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0. 12:20 AM - What Members Are Saying... (Matt Dralle)
1. 04:36 AM - wing assembly (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC])
2. 07:31 AM - New Pictures on the web page ()
3. 08:40 AM - Re: New Pictures on the web page (Bill Church)
4. 09:06 AM - Re: New Pictures on the web page (Bill Church)
5. 09:19 AM - Re: New Pictures on the web page (TOM STINEMETZE)
6. 09:34 AM - Re: New Pictures on the web page (Bill Church)
7. 09:41 AM - A huge Thank You to Chris Tracy (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC])
8. 09:50 AM - nails in spars (Jeff Hill)
9. 10:44 AM - Re: New Pictures on the web page (Jeff Boatright)
10. 02:01 PM - Nice Pics and other update info its the 2 for 1 email day (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
11. 03:18 PM - Pietenpol on Barnstormers (gcardinal)
12. 07:45 PM - New Pictures on the web page (Oscar Zuniga)
13. 08:05 PM - Re: Machine gun plans (BScott116@aol.com)
14. 09:04 PM - Re: New Pictures on the web page ()
15. 09:07 PM - Re: A huge Thank You to Chris Tracy ()
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| Subject: | What Members Are Saying... |
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Just like doing brakes on your car, the 'other' side always goes (well
almost always unless Murphy shows up) twice
as fast and same thing with wing assembly. I found wing assembly to be
great fun and it went so much faster than the
fuselage but as Frank Pavliga once told me 'the fuselage takes so much
longer than wings because everything bolts to
the fuselage !"
Mike C.
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| Subject: | New Pictures on the web page |
I was cleaning up my computer so I could reformat the hard drive due to
frustrating computer problems and came across some pictures Dan Helsper
sent me way to long ago, sorry for loosing them Dan. Dan does some
incredibly nice work.
http://westcoastpiet.com/dan_helsper.htm
Jeff Boatright has their plane flying again after the uhmm firm Navy
like landing. Check out how good Jeff's plane looks now.
http://westcoastpiet.com/wayne,_bob_anf_jeff.htm
Arthur Mason from England sent me some pictures too. Arthur has been
flying his Pietenpol in England for a long time and it still looks
great.
http://westcoastpiet.com/new_page_28.htm
As long as were into project updates, I have been mounting the control
horns on the tail. http://westcoastpiet.com/control_horns1.htm
I am slowly working on a write-up on how I make the control horns for
the webpage.
Chris Tracy
Sacramento, Ca
Website at http://www.WestCoastPiet.com
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| Subject: | New Pictures on the web page |
Every time I see photos of Dan's metal fittings, I can't help wondering what
color (or colour, for those of us up North, or across the pond) scheme he
has planned for his Piet. But I don't want to know. I want it to be a
surprise. Like waiting till your child is born to find out if it's a boy or
a girl (or otherwise).
And, after seeing the new pics of Jeff's plane after the make-over, I had to
check to see that it was the same plane. What a difference a paint scheme
(or hairstyle) can make.
Thanks for posting the pics, Chris.
Bill C.
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| Subject: | New Pictures on the web page |
Oh, in my last post I forgot to mention the great step-by-step photos Chris
added for the building of his control horns.
To all those out there that are afraid of the built-up control horns, you
can see here that they don't take any special equipment to make. A vise, a
hammer, a couple pieces of rod, and a bit of bar. Don't know if Chris was an
experienced welder before starting to build his Piet, but he appears to be
one now. So much nicer looking than the flat steel control horns (in my
opinion, anyway). Well worth the extra effort, and I would imagine a very
satisfying part of the project.
Very nice work, Chris.
Bill C.
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| Subject: | New Pictures on the web page |
I have been experiencing problems receiving messages on this list which,
thanks to Matt Dralle, now appear to be fixed. Would you mind resending
the photos for making those control horns or a link where they can be
seen? That does look like a fun project.
Tom Stinemetze
McPherson, KS.
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>Oh, in my last post I forgot to mention the great step-by-step photos
Chris added for the building of his control horns.<
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| Subject: | New Pictures on the web page |
Tom,
The link was in the original message from Chris.
But here it is again:
<http://westcoastpiet.com/control_horns1.htm>
http://westcoastpiet.com/control_horns1.htm
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| Subject: | A huge Thank You to Chris Tracy |
Chris,
I cannot tell you how many times I have sent the link to your photos of
Pietenpols to others. Just a fantastic wealth of
information you've compiled for us and I'm never surprised to learn a
new way that builders have come up with to build
the various parts of a Piet---totally creative and refreshing to see.
Many others on the list maintain excellent builders logs, blogs, and web
pages and I often times will refer questions to
those other sites as well. What a talented a diverse group of guys in
the Pietenpol community. Just fantastic people
and most of them are nice even:)
Mike C.
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I recently was part of a Boeing Stearman rebuild. The ribs are not glued bu
t MAY be nailed to the spars if you want. I put in a couple of those small
brads into each spar just to keep them from moving during the covering proc
ess. They weren't really needed since the ribs were a tight fit anyway. If
you are going to use nails=2C don't do it until the drag and anti-drag wire
s are in place and snug. That way you can move the ribs a half an inch or s
o either way to keep them clear of the wires. That is the way it is done on
the Stearman. The ribs do not need to be in the exact position that is sho
wn on the plans unless it is one of the "key" ribs like the root=2C wing-ti
p or aileron-end rib.Cheers=2C Jeff HillLead CoordinatorHawk One 817/706-81
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| Subject: | New Pictures on the web page |
Bill,
Thanks for the kind words. The plane looks 100% better. I think it's
stronger, too. Could not have been possible without the help of Mark,
Mike, Ron, Sky, & Tom (the regulars at 2GA9).
