---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 01/03/09: 18 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:14 AM - Tail wheel spring fitting (carson) 2. 04:32 AM - Re: The Great Waldo Pepper- 2009 (walt) 3. 05:58 AM - Split axle bungees (Don Emch) 4. 06:10 AM - Re: Tail wheel spring fitting (H RULE) 5. 07:01 AM - Re: The Great Waldo Pepper- 2009 (amsafetyc@aol.com) 6. 07:03 AM - Re: Pietenpol aerobatics (amsafetyc@aol.com) 7. 07:55 AM - Jim's Aerial (Oscar Zuniga) 8. 08:18 AM - Re: Pietenpol aerobatics (Michael Perez) 9. 08:24 AM - Re: Re: Pietenpol aerobatics (Michael Perez) 10. 10:08 AM - Re: Jim's Aerial (jimd) 11. 10:13 AM - Re: Jim's Aerial (jimd) 12. 10:52 AM - Re: Tail wheel spring fitting (Peter W Johnson) 13. 11:49 AM - Happy New Year (Lagowski Morrow) 14. 02:33 PM - Re: Pietenpol aerobatics (Jack Phillips) 15. 03:02 PM - NX221PT (Oscar Zuniga) 16. 03:10 PM - Re: The Great Waldo Pepper- 2009 (walt) 17. 05:50 PM - The Great Waldo Pepper- 2009 (Oscar Zuniga) 18. 11:52 PM - Re: The Great Waldo Pepper- 2009 (walt) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:14:29 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Tail wheel spring fitting From: "carson" Hi all How have people that have used the leaf spring type tailwheel fitted it to the A/C? Does anyone have some close up pictures or drawings I am sure that I have seen some somewhere a while back but cant seem to find them. Thanks for any help Carson Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=222518#222518 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:32:44 AM PST US From: "walt" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: The Great Waldo Pepper- 2009 My curiosity got to me. So last night I downloaded Waldo Pepper off the net. I'll watch it today. walt evans NX140DL do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: Gene Rambo To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 2:04 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: The Great Waldo Pepper- 2009 Might have to call you on that one Oscar, what time did you watch it????? About 10am here Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Oscar Zuniga To: Pietenpol List Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 10:06 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: The Great Waldo Pepper- 2009 I hereby lay claim to being the first Pietenpol list member to watch "The Great Waldo Pepper" in the new year of 2009. Actually, it was the first time I've ever seen the movie (I have it on VCR and now on DVD but had not viewed it since acquiring my own mint condition videotape). I expected a fairly lightweight film but it has EXCELLENT air action, a good story line, some very tense scenes, and I'm glad I own the movie now. I think my favorite line is going to be "I never give rides to kids- but for you I'll make an exception" (or whatever it is he tells the kid in the opening piece). Good movie. Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net http://www.matnbsp; via the Web title=http://forums.matronics.com/ href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com _p; generous bsp; title=http://www.matronics.com/contribution href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ================ ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:58:03 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Split axle bungees From: "Don Emch" Split axle Pieters, I have question for you guys that have wrapped the split axle bungees. I'm on my third set. My first set was only half inch and didn't work out too well. My second set was 5/8" and worked well for a couple of years. This past summer I ordered more 5/8" and replaced them but the bungee stock just didn't seem to be the same quality. They've softened some already. I like them nice and tight. Anyway I think I might take them off, shorten them some and wrap them back on. I have just been wrapping them on by hand. Lots of cussing required! Does anyone have any special tricks they've come up with to wrap them suckers on there really tight? Maybe a come-along? Some kind of fixture? Thanks, Don Emch NX899DE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=222540#222540 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:10:59 AM PST US From: H RULE Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Tail wheel spring fitting There is an excellent archive here on the Pietenpol list that if you take t he time to rubble through it you may find some pictures on this.I didn't ke ep the letters in my archives because I know this one is more comprehensive .