Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Wed 01/14/09


Total Messages Posted: 6



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     1. 08:56 AM - Re: Re: Wing construction OT (Allan Macklem)
     2. 09:44 AM - Ford Model T assembly video (Oscar Zuniga)
     3. 09:46 AM - Re: Re: Re: Sun n Fun (Jim)
     4. 10:38 AM - Re: Pietenpol aerobatics (John Fay)
     5. 02:16 PM - Re: warning placard (Don Emch)
     6. 02:31 PM - Re: Sun n Fun (Dale Johnson)
 
 
 


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    Time: 08:56:01 AM PST US
    From: "Allan Macklem" <awmacklem@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Wing construction OT
    Steve, it wasn't so much that the cabins faced the land. It was more important that they faced away from the sun and were therefore more comfortable. (No AC in those days.)


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    Time: 09:44:35 AM PST US
    From: Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Ford Model T assembly video
    This 5 minute video might be of interest to those using the Ford engine in their Piets (the "A"=2C not the "T")=2C but the off-road driving sequenc es at the end of the video are worth watching=2C too. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4KrIMZpwCY Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC=2C Cont. A65 powered San Antonio=2C TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net


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    Time: 09:46:30 AM PST US
    From: Jim <jimboyer@hughes.net>
    Subject: Re: Sun n Fun
    Dick the Volmer looks good. I saw one up here at Clear Lake in Northern CA a few years ago. Always seemed like a neat thing to do. My home in South Dakota is right on Lake Kampeska on the edge of Watertown. During world war II the military had a couple of rescue boats stationed in the lake as the NW/SE runway ended almost at the lake edge and the military did aircraft mods at Watertown before flying the planes to Russia under the Lend/Lease program. Being only about twenty miles from the Minnesota border always thought and amphib would be a lot of fun. Got to go work on my Piets engine. Going to CC #13 this weekend and want to have more done first. Just have to put on the heads, front cover and rear oil housing. Have the Piet landing gear almost ready to weld and the tubing for the engine mount. Cheers, Jim On Jan 13, 2009, horzpool@goldengate.net wrote: Jim The Volmer is well along. There aren't any more small parts to build. I might trailer it to show off but not sure at this point. See the attached pic 2yrs into building. Landing gear is on the welding table. See one wing in background, other is out of view ( one right and one left). Canopy assy is done. Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim" <jimboyer@hughes.net> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 9:37 PM Subject: Re: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sun n Fun So Dick does that mean you have finished the Volmer Amphibian (sp)? How about an Super Emmeraude? Beautiful low wing two place side by side. Jim On Jan 13, 2009, horzpool@goldengate.net wrote: Jack The Falco looks like a mighty nice plane. That would be a great project. You know many of the crew down there. Let me know if that is something you would like to do. Dick N. ----- Original Message ----- From: Phillips, Jack To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 12:47 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Sun n Fun Id like to start a Falco Jack Phillips From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dick N. Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 1:34 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sun n Fun It's time to start thinking about spring. Does anyone want to jump start a project? We are looking for a project for the Wood Forum at Sun n Fun. You could bring materials and drive away with a completed basic fuselage or a set of wings, one left and one right at the end of the show. Let me know if you would like to discuss further how to take the next step. There are several of us from the list who participate and help. Dick N. http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-Listhttp://forums.matronics.comhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution _________________________________________________ or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender Dansk - Deutsch - Espanol - Francais - Italiano - Japanese - Nederlands - Norsk - Portuguese href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c


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    Time: 10:38:26 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Pietenpol aerobatics
    From: John Fay <jfay1950@gmail.com>
    This first email has some interesting facts about the fin attachment, and the second has some worthwhile comments about airobatics. This summer is the 80th anniversary of the Pietenpol, and there are some big things planned for Brodhead and OSH. John On 1/2/09, Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > Mike asked- > > >anyone here ever do "aerobatics" of some sort with their plane? > > I have not. I was keen to practice spins and spin recovery in 41CC > but my instructor, who is proficient at aerobatics, felt that the > airplane might not have as much rudder as he'd like so we didn't try > spins. > > >things like hammer heads and tail slides > > Hammerheads, I wouldn't think would be an issue at all. Tail slides- > yikes! I'd be very hesitant to try that. The iffy part of it is > that a hammerhead can result in a tail-slide if the rudder break is > not performed in time, and either one can result in a spin if not > performed right. I'm not saying the Piet is impossible to spin and > recover from, I'm just saying I haven't demonstrated spins in mine. > > Yet. > > By the way, thinking about the tail surfaces, in the recent discussion > about the L-brackets that mount the vertical stabilizer to the > fuselage and horizontal stabilizers, someone mentioned that the only > force that the through-bolts would see is an upward pull as drag > pulls the stabilizer aft. I disagree, having looked back at the tail > in flight often enough to know that those surfaces see quite a bit of > buffetting from propeller slipstream and turbulence. In addition, > in a slip I would think that the surfaces would see some sidewise > forces as well. At any rate, I agree that a wooden block between the > gussets would do nicely to fix the little misalignment of the spars > and provide a good grip for the L-brackets. > > I would also agree with putting in some offset (or the ability to > do so if needed later). My airplane has a fixed tab on the rudder and > could use just a skosh more... but a fixed offset in the vertical > stabilizer leading edge would take care of that. > > Oscar Zuniga > Air Camper NX41CC > San Antonio, TX > mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com > website at http://www.flysquirrel.net > >


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    Time: 02:16:41 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: warning placard
    From: "Don Emch" <EmchAir@aol.com>
    Just the front. Don't confuse the passenger warning label with the EXPERIMENTAL label. 'NX' just gets rid of the ugly big one on the side of the cockpit. The black rub-on passenger warning from Aircraft Spruce blends nicely with the front mahogany panel... not that I'm trying to hide that or anything.... Don Emch NX899DE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=224776#224776


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    Time: 02:31:32 PM PST US
    From: "Dale Johnson" <ddjohn@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Sun n Fun
    Dick I have a new project . A group of old guyes are building or rebuilding a CG4 Glider. That has a 70+ foot wing span. Is that to big for the shop. I'am building ribs lile crazy. Dale ----- Original Message ----- From: Dick N. Sent: 1/14/2009 12:06:10 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sun n Fun Too bad Jack. That Falco looks nice. I know what you mean about the wife situation. I'm trying not to be tempted to start a 4th plane at this point. Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: Jack Phillips Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 5:16 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Sun n Fun Just kidding, Dick. Id love to build a Falco, but I need to finish the RV-10 first. I think Karen would kill me if I started another project. Jack From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dick N. Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 4:47 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sun n Fun Jack The Falco looks like a mighty nice plane. That would be a great project. You know many of the crew down there. Let me know if that is something you would like to do. Dick N. ----- Original Message ----- From: Phillips, Jack Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 12:47 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Sun n Fun Id like to start a Falco Jack Phillips From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dick N. Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 1:34 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sun n Fun It's time to start thinking about spring. Does anyone want to jump start a project? We are looking for a project for the Wood Forum at Sun n Fun. You could bring materials and drive away with a completed basic fuselage or a set of wings, one left and one right at the end of the show. Let me know if you would like to discuss further how to take the next step. There are several of us from the list who participate and help. Dick N. http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution _________________________________________________ or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender Dansk - Deutsch - Espanol - Francais - Italiano - Japanese - Nederlands - Norsk - Portuguese href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c




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