---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 11/03/08: 15 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 0. 12:17 AM - Please Make a Contribution to Support Your Lists... (Matt Dralle) 1. 03:04 AM - Dual mags on Model A (HelsperSew@aol.com) 2. 04:46 AM - Re: aileron stuff (Phillips, Jack) 3. 05:18 AM - Re: aileron stuff (Richard Schreiber) 4. 06:06 AM - windshild (Gene & Tammy) 5. 06:07 AM - Re: windshild (Gene & Tammy) 6. 07:11 AM - Jury Strut Attachment at the Spar? (John Egan) 7. 12:12 PM - Re: Jury Strut Attachment at the Spar? (Don Emch) 8. 12:46 PM - Re: Re: Jury Strut Attachment at the Spar? (John Egan) 9. 01:04 PM - Re: Re: Jury Strut Attachment at the Spar? (Jack T. Textor) 10. 01:23 PM - Re: Re: Jury Strut Attachment at the Spar? (Phillips, Jack) 11. 01:30 PM - jury strut sketch attached (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]) 12. 04:38 PM - Re: Jury Strut Attachment at the Spar? (HelsperSew@aol.com) 13. 06:34 PM - Re: Jury Strut Attachment at the Spar? (Don Emch) 14. 08:36 PM - Icom A22 / GPS 12 garmin (KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP) ________________________________ Message 0 _____________________________________ Time: 12:17:52 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: Pietenpol-List: Please Make a Contribution to Support Your Lists... Dear Listers, Just a reminder that November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Please make a Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these great List services!! Pick up a really nice free gift with your qualifying Contribution too! The Contribution Site is fast and easy: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:04:06 AM PST US From: HelsperSew@aol.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Dual mags on Model A Gene (Rambo), Yes I have an aftermarket head with 8 plug holes. I have one mag driven off the end of the crank, and the other off the camshaft. Photo attached. Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. **************Plan your next getaway with AOL Travel. Check out Today's Hot 5 Travel Deals! ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:46:46 AM PST US Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: aileron stuff From: "Phillips, Jack" Looks great, Rick. Of course I'm partial to engine-turned instrument panels. Jack Phillips NX899JP _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Schreiber Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 2:51 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: aileron stuff Well guys here is a status report on my project. Per Dan Helsper's request I attached some photos of my wing with the aileron attached. I have also included a photo of drilling the aileron horn attachment. I used the hardwood block and tube method to insure the holes were aligned properly and perpendicular. This idea came from Chris Tracy on his web site. It worked well. This is the same method I used to drill all of the holes for the aileron hinge attachment screws. On the wings I still need to put in the nut plates for the aileron hinges, mount the aileron pulley supports and then run the cable. The fuselage is pretty well done, including all of the controls and cables I have mounted the main instruments in the IP, but still need to do some more like the engine gages, throttle, carb heat etc.. I am going to put the fuel tank in the front and that still needs to be made. The wing center section is complete. My empennage is complete and has been fitted to the fuselage with the guy wires for a test fit. Next on the agenda is the tail wheel and the straight axle main gear. I'd like to have my Piet done for the 80th in Oshkosh, but realistically that might be a stretch, depending on how much I get done this winter. I am also going to use a corvair engine. I have the core, but I still need to rebuild it. Around Valparaiso (VPZ) we have 4 Piet's in various stages on construction. All of them will be using Corvair power. The plan is to rebuild all of the engines at the same time in the same location with the assistance of our local EAA tech counselor. The great thing is the tech counselor is rebuilding a Piet and also doing a corvair conversion. He is also the person who did the restoration of the Allison engines for the Glacier Girl P-38 a few years ago. Rick Schreiber lmforge@earthlink.net _________________________________________________ This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privilege d, proprietary or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is p rohibited. Dansk - Deutsch - Espanol - Francais - Italiano - Japanese - Nederlands - N orsk - Portuguese ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:18:35 AM PST US From: "Richard Schreiber" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: aileron stuff Thanks for the complement Jack. The inspiration actually came from photos of your plane and a couple of others. Rick Schreiber Valparaiso, IN ----- Original Message ----- From: Phillips, Jack Sent: 11/3/2008 6:50:20 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: aileron stuff Looks great, Rick. Of course Im partial to engine-turned instrument panels. Jack Phillips NX899JP From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Schreiber Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 2:51 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: aileron stuff Well guys here is a status report on my project. Per Dan Helsper's request I attached some photos of my wing with the aileron attached. I have also included a photo of drilling the aileron horn attachment. I used the hardwood block and tube method to insure the holes were aligned properly and perpendicular. This idea came from Chris Tracy on his web site. It worked well. This is the same method I used to drill all of the holes for the aileron hinge attachment screws. On the wings I still need to put in the nut plates for the aileron hinges, mount the aileron pulley supports and then run the cable. The fuselage is pretty well done, including all of the controls and cables I have mounted the main instruments in the IP, but still need to do some more like the engine gages, throttle, carb heat etc.. I am going to put the fuel tank in the front and that still needs to be made. The wing center section is complete. My empennage is complete and has been fitted to the fuselage with the guy wires for a test fit. Next on the agenda is the tail wheel and the straight axle main gear. I'd like to have my Piet done for the 80th in Oshkosh, but realistically that might be a stretch, depending on how much I get done this winter. I am also going to use a corvair engine. I have the core, but I still need to rebuild it. Around Valparaiso (VPZ) we have 4 Piet's in various stages on construction. All of them will be using Corvair power. The plan is to rebuild all of the engines at the same time in the same location with the assistance of our local EAA tech counselor. The great thing is the tech counselor is rebuilding a Piet and also doing a corvair conversion. He is also the person who did the restoration of the Allison engines for the Glacier Girl P-38 a few years ago. Rick Schreiber lmforge@earthlink.net _________________________________________________ or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender Dansk - Deutsch - Espanol - Francais - Italiano - Japanese - Nederlands - Norsk - Portuguese ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:06:29 AM PST US From: "Gene & Tammy" Subject: Pietenpol-List: windshild Jeff, this is the only side photo I have. I don't think the angle it's bent at is all that important as the windshild is flexable and can be formed around the cockpit. I used a brake to bend the windshild and I bent it somewhere around 30 to 45 degrees (just eyeballed it). If you want more photos let me know and I'll send them directly to you. Skip, glad to hear that the cockpit cover helped cut down the draft. I've been considering making one to see if it would. Now I know and I'll be making one for sure. Dick, I'm really envious. Wish Tennessee had some real winter with frozen lakes to land on. I've spent most of my life in Alaska and do miss a "real" winter. Winter flying is like tail wheel flying. If you haven't done it, you've miss out on the best part of flying. The info on adjusting the flying wires is very much appreciated and if installing the front windshild does not take care of the tail heavyness, I'll adjust them. Gene ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:07:37 AM PST US From: "Gene & Tammy" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: windshild Jeff, I just realized I may have misunderstood your question about the angle of the windshild. If what you want is the angle the windshild slopes back, let me know and I'll get a photo with the plane in flying attitude. Gene Do Not archive ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:11:43 AM PST US From: John Egan Subject: Pietenpol-List: Jury Strut Attachment at the Spar? Hi Builders,=0A=0AWould people like to comment on methods on how to attach jury struts to the wing spars?- Just looking for options to consider.- I have searched the archives too. Thank you.=0A=0AMy progress report:=0AFus elage on wire spoked wheels, cockpit cowlings in place and rear cockpit ins truments in place.=0AWings on , and struts mostly made and on.=0A=0AThank y ou in advance all for your responses and I appreciate the-photos and come ntary-from builders who keep me inspired.=0A=0Ajohn e.=0Agreenville, wi. =0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 12:12:13 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Jury Strut Attachment at the Spar? From: "Don Emch" Hi John, There are several ways to do it. This was my method. I welded a tube in to the strut and put an eye bolt in. Check out the fly in the picture too! Huh. http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Don%20Emch/Brodhead__20070720_149.JPG Don Emch NX899DE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=212133#212133 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 12:46:19 PM PST US From: John Egan Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Jury Strut Attachment at the Spar? Thanks Don, however I am-curious about the attachment at the spar, not at -the strut.