---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 01/30/09: 15 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:19 AM - Re: Alternative epoxy varnish (Clif Dawson) 2. 04:50 AM - Re: epoxy varnish, Non standard practice (Michael Perez) 3. 05:36 AM - Re: Alternative epoxy varnish (Ryan Mueller) 4. 05:45 AM - Re: epoxy varnish, Non standard practice (Phillips, Jack) 5. 06:54 AM - Re: Alternative epoxy varnish (amsafetyc@aol.com) 6. 07:32 AM - Re: epoxy varnish, Non standard practice (Michael Silvius) 7. 11:06 AM - Newbie (Mark Baxter) 8. 01:04 PM - Re: Newbie (Gary Boothe) 9. 02:16 PM - Re: Newbie (CHRISTINE BAXTER) 10. 03:32 PM - Re: Alternative epoxy varnish (Frank Metcalfe) 11. 04:55 PM - Experimenter is FREE!! (Patrick Panzera) 12. 05:49 PM - Re: Alternative epoxy varnish (Gardiner Mason) 13. 06:22 PM - Re: Newbie (Dick N.) 14. 09:18 PM - Re: Newbie (CHRISTINE BAXTER) 15. 09:50 PM - Re: Newbie () ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:19:59 AM PST US From: "Clif Dawson" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Alternative epoxy varnish a possible solution that could even be used over already existing varnish where necessary. http://www.systemthree.com/p_clear_coat.asp Clif "Due to the shortage of experienced trumpet players doomsday will be postponed for 3 weeks" I had half a quart kit left over. Since then we have had to peel the fabric off the fuselage, and the epoxy coated varnished wood did not lift or suffer any damage. Much cheaper than either Epoxy everywhere or thinning T-88. > > Steve e. > > > I used standard varnish on all my parts, the rolled on poly fiber epoxy > onto just the areas where the fabric would touch. > > > Steve Eldredge > - Sent from mobile device - ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:50:24 AM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: epoxy varnish, Non standard practice I'm with you Chad. Although I have no current knowledge on covering yet, I am curious to know what is out there and what people know about the differe nt methods.- - - ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:36:01 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Alternative epoxy varnish From: Ryan Mueller Shad, What about using Pliobond as your "varnish"? Here are a few quotes from the technical data sheet that I found for Pliobond: "Substrates bonded with Pliobond offer excellent resistance to mechanical shock, oxidization, fungi, mold, and bacteria." "Pliobond 20 adhesive can be used as a sealer, primer, water repellent, or coater for metal, wood, plastic" and numerous other surfaces. One of the specific applications listed is "protecting above-water surfaces on watercraft". Finally, it says it can be sprayed, rolled, knife coated, or brushed (and I think I saw mention elsewhere that you use MEK to thin as needed). I have no first hand knowledge that this would work, but the properties listed on the data sheet would seem to be in line with what a varnish provides. Just a thought.... Ryan On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 2:04 AM, Clif Dawson wrote: > > a possible solution that could even be used over > already existing varnish where necessary. > > http://www.systemthree.com/p_clear_coat.asp > > Clif > > "Due to the shortage of experienced trumpet players doomsday will be > postponed for 3 weeks" > > > I had half a quart kit left over. Since then we have had to peel the > fabric off the fuselage, and the epoxy coated varnished wood did not lift or > suffer any damage. Much cheaper than either Epoxy everywhere or thinning > T-88. > >> >> Steve e. >> >> >> I used standard varnish on all my parts, the rolled on poly fiber epoxy >> onto just the areas where the fabric would touch. > >> >> Steve Eldredge >> - Sent from mobile device - >> > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:45:25 AM PST US Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: epoxy varnish, Non standard practice From: "Phillips, Jack" Shad, if all that is holding the fabric on is glue, I would certainly not hesitate to use the best epoxy varnish possible. I used the Stits epoxy varnish on my Pietenpol and probably didn't use more than $150 worth on the whole plane. That is a cheap price to pay for peace of mind. Just remember that Steve Wittman was killed by unribstitched fabric delaminating and causing aileron flutter. This is NOT the place to scrimp on quality. Jack Phillips NX899JP Raleigh, NC _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of shad bell Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 10:03 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: epoxy varnish, Non standard practice The main reason I need a really good adheasion of the epoxy varnish is this; The airplane I am building does NOT use rib stitching. It uses 1.25in wide ply capstrips and glue to hold the fabric to the wings.(prototype tested to 200mph) It HAS been successful in the past for this design with no known failures of the fabric peeling from the wings. The cement used has been Good Year Pliobond brushed on to the capstrips, let dry, then put fabric on, shrink and soak rib cap areas with mek to re-activate the pliobond and roll the dacron into the softened cement and let dry. Yes I know there are probably 1000 old timers who will dissagree with this methood, but if there is one with experiance in this methhod I would love to here your advise. Any who have tried this methood and had bad results I value your input also. But all who say this is bad out of lack of knowlage or experiance , save your breath. Don't mean to offend anyone, and sorry if this is off the Piet Topics, but just trying to get some good advise from long time, old school home builders, and where better than from the oldest homebuilt design ever. Shad _________________________________________________ This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privilege d, proprietary or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is p rohibited. 