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1. 02:54 AM - Fuse Question (carson)
2. 04:24 AM - Re: see web page below last try failed to go through (H RULE)
3. 04:33 AM - Re: Fuse Question (Ed G.)
4. 04:56 AM - Re: Fuse Question (Ed G.)
5. 05:13 AM - Windshild improvement (Gene & Tammy)
6. 05:43 AM - Re: Fuse Question (Ben Charvet)
7. 05:52 AM - Re: Fuse Question (Gary Boothe)
8. 06:19 AM - Re: Windshild improvement (Tom Anderson)
9. 06:24 AM - Re: Windshild improvement (Rick Holland)
10. 09:59 AM - Re: Normalizing thin tube tig welds (Brady)
11. 02:28 PM - Model A test run report (HelsperSew@aol.com)
12. 02:46 PM - Re: Model A test run report (Gene Rambo)
13. 03:02 PM - windshild (Gene & Tammy)
14. 03:04 PM - windshild (Gene & Tammy)
15. 03:38 PM - Re: windshild (Jeff Boatright)
16. 04:58 PM - Re: windshild (Gene & Tammy)
17. 05:01 PM - Re: Model A test run report (Miguel Azevedo)
18. 05:53 PM - Re: windshild (Dick N.)
19. 06:06 PM - Re: windshild (Skip Gadd)
20. 06:55 PM - Re: windshild (Jeff Boatright)
21. 10:26 PM - Re: Model A test run report (Clif Dawson)
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Hi All
I have finally started building again I have the fuse layed out on the bench.
My question,at the front the bottom longeron seems to have a lot of stress from
the firewall to the first brace the firewall brace measurement from the top longerron
to the bottom is 21 7/8 and at the first brace it is 22 3/4 which is
7/8 over 12 inches.
My worry is will it pop when I pull it out of the jig, has anyone had this problem
or done it differently OR am I worrying for no reason.
I hope I have explained this clearly.
Thanks
Carson
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=211725#211725
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Subject: | Re: see web page below last try failed to go through |
Apparently I have just found out from another pilot friend of mine that it is a
well put together hoax;sorry to bother you guys with this junk.
----- Original Message ----
From: Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 1, 2008 4:08:48 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: see web page below last try failed to go through
http://www.avweb.com/blogs/insider/AVwebInsiderBlog_ViralVideo_KillaThrill_LostWingLanding_199096-1.html
It also has nothing to do with actual flying...well, real airplane flying at least.
:P
On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 2:49 PM, H RULE <harvey.rule@rogers.com> wrote:
http://www.kontraband.com/videos/14339/The-Best-Air-Race-Pilot-EVER/
I know this has nothing to do with Piets but this is some flying you just have
to see.
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Hi Carson The longeron is on a downward slope at that point so all of the
bend is not right at the first upright. It continues downward to 23 3/4 and
then starts back up in a tight but gentle curve. To answer your question I
had no problem with my spruce longerons making that bend and I've never
heard of it being a problem except on the early F/W 1929 model where that
curve is tighter. I blocked it up tight in the jig at the firewall and
pulled it up into the jig blocks dry. I guess you could soak it or steam it
but I don't belive it's needed as long as your wood is within specs. I glued
all of the joints and installed the blocking and gussets on the one side and
the 1/8" plywood on the other and then let each cure for a couple days
before removing each side from the jig. I belive I have seen pictures where
builders have just glued in the uprights and diagonals and removed the sides
from the jig before adding the gussets but I'm not nearly that optomistic.
Good luck, I believe the fuselage was one of the most rewarding parts of the
project. Ed G. Almost ready to start covering.
>From: "carson" <carsonvella@yahoo.com.au>
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fuse Question
>Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 02:53:45 -0800
>
>
>Hi All
>I have finally started building again I have the fuse layed out on the
>bench.
>My question,at the front the bottom longeron seems to have a lot of stress
>from the firewall to the first brace the firewall brace measurement from
>the top longerron to the bottom is 21 7/8 and at the first brace it is 22
>3/4 which is 7/8 over 12 inches.
>My worry is will it pop when I pull it out of the jig, has anyone had this
>problem or done it differently OR am I worrying for no reason.
>I hope I have explained this clearly.
