---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 12/06/08: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:57 AM - Re: Re: Re: Re: Spar Varnish/Fabric Painting (Richard Carden) 2. 06:01 AM - Re: Leading edge material (Richard Schreiber) 3. 08:10 AM - drilling in tight places (Oscar Zuniga) 4. 11:31 AM - make that (spelling) (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]) 5. 11:31 AM - Jack P's idea for LE (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]) 6. 02:39 PM - Trailing edge (Dale Johnson) 7. 03:33 PM - way,way off topic (walt) 8. 03:47 PM - Re: Re: Re: Spar Varnish/Housepaint (Rick Holland) 9. 05:10 PM - 'twas three weeks before Christmas (Oscar Zuniga) 10. 06:19 PM - Re: Re: Leading edge material OT (Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB) 11. 07:32 PM - Re: Re: Leading edge material OT (Clif Dawson) 12. 08:01 PM - Re: Re: Re: Spar Varnish/Housepaint (Steve Eldredge) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:57:44 AM PST US From: Richard Carden Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Re: Re: Re: Spar Varnish/Fabric Painting > I somehow missed the Steve Eldridge house paint posting. After > reading it, I think I'm back to the house paint scheme. Thanks to > all who called it to my attention. Dick Carden ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:01:53 AM PST US From: "Richard Schreiber" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Leading edge material In addition, you can use a 1/4 inch chuck with a hexagonal spline. The spline will fit into the flexible shaft extension. Keyless chucks are available at Home Depot for only $4.50. Rick Schreiber ----- Original Message ----- From: Clif Dawson Sent: 12/6/2008 1:16:57 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Leading edge material That's a good start. Now go get a long bit. It will be bendy. The block will hold it straight and the length between the drill and the block can be bent by holding the drill at the required angle to force an arc in the shaft. I've got 3/16" and 1/4" ones 12" long Another option would be those bits with 1/4" hex ends. Plug that into one of those bendable screwdriver extensions. Clif Just a thought, Tomhave you tried drilling a hole (same size) thru a block of Oak (at least 1 thick), clamp hard to the frame, and maybe it will hold the bit where you want it? You may have to start with a small hole (same set-up) and increase to your size. Im using that method on all my holes for the metal fittings on the fuse. Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion Tail done, working on fuselage (endless metal parts!) (12 ribs down) ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:10:58 AM PST US From: Oscar Zuniga Subject: Pietenpol-List: drilling in tight places Tom: for some ideas, go here- http://www.eaa.org/video/homebuilders.html Scroll down to the video "Drilling In Tight Places" (5 min., 24 sec.) and gather some possible ideas. Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC, grounded San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:31:40 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: make that (spelling) From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]" LEARNING. I'm still learning how to spell too..... (do not archive) ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:31:40 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Jack P's idea for LE From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]" I just read how you did your LE Jack. Nice. You used a 1" x 2" piece of sitka (pieces) and made two angled cuts then shaped up with a plane. Did you shape it in place ? Here I am 10 years flying behind me and I'm still leering neat ideas about how guys have done things. Mike C. PS-- for those of you who haven't met Jack....don't believe a word he says. He's a four-flusher, a rabble-rouser, a southern rebel, and an infidel. He also happens to be a great friend. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:39:12 PM PST US From: "Dale Johnson" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Trailing edge Michael NX18235 used redwood for the trailing edge also. Used a biscuit jointer to cut a slot in the ribs and a table saw to cut a slot in the trailing edge. Cut the biscuit in half and glue it in the slot and the rib. You end up with a gussit like joint very strong. Dale Dale Johnson ddjohn@earthlink.net Why Wait? Move to EarthLink. ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 03:33:25 PM PST US From: "walt" Subject: Pietenpol-List: way,way off topic Just wanted to share with you an amazing girl. She has given me my bienial for the last many times. And I flew with her in Helo's just because I wanted to. One of the best female pilots in the country, and wanted to race the Iditarod race in Alaska. I will contribute to her effert, and wish her well. I love to hear of ordinary people, who do extraordinary things http://www.iditarod.com/race/musherprofiles/musherbio_326.html walt evans NX140DL ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 03:47:00 PM PST US From: "Rick Holland" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Re: Spar Varnish/Housepaint Steve What type of Latex did you use for your top coats, gloss? Rick On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:26 AM, Ryan Mueller wrote: > Not to beat a dead horse here, but Steve Eldredge had at least 10 years on > his latex house paint finish Piet; I think that would qualify as a long term > test.... > > http://www.westcoastpiet.com/steve_eldridge.htm > > Ryan > > > On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 