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I used the Stits epoxy varnish on my Pietenpol and probably didn't use more than $150 worth on the whole plane. That is a cheap price to pay for peace of mind. Just remember that Steve Wittman was killed by unribstitched fabric delaminating and causing aileron flutter. This is NOT the place to scrimp on quality. Jack Phillips NX899JP Raleigh, NC ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:06:47 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Newbie From: "Mark Baxter" Greetings all, This is my first post but I have been following along for several months. I recently purchased a GN-1 project with steel fuselage on J-3 type gear. The fuselage was built without variation from the drawings and workmanship seems top notch. I am a first time builder and intend to adhere to the plans and 43-13. I intend to use a Continental without accessories. My goal is to save time where possible and use J-3 components such as engine mount, tank, and cowl. Can anyone here advise on this line of thinking. From what I gather I need to be mindful of overall weight and CG. Thanks in advance and I look forward to getting to know some of you. Mark Baxter Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=227718#227718 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 01:04:34 PM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Newbie Welcome Mark! I'll let some of the GN-1 builders answer your technical questions. Where are you located? Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion Tail done, working on fuselage (endless metal parts!) (12 ribs down.) -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Baxter Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 10:51 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Newbie Greetings all, This is my first post but I have been following along for several months. I recently purchased a GN-1 project with steel fuselage on J-3 type gear. The fuselage was built without variation from the drawings and workmanship seems top notch. I am a first time builder and intend to adhere to the plans and 43-13. I intend to use a Continental without accessories. My goal is to save time where possible and use J-3 components such as engine mount, tank, and cowl. Can anyone here advise on this line of thinking. From what I gather I need to be mindful of overall weight and CG. Thanks in advance and I look forward to getting to know some of you. Mark Baxter Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=227718#227718 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 02:16:14 PM PST US From: CHRISTINE BAXTER Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Newbie Hi gary, Thanks for the reply, I am looking forward to getting to know some folks on the list. I am located in Corvallis, Oregon. Take care., Mark On Jan 30, 2009, at 12:47 PM, Gary Boothe wrote: > > > Welcome Mark! > > I'll let some of the GN-1 builders answer your technical questions. > Where > are you located? > > Gary Boothe > Cool, Ca. > Pietenpol > WW Corvair Conversion > Tail done, working on fuselage (endless metal parts!) > (12 ribs down.) > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > Mark Baxter > Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 10:51 AM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Newbie > > > > Greetings all, > This is my first post but I have been following along for several > months. I > recently purchased a GN-1 project with steel fuselage on J-3 type > gear. The > fuselage was built without variation from the drawings and > workmanship seems > top notch. I am a first time builder and intend to adhere to the > plans and > 43-13. I intend to use a Continental without accessories. My goal > is to > save time where possible and use J-3 components such as engine > mount, tank, > and cowl. Can anyone here advise on this line of thinking. From > what I > gather I need to be mindful of overall weight and CG. Thanks in > advance and > I look forward to getting to know some of you. > Mark Baxter > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=227718#227718 > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 03:32:45 PM PST US From: "Frank Metcalfe" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Alternative epoxy varnish If you use Stwart system the you dont need to epoxy varnish and you cover in your house ... No smell. I like poly fiber but I will allways use the stwart system form now on. We have covered 6 peit wings, tail feathers and one fus. I now think stweart system is the best water clean up too! ----- Original Message ----- From: shad bell To: Pietenpol Discussion Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 10:02 Subject: Pietenpol-List: Alternative epoxy varnish Group, Do any of you know of an alternitive to the poly fiber epoxy varnish, that is cheaper. I will need epoxy varnish on my Jungster 1 where the fabric glues to the wings, tail. Poly Fiber from aircraft spruce is upwards of $170 a gallon. Spar varnish will not work in this aplication due to the fabric cement I will be using, it is mek based, and will lift the varnish off the wood. Any sugestions appreciated. 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It just means that you and I are on more than one e-mail list together. ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 05:49:44 PM PST US From: "Gardiner Mason" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Alternative epoxy varnish Frank, can you use the stewart system to make repairs, like patches, on previosly coated fabrick with poly brush or polytac. Gardiner ----- Original Message ----- From: Frank Metcalfe To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 6:17 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Alternative epoxy varnish If you use Stwart system the you dont need to epoxy varnish and you cover in your house ... No smell. I like poly fiber but I will allways use the stwart system form now on. We have covered 6 peit wings, tail feathers and one fus. I now think stweart system is the best water clean up too! ----- Original Message ----- From: shad bell To: Pietenpol Discussion Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 10:02 Subject: Pietenpol-List: Alternative epoxy varnish Group, Do any of you know of an alternitive to the poly fiber epoxy varnish, that is cheaper. I will need epoxy varnish on my Jungster 1 where the fabric glues to the wings, tail. Poly Fiber from aircraft spruce is upwards of $170 a gallon. Spar varnish will not work in this aplication due to the fabric cement I will be using, it is mek based, and will lift the varnish off the wood. Any sugestions appreciated. 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Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Newbie Welcome Mark Have you been to OSH or Sun n Fun? The fly marts there are great for finding used parts and saving big $. Also, have you been to the Barnstormers web site. You will find lots of deals there also. Dick N. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Baxter" Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 12:50 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Newbie > > Greetings all, > This is my first post but I have been following along for several months. > I recently purchased a GN-1 project with steel fuselage on J-3 type gear. > The fuselage was built without variation from the drawings and workmanship > seems top notch. I am a first time builder and intend to adhere to the > plans and 43-13. I intend to use a Continental without accessories. My > goal is to save time where possible and use J-3 components such as engine > mount, tank, and cowl. Can anyone here advise on this line of thinking. > From what I gather I need to be mindful of overall weight and CG. Thanks > in advance and I look forward to getting to know some of you. > Mark Baxter > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=227718#227718 > > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 09:18:40 PM PST US From: CHRISTINE BAXTER Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Newbie Hi Dick, I went to OSH and Brodhead for the first time last summer. I enjoyed Brodhead tremendously! I am going to try and get back this summer. Thanks for the reply. Mark On Jan 30, 2009, at 6:04 PM, Dick N. wrote: > > > Welcome Mark > Have you been to OSH or Sun n Fun? The fly marts there are great > for finding used parts and saving big $. Also, have you been to > the Barnstormers web site. You will find lots of deals there also. > Dick N. > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Baxter" > > To: > Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 12:50 PM > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Newbie > > >> >> >> Greetings all, >> This is my first post but I have been following along for several >> months. I recently purchased a GN-1 project with steel fuselage on >> J-3 type gear. The fuselage was built without variation from the >> drawings and workmanship seems top notch. I am a first time >> builder and intend to adhere to the plans and 43-13. I intend to >> use a Continental without accessories. My goal is to save time >> where possible and use J-3 components such as engine mount, tank, >> and cowl. Can anyone here advise on this line of thinking. From >> what I gather I need to be mindful of overall weight and CG. >> Thanks in advance and I look forward to getting to know some of you. >> Mark Baxter >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=227718#227718 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 09:50:44 PM PST US From: Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Newbie Ye Haw, another West Coast builder. Too bad your so far north. Chris Sacramento, CA WestCoastPiet.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "CHRISTINE BAXTER" Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 2:02 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Newbie > > > Hi gary, > Thanks for the reply, I am looking forward to getting to know some folks > on the list. I am located in Corvallis, Oregon. Take care., > Mark > On Jan 30, 2009, at 12:47 PM, Gary Boothe wrote: > >> >> >> Welcome Mark! >> >> I'll let some of the GN-1 builders answer your technical questions. >> Where >> are you located? >> >> Gary Boothe >> Cool, Ca. >> Pietenpol >> WW Corvair Conversion >> Tail done, working on fuselage (endless metal parts!) >> (12 ribs down.) >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark >> Baxter >> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 10:51 AM >> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Newbie >> >> >> >> Greetings all, >> This is my first post but I have been following along for several >> months. I >> recently purchased a GN-1 project with steel fuselage on J-3 type gear. >> The >> fuselage was built without variation from the drawings and workmanship >> seems >> top notch. I am a first time builder and intend to adhere to the plans >> and >> 43-13. I intend to use a Continental without accessories. My goal is >> to >> save time where possible and use J-3 components such as engine mount, >> tank, >> and cowl. Can anyone here advise on this line of thinking. From what I >> gather I need to be mindful of overall weight and CG. Thanks in advance >> and >> I look forward to getting to know some of you. >> Mark Baxter >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=227718#227718 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.