>Thanks
>Carson
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=211725#211725
>
>
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Sorry to be jumping in here again but I just remembered something I did
which worked great. I left the extra length of my longeron 1x1s extend past
the firewall 4 or five inches. Useing wire and a hardware store turnbuckle
I cranked in some pressure to pull the lower longeron up into place. I left
this in place until after I removed the fuse side from the jig and installed
the inside gusset on one side and the outside ply on the other. after that
cured I trimmed the longerons to length. Might have been overkill but it
eliminates the chances of that joint popping loose when removed from the
jig. Ed
>From: "Ed G." <flyboy_120@hotmail.com>
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Fuse Question
>Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 07:31:00 -0500
>
>
>
>Hi Carson The longeron is on a downward slope at that point so all of the
>bend is not right at the first upright. It continues downward to 23 3/4 and
>then starts back up in a tight but gentle curve. To answer your question I
>had no problem with my spruce longerons making that bend and I've never
>heard of it being a problem except on the early F/W 1929 model where that
>curve is tighter. I blocked it up tight in the jig at the firewall and
>pulled it up into the jig blocks dry. I guess you could soak it or steam it
>but I don't belive it's needed as long as your wood is within specs. I
>glued all of the joints and installed the blocking and gussets on the one
>side and the 1/8" plywood on the other and then let each cure for a couple
>days before removing each side from the jig. I belive I have seen pictures
>where builders have just glued in the uprights and diagonals and removed
>the sides from the jig before adding the gussets but I'm not nearly that
>optomistic. Good luck, I believe the fuselage was one of the most rewarding
>parts of the project. Ed G. Almost ready to start covering.
>
>
>>From: "carson" <carsonvella@yahoo.com.au>
>>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fuse Question
>>Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 02:53:45 -0800
>>
>>
>>Hi All
>>I have finally started building again I have the fuse layed out on the
>>bench.
>>My question,at the front the bottom longeron seems to have a lot of stress
>>from the firewall to the first brace the firewall brace measurement from
>>the top longerron to the bottom is 21 7/8 and at the first brace it is 22
>>3/4 which is 7/8 over 12 inches.
>>My worry is will it pop when I pull it out of the jig, has anyone had this
>>problem or done it differently OR am I worrying for no reason.
>>I hope I have explained this clearly.
>>Thanks
>>Carson
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Read this topic online here:
>>
>>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=211725#211725
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Subject: | Windshild improvement |
For what it's worth.
The Fall weather here in Western Tennessee could not be better. 70's
during the day and low 30's at night. Since my favorite time to fly is
at sunrise, it does get cool in the cockpit. My windshild was of a
normal size for a Piet and it was very windy in the cockpit. I needed
to wear goggles while flying as it was windy enough that I feared my
glasses would be ripped off if I turned my head to the side. Keep in
mind, I'm 6' tall and shorter pilots may not have a wind issue. To
make a long story short, I redesigned my windshild plus made it 3"
taller. What a difference! It's like riding my Gold Wing. Almost no
wind in the cockpit at all. I couldn't believe the difference. If any
of you put your planes away for the winter, you might try changing your
windshild before you do. You just might get a whole lot more flying
done this year. Cool weather flying is the best there is. The Ol' Piet
flys like a super cub!
Gene
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Subject: | Re: Fuse Question |
As best I remember, I extended both longerons forward 6-8 inches past
the firewall. Then I glued/nailed a piece of scrap plywood across the
two as a temporary gusset. Be sure you remember you have to make mirror
image fuse sides, ie you can't put the forward gussets on both sides
while in the jig.
All this happened on my project afew years ago, and I'm going from my
poor memory, but you could wait and cut off the excess after the
fuselage is together and the plywood sides are on. I don't remember
what I did, but I didn't have any problems with the lower longeron, and
mine was all put together dry with no steaming. As Ed says, the curve is
not all that steep and it was no problem getting the lower longeron into
the jig.
Ben Charvet
Tails surfaces covered, awaiting one more final assembly before covering
wings and fuse.
rson wrote:
>
> Hi All
> I have finally started building again I have the fuse layed out on the bench.
> My question,at the front the bottom longeron seems to have a lot of stress from
the firewall to the first brace the firewall brace measurement from the top
longerron to the bottom is 21 7/8 and at the first brace it is 22 3/4 which is
7/8 over 12 inches.
> My worry is will it pop when I pull it out of the jig, has anyone had this problem
or done it differently OR am I worrying for no reason.
> I hope I have explained this clearly.
> Thanks
> Carson
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=211725#211725
>
>
>
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Carson,
I saw no tendencies for the joints to fail, but I installed diagonals and
gussets before removing the 1st side from the jig. Check the archives as
Dick Navatril had good ideas for making the rear cockpit a little larger,
with more slope to the pilot's seat back.
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, working on fuselage (endless metal parts!)
