Today's Message Index:
----------------------
 
     1. 09:16 AM - Weekend (Michael Groah)
     2. 09:46 AM - Re: Weekend (amsafetyc@aol.com)
     3. 11:36 AM - Pietenpol Bomber (shad bell)
     4. 12:43 PM - Re: Pietenpol Bomber (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC])
     5. 12:47 PM - Re: Weekend (Michael Groah)
     6. 02:28 PM - aileron pulley supports (Richard Schreiber)
     7. 03:02 PM - Re: aileron pulley supports (Ed G.)
     8. 04:14 PM - Re: aileron pulley supports (Michael Groah)
     9. 04:50 PM - Looking for Corvair Flight Engine for Display in So. Cal (Tim Verthein)
    10. 08:38 PM - Re: Prop carving How-To CD coming soon (carson)
    11. 09:10 PM - Re: Prop carving How-To CD coming soon (Ryan Mueller)
 
 
 
Message 1
| 					INDEX |  Back to Main INDEX |  
| 					NEXT |  Skip to NEXT Message |  
| 	LIST |  Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |  
| 		SENDER |  Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |  
  | 
      
      
      
      
      Hello all, 
      
      My Saturday consisted of showing my Pietenpol project to lots of kids and families.
      I was asked to bring my project out to our Tulare County Kid's Fest.  I
      set up my fuselage and almost competed wing panel along with a sheet of the plans
      and picture of what it could look like when complete.  I was able to show
      kids and parents about the plane and about airplanes in general.  It was fun and
      hopefully some of them learned something and sparked an interest in aviation.
      
      
      Then Sunday I spent a little time flying a Cherokee 140 (2.6 hours) and even grabbed
      my dad and took him for a ride.  
      
      Well I just thought i'd throw that out since it IS Piet related.  
      
      Mike Groah 
      Tulare CA
      (Fuse and tail done other than main gear and a hundred other things, One wing panel
      almost done, center section almost done, and tons of other things to do.
       This Christmas will mark a year working on the project.  I will finish it one
      of these days.)
      
       __________________________________________________
      
Message 2
| 					INDEX |  Back to Main INDEX |  
| 				PREVIOUS |  Skip to PREVIOUS Message |  
| 					NEXT |  Skip to NEXT Message |  
| 	LIST |  Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |  
| 		SENDER |  Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |  
  | 
      
      
      
      TWlrZQ0KDQpXaGVyZSBpcyBUdWxhcmUgQ2E/IEhvdyBmYXIgaXMgaXQgZnJvbSBMQT8NCg0KSm9o
      bg0KU2VudCBmcm9tIG15IFZlcml6b24gV2lyZWxlc3MgQmxhY2tCZXJyeQ0KDQotLS0tLU9yaWdp
      bmFsIE1lc3NhZ2UtLS0tLQ0KRnJvbTogTWljaGFlbCBHcm9haCA8ZHNrb2dyb3ZlckB5YWhvby5j
      b20+DQoNCkRhdGU6IE1vbiwgMjAgT2N0IDIwMDggMDk6MTU6NDUgDQpUbzogPHBpZXRlbnBvbC1s
      aXN0QG1hdHJvbmljcy5jb20+DQpTdWJqZWN0OiBQaWV0ZW5wb2wtTGlzdDogV2Vla2VuZA0KDQoN
      Cg0KSGVsbG8gYWxsLCANCg0KTXkgU2F0dXJkYXkgY29uc2lzdGVkIG9mIHNob3dpbmcgbXkgUGll
      dGVucG9sIHByb2plY3QgdG8gbG90cyBvZiBraWRzIGFuZCBmYW1pbGllcy4gIEkgd2FzIGFza2Vk
      IHRvIGJyaW5nIG15IHByb2plY3Qgb3V0IHRvIG91ciBUdWxhcmUgQ291bnR5IEtpZCdzIEZlc3Qu
      ICBJIHNldCB1cCBteSBmdXNlbGFnZSBhbmQgYWxtb3N0IGNvbXBldGVkIHdpbmcgcGFuZWwgYWxv
      bmcgd2l0aCBhIHNoZWV0IG9mIHRoZSBwbGFucyBhbmQgcGljdHVyZSBvZiB3aGF0IGl0IGNvdWxk
      IGxvb2sgbGlrZSB3aGVuIGNvbXBsZXRlLiAgSSB3YXMgYWJsZSB0byBzaG93IGtpZHMgYW5kIHBh
      cmVudHMgYWJvdXQgdGhlIHBsYW5lIGFuZCBhYm91dCBhaXJwbGFuZXMgaW4gZ2VuZXJhbC4gIEl0
      IHdhcyBmdW4gYW5kIGhvcGVmdWxseSBzb21lIG9mIHRoZW0gbGVhcm5lZCBzb21ldGhpbmcgYW5k
      IHNwYXJrZWQgYW4gaW50ZXJlc3QgaW4gYXZpYXRpb24uICANCg0KVGhlbiBTdW5kYXkgSSBzcGVu
      dCBhIGxpdHRsZSB0aW1lIGZseWluZyBhIENoZXJva2VlIDE0MCAoMi42IGhvdXJzKSBhbmQgZXZl
      biBncmFiYmVkIG15IGRhZCBhbmQgdG9vayBoaW0gZm9yIGEgcmlkZS4gIA0KDQpXZWxsIEkganVz
      dCB0aG91Z2h0IGknZCB0aHJvdyB0aGF0IG91dCBzaW5jZSBpdCBJUyBQaWV0IHJlbGF0ZWQuICAN
      Cg0KTWlrZSBHcm9haCANClR1bGFyZSBDQQ0KKEZ1c2UgYW5kIHRhaWwgZG9uZSBvdGhlciB0aGFu
      IG1haW4gZ2VhciBhbmQgYSBodW5kcmVkIG90aGVyIHRoaW5ncywgT25lIHdpbmcgcGFuZWwgYWxt
      b3N0IGRvbmUsIGNlbnRlciBzZWN0aW9uIGFsbW9zdCBkb25lLCBhbmQgdG9ucyBvZiBvdGhlciB0
      aGluZ3MgdG8gZG8uICAgVGhpcyBDaHJpc3RtYXMgd2lsbCBtYXJrIGEgeWVhciB3b3JraW5nIG9u
      IHRoZSBwcm9qZWN0LiAgSSB3aWxsIGZpbmlzaCBpdCBvbmUgb2YgdGhlc2UgZGF5cy4pDQoNCiBf
      X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fXw0KDQo
      
