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     4. 01:38 PM - Re: Re: Lift struts-Wag Aero (bcharvet@bellsouth.net)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Pietenpol Bomber | 
      
      
      My dad told me that things were less dangerous back then.  Cigarettes didn'
      t cause cancer=2C there was no use for airbags=2C drunk driving didn't kill
       people etc.
      
      Do no archive
      
      
      Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol BomberDate: Tue=2C 21 Oct 2008 12:58
      :53 -0400From: Jack.Phillips@cardinalhealth.comTo: pietenpol-list@matronics
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      Ahhh=2C reminds me of the days of my youth=85
      
      Back when I was 18=2C my Dad bought a J-3.  My brother and I were going to 
      enter it in a flour-sack bombing contest at an airshow in Memphis=2C so we 
      asked a local farmer who had an airstrip if we could practice bombing at hi
      s place.  He said he=92d rather we=92d use lime than flour so it would do h
      is fields some good and let us go.  We started practicing with various alti
      tudes and weren=92t being very successful.  I decided to try the dive-bomb 
      approach.  I took the Cub up to 1=2C000=92=2C chopped the throttle to idle 
      and stood it on its nose=2C watching the airspeed to keep it out of the red
      line (125 mph on a Cub).  I tossed the bomb out at about 100=92 and pulled 
      back on the stick.  You know=2C it takes just about 100=92 to pull a Cub ou
      t of a terminal velocity dive.  I pointed the nose to the sky and gave it f
      ull throttle and it kept going down!  It finally began to climb as the tail
      wheel kissed the grass.  I decided right then and there that dive bombing i
      s not my preferred technique.  As he was watching this from the saftey of t
      he ground=2C my brother kept wondering =93how am I going to get home if he 
      crashes the airplane?=94
      
      The farmer watched us practice day after day and finally said =93Boys=2C I
      =92ve got 40 acres in watermelons.  There are always a few that the crows h
      ave pecked holes in that I can=92t sell.  I sure would enjoy watching you d
      rop them.=94
      
      We took the stick out of the back=2C and my brother flew the Cub from the f
      ront seat while I sat in the back with a watermelon under each arm and 3 of
       them on the floorbards.  I made an adjustable bombsight that proved to be 
      pretty accurate=2C as long as the altitude was constant and the wind wasn
      =92t blowing too hard.  I would lean out the door and shout instructions to
       him=2C as he maintained a constant altitude.  I=92d shout =93Left a bit.  
      Steady.  Steady.  A little bit to the right ' Bomb=92s Away!  We got wher
      e we could consistently hit a target the size of a car from 500=92.  Let me
       tell you=2C when you drop a watermelon 500=92 it digs a crater about 6=92 
      in daimeter and a foot deep and just fills it with mud.  It throws a shower
       of mud and dirt about 30=92 in the air.  Spectacular!
      
      Jack Phillips
      NX899JP
      Raleigh=2C NC
      
      
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-lis
      t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of shad bellSent: Monday=2C October 20=2C
       2008 2:36 PMTo: Pietenpol DiscussionSubject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Bom
      ber
      
      
      Hello guys=2C we had a blast this past saturday with a little airport hange
      r party/fly-in.  We were going to have a spot landing competition=2C and bo
      mb drop=2C but just did the bombdrop.  It was windy and a little bit cold b
      ut we still had fun.  A friend of mine I work with came by in time for his 
      1st ride in the piet=2C little did he know he was getting drafted into the 
      Pietenpol Airforce.  He was my bombbardier.  Water balloons were the ordena
      nce=2C and a blue barrel the target.  That is the 1st time I have tried tha
      t=2C we did one low torpedo type run=2C and a 900ft  high=2C B-29 style app
      roach.  Of course the B-29's bombsight was waaaaay off.  Earl=2C with his b
      lue Stinson 108 actually hit the barrel=2C with his girlfriend as his bomba
      dier=2C and the Eckles boys in the cub got close with the "stuka" dive bomb
       aproach.  Next year I will try to plan a little better and get a few more 
      invites out so we can have team bombdrop=2C Piets vs ????  (I bet RV's woul
      d have a heck of a time throwing stuff out.)  
      
      
      Safe building and water bombing=2C
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      I wrestled with the lift strut issue for a while. Checked out some old struts off
      some Cubs and T-crafts but ultimately decided to go with new steel streamline
      tubing. Paid about $900 for four 8-foot lenghts but would rather be sure of
      the integrity of these pretty crucial pieces of hardware. The roughly 2.5 x 1
      inch by .049 stuff is stiff enough that I may not need jury struts. 
      
      A bigger issue for me was the fitting at the top of the strut that attached into
      the fitting on the wing. The fabricated fitting according to plans allowed my
      strut to move up and down about a half inch, partly because it can slide up
      and down inside the strut on the bolt that holds it to the strut. I bought some
      1 x 1 mild steel bar stock on line and machined (if you can call using a grinder
      to shape the part..) fittings that slide into the streamline tube. No slop
      and I'll feel a lot better about that critical attach point. 
      
      Matt Paxton
      
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| Subject:  | Re: RE: Lift struts | 
      
      For those who haven't bought...I found this in the archives but I wanted to
      double check and make sure, so I called Bill Rewey this morning to verify.
      He said that Wag-Aero's 1020 mild steel streamline tubing would work. 1.78"
      x 1.06" x .049", listed at $5.99 per ft in their catalog. If you get five 8
      ft lengths you have one length for each strut, and the fifth length of
      tubing for the cabanes.
      
      I tried calling Wag-Aero to check price, but they are only open M-F. Might
      be worth looking into though.
      
      Ryan
      
      On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 8:41 AM, <woodflier@aol.com> wrote:
      
      > I wrestled with the lift strut issue for a while. Checked out some old
      > struts off some Cubs and T-crafts but ultimately decided to go with new
      > steel streamline tubing. Paid about $900 for four 8-foot lenghts but would
      > rather be sure of the integrity of these pretty crucial pieces of hardware.
      > The roughly 2.5 x 1 inch by .049 stuff is stiff enough that I may not need
      > jury struts.
      >
      > A bigger issue for me was the fitting at the top of the strut that attached
      > into the fitting on the wing. The fabricated fitting according to plans
      > allowed my strut to move up and down about a half inch, partly because it
      > can slide up and down inside the strut on the bolt that holds it to the
      > strut. I bought some 1 x 1 mild steel bar stock on line and machined (if you
      > can call using a grinder to shape the part..) fittings that slide into the
      > streamline tube. No slop and I'll feel a lot better about that critical
      > attach point.
      >
      >
      
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