(12 ribs down.)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of carson
Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 2:54 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fuse Question
Hi All
I have finally started building again I have the fuse layed out on the
bench.
My question,at the front the bottom longeron seems to have a lot of stress
from the firewall to the first brace the firewall brace measurement from the
top longerron to the bottom is 21 7/8 and at the first brace it is 22 3/4
which is 7/8 over 12 inches.
My worry is will it pop when I pull it out of the jig, has anyone had this
problem or done it differently OR am I worrying for no reason.
I hope I have explained this clearly.
Thanks
Carson
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=211725#211725
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Subject: | Re: Windshild improvement |
Gene,
Do you have any pictures and specs. for the re-design?
--------
Location: Wilson, NC
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Subject: | Re: Windshild improvement |
So how many inches above the top of your head did the top of your new
windshield end up?
Rick
On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 6:13 AM, Gene & Tammy <zharvey@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> For what it's worth.
> The Fall weather here in Western Tennessee could not be better. 70's
> during the day and low 30's at night. Since my favorite time to fly is at
> sunrise, it does get cool in the cockpit. My windshild was of a normal size
> for a Piet and it was very windy in the cockpit. I needed to wear goggles
> while flying as it was windy enough that I feared my glasses would be ripped
> off if I turned my head to the side. Keep in mind, I'm 6' tall and shorter
> pilots may not have a wind issue. To make a long story short, I redesigned
> my windshild plus made it 3" taller. What a difference! It's like riding
> my Gold Wing. Almost no wind in the cockpit at all. I couldn't believe the
> difference. If any of you put your planes away for the winter, you might
> try changing your windshild before you do. You just might get a whole lot
> more flying done this year. Cool weather flying is the best there is. The
> Ol' Piet flys like a super cub!
> Gene
>
> *
>
>
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Castle Rock, Colorado
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Subject: | Re: Normalizing thin tube tig welds |
Read this article.
Normalizing is not necessary.
http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/sportair/
If normalizing is not done correctly it can be hazardous.
--------
Brady McCormick
Poulsbo, WA
www.magnificentmachine.com
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Subject: | Model A test run report |
Hello good people!
Today was a glorious and warm day here in northern Illinois. 8-1/2 years in
the trenches so far. I rolled out my Piet from the hangar and tied'er down at
the tail. Added about two gallons of gas, and pulled'er through 5 blades
after a one-shot prime. Walked back 'round and twisted the mags around to
"both". Mosied back around to the front and took a'hold of the prop and after
three
blades she came to life! What a great feeling!! There is noth'in quite like
the sound of an "A" and the breeze through your hair (if you have any left).
Ran'er up for quite a while and just took it all in!
This is the second day of runn'in her so a bit more relaxed and enjoyable.
I'm on "cruise control" now that I know she'll run. After 8 1/2 years its a
good feel'in!!
Made a windshield this weekend, so cross that off the list. It's gett'in
closer to Tuesday!! I will work on cover'in her this winter. Got a reading of
1850 RPM static at full throttle with my home-made prop. I think that is pretty
close to where it should be. Good enough to test fly'er with. I attached a
"fish scale" type spring scale (300 lb capacity) to the tail and got a reading
of 260 lbs @ full throttle. Does anybody know if this is good?? I have no
idea, but she was pull'in like a banshee!!
Hopefully this report will serve as an encouragement to spur on all the rest
that are behind me. Keep-on plodding along!! Each small step is one more
toward your end goal............. Can't wait to fly her!!
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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Subject: | Re: Model A test run report |
mag on "both"???
Gene
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: HelsperSew@aol.com<mailto:HelsperSew@aol.com>
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com<mailto:pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 5:26 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Model A test run report
Hello good people!
Today was a glorious and warm day here in northern Illinois. 8-1/2
years in the trenches so far. I rolled out my Piet from the hangar and
tied'er down at the tail. Added about two gallons of gas, and pulled'er
through 5 blades after a one-shot prime. Walked back 'round and twisted
the mags around to "both". Mosied back around to the front and took
a'hold of the prop and after three blades she came to life! What a great
feeling!! There is noth'in quite like the sound of an "A" and the
breeze through your hair (if you have any left). Ran'er up for quite a
while and just took it all in!
This is the second day of runn'in her so a bit more relaxed and
enjoyable. I'm on "cruise control" now that I know she'll run. After 8
1/2 years its a good feel'in!!