-=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: carson =0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Saturday, Jan uary 3, 2009 4:13:43 AM=0ASubject: Pietenpol-List: Tail wheel spring fittin m.au>=0A=0AHi all=0AHow have people that have used the leaf spring type tai lwheel fitted it to the A/C?=0ADoes anyone have some close up pictures or d rawings I am sure that I have seen some somewhere a while back but cant see m to find them.=0AThanks for any help=0ACarson=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topi c online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=222518#22 ======================= ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:01:07 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: The Great Waldo Pepper- 2009 From: amsafetyc@aol.com IkFuZCBpZiB5b3UgcmVhbGx5IGRvbid0IGxpa2UgaXQgSWxsIHRocm93IGluIGFub3RoZXIgcmlk ZSBmb3IgZnJlZSINClNlbnQgZnJvbSBteSBWZXJpem9uIFdpcmVsZXNzIEJsYWNrQmVycnkNCg0K LS0tLS1PcmlnaW5hbCBNZXNzYWdlLS0tLS0NCkZyb206ICJ3YWx0IiA8d2FsdGRha0B2ZXJpem9u Lm5ldD4NCg0KRGF0ZTogU2F0LCAwMyBKYW4gMjAwOSAwNzozMTozNiANClRvOiA8cGlldGVucG9s LWxpc3RAbWF0cm9uaWNzLmNvbT4NClN1YmplY3Q6IFJlOiBQaWV0ZW5wb2wtTGlzdDogVGhlIEdy ZWF0IFdhbGRvIFBlcHBlci0gMjAwOQ0KDQoNCk15IGN1cmlvc2l0eSBnb3QgdG8gbWUuDQpTbyBs YXN0IG5pZ2h0IEkgZG93bmxvYWRlZCBXYWxkbyBQZXBwZXIgb2ZmIHRoZSBuZXQuDQpJJ2xsIHdh dGNoIGl0IHRvZGF5Lg0Kd2FsdCBldmFucw0KTlgxNDBETA0KDQpkbyBub3QgYXJjaGl2ZQ0KDQoN CiAgLS0tLS0gT3JpZ2luYWwgTWVzc2FnZSAtLS0tLSANCiAgRnJvbTogR2VuZSBSYW1ibyANCiAg VG86IHBpZXRlbnBvbC1saXN0QG1hdHJvbmljcy5jb20gDQogIFNlbnQ6IEZyaWRheSwgSmFudWFy eSAwMiwgMjAwOSAyOjA0IFBNDQogIFN1YmplY3Q6IFJlOiBQaWV0ZW5wb2wtTGlzdDogVGhlIEdy ZWF0IFdhbGRvIFBlcHBlci0gMjAwOQ0KDQoNCiAgTWlnaHQgaGF2ZSB0byBjYWxsIHlvdSBvbiB0 aGF0IG9uZSBPc2Nhciwgd2hhdCB0aW1lIGRpZCB5b3Ugd2F0Y2ggaXQ/Pz8/PyAgQWJvdXQgMTBh bSBoZXJlDQoNCiAgR2VuZQ0KICAgIC0tLS0tIE9yaWdpbmFsIE1lc3NhZ2UgLS0tLS0gDQogICAg RnJvbTogT3NjYXIgWnVuaWdhIA0KICAgIFRvOiBQaWV0ZW5wb2wgTGlzdCANCiAgICBTZW50OiBU aHVyc2RheSwgSmFudWFyeSAwMSwgMjAwOSAxMDowNiBQTQ0KICAgIFN1YmplY3Q6IFBpZXRlbnBv bC1MaXN0OiBUaGUgR3JlYXQgV2FsZG8gUGVwcGVyLSAyMDA5DQoNCg0KICAgIC0tPiBQaWV0ZW5w b2wtTGlzdCBtZXNzYWdlIHBvc3RlZCBieTogT3NjYXIgWnVuaWdhIDx0YWlsZHJhZ3NAaG90bWFp bC5jb20+DQoNCg0KICAgIEkgaGVyZWJ5IGxheSBjbGFpbSB0byBiZWluZyB0aGUgZmlyc3QgUGll dGVucG9sIGxpc3QgbWVtYmVyIHRvIHdhdGNoICJUaGUgR3JlYXQgV2FsZG8gUGVwcGVyIiBpbiB0 aGUgbmV3IHllYXIgb2YgMjAwOS4gIEFjdHVhbGx5LCBpdCB3YXMgdGhlIGZpcnN0IHRpbWUgSSd2 ZSBldmVyIHNlZW4gdGhlIG1vdmllIChJIGhhdmUgaXQgb24gVkNSIGFuZCBub3cgb24gRFZEIGJ1 dCBoYWQgbm90IHZpZXdlZCBpdCBzaW5jZSBhY3F1aXJpbmcgbXkgb3duIG1pbnQgY29uZGl0aW9u IHZpZGVvdGFwZSkuDQoNCiAgICBJIGV4cGVjdGVkIGEgZmFpcmx5IGxpZ2h0d2VpZ2h0IGZpbG0g YnV0IGl0IGhhcyBFWENFTExFTlQgYWlyIGFjdGlvbiwgYSBnb29kIHN0b3J5IGxpbmUsIHNvbWUg dmVyeSB0ZW5zZSBzY2VuZXMsIGFuZCBJJ20gZ2xhZCBJIG93biB0aGUgbW92aWUgbm93Lg0KDQog ICAgSSB0aGluayBteSBmYXZvcml0ZSBsaW5lIGlzIGdvaW5nIHRvIGJlICJJIG5ldmVyIGdpdmUg cmlkZXMgdG8ga2lkcy0gYnV0IGZvciB5b3UgSSdsbCBtYWtlIGFuIGV4Y2VwdGlvbiIgKG9yIHdo YXRldmVyIGl0IGlzIGhlIHRlbGxzIHRoZSBraWQgaW4gdGhlIG9wZW5pbmcgcGllY2UpLiAgR29v ZCBtb3ZpZS4NCg0KICAgIE9zY2FyIFp1bmlnYQ0KICAgIEFpciBDYW1wZXIgTlg0MUNDDQogICAg U2FuIEFudG9uaW8sIFRYDQogICAgbWFpbHRvOiB0YWlsZHJhZ3NAaG90bWFpbC5jb20NCiAgICB3 ZWJzaXRlIGF0IGh0dHA6Ly93d3cuZmx5c3F1aXJyZWwubmV0DQogICAgaHR0cDovL3d3dy5tYXRu YnNwOyAgICAgdmlhIHRoZSBXZWIgdGl0bGU9aHR0cDovL2ZvcnVtcy5tYXRyb25pY3MuY29tLyBo cmVmPSJodHRwOi8vZm9ydW1zLm1hdHJvbmljcy5jb20iPmh0dHA6Ly9mb3J1bXMubWF0cm9uaWNz LmNvbQ0KX3A7ICAgICAgICAgZ2VuZXJvdXMgYnNwOyAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgdGl0bGU9 aHR0cDovL3d3dy5tYXRyb25pY3MuY29tL2NvbnRyaWJ1dGlvbiBocmVmPSJodHRwOi8vd3d3Lm1h dHJvbmljcy5jb20vY29udHJpYnV0aW9uIj5odHRwOi8vd3d3Lm1hdHJvbmljcy5jb20vYz09PT09 PT09PT09PT09PT09DQoNCg0KDQoNCg0KDQoNCg= ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:03:08 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol aerobatics From: amsafetyc@aol.com What would you have to do , change or strengthen while building to make it safer or more aerobatic friendly? John ------Original Message------ From: Michael Perez Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com ReplyTo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Jan 2, 2009 1:58 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol aerobatics Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:55:14 AM PST US From: Oscar Zuniga Subject: Pietenpol-List: Jim's Aerial Jim; Do you have the Tigre on the airplane after all? Sorry I have not made any more progress translating the shop manuals from Spanish for you but the airplane is looking nice and your wingtips turned out very smooth! Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:18:47 AM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol aerobatics Thanks Oscar. Not knowing much about this plane, I wondered what, if any, stunts may have been tried. ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:24:57 AM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol aerobatics First hand experience Pieti? You have done these things? Thanks for the rep ly. - ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 10:08:46 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Jim's Aerial From: "jimd" Oscar, I looked at other engines, but only as a plan "B". The Tigre only needs two more exhaust stacks, the oil pressure line finished, and a couple leads for the magnetos to appear finished. It is already mounted and safety wired in place, has the correct prop and spinner and so forth. Been oiling the cyclinders once in a while and keeping it from freezing up. I appreciate the work you have already done on the magneto manuals. My A&P tech advisor, told me to leave everything that is done as it is and move on, then if I don't like something revisit it, otherwise it may never get done. Think he had a point. Any other engine will cost a lot, need a different prop, motor mounts, cowling and reworking all the W&B adjustments that have already been made. So I plan on going forward with the Tigre. I think it looks great from the front and rear, just from the side it seems a bit long nosed. Will have to find some way to insure it is reasonably safe to fly before I take it up, but there is no immediate danger of it flying very soon. Jim Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=222604#222604 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 10:13:35 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Jim's Aerial From: "jimd" Others may have no idea what we are talking about.. my project is on; www.westcoastpiet.com under pictures, under Jim D. Jim Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=222606#222606 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 10:52:54 AM PST US From: "Peter W Johnson" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Tail wheel spring fitting Carson, I'm off to the airport today, I'll get a photo or two. Cheers Peter -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of carson Sent: Saturday, 3 January 2009 8:14 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Tail wheel spring fitting Hi all How have people that have used the leaf spring type tailwheel fitted it to the A/C? Does anyone have some close up pictures or drawings I am sure that I have seen some somewhere a while back but cant seem to find them. Thanks for any help Carson Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=222518#222518 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 11:49:47 AM PST US From: "Lagowski Morrow" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Happy New Year A very Happy New Year to all you builders and flyers from NX221PT. Hope to see you at Brodhead/Oshkosh this year.--Jim Lagowski ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 02:33:45 PM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol aerobatics If you really want to do safe aerobatics I'd change it to a biplane with a swept upper wing, a 180 hp Lycoming with an inverted fuel and oil system, a symmetrical airfoil and a constant speed prop. Seriously, if you want aerobatic, build something else, like a Pitts Special. I did aerobatics in my J-3 Cub years ago. When I recovered it, I found every rib in the elevators were bent. I haven't done anything other than wingovers in the Pietenpol. Jack Phillips NX899JP -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of amsafetyc@aol.com Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 10:03 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol aerobatics What would you have to do , change or strengthen while building to make it safer or more aerobatic friendly? John ------Original Message------ From: Michael Perez Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com ReplyTo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Jan 2, 2009 1:58 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol aerobatics Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 03:02:37 PM PST US From: Oscar Zuniga Subject: Pietenpol-List: NX221PT Jim; How much does that skullcap spinner add to your top speed? ;o) Very nice airplane!!! Oscar Zuniga San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 03:10:36 PM PST US From: "walt" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: The Great Waldo Pepper- 2009 Just got done with Waldo Pepper. Always thought it was a chuckle head