BTW, that prop is a Cloudcars 76x38 and is a great success. Climb
rate hasn't been measured precisely yet, but at the point in the
pattern where we used to be at 400' agl, we're now at 600', and where
we used to be at 600', we're at 1000' !! No change in stop speed, but
we're turning 2500 rpm in initial climb (on a C-75/85).
Jeff
PS: Hairstyle?? I used to have one of those...
>And, after seeing the new pics of Jeff's plane after the make-over,
>I had to check to see that it was the same plane. What a difference
>a paint scheme (or hairstyle) can make.
>
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| Subject: | Nice Pics and other update info its the 2 for 1 email |
day
Jeff
she sure looks different from last I saw her, nice job!
I was on the builders site and noticed that the list may be a little short
or in need of updating. Here is the link for anyone who has not added
themselves or needs to update their information, I thought it may be a good time
for
everyone to stop ther, take a look , sign up or do some maintenance on their
entries.
_http://www.flyingwood.com/Directory.asp_
(http://www.flyingwood.com/Directory.asp)
The work was done by someone else the least we can do is maker sure our own
information is accurate.
John
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| Subject: | Pietenpol on Barnstormers |
http://www.barnstormers.com/listing.php?id=286220
I saw this project a couple of years ago. Good workmanship.
Kapler hinges and Ken Perkins steel fittings according to the owner.
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| Subject: | New Pictures on the web page |
Wow, those are some nifty pictures on Chris Tracy's site! Dan Helsper's plane
is going to be a beauty, with classic Air Camper lines and features and that 35
HP cabin heater up front! And the face-lift on the Boatright Piet is a day-and-night
makeover all right! Chris' website is truly a treasure and a beginning
Piet builder could do much worse than to spend an hour or two just browsing
the photos on that website to glean details and information that pictures can
tell much better than words.
PS, this past Nov. 11, Veteran's Day, marked four years since 41CC went nose-over.
What a joy it's been to fly the airplane after getting it repaired and back
in the air though. You guys with snow on the ground, I feel sorry for you.
We can still go out and fly anytime we want down here in sunny TX!!!
Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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| Subject: | Re: Machine gun plans |
I have the machine gun plans. I printed them from the dawn patrol site. It
is just one page of diagram. Go to their site and you will find what you
want.
In a message dated 11/16/2008 8:24:38 P.M. Central Standard Time,
wd6bor@vom.com writes:
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Darrel Jones <wd6bor@vom.com>
Richard Carden wrote:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Richard Carden
> <flywrite@verizon.net>
>
> I've had no success in reaching the gentleman in Kansas City who
> reportedly has a booklet or set of instructions for making the propane
> machine gun as per the kcdawnpatrol website. If anyone has these
> instructions and is finished with them, I'd be happy to buy them.
> Thanks, Dick Carden
Richard and the group,
I am also looking for the propane machine gun plans. I didn't want to
re-invent the wheel trying to come up with one for my airplane. Please
let me know what you find.
Thanks,
Darrel Jones,
Pfeifer Sport NX154JP
Sonoma, CA
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| Subject: | Re: New Pictures on the web page |
Thanks Bill. The control horns turned out to be a very satisfying
project. These are the second set I made. The first ones were simply
bent into facets, kind of like the stealth fighter. Thanks to Jim
Markle for saying I could do better, these have the curved shape they
should. And I must admit are way better looking then the first set.
As for welding, I had never welded an inch prior to starting to
building. I tried for 3 years to find someone to weld the fittings but
gave up and bought a gas welder and the welding video and book from EAA.
Did some reading on the web and went at it. I can't imagine building
this plane and not being able to weld my own stuff. It comes in so
handy. And to think I was afraid of welding when I started. What was I
thinking. I like welding now so much so that I am thinking about buying
a TIG welder. It's not worth the cost but it would be great fun to have.
Chris Tracy
Sacramento, Ca
Website at http://www.WestCoastPiet.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Church
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 9:06 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: New Pictures on the web page
Oh, in my last post I forgot to mention the great step-by-step photos
Chris added for the building of his control horns.
To all those out there that are afraid of the built-up control horns,
you can see here that they don't take any special equipment to make. A
vise, a hammer, a couple pieces of rod, and a bit of bar. Don't know if
Chris was an experienced welder before starting to build his Piet, but
he appears to be one now. So much nicer looking than the flat steel
control horns (in my opinion, anyway). Well worth the extra effort, and
I would imagine a very satisfying part of the project.
Very nice work, Chris.
Bill C.
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| Subject: | Re: A huge Thank You to Chris Tracy |
Thanks Mike, I have just about worn out your video tape. Its been a
great help to me.
Chris Tracy
Sacramento, Ca
Website at http://www.WestCoastPiet.com
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----- Original Message -----
From: Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 9:40 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: A huge Thank You to Chris Tracy
Chris,
I cannot tell you how many times I have sent the link to your photos
of Pietenpols to others. Just a fantastic wealth of
information you've compiled for us and I'm never surprised to learn a
new way that builders have come up with to build
the various parts of a Piet---totally creative and refreshing to see.
Many others on the list maintain excellent builders logs, blogs, and
web pages and I often times will refer questions to
those other sites as well. What a talented a diverse group of guys in
the Pietenpol community. Just fantastic people
and most of them are nice even:)
Mike C.
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