Made a windshield this weekend, so cross that off the list. It's
gett'in closer to Tuesday!! I will work on cover'in her this winter. Got
a reading of 1850 RPM static at full throttle with my home-made prop. I
think that is pretty close to where it should be. Good enough to test
fly'er with. I attached a "fish scale" type spring scale (300 lb
capacity) to the tail and got a reading of 260 lbs @ full throttle. Does
anybody know if this is good?? I have no idea, but she was pull'in like
a banshee!!
Hopefully this report will serve as an encouragement to spur on all
the rest that are behind me. Keep-on plodding along!! Each small step is
one more toward your end goal............. Can't wait to fly her!!
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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To better show the outline of the new windshild (for the photo) I put
tape around the edge. If you compare the windshild with the tape to the
front windshild without the tape you can see the change I made. I'm
sure someone else can come up with a better design but it works for me.
The front windshild (old design) was 6" taller than the front of the
cockpit and the new windshild is 9.5" above the cockpit. Tonight I'll
be making a new windshild for the front. The white vertical lines you
can see in the new windshild is where I bent each side about 30 degrees
to bend around the cockpit. The front windshild is also bent but you
can't see the lines in this photo.
Hopes this helps
Gene
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This is a second and last photo of the windshild. This time without the
tape and it may make it easier to understand what I'm trying to explain.
Gene
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Gene,
Have you had a chance to test fly it? Any
concerns about changed airflow over the fin and
rudder?
Thanks,
Jeff
>
>This is a second and last photo of the
>windshild. This time without the tape and it
>may make it easier to understand what I'm trying
>to explain.
>Gene
>
>
>Attachment converted: HD:windshild 002.jpg (JPEG/IC) (00C424D3)
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Associate Professor of Ophthalmology
Emory University School of Medicine
Editor-in-Chief
Molecular Vision
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Jeff. Good catch! Yes I have noticed a small amount of tail heavyness but
I believe once I make and install the front windshild that it will do away
with it (I use to fly without a front windshild and experienced the same
tail heavyness until I installed the front windshild). It wasn't much, but
enough so that N502R was not flying hands off but instead wanted to climb a
bit at cruise. I think that rather than have any effect on the fin, I'm
getting the climb because the windshild slopes back and is installed near
the trailing edge of the wing. I believe the air over the taller sloping
windshild is pushing down on the airplane behind the CG (sort of like
holding your arm out the side causing the airplane to turn in that
direction. The front windshild, on the other hand, is located forward of
the CG and I believe the wind pushing down on it will even things out. Even
if the installation of the taller front windshild does not return it to
hands off flying, I will leave them on as the flying is so much more
enjoyable in cool weather with the taller windshild and the change is so
small. I did not notice any other effect. I have flown with it for two
hours, hard climb, fast descent, steep turns and cruise plus slow flight and
was unable to detect anyother area where there was a change in the flight
characteristics.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Boatright" <jboatri@emory.edu>
Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 4:38 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: windshild
>
> Gene,
>
> Have you had a chance to test fly it? Any concerns about changed airflow
> over the fin and rudder?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jeff
>
>>
>>This is a second and last photo of the windshild. This time without the
>>tape and it may make it easier to understand what I'm trying to explain.
>>Gene
>>
>>
>>Attachment converted: HD:windshild 002.jpg (JPEG/IC) (00C424D3)
>
>
> --
> ---
>
> Jeffrey H. Boatright, Ph.D.
> Associate Professor of Ophthalmology
> Emory University School of Medicine
> Editor-in-Chief
> Molecular Vision
>
>
> --
> Date: 10/28/2008 10:04 AM
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Model A test run report |
Dan,
That should be equivalent to 39 to 47 HP.
Others might have an idea of how much a A engine develops at the speed read.
Congrats,
Miguel Azevedo
Piper PA22/20-150
On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 5:26 PM, <HelsperSew@aol.com> wrote:
> Hello good people!
>
> Today was a glorious and warm day here in northern Illinois. 8-1/2 years in
> the trenches so far. I rolled out my Piet from the hangar and tied'er down
> at the tail. Added about two gallons of gas, and pulled'er through 5 blades
> after a one-shot prime. Walked back 'round and twisted the mags around to
> "both". Mosied back around to the front and took a'hold of the prop and
> after three blades she came to life! What a great feeling!! There is
> noth'in quite like the sound of an "A" and the breeze through your hair (if
> you have any left). Ran'er up for quite a while and just took it all in!
> This is the second day of runn'in her so a bit more relaxed and enjoyable.
> I'm on "cruise control" now that I know she'll run. After 8 1/2 years its a
> good feel'in!!
