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1. 08:32 AM - Re: Piet News Letter Photo (Catdesigns)
2. 09:01 AM - Re: Re: Piet News Letter Photo (Dave Abramson)
3. 09:38 AM - Re: Re: Piet News Letter Photo (Bill Church)
4. 01:44 PM - Re: Re: Piet News Letter Photo (amsafetyc@aol.com)
5. 02:03 PM - Brodhead and OSH (Don Emch)
6. 02:25 PM - Re: Brodhead and OSH (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC])
7. 03:21 PM - Re: Brodhead and OSH (Jack Phillips)
8. 04:14 PM - Experimenter & Piet Photos (Tim Verthein)
9. 04:27 PM - Re: Brodhead and OSH (airlion@bellsouth.net)
10. 05:20 PM - Re: Brodhead and OSH (Lagowski Morrow)
11. 05:40 PM - Re: Brodhead and OSH (dog67)
12. 06:01 PM - Re: Brodhead and OSH (Roy Brooks)
13. 06:14 PM - Re: Brodhead and OSH (Jeff Boatright)
14. 07:04 PM - Re: Brodhead and OSH (gcardinal)
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| Subject: | Re: Piet News Letter Photo |
The picture of Ted Davis's plane I believe was taken by Bill Church. Sorry for
all the confusion. I will Email Doc and let him know where the credit should
go.
As for the website, the vast majority of the photos on WestCostPiet.com were not
taken by me because I have only seen two completed and three under construction
Pietenpols (including my own) in my life time. I have never seen one fly.
Sad I know but I cant get Mike Cuy to fly his over the Sierras so I can see one
fly. I know there are a few Pietenpols here in California but I guess they have
to keep them hidden from all the RV and Fast Glass owners.
A lot of the early photos I got off the internet. Since then I have been given
photos by a few other sources, such as Bill. I didn't anticipate others using
them in published documents so I never thought about trying to add credit for
the photographer. They were used only to help me build. Prior to the website
I used to send people copies on CD but found it cheaper in the long run to put
them on a web page. In the future I will try to add a photographer name to
the photos if I can find a easy way to do it.
Speaking of photos, we need more construction photos on the site. If some of you
builders could send me some pictures, I would really appreciate it. You can
remain anonymous or go by a code name if you want.
Chris
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Chris Tracy
Sacramento, CA
WestCoastPiet.com
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| Subject: | Re: Piet News Letter Photo |
Hi Chris!
I am building my Pietenpol at Santa Maria Airport! There are a couple at
San Luis Obispo, and one at Lompoc.
If you are ever in in the area you can check out mine!
Cheers!
Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
Catdesigns
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 8:32 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Piet News Letter Photo
The picture of Ted Davis's plane I believe was taken by Bill Church. Sorry
for all the confusion. I will Email Doc and let him know where the credit
should go.
As for the website, the vast majority of the photos on WestCostPiet.com were
not taken by me because I have only seen two completed and three under
construction Pietenpols (including my own) in my life time. I have never
seen one fly. Sad I know but I cant get Mike Cuy to fly his over the Sierras
so I can see one fly. I know there are a few Pietenpols here in California
but I guess they have to keep them hidden from all the RV and Fast Glass
owners.
A lot of the early photos I got off the internet. Since then I have been
given photos by a few other sources, such as Bill. I didn't anticipate
others using them in published documents so I never thought about trying to
add credit for the photographer. They were used only to help me build.
Prior to the website I used to send people copies on CD but found it cheaper
in the long run to put them on a web page. In the future I will try to add
a photographer name to the photos if I can find a easy way to do it.
Speaking of photos, we need more construction photos on the site. If some
of you builders could send me some pictures, I would really appreciate it.
You can remain anonymous or go by a code name if you want.
Chris
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Chris Tracy
Sacramento, CA
WestCoastPiet.com
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| Subject: | Re: Piet News Letter Photo |
Chris,
Yes, the latest BPA newsletter cover shot of Ted Davis' plane is one that I
shot. But don't worry (I don't) about who gets credit. I say the credit
should go to yourself, for hosting such an extremely helpful (and often
referred to) website , and to the Moshers for all the work Doc and Dee do
putting together a great little newsletter four times a year for barely
enough money to get the thing printed and mailed (always on schedule, too).
