---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 02/09/09: 22 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:15 AM - Re: Model A carb heat (Clif Dawson) 2. 06:56 AM - NX-, NC- radio calls (Oscar Zuniga) 3. 07:09 AM - Re: NX-, NC- radio calls (Roman Bukolt) 4. 07:28 AM - Re: NX-, NC- radio calls (Phillips, Jack) 5. 08:04 AM - NX-, NC-radio calls (Oscar Zuniga) 6. 08:27 AM - Re: NX-, NC- radio calls (Lagowski Morrow) 7. 08:39 AM - Re: NX-, NC-radio calls (H RULE) 8. 12:14 PM - Brodhead International (Steve Eldredge) 9. 12:42 PM - Heel brake pedals (Ed G.) 10. 12:55 PM - Re: NX-, NC- radio calls (Steve Eldredge) 11. 01:05 PM - Re: Heel brake pedals (Phillips, Jack) 12. 01:45 PM - Re: Heel brake pedals (Ed G.) 13. 01:50 PM - Re: Heel brake pedals (Ryan Mueller) 14. 04:22 PM - Re: NX-, NC- radio calls (Don Emch) 15. 04:24 PM - Re: Brodhead International (Tim Willis) 16. 04:40 PM - Re: Brodhead International (Gary Boothe) 17. 04:40 PM - Re: Brodhead International (Jeff Boatright) 18. 06:27 PM - Re: Brodhead International (airlion@bellsouth.net) 19. 06:34 PM - Re: Brodhead International (Rick Holland) 20. 06:37 PM - Re: Brodhead International (airlion@bellsouth.net) 21. 06:53 PM - Re: Re Piet Dihedral (Kevin McDonald) 22. 08:08 PM - Heel brake pedals (Oscar Zuniga) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:15:58 AM PST US From: "Clif Dawson" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Model A carb heat Yes, and you should go here. There's a picture of a chart. Save the pic to your computer then you can enlarge it to legible size. It might surprise you. http://www.aopa.org/asf/epilot_acc/nyc02fa025_1.html Check this out as well; http://www.flycorvair.com/carbice.html Clif John, Icing has very little to do with flying in summer or winter. walt evans NX140DL ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:56:21 AM PST US From: Oscar Zuniga Subject: Pietenpol-List: NX-, NC- radio calls For those of you flying aircraft with NX- or NC- registration markings=2C what is your radio call? "experimental November Xray one-two-three Bravo"=2C or just "experimental November one-two-three Bravo"? In other words=2C do you use the "Xray" or "Charlie" in the radio call if you have them on your fuselage markings? Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC San Antonio=2C TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:09:33 AM PST US From: Roman Bukolt Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: NX-, NC- radio calls Nx20795 I use "Experimental 20795" On Feb 9, 2009, at 8:53 AM, Oscar Zuniga wrote: > For those of you flying aircraft with NX- or NC- registration > markings, > what is your radio call? "experimental November Xray one-two-three > Bravo", or just "experimental November one-two-three Bravo"? In > other words, do you use the "Xray" or "Charlie" in the radio call if > you > have them on your fuselage markings? > > Oscar Zuniga > Air Camper NX41CC > San Antonio, TX > mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com > website at http://www.flysquirrel.net > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:28:12 AM PST US Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: NX-, NC- radio calls From: "Phillips, Jack" Normally, when flying around my home area, I just call myself "Pietenpol 899 Juliet Papa". However, when I flew into Dulles International last June for the Udvar-hazy "Be a Pilot Family Day", contacting Potomac Approach to enter the Washington ADIZ and the Dulles Class B airspace, I called in "Pietenpol November X-Ray Eight Niner Niner Juliet Papa." My understanding is you can call yourslef "experimental" or you can use x-ray in your call sign, but you are supposed to do one or the other. I have used "Experimental" before, but saying that immediately causes the question "what type experimental?" Jack Phillips NX899JP _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Oscar Zuniga Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 9:53 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: NX-, NC- radio calls For those of you flying aircraft with NX- or NC- registration markings, what is your radio call? "experimental November Xray one-two-three Bravo", or just "experimental November one-two-three Bravo"? In other words, do you use the "Xray" or "Charlie" in the radio call if you have them on your fuselage markings? Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net _________________________________________________ This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privilege d, proprietary or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is p rohibited. Dansk - Deutsch - Espanol - Francais - Italiano - Japanese - Nederlands - N orsk - Portuguese ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:04:46 AM PST US From: Oscar Zuniga Subject: Pietenpol-List: NX-, NC-radio calls Thanks for the replies. My airplane just underwent its annual condition inspection and my A&P recommended that I add a small placard on the panel with the aircraft radio call. That prompted my question. Believe it or not=2C the only item on the inspection that has the airplane grounded right now is the lack of a compass correction card! I found a number of minor hardware squawks and things here and there that I'm working on=2C but the compass correction card is officially required before I can fly again. Love the FAA... Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC San Antonio=2C TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:27:29 AM PST US From: "Lagowski Morrow" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: NX-, NC- radio calls I use Jack's approach--Jim lagowski Do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: Phillips, Jack To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 10:25 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: NX-, NC- radio calls Normally, when flying around my home area, I just call myself "Pietenpol 899 Juliet Papa". However, when I flew into Dulles International last June for the Udvar-hazy "Be a Pilot Family Day", contacting Potomac Approach to enter the Washington ADIZ and the Dulles Class B airspace, I called in "Pietenpol November X-Ray Eight Niner Niner Juliet Papa." My understanding is you can call yourslef "experimental" or you can use x-ray in your call sign, but you are supposed to do one or the other. I have used "Experimental" before, but saying that immediately causes the question "what type experimental?" Jack Phillips NX899JP ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Oscar Zuniga Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 9:53 AM To: Pietenpol List Subject: Pietenpol-List: NX-, NC- radio calls For those of you flying aircraft with NX- or NC- registration markings, what is your radio call? "experimental November Xray one-two-three Bravo", or just "experimental November one-two-three Bravo"? In other words, do you use the "Xray" or "Charlie" in the radio call if you have them on your fuselage markings? Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-Listhttp://forums.matronics. comhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution _________________________________________________ This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. Dansk - Deutsch - Espanol - Francais - Italiano - Japanese - Nederlands - Norsk - Portuguese ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 01/30/09 17:31:00 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:39:32 AM PST US From: H RULE Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: NX-, NC-radio calls Too bad you are not in Canada then you could register as an ultralight and your problem would go away.I do all my own inspection unless of course-I want a friend of mine who just happens to be an AME look at it just for old times sake.Most of the time I use GPS anyway and if that fails IFR(I follo w rails or roads) method.Never been lost yet.=0A=0A=0Ado not archive=0A=0A =0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Oscar Zuniga =0ATo: Pietenpol List =0ASent: Mon day, February 9, 2009 11:03:32 AM=0ASubject: Pietenpol-List: NX-, NC-radio calls=0A=0AThanks for the replies.- My airplane just underwent its annual =0Acondition inspection and my A&P recommended that I add a small=0Aplacard on the panel with the aircraft radio call.- That prompted =0Amy question .=0A-=0ABelieve it or not, the only item on the inspection that has the =0Aairplane grounded right now is the lack of a compass correction=0Acard! - I found a number of minor hardware squawks and things=0Ahere and there that I'm working on, but the compass correction=0Acard is officially requir ed before I can fly again.- Love the FAA...=0A-=0AOscar Zuniga=0AAir Ca mper NX41CC=0ASan Antonio, TX=0Amailto: taildrags@hotmail.com=0Awebsite at =========================0A ====== ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 12:14:13 PM PST US From: Steve Eldredge Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead International All Pietenpolers! The snow and the gray skies has got me thinking about summer, and our 80th Anniversary plans. I am excited to make the trip to Brodhead and sit round the campfire and en joy the misty mornings in the early light of day. Like the rest of you I'm face with the challenge of arranging vacation, fam ily and means to make the trip happen. I have three aims for this trip. 1) Teach my boys (Dallin, age 9, and Crandall, age 11) how to dream big and work hard. 2) Show them the beauty of America - Low and Slow style. 3) t each them to give generously. While I'm working on another round of baseball caps and an anniversary patc h, My boys and I came up with the idea they can help with. Crandall and D allin, (with a little help from Dad) present the soon-to-be-famous 'Brodhe ad International' sticker! To honor EAA chapter 431 and give something ba ck to our hosts who so kindly and graciously invite us back every year, we are donating $1 per order sold, to them. Here is the design. Size is 4x6 in Black and white. $5 each or 3 for $10 Shipping included. [cid:image002.png@01C98AAE.389018C0] Send checks to: Crandall or Dallin Eldredge 2810 E Canyon Rd Spanish Fork, UT 84660 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 12:42:35 PM PST US From: "Ed G." Subject: Pietenpol-List: Heel brake pedals Hello everyone...I just finished my wings and need to turn my attention to brakes. I try to figure things out on my own but I think the experience of others will