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1. 03:24 AM - Re: Re Tail dimensions (helspersew@aol.com)
2. 05:33 AM - Pietenpol wing placement (Lawrence Williams)
3. 05:49 AM - Re: couple of questions (Gene Rambo)
4. 05:51 AM - Re: Pietenpol wing placement (H RULE)
5. 06:53 AM - Re: Pietenpol wing placement (Owen Davies)
6. 07:05 AM - Re: Re Tail dimensions/ woodwork (brian.e.jardine@l-3com.com)
7. 07:07 AM - Re: Pietenpol wing placement (Ed G.)
8. 08:13 AM - Mag timing and cowling (helspersew@aol.com)
9. 08:14 AM - Re: Re Tail dimensions (Catdesigns)
10. 08:24 AM - Re: Mag timing and cowling (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
11. 09:10 AM - Skyscout project for sale (Donald Cooley)
12. 11:39 AM - Elevator cable feel and tension trouble. (Scott Schreiber)
13. 02:07 PM - Re: couple of questions (Don Emch)
14. 02:58 PM - Straight axle gear and brakes (helspersew@aol.com)
15. 03:10 PM - Re: Re: couple of questions (walt)
16. 04:21 PM - Re: Re Tail dimensions (Clif Dawson)
17. 05:02 PM - Re: couple of questions (Don Emch)
18. 05:04 PM - Re: Re Tail dimensions/ woodwork (Clif Dawson)
19. 05:12 PM - Re: Re: couple of questions (Jim Ash)
20. 05:23 PM - Re: Re: Re Tail dimensions (Clif Dawson)
21. 05:33 PM - Re: Re: couple of questions (Gene & Tammy)
22. 05:37 PM - Tail brace wires with turnbuckles (not) (helspersew@aol.com)
23. 06:35 PM - 3 Piets on Barnstormers (Roy Brooks)
24. 06:48 PM - Re: Re Tail dimensions (Gary Boothe)
25. 06:59 PM - Re: Tail brace wires with turnbuckles (not) (Clif Dawson)
26. 08:43 PM - Re: Straight axle gear and brakes (amsafetyc@aol.com)
27. 10:31 PM - Re: Mid-Wing Pietenpol (Mild Bill)
28. 10:33 PM - Re: Re Tail dimensions (Clif Dawson)
29. 11:04 PM - Re: Re: Mid-Wing Pietenpol (Clif Dawson)
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| Subject: | Re: Re Tail dimensions |
Cliff,
I went back and looked at your tail photo. Can't make out anything. We need a close-up
to see what you are talking about.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove IL
NX929DH
-----Original Message-----
From: Clif Dawson <CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca>
Sent: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 9:39 pm
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re Tail dimensions
Thanks to you and Harv.
?
I'm surprised. No one commented on my tail brace wires. :-)
?
I have the feeling that I've seen everything, but failed to notice the elephants.
(Anton Chekhov)
Cliff,
I like all your woodwork details; lightening holes, fairings and tapers etc. Very
nice work you should be proud of. Everything obviously well thought out. Nice
job.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
NX929DH
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| Subject: | Pietenpol wing placement |
Dave-
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I believe when you say "Piet" you mean the Air Camper, not an all-inclusive
Bernard Pietenpol list of designs. Mr. Pietenpol did design and briefly fl
y a biplane but the specs are lost to history as there were never any plans
made available.
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There are only two versions of Pietenpol aircraft plans available, the Scou
t and the Air Camper. Neither one is a "bi-wing", they are both parasol con
figured. Any gross modifications of the design would by definition, take th
em out of the "Pietenpol" genre.
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Larry Williams- xcg, xcmr, epp=0A=0A=0A
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| Subject: | Re: couple of questions |
I want to run a couple of questions by the group:
1. Those of you running Model A engines, how do you have it timed?
30 before TDC sounds about right, but not sure.
2. All of the photos on here lately that show the cockpit coaming
have it ending a few inches aft of the panel (on the sides). This is
how I want to do it, although the drawings show it continuing all the
way around, which I do not care for. What are most of you doing? What
dimension?? TLAR (that looks about right) or is there some dimension
used most often (I was playing with 6-8" aft of the panel, but that may
be too far).
Thanks for any help,
Gene
working like crazy to make Brodhead '09
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol wing placement |
Bernard started with the Jenny and went on to modify it from there.So the b
iplane you refer to would have been close to a Jenny.=0A=0Ado not archive
=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Lawrence Williams <
lnawms@yahoo.com>=0ATo: davea@symbolicdisplays.com; Pietlist <pietenpol-lis
t@matronics.com>=0ASent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 8:27:13 AM=0ASubject: P
ietenpol-List: Pietenpol wing placement=0A=0A=0ADave-=0A=0AI believe when y
ou say "Piet" you mean the Air Camper, not an all-inclusive Bernard Pietenp
ol list of designs. Mr. Pietenpol did design and briefly fly a biplane but
the specs are lost to history as there were never any plans made available.