Somehow my photos have ended up on the cover of the last two issues of the
newsletter.
As for my own exposure to actual living Pietenpols, other than the
Pietenpol-shaped bits of wood out in my garage, I have only actually seen
one that was located outside of the annual Brodhead or Brussels Pietenpol
gatherings. Of course, whenever I am around a Piet, I do tend to take a lot
of photos. And I don't mind sharing them with anyone that wants to see them.
Your site makes sharing them a lot easier.
But seriously, Chris. you gotta get to Brodhead. You wouldn't believe what a
motivation booster it is.
Bill C.
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| Subject: | Re: Piet News Letter Photo |
Dave
Is that an open invitation? I am not really certain where those areas are however
Ill be in Ontario,Fontana,City of Industry the week of Jan 26 and would enjoy
looking at Piets in progress. Even at the risk of inviting myself.
The unbridled avarice of Pietenpol mania knows no shame or humility.
John
------Original Message------
From: Dave Abramson
Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
ReplyTo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Jan 22, 2009 11:56 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Piet News Letter Photo
Hi Chris!
I am building my Pietenpol at Santa Maria Airport! There are a couple at
San Luis Obispo, and one at Lompoc.
If you are ever in in the area you can check out mine!
Cheers!
Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
Catdesigns
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 8:32 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Piet News Letter Photo
The picture of Ted Davis's plane I believe was taken by Bill Church. Sorry
for all the confusion. I will Email Doc and let him know where the credit
should go.
As for the website, the vast majority of the photos on WestCostPiet.com were
not taken by me because I have only seen two completed and three under
construction Pietenpols (including my own) in my life time. I have never
seen one fly. Sad I know but I cant get Mike Cuy to fly his over the Sierras
so I can see one fly. I know there are a few Pietenpols here in California
but I guess they have to keep them hidden from all the RV and Fast Glass
owners.
A lot of the early photos I got off the internet. Since then I have been
given photos by a few other sources, such as Bill. I didn't anticipate
others using them in published documents so I never thought about trying to
add credit for the photographer. They were used only to help me build.
Prior to the website I used to send people copies on CD but found it cheaper
in the long run to put them on a web page. In the future I will try to add
a photographer name to the photos if I can find a easy way to do it.
Speaking of photos, we need more construction photos on the site. If some
of you builders could send me some pictures, I would really appreciate it.
You can remain anonymous or go by a code name if you want.
Chris
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Chris Tracy
Sacramento, CA
WestCoastPiet.com
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| Subject: | Brodhead and OSH |
Shad brought up the Brodhead and OSH trip for this year. How many of the list
guys are thinking they might try to fly their Piets in? Shad I see you are hoping
to at least get there for Sunday and Monday. I'm thinking maybe the same
thing. Try to fly up to Brodhead on Thursday. Head to Oshkosh with the group
on Sunday morning and probably try to escape the madness on Tuesday. If those
plans sound similar to yours, Shad, maybe we could fly together. Always seems
to be more fun with a wingman!
Heading to the hangar tonight to rig up the skis. Can't wait :D
Don Emch
NX899DE
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| Subject: | Brodhead and OSH |
Don, Shad, group,
Lord willing I hope to fly up to Brodhead on Thursday then onto Oshkosh
Sunday. Bill Rewey's
notes in the newsletter suggested taking off in groups of five with one
radio guy to call
via phone from a closer airport to use the NORDO approach into Oshkosh
but the last time or
two I went into Oshkosh I just used a handheld and went via the Ripon
approach and it worked
just fine. (though I had to keep it firewalled all the way to the
runway so as to not get run
over by faster traffic) I was just thinking of doing the standard Ripon
approach whenever I
get there on Sunday...weather permitting obviously. NORDO arrivals are
notoriously assigned
to the twin N-S runways and if there is a big crosswind that can be a
behinder so I guess
I'll put my finger to the wind at Brodhead on Sunday and maybe call the
tower from there
and see what runway they are using for NORDO aircraft. Sounds like they
are working w/ EAA
to see if the tailskid guys can use grass along side the N-S runways. I
know Frank Pavliga
has landed in the grass a few times long ago in Sky Gypsy but we'll have
to wait-n-see what
EAA says about it I suspect.
