---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 01/17/09: 11 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:59 AM - Interesting thing about yesterdays Hudson River landing (walt) 2. 10:52 AM - Re: I know what a wing looks like (jimbir) 3. 02:13 PM - Re: Wing construction OT (Mild Bill) 4. 04:34 PM - Re: Thoughts on a lazy Sunday afternooon (Mild Bill) 5. 04:45 PM - Re: Piet Ultralight? (Mild Bill) 6. 06:47 PM - Re: Re: Wing construction OT (Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB) 7. 07:28 PM - Re: off-topic: Fairchild 51 (Mild Bill) 8. 08:20 PM - Re: Made a mistake (Mild Bill) 9. 08:34 PM - Re: Re: off-topic: Fairchild 51 (Clif Dawson) 10. 09:27 PM - Re: off-topic: Fairchild 51 (Mild Bill) 11. 09:34 PM - Re: Wing construction OT (Mild Bill) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:59:46 AM PST US From: "walt" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Interesting thing about yesterdays Hudson River landing First of all, I passed over GW bridge a couple of hours before he flew over. Go here for an interesting concept on water ditching. http://www.popularmechanics.com/blogs/science_news/4299756.html I never knew this, but very interesting. Off topic, I know but good for a morning of Minus 10 degs. Do not archive walt evans NX140DL ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 10:52:11 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: I know what a wing looks like From: "jimbir" Hi. I am assembling an air camper at the Ira G. Ross Aerospace museum. much of the work was completed by a gentleman who passed away several years ago. It is of the three piece wing design. From your description I assume yours is also. I have the front and rear spars of the left hand wing attached to the center section. While laying out the positions of the ribs, I found an interference of 3/8" between the flying strut attachment on the spars and Rib #8. The interference occurs where the attachment crosses over the top of the spar. I'm wondering if you found the same thing on your wing and what you did about it. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=225328#225328 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 02:13:47 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing construction OT From: "Mild Bill" > Word History: "Oh yes, Mater, we had a posh time of it down there." So in Punch for September 25, 1918, do we find the first recorded instance posh, meaning "smart and fashionable." A popular theory holds that it is derived from the initials of "Port Out, Starboard Home," the cooler, and thus more expensive, side of ships traveling between England and India in the mid-19th century. The acronym POSH was supposedly stamped on the tickets of first-class passengers traveling on that side of ships owned by the Peninsular and Oriental Steam Navigation Company. No known evidence supports this theory, however. Another word posh was 19th- and early 20th-century British slang for "money," specifically "a halfpenny, cash of small value." This word is borrowed from the Romany word ph, "half," which was used in combinations such as phera, "halfpenny." Posh, also meaning "a dandy," is recorded in two dictionaries of slang, published in 1890 and 1902, although this particular posh may be still another word. This word or these words are, however, much more likely to be the source of posh than "Port Out, Starboard Home," although the latter source certainly has caught the public's etymological fancy. >From http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/posh Also see http://tafkac.org/language/etymology/posh_etymology_of.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_Out,_Starboard_Home -------- Bill Frank Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=225359#225359 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 04:34:11 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Thoughts on a lazy Sunday afternooon From: "Mild Bill" lnawms(at)yahoo.com wrote: > 1. Simplificate and add lightness. "Simplificate?" Reminds me of the old admonition, "Eschew obfuscation!" Here's one to add to the list: "Cogito cogitas, ergo cogito sum." ("I think I think, therefore I think I am.") -------- Bill Frank Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=225387#225387 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 04:45:50 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Piet Ultralight? From: "Mild Bill" While that auction was still active, I sent the seller an email wondering how the plane could make the ultralight weight limit with a full VW engine. His response was real brief: "Read the listing." The first two sentences of the description do in fact state what is going on: "This craft started life as a Roger Mann designed Pietenpol Aircamper Ultralight. But now falls under experimental catogory." Well and good, but the title still misleading to have the titl -------- Bill Frank Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=225388#225388 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:47:06 PM PST US From: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing construction OT OK Bill, I bow to the master word geek. I myself am only an amature geek who likes shiney things in the sun. But I had no Idea that Mater from the Cars movie was around in 1918. Blue Skies, Steve D ----- Original Message ----- From: Mild Bill Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing construction OT > > > > Word History: "Oh yes, Mater, we had a posh time of it down there." So in Punch for September 25, 1918, do we find the first recorded > instance posh, meaning "smart and fashionable." A popular theory > holds that it is derived from the initials of "Port Out, Starboard > Home," the cooler, and thus more expensive, side of ships > traveling between England and India in the mid-19th century. The > acronym POSH was supposedly stamped on the tickets of first-class > passengers traveling on that side of ships owned by the Peninsular > and Oriental Steam Navigation Company. No known evidence supports > this theory, however. Another word posh was 19th- and early 20th- > century British slang for "money," specifically "a halfpenny, cash > of small value." This word is borrowed from the Romany word > ph, "half," which was used in combinations such as phera, > "halfpenny." Posh, also meaning "a dandy," is recorded in two > dictionaries of slang, published in 1890 and 1902, although this > particular pos! > h may be still another word. This word or these words are, > however, much more likely to be the source of posh than "Port Out, > Starboard Home," although the latter source certainly has caught > the public's etymological fancy. > > >From http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/posh > > Also see > http://tafkac.org/language/etymology/posh_etymology_of.html > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_Out,_Starboard_Home > > -------- > Bill Frank > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=225359#225359 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:28:11 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: off-topic: Fairchild 51 From: "Mild Bill" Link didn't work for me. I brought up the main page for the site and searched for Fairchild 51 but most of the aircraft shots were of an A-10 in formation with a P-51, none of the very few other Fairchild planes was a 51. -------- Bill Frank Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=225410#225410 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:20:15 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Made a mistake From: "Mild Bill" Jack - why not add a trim tab? -------- Bill Frank Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=225419#225419 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:34:58 PM PST US From: "Clif Dawson" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: off-topic: Fairchild 51 Here's a couple of shots http://1000aircraftphotos.com/Fairchild/4535.htm http://vilda.alaska.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/cdmg11&CISOPTR'25&REC=6 Clif Warren Buffet "Only when the tide goes out do you discover who's been swimming naked." > > I brought up the main page for the site and searched for Fairchild 51 but > most of the aircraft shots were of an A-10 in formation with a P-51, none > of the very few other Fairchild planes was a 51. > > -------- > Bill Frank ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 09:27:57 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: off-topic: Fairchild 51 From: "Mild Bill" Sweet. I always liked that design. The earliest of the 51's ancestors was the FC-1, originally powered by a Curtiss OX-5: http://1000aircraftphotos.com/Fairchild/4444.htm http://www.robertsuomala.com/3.html It would seem possible to design a scaled down FC-1 powered with a Ford Model A engine.... -------- Bill Frank Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=225428#225428 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 09:34:31 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing construction OT From: "Mild Bill" I loved Cars but missed the part about Mater being around in 1918. Was that from one of the Carstoon shorts that they've been showing before feature films of late? Mater's stories in the two I've seen were so preposterous I just about fell out of my chair from laughing. -------- Bill Frank Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=225429#225429 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.