=0A=0AThere are only two versions of Pietenpol aircraft plans available, th
e Scout and the Air Camper. Neither one is a "bi-wing", they are both paras
ol configured. Any gross modifications of the design would by definition, t
ake them out of the "Pietenpol" genre.=0A=0ALarry Williams- xcg, xcmr, ep
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol wing placement |
H RULE wrote:
> Bernard started with the Jenny and went on to modify it from there.So
> the biplane you refer to would have been close to a Jenny.
I missed the runup to this post, but it sounds like the airplane in
question must be the Aerial, the biplane modification of the Aircamper.
Plans were available from Chad Willie, last I knew.
Owen
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| Subject: | Re Tail dimensions/ woodwork |
Cliff,
Very nice woodwork. Just wondering if you could post a few close up
pics of your turtledeck? Would like to see what you have done in that
area.
Brian
SLC
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Clif
Dawson
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 9:03 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re Tail dimensions
I have made mine to the F+G manual and this is the result;
Also there was discussion on flops. This is mine. It will be
clear plexi top and bottom.
Easy strong arm airbrake too! :-)
Clif
The dimensions for the various parts which the rudder attaches
to do not add up
If you build the fin & fuse according to the plans, then the
rudder will hang down below the bottom of the fuse by around 11/2
inches.
Thanks Graham Hewitt
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| Subject: | Pietenpol wing placement |
When I bought my first set of plans from St. Croix aircraft ( I didn't know
about he Pietenpol family's plans at the time) I was sent an information p
acket that showed plans and info for a biplane supposedly designed by Berna
rd called the Aeriel (sp?). it was basically a Piet with an extra set of wi
ngs and required a 125hp engine to overcome the extra drag=2C and I'm sure
there were other differences. St Croix had the plans available for sale at
that time ( early 2000 ) and still may.
Ed Grentzer
From: lnawms@yahoo.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol wing placement
Dave-
I believe when you say "Piet" you mean the Air Camper=2C not an all-inclusi
ve Bernard Pietenpol list of designs. Mr. Pietenpol did design and briefly
fly a biplane but the specs are lost to history as there were never any pla
ns made available.
There are only two versions of Pietenpol aircraft plans available=2C the Sc
out and the Air Camper. Neither one is a "bi-wing"=2C they are both parasol
configured. Any gross modifications of the design would by definition=2C t
ake them out of the "Pietenpol" genre.
Larry Williams xcg=2C xcmr=2C epp
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| Subject: | Mag timing and cowling |
Gene,
?
I timed mine 30 degrees BTC. Runs great like that. Very strong. As far as the cowling
goes, you don't know how much I agonized about the design/style. See attached
pic.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL
NX929DH
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| Subject: | Re: Re Tail dimensions |
I think that we don't see anything IS the point. I don't see any turn buckles.
Chris
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Sacramento, CA
WestCoastPiet.com
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| Subject: | Re: Mag timing and cowling |
Dan,
She is looking great, are we going to see her at Brodhead this year?
I just purchased a set of wheels and straight axle but no landing year as of
yet. Do you have some pics of yours I can look at I have no idea of how the
axle mounts to the gear or how I am going to come up with a braking system.
Thanks
John
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| Subject: | Skyscout project for sale |
Hello Piet enthusiasts!=0AFor many years I have planned to build a SkyScout
..- To that end I have accumulated much stuff, looking forward to the time
when I would have time to build.- Now I have time and my time for flying
has run out.- My vision has become marginal for flying and by the time I
was to finish building it will be inadequate.- Therefore, I am offering
the "stuff" I have for sale.- =0A=0AI have virtually all the spruce neede
d, including spars, spoke wheels from Dream Machines (?), J-3 fuel tank, Vi
Kappler hinges, Welded control horns, a set of wing ribs built up and a di
sassembled A-65 and prop.- Also some miscellaneous instruments, including
an antique tachometer.- Plans, too.- I will also include the erection
table (30" X 14').=0A=0AAltogether I estimate my cost for all this at about
$2800.00.- I am willing to sell all for $1500.00 and will deliver anywhe
re west of the Rockies for $.20 per mile.=0A=0ADon Cooley- (530)669-3520
- Woodland, CA=0A=0A=0A
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| Subject: | Elevator cable feel and tension trouble. |
I finished my controls and was setting up the loop from the stick to the
reverser and back and I ran into a problem that I and my tech counselor
are both worried about. The system is built according to plans other
than a thin hardwood strip above the cable exit point and a turnbuckle
to adjust tension. When rigged with a tension that feels good the cable
is fairly slack and when you go full stick forward the cable rises off
the front pulley. There is a also a noticeable but not severe "hump" as
the stick transitions backward movement and the cable tension changes.