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Brodhead and OSH |
I'm hoping to make it. Just depends on whether we've sold the house by then
and started moving to Virginia. My wife is about to have a cow, with me
talking about flying to Brodhead yet again (she doesn't like me to fly over
the mountains - don't know why, haven't hit a mountain yet).
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don Emch
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 5:01 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead and OSH
Shad brought up the Brodhead and OSH trip for this year. How many of the
list guys are thinking they might try to fly their Piets in? Shad I see you
are hoping to at least get there for Sunday and Monday. I'm thinking maybe
the same thing. Try to fly up to Brodhead on Thursday. Head to Oshkosh
with the group on Sunday morning and probably try to escape the madness on
Tuesday. If those plans sound similar to yours, Shad, maybe we could fly
together. Always seems to be more fun with a wingman!
Heading to the hangar tonight to rig up the skis. Can't wait :D
Don Emch
NX899DE
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| Subject: | Experimenter & Piet Photos |
Just a couple observations:
someone wrote (I don't remember who)
"I would encourage everyone to check it out, become a free subscriber (even
if not an EAA member) and to take the survey found at the very bottom of the page.
This eNewsletter is aimed at the true homebuilder, (I hate to use the grass
-roots clich=E9, but it's accurate) which is you guys."
According to the opening of the Experimenter page, this is a FREE "member benefit"
so to subscribe, you must have to be a member of the EAA.
Also, reference to photos from West Coast Piet. Indeed a great resource for tons
of photos, however I would venture to state that most of the photos are contributed
by others, and posted on the site. So if photos are sourced from the
site, the credit should go to the photographer I would imagine, not the site,
although the site is a great resource for a ton of photos and I wouldn't want
the job of keeping that all organized! I note that the original photographer
does not seem to be credited on the site. I know because there are a hundred
or so of my photos from Broadhead 2007 there, which is fine with me (I sent them
to Chris myself) and I know that keeping track of all those pictures and planes
is a huge undertaking, but it *would* be nice if when other publications,
etc get photos from the site that the photographer would get some credit. In
a perfect set up, each photo would have the plane info, plane owner, and photographers
credit with it.
Publications, webmasters, and others should not assume that all the photos are
owned by Chris or the site. It's more like an archive of peoples work.
Tim in Bovey
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| Subject: | Brodhead and OSH |
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| Subject: | Re: Brodhead and OSH |
I hope to make it to both Brodhead and OSH, my wife's health permitting the
absence--Jim Lagowski in N.W. Michigan
Do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Emch" <EmchAir@aol.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 5:01 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead and OSH
>
> Shad brought up the Brodhead and OSH trip for this year. How many of the
> list guys are thinking they might try to fly their Piets in? Shad I see
> you are hoping to at least get there for Sunday and Monday. I'm thinking
> maybe the same thing. Try to fly up to Brodhead on Thursday. Head to
> Oshkosh with the group on Sunday morning and probably try to escape the
> madness on Tuesday. If those plans sound similar to yours, Shad, maybe we
> could fly together. Always seems to be more fun with a wingman!