- What did you do at the spar? Any pictures of flies on the spar attachment.=0A=0ACan you remind me what shade of green you painted tha t as well?- I like it.=0A=0Ajohn=0Agreenville, wi=0A=0A=0A=0A____________ ____________________=0AFrom: Don Emch =0ATo: pietenpol-lis t@matronics.com=0ASent: Monday, November 3, 2008 2:11:41 PM=0ASubject: Piet enpol-List: Re: Jury Strut Attachment at the Spar?=0A=0A--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Don Emch" =0A=0AHi John,=0A=0AThere ar e several ways to do it.- This was my method.- I welded a tube in to th e strut and put an eye bolt in.- Check out the fly in the picture too!- Huh.=0A=0Ahttp://westcoastpiet.com/images/Don%20Emch/Brodhead__20070720_14 9.JPG=0A=0ADon Emch=0ANX899DE=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A =0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=212133#212133=0A=0A=0A=0A ========0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 01:04:33 PM PST US Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Jury Strut Attachment at the Spar? From: "Jack T. Textor" Don, I bet you were careful drilling those struts! Jack www.textors.com do not archive There are several ways to do it. This was my method. I welded a tube in to the strut and put an eye bolt in. Check out the fly in the picture too! Huh. http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Don%20Emch/Brodhead__20070720_149.JPG Don Emch NX899DE ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 01:23:20 PM PST US Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Jury Strut Attachment at the Spar? From: "Phillips, Jack" John, Here is what I did at the spar. I made a fitting from =BE" x =BE" 6061-T6 aluminum angle from Home Depot. At the lift strut I did exactly like Don E mch, except I cut the end of the eyebolt off flush with the lift strut and welded it too. Here is a picture: Jack Phillips NX899JP Raleigh, NC _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-lis t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Egan Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 3:44 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Jury Strut Attachment at the Spar? Thanks Don, however I am curious about the attachment at the spar, not at t he strut. What did you do at the spar? Any pictures of flies on the spar a ttachment. Can you remind me what shade of green you painted that as well? I like it. john greenville, wi _____ From: Don Emch Sent: Monday, November 3, 2008 2:11:41 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Jury Strut Attachment at the Spar? Hi John, There are several ways to do it. This was my method. I welded a tube in t o the strut and put an eye bolt in. Check out the fly in the picture too! Huh. http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Don%20Emch/Brodhead__20070720_149.JPG Don Emch NX899DE Read this topic _________________________________________________ This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privilege d, proprietary or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is p rohibited. Dansk - Deutsch - Espanol - Francais - Italiano - Japanese - Nederlands - N orsk - Portuguese ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 01:30:21 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: jury strut sketch attached From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]" This is how I did it on my plane. Easy...worked well. Mike C. ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 04:38:10 PM PST US From: HelsperSew@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Jury Strut Attachment at the Spar? John, Here are a couple of photos of how I attached my jury struts to the spar/strut. Hope this helps. Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. **************Plan your next getaway with AOL Travel. Check out Today's Hot 5 Travel Deals! ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 06:34:46 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Jury Strut Attachment at the Spar? From: "Don Emch" John, Sorry about that. I guess I can't tell the difference between spar and strut. I did my spar attachment just like Mike Cuy's. Bent some flat stock into an angle. I think it might have been .063". Hey Jack, yeah drilling those rates right up there with drilling the spars. Makes for a few tense moments. Don Emch NX899DE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=212190#212190 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 08:36:59 PM PST US From: "KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Icom A22 / GPS 12 garmin -Members: - I have a Garmin handheld GPS 12 for sale which works great!! -500 way-poi nts, battery operated, waterproof...excellent shape $100.00. - I also have a Icom Navicom IC-A22 radio in excellent shape, both battery pa cks, charger, cover, instruction booklet, first $150.00. - KM HEIDE - =0A=0A=0A ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.