Message 3
| 					INDEX |  Back to Main INDEX |  
| 				PREVIOUS |  Skip to PREVIOUS Message |  
| 					NEXT |  Skip to NEXT Message |  
| 	LIST |  Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |  
| 		SENDER |  Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |  
  | 
      
      
| Subject:  | Pietenpol Bomber | 
      
      Hello guys, we had a blast this past saturday with a little airport hanger 
      party/fly-in.- We were going to have a spot landing competition, and bomb
       drop, but just did the bombdrop.- It was windy and a little bit cold but
       we still had fun.- A friend of mine I work with came by in time for his 
      1st ride in the piet, little did he know he was getting drafted into the Pi
      etenpol Airforce.- He was my bombbardier.- Water balloons were the orde
      nance, and a blue barrel the target.- That is the 1st time I have tried t
      hat, we did one low torpedo type run, and a 900ft- high, B-29 style appro
      ach.- Of course the B-29's bombsight was waaaaay off.- Earl, with his b
      lue Stinson 108 actually hit the barrel, with his girlfriend as his bombadi
      er, and the Eckles boys in the cub got close with the "stuka" dive bomb apr
      oach.- Next year I will try to plan a little better and get a few more in
      vites out so we can have team bombdrop, Piets vs ????- (I bet RV's would 
      have
       a heck of a time throwing stuff out.)- 
      -
      -
      Safe building and water bombing,
      Shad=0A=0A__________________________________________________=0ADo You Yahoo
      p://mail.yahoo.com 
      
Message 4
| 					INDEX |  Back to Main INDEX |  
| 				PREVIOUS |  Skip to PREVIOUS Message |  
| 					NEXT |  Skip to NEXT Message |  
| 	LIST |  Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |  
| 		SENDER |  Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |  
  | 
      
      
| Subject:  | Pietenpol Bomber | 
      
      
      
      Sign me up for next year's bombing runs Shad.   I'll set up some drums
      at my home base to practice
      before I come down. 
      
      Mike C. 
      
      do not archive
      
      
Message 5
| 					INDEX |  Back to Main INDEX |  
| 				PREVIOUS |  Skip to PREVIOUS Message |  
| 					NEXT |  Skip to NEXT Message |  
| 	LIST |  Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |  
| 		SENDER |  Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |  
  | 
      
      
      
      I'm about a 2-1/2 to 3 hour drive from LA.  It's about 50 miles south of Fresno
      on the 99.    (KTLR is our local airport.)  
      
      We're the home to the World Ag Expo which is the worlds largest agriculture gathering.
      During Feb each year thousands of people fill up our little farming town
      and the surrounding area to attend the ag expo.  Other than that we're a small
      agriculture and dairy community.  
      
         
      
      amsafetyc@aol.com wrote:    Mike
      
      Where is Tulare Ca? How far is it from LA?
      