If I tension it where the cable does not rise off the pulley moving the
stick takes a fair amount of force, the "hump" is very pronounced and I
can't imagine any feedback being felt. Neither of us has ever seen the
piet mechanism in person before I built this one, and he is a talented
RV guy but has limited cable system exposure. I am stuck between the
notion that cables rising off pulleys and such is unacceptable and that
the problems are part of the design and the reality that Piets have
flown for 80 something years with that design. That would normally tell
me I have done something wrong but neither I nor my tech counselor can
find a meaningful deviation or a mistake. Any ideas?
-Scott
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| Subject: | Re: couple of questions |
Gene,
I ended my aluminum about 6 to 8 inches back from the panel. I have the combing
on the aluminum and the longerons. It's really nice to be able to put all of
my weight on the longeron. I have passengers put their weight on the front
cockpit longerons. With aluminum there it may get crushed.
Can kinda see it here;
http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Don%20Emch/Brodhead__20070720_092.JPG
Don Emch
NX899DE
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| Subject: | Straight axle gear and brakes |
John,
Here is one way of doing the brakes with the straight axle. The photo is incomplete
because the brake band is not shown. I basically copied what others have
done before me. I think you can see Simon McCormack's photos on Westcoastpiet.com
to get the complete picture. No, you won't see my airplane at Brodhead this
year. I have encountered some major setbacks due to this economy. I am shooting
for 2010 now.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL
NX929DH
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| Subject: | Re: couple of questions |
Very nice fabric!
walt evans
NX140DL
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Emch" <EmchAir@aol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 5:06 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: couple of questions
>
> Gene,
>
> I ended my aluminum about 6 to 8 inches back from the panel. I have the
> combing on the aluminum and the longerons. It's really nice to be able to
> put all of my weight on the longeron. I have passengers put their weight
> on the front cockpit longerons. With aluminum there it may get crushed.
> Can kinda see it here;
>
> http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Don%20Emch/Brodhead__20070720_092.JPG
>
> Don Emch
> NX899DE
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=231888#231888
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Re Tail dimensions |
How's this?
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re Tail dimensions
Cliff,
I went back and looked at your tail photo. Can't make out anything. We
need a close-up to see what you are talking about.
Dan Helsper
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| Subject: | Re: couple of questions |
By the way... Combing is complements of my wife's old torn leather coat. Had enough
for both cockpits! :D
Don Emch
NX899DE
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| Subject: | Re: Re Tail dimensions/ woodwork |
Sure, Here's three. In the first you see I've filled in
between the turtledeck strips with soft, light balsa
and faired that all in. Also you can see I've covered
the "helmet box" in to the first former and used a
1" X 1" balsa strip to hold the edge. It's 1/16" ply.
The second is the 1/16" ply and balsa covered in
waterbase contact cement. And the third is all glued
down. The bottom edge was subsiquently faired
upwards to the left to meet the quarter" halfround
seen as the dark line under the balsa 1x1.
The reason I did it this way is that I wanted to have
the ply and strips faired into each other without any
bumps and for weight bearing ( hands, bum ) felt
that even 1/8" might not be enough by itself. Also
1/8" and larger would be hard to bend and to fair.
That box might be rather large but my intension is
to store light, bulky things there. There's a lot of
large, open water around here and life vests are
mandatory when crossing unless you can gain
enough altitude to glide to nearest land. Even if
you get to that land it will probably be covered in
200 ft pointy firs and in a lot of places there's no
beach at any tide. Survival gear will be upfront.
Clif
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re Tail dimensions/ woodwork
Cliff,
Very nice woodwork. Just wondering if you could post a few close up
pics of your turtledeck? Would like to see what you have done in that
area.
Brian
SLC
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| Subject: | Re: couple of questions |
That last chunk of leather I worked with came from an old couch.
Part of the joys of scrounging... just open your mind to the possibilities and
you'll find them everywhere.