help me with the best position for my heel brake pedals. I'm s ure most Piets have heel brakes and some folks wish they had put them sligh tly farther forward or aft. The Areonca that I fly has heel brakes but with rudder pedals so that doesn't help much. So...My question is=3B How far ba ck from the rudder bar is the ideal position for the brake pedals?? That's probably a dumb question because I've never seen it asked before. Thanks Ed Grentzer ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 12:55:27 PM PST US From: Steve Eldredge Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: NX-, NC- radio calls Radio call? 10 years flying without electricity.... NX7229R From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-lis t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Oscar Zuniga Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 7:53 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: NX-, NC- radio calls For those of you flying aircraft with NX- or NC- registration markings, what is your radio call? "experimental November Xray one-two-three Bravo", or just "experimental November one-two-three Bravo"? In other words, do you use the "Xray" or "Charlie" in the radio call if you have them on your fuselage markings? Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 01:05:25 PM PST US Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Heel brake pedals From: "Phillips, Jack" Not a dumb question at all. My recommendation is to mock up some pieces for your fuselage and try them out, sitting in the pilot's seat. That's what I did. Too hard to make recommendations since everyone's airplane and body are different. One word of advice that I wish I had when I installed my brake cylinders is to make sure you install them in such a way that bubbles of air will not have to travel downhill in order to bleed the brakes. My brakes are a royal bear to bleed. Jack Phillips NX899JP _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ed G. Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 3:38 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Heel brake pedals Hello everyone...I just finished my wings and need to turn my attention to brakes. I try to figure things out on my own but I think the experience of others will help me with the best position for my heel brake pedals. I'm sure most Piets have heel brakes and some folks wish they had put them slightly farther forward or aft. The Areonca that I fly has heel brakes but with rudder pedals so that doesn't help much. So...My question is; How far back from the rudder bar is the ideal position for the brake pedals?? That's probably a dumb question because I've never seen it asked before. Thanks Ed Grentzer _________________________________________________ This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privilege d, proprietary or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is p rohibited. Dansk - Deutsch - Espanol - Francais - Italiano - Japanese - Nederlands - N orsk - Portuguese ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 01:45:36 PM PST US From: "Ed G." Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Heel brake pedals Thanks Jack..I guess I could cut some different lenghts of 2X2 and prop the m against the front ash crossmemebr till I find the right spot where I can brake and still steer.. Right now I'm thinking of 5" Azusa mechanical drums . Light weight=2C inexpensive=2C not to powerful and no leaks or bubbles. E d G. Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Heel brake pedalsDate: Mon=2C 9 Feb 2009 16:04 :21 -0500From: Jack.Phillips@cardinalhealth.comTo: pietenpol-list@matronics .com Not a dumb question at all. My recommendation is to mock up some pieces fo r your fuselage and try them out=2C sitting in the pilot=92s seat. That=92 s what I did. Too hard to make recommendations since everyone=92s airplane and body are different. One word of advice that I wish I had when I insta lled my brake cylinders is to make sure you install them in such a way that bubbles of air will not have to travel downhill in order to bleed the brak es. My brakes are a royal bear to bleed. Jack Phillips NX899JP From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-lis t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ed G.Sent: Monday=2C February 09=2C 20 09 3:38 PMTo: piet-list piet-listSubject: Pietenpol-List: Heel brake pedals Hello everyone...I just finished my wings and need to turn my attention t o brakes. I try to figure things out on my own but I think the experience o f others will help me with the best position for my heel brake pedals. I'm sure most Piets have heel brakes and some folks wish they had put them slig htly farther forward or aft. The Areonca that I fly has heel brakes but wit h rudder pedals so that doesn't help much. So...My question is=3B How far b ack from the rudder bar is the ideal position for the brake pedals?? That's probably a dumb question because I've never seen it asked before. Thanks Ed Grentzer http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-Listhttp://foru ms.matronics.comhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution _________________________________________________ This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privilege d=2C proprietary or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error=2C pleas e notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is p rohibited. Dansk - Deutsch - Espanol - Francais - Italiano - Japanese - Nederlands - N orsk - Portuguese ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 01:50:25 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Heel brake pedals From: Ryan Mueller Ed, You could use this style of master cylinder/pedal setup: http://www.westcoastpiet.com/images/Kurt%20Shipman/P1010101.JPG http://www.westcoastpiet.com/images/Bill%20Rewey/DSCF0016.JPG ...and have sort of a toe brake system. Ryan On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Ed G. wrote: > > Hello everyone...I just finished my wings and need to turn my attention to > brakes. I try to figure things out on my own but I think the experience of > others will help me with the best position for my heel brake pedals. I'm > sure most Piets have heel brakes and some folks wish they had put them > slightly farther forward or aft. The Areonca that I fly has heel brakes but > with rudder pedals so that doesn't help much. So...My question is; How far > back from the rudder bar is the ideal position for the brake pedals?? That's > probably a dumb question because I've never seen it asked before. Thanks > Ed Grentzer > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 04:22:32 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: NX-, NC- radio calls From: "Don Emch" I just kinda skip that part. I usually just say what I want to do. I try to throttle back so they can hear me better, which usually helps the folks on the ground. But I've yet to have someone in another airplane hear me though. Thinking about carrying a megaphone with me. Gotta love the no electric thing. Sorry! Don Emch NX899DE PLEASE! DO NOT ARCHIVE!!!! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=229450#229450 ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 04:24:09 PM PST US From: Tim Willis Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead International Steve, That design is fine for a sticker for the event this year. Looks good. However, when it comes to a patch, a hat, or whatever, I hope that both Pietenpol and the image of the plane itself are more prominently displayed. I am speaking only for myself, of course. Tim in central TX -----Original Message----- >From: Steve Eldredge >Sent: Feb 9, 2009 2:11 PM >To: "pietenpol-list@matronics.com" >Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead International > > >All Pietenpolers! > >The snow and the gray skies has got me thinking about summer, and our 80th Anniversary plans. > >I am excited to make the trip to Brodhead and sit round the campfire and enjoy the misty mornings in the early light of day. > >Like the rest of you I'm face with the challenge of arranging vacation, family and means to make the trip happen. I have three aims for this trip. 1) Teach my boys (Dallin, age 9, and Crandall, age 11) how to dream big and work hard. 2) Show them the beauty of America - Low and Slow style. 3) teach them to give generously. > >While I'm working on another round of baseball caps and an anniversary patch, My boys and I came up with the idea they can help with. Crandall and Dallin, (with a little help from Dad) present the soon-to-be-famous 'Brodhead International' sticker! To honor EAA chapter 431 and give something back to our hosts who so kindly and graciously invite us back every year, we are donating $1 per order sold, to them. > >Here is the design. Size is 4x6 in Black and white. >$5 each or 3 for $10 >Shipping included. >[cid:image002.png@01C98AAE.389018C0] >Send checks to: > >Crandall or Dallin Eldredge >2810 E Canyon Rd >Spanish Fork, UT 84660 > > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 04:40:49 PM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead International Steve, Hate to bother, but could you send that link again? Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion Tail done, working on fuselage (endless metal parts!) (12 ribs down.) Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Willis Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 4:24 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead International Steve, That design is fine for a sticker for the event this year. Looks good. However, when it comes to a patch, a hat, or whatever, I hope that both Pietenpol and the image of the plane itself are more prominently displayed. I am speaking only for myself, of course. Tim in central TX -----Original Message----- >From: Steve Eldredge >Sent: Feb 9, 2009 2:11 PM >To: "pietenpol-list@matronics.com" >Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead International > > >All Pietenpolers! > >The snow and the gray skies has got me thinking about summer, and our 80th Anniversary plans. > >I am excited to make the trip to Brodhead and sit round the campfire and enjoy the misty mornings in the early light of day. > >Like the rest of you I'm face with the challenge of arranging vacation, family and means to make the trip happen. I have three aims for this trip. 1) Teach my boys (Dallin, age 9, and Crandall, age 11) how to dream big and work hard. 2) Show them the beauty of America - Low and Slow style. 