movie by the title. The movie was top notch. How the heck did they do the in air shots? There were some discrepencies, like getting out of the cockpit with one set of clothes on, and then wing walking with a jump suit on. But all things considered,,,Great movie. PS If anyone emails me at my email. wbeevans@verizon.net And sends me their snail mail. I'll mail the DVD's to them. (sorry it's on 2 DVD's) Then you can send it to the next guy. walt evans NX140DL ----- Original Message ----- From: walt To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 7:31 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: The Great Waldo Pepper- 2009 My curiosity got to me. So last night I downloaded Waldo Pepper off the net. I'll watch it today. walt evans NX140DL do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: Gene Rambo To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 2:04 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: The Great Waldo Pepper- 2009 Might have to call you on that one Oscar, what time did you watch it????? About 10am here Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Oscar Zuniga To: Pietenpol List Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 10:06 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: The Great Waldo Pepper- 2009 I hereby lay claim to being the first Pietenpol list member to watch "The Great Waldo Pepper" in the new year of 2009. Actually, it was the first time I've ever seen the movie (I have it on VCR and now on DVD but had not viewed it since acquiring my own mint condition videotape). I expected a fairly lightweight film but it has EXCELLENT air action, a good story line, some very tense scenes, and I'm glad I own the movie now. I think my favorite line is going to be "I never give rides to kids- but for you I'll make an exception" (or whatever it is he tells the kid in the opening piece). Good movie. Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net http://www.matnbsp; via the Web title=http://forums.matronics.com/ href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com _p; generous bsp; title=http://www.matronics.com/contribution href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ================ href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.mat ronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 05:50:18 PM PST US From: Oscar Zuniga Subject: Pietenpol-List: The Great Waldo Pepper- 2009 Call me slow-witted=2C but besides "how the heck did they shoot those in-ai r shots?" one thing that puzzled me was everytime they would prop off a Jen ny=2C the engine would appear to start rotating in the direction opposite t o the prop start. Just an optical illusion=2C I guess. The other interesting thing was that part of it was shot in Texas. The wat er tower in Poth=2C Texas appears in the movie... and Poth is just east of San Antonio. That will be my last Waldo Pepper post for the year=2C I think =3Bo) I bel ieve I popped the DVD into my player right around 8PM on January 1st so I w ill have another bourbon & ginger ale in celebration of being the first vie wing of the new year... Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC San Antonio=2C TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 11:52:10 PM PST US From: "walt" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: The Great Waldo Pepper- 2009 Oscar, You are correct on the propping. I even "rewound" to see it again. He pulled it the wrong way onto the compression, then it flipped back and started. And they did it more than once throughout the movie Anyone know if this is a goof on the movies part, or an unusual way to start those Jenny engines? walt evans NX140DL ----- Original Message ----- From: Oscar Zuniga To: Pietenpol List Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 8:49 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: The Great Waldo Pepper- 2009 Call me slow-witted, but besides "how the heck did they shoot those in-air shots?" one thing that puzzled me was everytime they would prop off a Jenny, the engine would appear to start rotating in the direction opposite to the prop start. Just an optical illusion, I guess. The other interesting thing was that part of it was shot in Texas. The water tower in Poth, Texas appears in the movie... and Poth is just east of San Antonio. That will be my last Waldo Pepper post for the year, I think ;o) I believe I popped the DVD into my player right around 8PM on January 1st so I will have another bourbon & ginger ale in celebration of being the first viewing of the new year... Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.