>
> Made a windshield this weekend, so cross that off the list. It's gett'in
> closer to Tuesday!! I will work on cover'in her this winter. Got a reading
> of 1850 RPM static at full throttle with my home-made prop. I think that is
> pretty close to where it should be. Good enough to test fly'er with. I
> attached a "fish scale" type spring scale (300 lb capacity) to the tail and
> got a reading of 260 lbs @ full throttle. Does anybody know if this is
> good?? I have no idea, but she was pull'in like a banshee!!
>
> Hopefully this report will serve as an encouragement to spur on all the
> rest that are behind me. Keep-on plodding along!! Each small step is one
> more toward your end goal............. Can't wait to fly her!!
>
> Dan Helsper
> Poplar Grove, IL.
>
>
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Gene
I also have an over sized windshield and the wind goes right over me making
it confortable and quiet.
One very nice thing on the Piet design, is that you can trim out the balance
using the flying wires on the horiz stab. I made a couple of changes
recently which left my plane a little nose heavy at cruise. I let off one
turn on the front leading wires and tightened one turn on the bottom. Now
it flies perfectly.
It was also a beautiful day in NW Wisc. It's weird flying over some of the
local snow Ski areas which are open any I was in a light jacket. Soon the
lakes will be frozen which will make for some exciting flying at 1-3 ft.
Dick N.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene & Tammy" <zharvey@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 6:57 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: windshild
Jeff. Good catch! Yes I have noticed a small amount of tail heavyness but
I believe once I make and install the front windshild that it will do away
with it (I use to fly without a front windshild and experienced the same
tail heavyness until I installed the front windshild). It wasn't much, but
enough so that N502R was not flying hands off but instead wanted to climb a
bit at cruise. I think that rather than have any effect on the fin, I'm
getting the climb because the windshild slopes back and is installed near
the trailing edge of the wing. I believe the air over the taller sloping
windshild is pushing down on the airplane behind the CG (sort of like
holding your arm out the side causing the airplane to turn in that
direction. The front windshild, on the other hand, is located forward of
the CG and I believe the wind pushing down on it will even things out. Even
if the installation of the taller front windshild does not return it to
hands off flying, I will leave them on as the flying is so much more
enjoyable in cool weather with the taller windshild and the change is so
small. I did not notice any other effect. I have flown with it for two
hours, hard climb, fast descent, steep turns and cruise plus slow flight and
was unable to detect anyother area where there was a change in the flight
characteristics.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Boatright" <jboatri@emory.edu>
Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 4:38 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: windshild
>
> Gene,
>
> Have you had a chance to test fly it? Any concerns about changed airflow
> over the fin and rudder?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jeff
>
>>
>>This is a second and last photo of the windshild. This time without the
>>tape and it may make it easier to understand what I'm trying to explain.
>>Gene
>>
>>
>>Attachment converted: HD:windshild 002.jpg (JPEG/IC) (00C424D3)
>
>
> --
> ---
>
> Jeffrey H. Boatright, Ph.D.
> Associate Professor of Ophthalmology
> Emory University School of Medicine
> Editor-in-Chief
> Molecular Vision
>
>
> --
> Date: 10/28/2008 10:04 AM
>
>
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Gene,
When I bought Felix the GN-1 the seller gave me an extra windshield that was about
10" tall. He said he replaced it with a smaller windshield because it blanked
out the rudder and it scared him so he took it off. I flew the plane all summer
2007 with the short windshield. About this time last year it started to
get cold so I cut down the tall windshield to 7 1/2" and installed it, much better.
I probably have at least 50 hours on it with the taller windshield and can
not detect any rudder blanking.
Another thing that really helps on colder days is a front cockpit cover, keeps
the cold air from coming up the pant legs.
Skip
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene & Tammy
Sent: 11/2/2008 6:08:32 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: windshield
This is a second and last photo of the windshield. This time without the tape
and it may make it easier to understand what I'm trying to explain.
Gene
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Gene,
Sounds great! We just remade the windshields on ours because they
were so scratched up. We made them the same size as original, but may
go to taller ones, as you did, for the same reason. Hey, do you have
any photos taken from the side, showing the angle of the windshield?
Congrats,
Jeff
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Subject: | Re: Model A test run report |
This might be of interest;
http://www.amuffler.com/dyno/dyno1.htm
Dan,
That should be equivalent to 39 to 47 HP.
Others might have an idea of how much a A engine develops at the speed
read.
Congrats,
Miguel Azevedo
Piper PA22/20-150
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