---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 01/28/09: 2 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:29 AM - Re: 0-200 powered Piets--- N57TL Tim Mickel ? (Clif Dawson) 2. 09:45 AM - Re: 0-200, and weight (shad bell) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:29:35 AM PST US From: "Clif Dawson" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 0-200 powered Piets--- N57TL Tim Mickel ? The A is 244 lb according to the F+G manual. Add 15 lb for rad and then water on top of that ( 12lb? ). An O-235 weighs 243 to 255 depending on model. No rad or water either. The O-200 is 170 or so without accessories. Since the engine weighs no more than the A package the extra weight has to be somewhere else. There's many examples of "Complexify and add weightlyness." out there, aren't there. http://www.airweb.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgMakeModel.nsf /0/7a1a026b6c5974c58525670e00506f91/$FILE/E-223.pdf ----- Original Message ----- From: Dick N. To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 8:52 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 0-200 powered Piets--- N57TL Tim Mickel ? I remember looking at the specs on that plane. They empty weight on it was either 810 or 820 lbs. Dick N. ----- Original Message ----- From: Roy Brooks To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 9:27 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: 0-200 powered Piets--- N57TL Tim Mickel ? I wonder how much extra weight the 0-200 adds over the "A" series engine? Also, looks like a metal prop? And last, does anybody have performance info in regard to cruise, take-off distance? Looks very nice to me. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- From: Michael.D.Cuy@nasa.gov To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 07:23:55 -0600 Subject: Pietenpol-List: 0-200 powered Piets--- N57TL Tim Mickel ? Guys, Is this one with the full-electrics an 0-200 ? http://www.westcoastpiet.com/n57tl.htm I am looking for motor mount length changes and CG considerations for this configuration. There are twins of this example that attend Brodhead and sometimes Oshkosh as many of you know. If these planes are 0-200 powered and you have e-mail or other contact info for the builders I would greatly appreciate it. Mike C. in Ohio ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Hotmail=AE goes where you go. On a PC, on the Web, on your phone. See how. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com 1/27/2009 6:15 PM ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:45:12 AM PST US From: shad bell Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: 0-200, and weight Mike, If I remember correctly, the 0-200 without electrics weighs about 20- 30lbs less than a corvair with electrics.- Dad thought about putting a 0- 200 on his piet, that we got from my grandfather, he had it for the cassutt project, and researched the weights of the Corvair vs 0-200.- The main p art of the weight is all the extra "stuff" people want to run with the gene rator/alt.- I believe our corvair instalation is 240# or so and that is w ith a pretty good sized battery, and 2 sets of ignition coils.- Electric start is nice but does add some weight.- Empty weight of 92GB is 732lbs. - I think the heviest I ever flew her was at 1250lbs.- It is not fun to fly at that weight, and does take some extra power to keep altitude, and I don't fly that heavy unless it is dead calm and I amjust giving a local ri de.- - Keep your head out of the snow, Shad P.S.- Check out flycorvair.com , Wynne has some weight/power comparisons of 0-200vs Corvair. 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