7:02 AM, Richard Carden wrote: > >> flywrite@verizon.net> >> >> >> Thanks to all who responded to my post about the A-Z covering process. It >> does not appear that there are any long-term house paint Piets out there, >> and I'm not inclined to be the first by whom the new is tried. So, my >> present thinking is that I'll go with the Stewart water paint system. Thanks >> again for all the input. Regards, Dick Carden > > > * > > -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 05:10:01 PM PST US From: Oscar Zuniga Subject: Pietenpol-List: 'twas three weeks before Christmas Beautiful day at the airport and I had work to do. Jacked up the starboard side and installed a new tire and tube, noticed the brake was a bit draggy on that side so I disassembled, cleaned, refilled, and bled it. Changed the engine oil, then went out to test-fly. Made three of the best landings I've ever made in the airplane. Landing No. 4 stunk, however ;o) Funny how that confidence thing goes to your head. Zero wind, I could make nice sweeping approaches with very little effort, roll out right on the numbers with about 50-52 MPH on the nose and no drifting off the centerline, and hardly even notice when the mains touched. The problem with landing no. 4 was that I let it get too slow (about 47-48 MPH while still a few feet off the runway). Checked the prop tracking since I had noticed a very tiny vibration after retorquing the prop bolts a week ago. Sure enough, one blade was 1/16" out from the other. I was surprised that it could make that much of a detectable buzz in the pilot's seat at cruise power. There is nothing Santa could bring me that would be more fun than this airplane! Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 06:19:16 PM PST US From: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB" Subject: Re: RE: Pietenpol-List: Leading edge material OT So you Start with a Chainsaw and finish with 2000 grit Sandpaper! Yes I am D Major. I hope to not have to put up with going to the Pentatonic in DC. Blue Skies, Steve D ----- Original Message ----- From: Clif Dawson Subject: Re: RE: Pietenpol-List: Leading edge material OT > > Yes, I think so too. > > Some things, like roughing close to a shape, I do with power. > The fine finishing I do by hand. The thing with power in > hand held tools like routers, planers, sanders and saws is that > they don't stop turning when you stop moving. It's way too easy > to go too far, to gouge or mis-shape the part. When hand > sanding or planing, you stop and the cutting stops. > > The most important thing is to have SHARP cutting edges. > That's another whole learning experience right there. I use > water stones myself. Many good woodworkers now use > various grades of sandpaper glued to flat surfaces. This > subject is the Holy Grail of craftsmen. It can start more > fights than politics. > > > So you're a D major are you. I'm an F# minor pentatonic > myself. :-) > > Clif > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB" > Do not archive. > > Having said that the master carpenters were pretty fast. No time spent > > charging or changing batteries, Pick up the tool and go to work. > Such as a Ford worker who only hangs doors > > > I guess homebuilders are more related to the former than the latter. > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 07:32:33 PM PST US From: "Clif Dawson" Subject: Re: RE: Pietenpol-List: Leading edge material OT What! Haven't you seen those chainsaw carvers? Going all the way down to 2000grit is a little excessive though. :-) Clif You know that black box that is used on airplanes? Why don't they make the whole plane out of that stuff? > So you Start with a Chainsaw and finish with 2000 grit Sandpaper! > Blue Skies, > Steve D ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 08:01:51 PM PST US From: Steve Eldredge Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Re: Spar Varnish/Housepaint Sherwin Williams SuperPaint High Gloss if I remember right. I went to chec k the cans, but I think my wife threw them away recently. I put that infor mation in the archives long ago. Search on Sherwin Williams and you should find it. I remember thinking that paying 20 dollars for a gallon of house paint sure sounded like a rip-off. It was still a deal however when Aerot hane was 4x the cost. Not sure what it is now. In any case, I think that any top quality name brand would work just as well. I wouldn't go with Wal *mart though. Best of luck Steve E From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-lis t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Holland Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 4:47 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Re: Spar Varnish/Housepaint Steve What type of Latex did you use for your top coats, gloss? Rick On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:26 AM, Ryan Mueller > wrote: Not to beat a dead horse here, but Steve Eldredge had at least 10 years on his latex house paint finish Piet; I think that would qualify as a long ter m test.... http://www.westcoastpiet.com/steve_eldridge.htm Ryan On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 7:02 AM, Richard Carden > wrote: mailto:flywrite@verizon.net>> Thanks to all who responded to my post about the A-Z covering process. It d oes not appear that there are any long-term house paint Piets out there, an d I'm not inclined to be the first by whom the new is tried. So, my present thinking is that I'll go with the Stewart water paint system. Thanks again for all the input. 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