      JohnSent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
      
      
      ---------------------------------
      From:  Michael Groah <dskogrover@yahoo.com>
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Weekend
      
      
      Hello all, 
      
      My Saturday consisted of showing my Pietenpol project to lots of kids and families.
      I was asked to bring my project out to our Tulare County Kid's Fest.  I
      set up my fuselage and almost competed wing panel along with a sheet of the plans
      and picture of what it could look like when complete.  I was able to show
      kids and parents about the plane and about airplanes in general.  It was fun and
      hopefully some of them learned something and sparked an interest in aviation.
      
      
      Then Sunday I spent a little time flying a Cherokee 140 (2.6 hours) and even grabbed
      my dad and took him for a ride.  
      
      Well I just thought i'd throw that out since it IS Piet related.  
      
      Mike Groah 
      Tulare CA
      (Fuse and tail done other than main gear and a hundred other things, One wing panel
      almost done, center section almost done, and tons of other things to do.
       This Christmas will mark a year working on the
      ~,g(M4Gqz.'8^>'zzhIQhR' Eyn jj+ ^.+- Tn+bpbj!'60j@C,jwfffj|m &j',r5hRm &j',r5hR
      
       __________________________________________________
      
Message 6
| 					INDEX |  Back to Main INDEX |  
| 				PREVIOUS |  Skip to PREVIOUS Message |  
| 					NEXT |  Skip to NEXT Message |  
| 	LIST |  Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |  
| 		SENDER |  Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |  
  | 
      
      
| Subject:  | aileron pulley supports | 
      
      Some time ago I recall seeing a post that the two bolts that hold on the aileron
      pulley supports in the wing, will not fit as drawn on the plans. These are the
      two bolts that are underneath the pulley and between the pulley support arms.
      The poster said the bolt is too long to fit between the support arms and then
      through the drilled 3/16 inch hole. Looking at the plans and my cut out supports
      that sure looks to be the case. The poster  wound up just drilling the attachment
      holes to the inside of the two pulleys on the support. Is this what
      everyone else has done? What about just reversing the bolt and putting the nut
      under the pulley and the head on the inside of the spar? As long as there is
      adequate clearance between the nut and the aileron cable, would it make any difference?
      
      
      Richard Schreiber
      lmforge@earthlink.net
      
Message 7
| 					INDEX |  Back to Main INDEX |  
| 				PREVIOUS |  Skip to PREVIOUS Message |  
| 					NEXT |  Skip to NEXT Message |  
| 	LIST |  Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |  
| 		SENDER |  Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |  
  | 
      
      
| Subject:  | aileron pulley supports | 
      
      
      
      I did mine as per the plans and they worked out fine. I did have to chamfer 
      the holes in the bracket slightly so that the bolts would slide through on 
      the angle, but that did not seem to weaken the bracket. The trick is that 
      the holes need to be drilled in the spar and the bracket slid into place 
      with the bolts already in place in the bracket, a bit tricky but mine worked 
      out fine and it's very secure.  Ed G.
      
      
      >From: "Richard Schreiber" <lmforge@earthlink.net>
      >To: "pietenpol-list" <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
      >Subject: Pietenpol-List: aileron pulley supports
      >Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 16:26:28 -0500
      >
      >Some time ago I recall seeing a post that the two bolts that hold on the 
      >aileron pulley supports in the wing, will not fit as drawn on the plans. 
      >These are the two bolts that are underneath the pulley and between the 
      >pulley support arms. The poster said the bolt is too long to fit between 
      >the support arms and then through the drilled 3/16 inch hole. Looking at 
      >the plans and my cut out supports that sure looks to be the case. The 
      >poster  wound up just drilling the attachment holes to the inside of the 
      >two pulleys on the support. Is this what everyone else has done? What about 
      >just reversing the bolt and putting the nut under the pulley and the head 
      >on the inside of the spar? As long as there is adequate clearance between 
      >the nut and the aileron cable, would it make any difference?
      >
      >
      >Richard Schreiber
      >lmforge@earthlink.net
      
      
Message 8
| 					INDEX |  Back to Main INDEX |  
| 				PREVIOUS |  Skip to PREVIOUS Message |  
| 					NEXT |  Skip to NEXT Message |  
| 	LIST |  Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |  
| 		SENDER |  Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |  
  | 
      
      
| Subject:  | aileron pulley supports | 
      
      I agree ... I did the same and the plans design works fine.  
      
      
      
      I did mine as per the plans and they worked out fine. I did have to chamfer 
      the holes in the bracket slightly so that the bolts would slide through on 
      the angle, but that did not seem to weaken the bracket. The trick is that 
      the holes need to be drilled in the spar and the bracket slid into place 
      with the bolts already in place in the bracket, a bit tricky but mine worked 
      out fine and it's very secure.  Ed G.
      