>
> Heading to the hangar tonight to rig up the skis. Can't wait :D
>
> Don Emch
> NX899DE
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=226233#226233
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Brodhead and OSH |
I'll be at Osh and Brodhead, although with a 'plastic; airplane
Jon Apfelbaum
On Jan 22, 2009, at 6:15:23 PM, "Lagowski Morrow" <jimdeb@charter.net> wrote
:
From: "Lagowski Morrow" <jimdeb@charter.net>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead and OSH
I hope to make it to both Brodhead and OSH, my wife's health permitting the
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absence--Jim Lagowski in N.W. Michigan
Do not archive
----- Original Message ------
From: "Don Emch" <EmchAir@aol.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 5:01 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead and OSH
>
> Shad brought up the Brodhead and OSH trip for this year. How many of the
-
> list guys are thinking they might try to fly their Piets in? Shad I see
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> you are hoping to at least get there for Sunday and Monday. I'm thinking
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> maybe the same thing. Try to fly up to Brodhead on Thursday. Head to-
> Oshkosh with the group on Sunday morning and probably try to escape the
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> madness on Tuesday. If those plans sound similar to yours, Shad, maybe we
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> could fly together. Always seems to be more fun with a wingman!
>
> Heading to the hangar tonight to rig up the skis. Can't wait :D
>
> Don Emch
> NX899DE
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=226233#226233
>
>
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| Subject: | Brodhead and OSH |
I hope to attend the Brodhead only event in the Texas Aerospace Commission
Van (30 feet tall) if gas isn't $4.00 per gallon. The van gets 7 MPG and it
's a LONG way to drive to Brodhead.
Here is a link to the Texas Aerospace Commission Van when I was at Salton S
ea=2C California last year for a fly-in. The van appears in the first 10 se
conds of the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKA20XtRD9I
I look forward to seeing Mike Cuy=2C Chuck Gantzer=2C Oscar (if he is hombr
e enough to fly that far) and other fellow TACOs.
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead and OSH
From: dog67@aol.com
I'll be at Osh and Brodhead=2C although with a 'plastic=3B airplaneJon Apfe
lbaum
On Jan 22=2C 2009=2C at 6:15:23 PM=2C "Lagowski Morrow" <jimdeb@charter.net
> wrote:
From:"Lagowski Morrow" <jimdeb@charter.net>Subject:Re: Pietenpol-List: Brod
head and OSHDate:January 22=2C 2009 6:15:23 PM MSTTo:pietenpol-list@matroni
er.net>
I hope to make it to both Brodhead and OSH=2C my wife's health permitting t
he
absence--Jim Lagowski in N.W. Michigan
Do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Emch" <EmchAir@aol.com>
Sent: Thursday=2C January 22=2C 2009 5:01 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead and OSH
>
> Shad brought up the Brodhead and OSH trip for this year. How many of the
> list guys are thinking they might try to fly their Piets in? Shad I see
> you are hoping to at least get there for Sunday and Monday. I'm thinking
> maybe the same thing. Try to fly up to Brodhead on Thursday. Head to
> Oshkosh with the group on Sunday morning and probably try to escape the
> madness on Tuesday. If those plans sound similar to yours=2C Shad=2C mayb
e we
> could fly together. Always seems to be more fun with a wingman!
>
> Heading to the hangar tonight to rig up the skis. Can't wait :D
>
> Don Emch
> NX899DE
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=226233#226233
>
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| Subject: | Re: Brodhead and OSH |
We plan to fly the Piet up from the Atlanta area. Probably fly west
to Moontown, AL, then more-or-less north from there. Hope to fly on
to OSH, too, and spend a couple of days.
Jeff
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| Subject: | Re: Brodhead and OSH |
NX18235 is a "YES" for Brodhead and "MAYBE" for OSH. I need grass with my
tailskid and OSH has no plans yet to make grass available.
Greg Cardinal
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Emch" <EmchAir@aol.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 4:01 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead and OSH
>
> Shad brought up the Brodhead and OSH trip for this year. How many of the
> list guys are thinking they might try to fly their Piets in? Shad I see
> you are hoping to at least get there for Sunday and Monday. I'm thinking
> maybe the same thing. Try to fly up to Brodhead on Thursday. Head to
> Oshkosh with the group on Sunday morning and probably try to escape the
> madness on Tuesday. If those plans sound similar to yours, Shad, maybe we
> could fly together. Always seems to be more fun with a wingman!
>
> Heading to the hangar tonight to rig up the skis. Can't wait :D
>
> Don Emch
> NX899DE
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=226233#226233
>
>
>
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