - Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Di100000075x 1211031713x1200669822/aol?redir=http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntn ew00000002">Try it out! =0A=0A=0A


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    Time: 08:29:11 AM PST US
    From: "Skip Gadd" <skipgadd@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Prop carving How-To CD coming soon
    Dan, Add me to the list. Skip ----- Original Message ----- From: Sent: 10/16/2008 10:26:08 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Prop carving How-To CD coming soon Hello all, I have been contacted by several of the subscribers to this list about making available more information concerning the "Jerry Thornhill-All Power Tool" method of prop carving. I am in the process of composing a very detailed essay describing this entire procedure, including many photos. My plan is to at some point make this available to anyone who wants it, at some nominal fee (to be determined later). I am thinking of putting all of this complete information on a CD. Right now I am asking for feedback as far as who might possibly be interested in getting one of these. Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Di100000075x1211031713x1200669822/aol?redir=http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000002">Try it out!


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    Time: 09:16:34 AM PST US
    From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe@calply.com>
    Subject: Prop carving How-To CD coming soon
    Dan, Definitely count me 'IN.' Your work was very impressive. Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion Tail done, working on fuselage (endless metal parts!) (12 ribs down.) Do not archive _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of HelsperSew@aol.com Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 7:22 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Prop carving How-To CD coming soon Hello all, I have been contacted by several of the subscribers to this list about making available more information concerning the "Jerry Thornhill-All Power Tool" method of prop carving. I am in the process of composing a very detailed essay describing this entire procedure, including many photos. My plan is to at some point make this available to anyone who wants it, at some nominal fee (to be determined later). I am thinking of putting all of this complete information on a CD. Right now I am asking for feedback as far as who might possibly be interested in getting one of these. Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. _____ New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Di100000075x1211031713x1200669822/aol?redir=http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid emlcntnew00000002">Try it out!


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    Time: 10:04:33 AM PST US
    From: "Gene & Tammy" <zharvey@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Prop carving How-To CD coming soon
    Count me in. Gene in Tennessee ----- Original Message ----- From: HelsperSew@aol.com To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 9:22 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Prop carving How-To CD coming soon Do Not Archive


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    Time: 10:19:36 AM PST US
    From: "walt" <waltdak@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: Prop carving How-To CD coming soon
    I would walt evans NX140DL ----- Original Message ----- From: HelsperSew@aol.com To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 10:22 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Prop carving How-To CD coming soon Hello all, I have been contacted by several of the subscribers to this list about making available more information concerning the "Jerry Thornhill-All Power Tool" method of prop carving. I am in the process of composing a very detailed essay describing this entire procedure, including many photos. My plan is to at some point make this available to anyone who wants it, at some nominal fee (to be determined later). I am thinking of putting all of this complete information on a CD. Right now I am asking for feedback as far as who might possibly be interested in getting one of these. Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Di100000075x1211031713x1200669822/aol?redir=http://local.mapquest.com/? ncid=emlcntnew00000002">Try it out!


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    Time: 10:47:17 AM PST US
    From: "walt" <waltdak@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: alternative shelter/lower cost
    Yeah Mike, It used to be Cover-it, but guess it got taken over by another. look here http://www.sheltersofnewengland.com/ I've seen some home made shelters blow down, but never a Cover-It. Still standing since 2002 walt evans NX140DL ----- Original Message ----- From: Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC] To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 7:42 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: alternative shelter/lower cost http://www.shelterlogic.com/engineered-structures/ These are impressive for the cost alternatives to hangaring or the costly effects leaving your plane tied down outside. Don't you have something very similar to this in NJ Walt Evans and you've had good things to say about it ? A friend in KY has a Grumman and Corby stored in one of these structures on his farmstrip and he's also had good things to say about it INCLUDING the phenomenally MINIMAL damage to his planes (virtually none to the Starlet) after the remnants of Hurricane Ike roared thru. His Grumman had some horizontal stab damage but nothing like his buddies had in actual airport hangars that collapsed---crushing many planes in the state of KY. These shelters appear to be a decent low-cost option if it works for your situation. Mike C.


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    Time: 10:53:23 AM PST US
    From: "Ed G." <flyboy_120@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Prop carving How-To CD coming soon
    I would be interested...Ed Grentzer Do not archive >From: HelsperSew@aol.com >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Pietenpol-List: Prop carving How-To CD coming soon >Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 10:22:14 EDT > >Hello all, > >I have been contacted by several of the subscribers to this list about >making available more information concerning the "Jerry Thornhill-All Power > Tool" >method of prop carving. I am in the process of composing a very detailed >essay describing this entire procedure, including many photos. My plan is >to at >some point make this available to anyone who wants it, at some nominal fee >(to be determined later). I am thinking of putting all of this complete >information on a CD. Right now I am asking for feedback as far as who >might >possibly be interested in getting one of these. > >Dan Helsper >Poplar Grove, IL. > >**************New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your >destination. >Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out >(http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000002)


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    Time: 12:21:29 PM PST US
    From: bob@cozyworld.net
    Subject: Prop carving How-To CD coming soon
    Count me in! Bob Hassel Santa Fe, NM =C2- Hello all, =C2- I have been contacted by several of the subscribers to this list about maki ng available more information concerning the "Jerry Thornhill-All Power Too l"=C2-method of=C2- prop carving. I am in the process of composing a ve ry detailed essay describing this entire procedure, including many photos. =C2-My plan is to at some point make this available to anyone who wants i t, at some nominal fee (to be determined later). I am thinking of putting a ll of this complete information on a CD. Right now I am asking for feedback as far as who might possibly be interested in getting one of these. =C2- Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Di100000075x 1211031713x1200669822/aol?redir=http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntn ew00000002">Try it out!


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    Time: 01:40:39 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Prop carving How-To CD coming soon
    From: outofthebox50@yahoo.com
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    Time: 02:12:02 PM PST US
    From: AMsafetyC@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Prop carving How-To CD coming soon
    Well since I was an early responder this morning, I am going to check my mail just as soon as I get home and see if mine has arrived. I am certain it must be there by now! And I know Dan would not let me down, he hasn't yet, no reason to think he would now. John In a message dated 10/16/2008 4:42:15 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, outofthebox50@yahoo.com writes: Count me in too. Jeremy in Dallas Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -----Original Message----- From: bob@cozyworld.net Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Prop carving How-To CD coming soon Count me in! Bob Hassel Santa Fe, NM Hello all, I have been contacted by several of the subscribers to this list about making available more information concerning the "Jerry Thornhill-All Power Tool" method of prop carving. I am in the process of composing a very detailed essay describing this entire procedure, including many photos. 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    Time: 03:17:45 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Prop carving How-To CD coming soon
    From: "Don Emch" <EmchAir@aol.com>
    I'd sure like one! You should be very proud of your work!!! I'd really want to pay for you trouble. Don Emch NX899DE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 9084#209084




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