Jim Ash
-----Original Message-----
>From: Don Emch <EmchAir@aol.com>
>Sent: Feb 24, 2009 8:00 PM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: couple of questions
>
>
>By the way... Combing is complements of my wife's old torn leather coat. Had
enough for both cockpits! :D
>
>Don Emch
>NX899DE
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=231921#231921
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| Subject: | Re: Re Tail dimensions |
Yep. A couple of years ago, at Arlington, I came
across a new two place sport plane, the name of
which escapes me. There were no turnbuckles on
the tail. I couldn't believe that was possible to
do that but there it was. It was explained to me that
adjustment was simply a matter of twisting and
untwisting the wire. So I've done it to see and so far
it's worked. There's a bit of a trick to getting the
tight wires to line up with the holes in the fittings
but if it works out OK when I actually get the thing
flying then I've saved some weight where it's most
important. Like everything we do the proof will be
in the pudding. Right?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Catdesigns" <Catdesigns@att.net>
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 8:14 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Re Tail dimensions
>
> I think that we don't see anything IS the point. I don't see any turn
> buckles.
>
> Chris
>
> --------
> Chris Tracy
> Sacramento, CA
> WestCoastPiet.com
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=231814#231814
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| Subject: | Re: couple of questions |
I went to Good Will and bought a full length leather coat for $3.00 for
redoing mine.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Ash" <ashcan@earthlink.net>
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 7:12 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: couple of questions
>
> That last chunk of leather I worked with came from an old couch.
>
> Part of the joys of scrounging... just open your mind to the possibilities
> and you'll find them everywhere.
>
> Jim Ash
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>>From: Don Emch <EmchAir@aol.com>
>>Sent: Feb 24, 2009 8:00 PM
>>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: couple of questions
>>
>>
>>By the way... Combing is complements of my wife's old torn leather coat.
>>Had enough for both cockpits! :D
>>
>>Don Emch
>>NX899DE
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>>Read this topic online here:
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>>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=231921#231921
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| Subject: | Tail brace wires with turnbuckles (not) |
Cliff,
OK so there are no turnbuckles. Did you just pre-tension everything before squishing
the copper nicopress sleeves?
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL
NX929DH
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| Subject: | 3 Piets on Barnstormers |
Does anybody on this list have any knowledge or experience with the Piets o
n Barnstormers at the moment?
One is in Florida=2C one is in California (forgot the other location) but a
s I look at one of these=2C it looks porker-heavy to me.
Thanks
S. Orville B.
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| Subject: | Re Tail dimensions |
Cliff,
Difficult to see, but I think your shackles look like mine. I'm intrigued by
your twisting-wire technique!!
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, Fuselage ready for gear
(12 ribs down.)
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Clif Dawson
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 4:20 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re Tail dimensions
How's this?
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re Tail dimensions
Cliff,
I went back and looked at your tail photo. Can't make out anything. We need
a close-up to see what you are talking about.
Dan Helsper
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| Subject: | Re: Tail brace wires with turnbuckles (not) |
Yes and no. Once I had the bottom done and squished I
set the tail on two high sawhorses so it was level, weighted
the tailpost with a sandbag and checked everything for straightness. I
had to do a little twisting both left and right
on a couple of wires but that was all. Then I worked on
pulling the top ones tight and holding them with small
industrial U bolt cable clamps. At this point the nicopress
ferules were 5" away from the thimbles. When they were
pushed up tight that added some more tension. I plucked
the wires all round to hear the same note from each,
fiddled a bit to get that note the same then squished the
ferules. I've had it apart twice. It's a bit of a grunt to get
them back on the brackets but doable with a little heavier
weight hanging off the tailpost.
It's all like Lincoln said;
"If I had 8 hours to cut down a tree,,,I'd spend the first 6 sharpening
the axe"
ABE LINCOLN
Clif
----- Original Message -----
From: helspersew@aol.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 5:29 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Tail brace wires with turnbuckles (not)
Cliff,
OK so there are no turnbuckles. Did you just pre-tension everything
before squishing the copper nicopress sleeves?
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL
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| Subject: | Re: Straight axle gear and brakes |
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| Subject: | Re: Mid-Wing Pietenpol |
Well, I've seen a horse fly, and I've seen a house fly, and I've even seen a low-wing
Pietenpol, or at least a picture thereof:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=41853
So a mid-wing Pietenpol seems eminently possible. [Wink]
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Bill Frank
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=231971#231971
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| Subject: | Re: Re Tail dimensions |
Great minds think alike. We won't mention the other
half of that saying, will we. :-)
As you can see I'm using pins instead of bolts.
Clif
----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Boothe
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 6:44 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re Tail dimensions
Cliff,
Difficult to see, but I think your shackles look like mine. I'm
intrigued by your twisting-wire technique!!
Gary Boothe
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| Subject: | Re: Mid-Wing Pietenpol |
Heath did it.
> Well, I've seen a horse fly, and I've seen a house fly, and I've even seen
> a low-wing Pietenpol, or at least a picture thereof:
> So a mid-wing Pietenpol seems eminently possible. [Wink]
>
> --------
> Bill Frank
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