3) teach them to give generously. > >While I'm working on another round of baseball caps and an anniversary patch, My boys and I came up with the idea they can help with. Crandall and Dallin, (with a little help from Dad) present the soon-to-be-famous 'Brodhead International' sticker! To honor EAA chapter 431 and give something back to our hosts who so kindly and graciously invite us back every year, we are donating $1 per order sold, to them. > >Here is the design. Size is 4x6 in Black and white. >$5 each or 3 for $10 >Shipping included. >[cid:image002.png@01C98AAE.389018C0] >Send checks to: > >Crandall or Dallin Eldredge >2810 E Canyon Rd >Spanish Fork, UT 84660 > > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 04:40:49 PM PST US From: Jeff Boatright Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead International Clean, unique. I like it. I'll put two on the Piet. ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 06:27:28 PM PST US From: airlion@bellsouth.net Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead International ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 06:34:28 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead International From: Rick Holland I agree, should have a Piet image on it (in my opinion). Rick On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 5:23 PM, Tim Willis wrote: > timothywillis@earthlink.net> > > Steve, > > That design is fine for a sticker for the event this year. Looks good. > However, when it comes to a patch, a hat, or whatever, I hope that both > Pietenpol and the image of the plane itself are more prominently displayed. > I am speaking only for myself, of course. > > Tim in central TX > > -----Original Message----- > >From: Steve Eldredge > >Sent: Feb 9, 2009 2:11 PM > >To: "pietenpol-list@matronics.com" > >Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead International > > > > > > > >All Pietenpolers! > > > >The snow and the gray skies has got me thinking about summer, and our 80th > Anniversary plans. > > > >I am excited to make the trip to Brodhead and sit round the campfire and > enjoy the misty mornings in the early light of day. > > > >Like the rest of you I'm face with the challenge of arranging vacation, > family and means to make the trip happen. I have three aims for this trip. > 1) Teach my boys (Dallin, age 9, and Crandall, age 11) how to dream big > and work hard. 2) Show them the beauty of America - Low and Slow style. 3) > teach them to give generously. > > > >While I'm working on another round of baseball caps and an anniversary > patch, My boys and I came up with the idea they can help with. Crandall > and Dallin, (with a little help from Dad) present the soon-to-be-famous > 'Brodhead International' sticker! To honor EAA chapter 431 and give > something back to our hosts who so kindly and graciously invite us back > every year, we are donating $1 per order sold, to them. > > > >Here is the design. Size is 4x6 in Black and white. > >$5 each or 3 for $10 > >Shipping included. > >[cid:image002.png@01C98AAE.389018C0] > >Send checks to: > > > >Crandall or Dallin Eldredge > >2810 E Canyon Rd > >Spanish Fork, UT 84660 > > > > > > > > > > -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 06:37:13 PM PST US From: airlion@bellsouth.net Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead International ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 06:53:22 PM PST US From: "Kevin McDonald" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re Piet Dihedral 1 piece wing with no dihedral does create the butter churn. ktm austin tx ----- Original Message ----- From: GR Hewitt To: Pietenpol-List Digest Server Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 6:47 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re Piet Dihedral What is the consensus views on Dihedral in Piet wings if you put any in, how much please. Thanks Graham Hewitt Hanging wings on for a trial fit ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 08:08:12 PM PST US From: Oscar Zuniga Subject: Pietenpol-List: Heel brake pedals Air Camper NX41CC has toe brakes exactly like the Bill Rewey detail and like several others have shown. I really like them. I used to think that I'd like heel brakes better since that's what I cut my teeth on in my J-3 Cub training days=2C but the rudder bar on the Piet makes it not so easy to deal with heel brakes. The "Bill Rewey" toe brake setup is simple=2C effective=2C and it puts the brake masters where they are quite easy to inspect and service. My other project=2C the M-19 Flying Squirrel=2C uses Azusa mechanical drum brakes and even though I have not flown them yet=2C I've heard (and seen for myself) that the drums are quite thin and easy to get out of round with heavy brake application. I had mine trued up on a lathe but even so=2C they are quite lightweight and prone to distortion. I'd go with Tracy O'Brien modified Azusas (www.TracyObrien.com) on something the size of a Piet. They are used on KRs and work fine. Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC San Antonio=2C TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.