      
      >From: "Richard Schreiber" 
      >To: "pietenpol-list" 
      
      >Subject: Pietenpol-List: aileron pulley supports
      >Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 16:26:28 -0500
      >
      >Some time ago I recall seeing a post that the two bolts that hold on the 
      >aileron pulley supports in the wing, will not fit as drawn on the plans. 
      >These are the two bolts that are underneath the pulley and between the 
      >pulley support arms. The poster said the bolt is too long to fit between 
      >the support arms and then through the drilled 3/16 inch hole. Looking at 
      >the plans and my cut out supports that sure looks to be the case. The 
      >poster  wound up just drilling the attachment holes to the inside of the 
      >two pulleys on the support. Is this what everyone else has done? What about 
      >just reversing the bolt and putting the nut under the pulley and the head 
      >on the inside of the spar? As long as there is adequate clearance between 
      >the nut and the aileron cable, would it make any difference?
      >
      >
      >Richard Schreiber
      >lmforge@earthlink.net
      
      
       __________________________________________________
      
Message 9
| 					INDEX |  Back to Main INDEX |  
| 				PREVIOUS |  Skip to PREVIOUS Message |  
| 					NEXT |  Skip to NEXT Message |  
| 	LIST |  Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |  
| 		SENDER |  Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |  
  | 
      
      
| Subject:  | Looking for Corvair Flight Engine for Display in So. Cal | 
      
      
      Hey gang-
      
      Kind of weird post here, but oddly enough besides being Piet follower, I'm also
      a Zenith guy AND a Corvair driver (auto). One thing these three machines have
      in common is the use of the Corvair engine.  There's a big Corvair event coming
      up end of the month in So Cal, and they're hoping to find someone with a Corvair
      flight engine for a display, or even one mounted to a fuse, etc.  the following
      is from a friend in the Corvair car group, that he posted to the Zenith
      group, that I'm passing along here, too. they don't care if you're a Zenith
      guy, or whatever, if you have a Corvair flight engine you would display.  Here's
      his post:
      
      " I have made several requests to several places including Flycorvair.com with
      no responses so I thought I'd make the request here. 
            
       "I am a member of Vintage Corsa, the Orange County, California chapter of
       CORSA, Corvair Society of America (cars & trucks). Our chapter is hosting
       the Great Western Fan Belt Toss this year. It is one of the largest Corvair
        (car & truck) events on the west coast each year. The 'Toss will be held at
        the Orange County Fair Grounds on October 31st, November 1st and 2nd. It has
      been moved from Palm Springs to Orange County this year to try to give the Corvair
      more exposure to the general public. The 'Toss will share the
      fairgrounds that weekend with a national woodworking convention and the
       Orange County Market Place. The OC Market place boasts that they are the
       largest swap meet in Southern California. Thousands of people are expected
       to attend the fairgrounds that weekend. See our website for more information
       about the 'Toss.  Vintagecorsa.com
             The reason that I have posted here is that we were wondering if someone
      wanted to represent the flight segment of the Corvair movement. Is there someone
      with a flight Corvair engine that might want to bring it to the show? (Could
      I dream of a fuselage with mounted engine?) If we can get
       someone, I'll see to it the display space is free.   If you can think of a local
      So Cal guy that might be interested in displaying, please forward this email.
      It sure would be cool if we had a flight engine at the show! If someone wanted
      to travel to the show, I have a spare bedroom.
        Anyone should contact me directly. 
      
            Thanks,
           Dave Thompson
              Westminster, CA
             Dave.thompson@verizon.net
             714-334-3833"
      
      It didn't look like that copies and pasted as nice as I'd liked, hopefully it worked
      OK.  I've found the Corvair car guys to be as nice a group as can be, and
      I'm sure it would be a blast for someone in the area. 
      
      Tim in Bovey
      
      __________________________________________________
      
      
Message 10
| 					INDEX |  Back to Main INDEX |  
| 				PREVIOUS |  Skip to PREVIOUS Message |  
| 					NEXT |  Skip to NEXT Message |  
| 	LIST |  Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |  
| 		SENDER |  Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |  
  | 
      
      
| Subject:  | Re: Prop carving How-To CD coming soon | 
      
      
      I will buy a copy
      Carson
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 9607#209607
      
      
Message 11
| 					INDEX |  Back to Main INDEX |  
| 				PREVIOUS |  Skip to PREVIOUS Message |  
| 					NEXT |  Skip to NEXT Message |  
| 	LIST |  Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |  
| 		SENDER |  Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |  
  | 
      
      
| Subject:  | Re: Prop carving How-To CD coming soon | 
      
      I'll take one too. I don't plan on carving a prop for this Piet, but
      probably the next. Either way it will be good info to see. And I will pick
      up my copy in person, which gives me an excuse to see your Piet!
      
      Ryan
      
      do not archive
      
 
Other Matronics Email List Services
 
 
These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.
 
 
-- Please support this service by making your Contribution today! --
  
 |