---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 10/25/08: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:26 AM - Re: Pietenpol Bomber (Jonathan Ragle) 2. 06:42 AM - Re: Lift struts (woodflier@aol.com) 3. 09:22 AM - Re: Re: Lift struts (Ryan Mueller) 4. 01:38 PM - Re: Re: Lift struts-Wag Aero (bcharvet@bellsouth.net) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:26:49 AM PST US From: Jonathan Ragle Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Bomber My dad told me that things were less dangerous back then. Cigarettes didn' t cause cancer=2C there was no use for airbags=2C drunk driving didn't kill people etc. Do no archive Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol BomberDate: Tue=2C 21 Oct 2008 12:58 :53 -0400From: Jack.Phillips@cardinalhealth.comTo: pietenpol-list@matronics .com Ahhh=2C reminds me of the days of my youth=85 Back when I was 18=2C my Dad bought a J-3. My brother and I were going to enter it in a flour-sack bombing contest at an airshow in Memphis=2C so we asked a local farmer who had an airstrip if we could practice bombing at hi s place. He said he=92d rather we=92d use lime than flour so it would do h is fields some good and let us go. We started practicing with various alti tudes and weren=92t being very successful. I decided to try the dive-bomb approach. I took the Cub up to 1=2C000=92=2C chopped the throttle to idle and stood it on its nose=2C watching the airspeed to keep it out of the red line (125 mph on a Cub). I tossed the bomb out at about 100=92 and pulled back on the stick. You know=2C it takes just about 100=92 to pull a Cub ou t of a terminal velocity dive. I pointed the nose to the sky and gave it f ull throttle and it kept going down! It finally began to climb as the tail wheel kissed the grass. I decided right then and there that dive bombing i s not my preferred technique. As he was watching this from the saftey of t he ground=2C my brother kept wondering =93how am I going to get home if he crashes the airplane?=94 The farmer watched us practice day after day and finally said =93Boys=2C I =92ve got 40 acres in watermelons. There are always a few that the crows h ave pecked holes in that I can=92t sell. I sure would enjoy watching you d rop them.=94 We took the stick out of the back=2C and my brother flew the Cub from the f ront seat while I sat in the back with a watermelon under each arm and 3 of them on the floorbards. I made an adjustable bombsight that proved to be pretty accurate=2C as long as the altitude was constant and the wind wasn =92t blowing too hard. I would lean out the door and shout instructions to him=2C as he maintained a constant altitude. I=92d shout =93Left a bit. Steady. Steady. A little bit to the right ' Bomb=92s Away! We got wher e we could consistently hit a target the size of a car from 500=92. Let me tell you=2C when you drop a watermelon 500=92 it digs a crater about 6=92 in daimeter and a foot deep and just fills it with mud. It throws a shower of mud and dirt about 30=92 in the air. Spectacular! Jack Phillips NX899JP Raleigh=2C NC From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-lis t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of shad bellSent: Monday=2C October 20=2C 2008 2:36 PMTo: Pietenpol DiscussionSubject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Bom ber Hello guys=2C we had a blast this past saturday with a little airport hange r party/fly-in. We were going to have a spot landing competition=2C and bo mb drop=2C but just did the bombdrop. It was windy and a little bit cold b ut we still had fun. A friend of mine I work with came by in time for his 1st ride in the piet=2C little did he know he was getting drafted into the Pietenpol Airforce. He was my bombbardier. Water balloons were the ordena nce=2C and a blue barrel the target. That is the 1st time I have tried tha t=2C we did one low torpedo type run=2C and a 900ft high=2C B-29 style app roach. Of course the B-29's bombsight was waaaaay off. Earl=2C with his b lue Stinson 108 actually hit the barrel=2C with his girlfriend as his bomba dier=2C and the Eckles boys in the cub got close with the "stuka" dive bomb aproach. Next year I will try to plan a little better and get a few more invites out so we can have team bombdrop=2C Piets vs ???? (I bet RV's woul d have a heck of a time throwing stuff out.) Safe building and water bombing=2C _________________________________________________ This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privilege d=2C proprietary or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error=2C pleas e notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is p rohibited. Dansk - Deutsch - Espanol - Francais - Italiano - Japanese - Nederlands - N orsk - Portuguese _________________________________________________________________ When your life is on the go=97take your life with you. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:42:44 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: RE: Lift struts From: woodflier@aol.com I wrestled with the lift strut issue for a while. Checked out some old struts off some Cubs and T-crafts but ultimately decided to go with new steel streamline tubing. Paid about $900 for four 8-foot lenghts but would rather be sure of the integrity of these pretty crucial pieces of hardware. The roughly 2.5 x 1 inch by .049 stuff is stiff enough that I may not need jury struts. A bigger issue for me was the fitting at the top of the strut that attached into the fitting on the wing. The fabricated fitting according to plans allowed my strut to move up and down about a half inch, partly because it can slide up and down inside the strut on the bolt that holds it to the strut. I bought some 1 x 1 mild steel bar stock on line and machined (if you can call using a grinder to shape the part..) fittings that slide into the streamline tube. No slop and I'll feel a lot better about that critical attach point. Matt Paxton ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:22:40 AM PST US From: "Ryan Mueller" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: RE: Lift struts For those who haven't bought...I found this in the archives but I wanted to double check and make sure, so I called Bill Rewey this morning to verify. He said that Wag-Aero's 1020 mild steel streamline tubing would work. 1.78" x 1.06" x .049", listed at $5.99 per ft in their catalog. If you get five 8 ft lengths you have one length for each strut, and the fifth length of tubing for the cabanes. I tried calling Wag-Aero to check price, but they are only open M-F. Might be worth looking into though. Ryan On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 8:41 AM, wrote: > I wrestled with the lift strut issue for a while. Checked out some old > struts off some Cubs and T-crafts but ultimately decided to go with new > steel streamline tubing. Paid about $900 for four 8-foot lenghts but would > rather be sure of the integrity of these pretty crucial pieces of hardware. > The roughly 2.5 x 1 inch by .049 stuff is stiff enough that I may not need > jury struts. > > A bigger issue for me was the fitting at the top of the strut that attached > into the fitting on the wing. The fabricated fitting according to plans > allowed my strut to move up and down about a half inch, partly because it > can slide up and down inside the strut on the bolt that holds it to the > strut. I bought some 1 x 1 mild steel bar stock on line and machined (if you > can call using a grinder to shape the part..) fittings that slide into the > streamline tube. No slop and I'll feel a lot better about that critical > attach point. > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 01:38:53 PM PST US From: bcharvet@bellsouth.net Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: RE: Lift struts-Wag Aero ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.