---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 03/05/09: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:01 AM - HINT video #2! (Michael Perez) 2. 06:59 AM - Re: Brodhead 2008 (Michael Silvius) 3. 04:05 PM - Re: control horn attachment (Doug Bowman) 4. 05:49 PM - Re: control horn attachment (shad bell) 5. 06:18 PM - Re: wire wheel weights (Gary Boothe) 6. 06:53 PM - Re: control horn attachment (Richard Schreiber) 7. 07:19 PM - Re: control horn attachment (johnwoods@westnet.com.au) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:01:08 AM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: Pietenpol-List: HINT video #2! My second DVD in my Pietenpol "HINT" series is now available. It is HINT video #2, WINGS. This DVD is 1.5 hrs. long and is $20.00. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:59:03 AM PST US From: "Michael Silvius" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead 2008 Did anyone else spot the Russian Pietenpol under related videos in that link that Pat provided? A Russian Pietenpol flying with a Suzuki engine no less. that has to be a first: http://www.youtube.com/user/VLADIMIRBUGOGA I sent him a note to forward some pix to Chris Tracy so that he may be included in his listing Michael in Maine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Panzera" > > Yeah, but if memory serves, it was giving more rides than the others. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ayQJOybZII > > Pat ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:05:14 PM PST US From: Doug Bowman Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: control horn attachment Rick, Look for an RV builder. They all have the small right angle drills to get into tight places. Doug Bowman - former RV builder doing the Pietenpol thing --- On Wed, 3/4/09, Richard Schreiber wrote: > From: Richard Schreiber > Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: control horn attachment > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Date: Wednesday, March 4, 2009, 6:13 PM > Ed I'm going to check around the airport and see if I > can locate one of these. The ones that I have seen at the > big box stores are almost 5" deep! > > Rick Schreiber > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ed G. > To: piet-list piet-list > Sent: 3/4/2009 5:11:58 PM > Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: control horn attachment > > > Hi Rick Don't know what others have done but I had to > bite the bullet and buy one of the close clearance right > angle drill attachment kits. I bought it through ACS. I > looked at Harbor Freight and other places but couldn't > find anything as short. The kit has short little drills that > screw into the angle head and it's driven by a standard > drill motor.. After buying it I found other places that I > needed it on the wing hardware. It is a nice quality kit but > a little pricey for the amount of use I will get out of it. > Ed G. > > > > From: lmforge@earthlink.net > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Pietenpol-List: control horn attachment > Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 16:47:22 -0600 > > > Guys, > All of my control horns are now made and I'm ready for > the final installation but I'm stumped. The holes are > drilled where the main body of the horns attach. My problem > is trying to figure out how to drill a hole for the > brace(strut) to attach. There isn't enough clearance to > get a 3/16 drill in the space. This is especially true on > the ailerons. I've only got about 3-1/2 inches of > clearance, not even enough for a right angle drill. Did you > just drill the hole with a flexible long shaft drill and let > the hole penetrate at an angle? > > Rick Schreiber > > > > > > st">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > ronics.com > ww.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:49:48 PM PST US From: shad bell Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: control horn attachment Look on ebay, I had to buy a 90 deg airdrill for some things on my Jungster .- I bought an old surpluss Ingasol Rand (Spelling?)-- Aviation 90 de g threaded drill from a guy in GA.- I believe it is old Gulfstream toolin g.- I got it for $70, they sell new for 500 plus.- I can't complain, fo r the 2 dozzen holes I need it for it is well worth the 70 dollars, much ch eaper than paying someone to build the parts for me.- The good thing for me is I already had access to the threaded drill bits in my tool box at wor k. Shad=0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:18:53 PM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: wire wheel weights For what it's worth, my HD Sportster 21" 40 spoke wheels, with tire, tube and bearings, weigh 25.6 lbs each. Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion Tail done, Fuselage ready for gear (13 ribs down.) _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 11:55 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: wire wheel weights Not sure what my wire wheels weigh but they are 19" aluminum alloy rims. >From the Flyboys airplane manufacturer he says a pair of his kit wheels combined weigh 36 pounds. I suspect mine are lighter as Robert uses what appears to be chromed steel rims. For photos of Airdrome Aeroplane's wire wheel kit see: http://www.airdromeairplanes.com/HeavyDutyWheels.html Two welded hubs sell for $195 per pair and have a larger inside hub with a bolt hole pattern for a brake. Wheel kits ready to be laced with 2 tires, 2 tubes and 2 bearing sets sell for $495. This also includes a step-by-step detailed video. The weight of 2 hubs is "about" 2 lbs. (We couldn't get them to register on a digital scale.) The weight of ONE wheel complete with tire and tube is 18 lbs. So, two COMPLETE wheels will weigh 36 lbs. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:53:05 PM PST US From: "Richard Schreiber" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: control horn attachment Doug B, John W and Ed G, Some time ago I made up a set of drill guides ala Clif Dawson and used them a lot. I originally thought of using them to drill the control horn supports, but it didn't look like they would fit. After John W's suggestion I tried again and they worked fine. I just had to locate the front and back sides with a punch mark and drill from the back side. I used my el cheepo long shank drill bits from harbor freight. I did have to bow the drill a little, but it worked fine. I actually finished drilling the last control surface about 10 minutes ago. Rick Schreiber > [Original Message] > From: Doug Bowman > To: ; > Date: 3/5/2009 6:07:37 PM > Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: control horn attachment > > > > Rick, > > Look for an RV builder. They all have the small right angle drills to get into tight places. > > Doug Bowman - former RV builder doing the Pietenpol thing > > > > Guys, > > All of my control horns are now made and I'm ready for > > the final installation but I'm stumped. The holes are > > drilled where the main body of the horns attach. My problem > > is trying to figure out how to drill a hole for the > > brace(strut) to attach. There isn't enough clearance to > > get a 3/16 drill in the space. This is especially true on > > the ailerons. I've only got about 3-1/2 inches of > > clearance, not even enough for a right angle drill. Did you > > just drill the hole with a flexible long shaft drill and let > > the hole penetrate at an angle? > > > > Rick Schreiber ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:19:40 PM PST US From: johnwoods@westnet.com.au Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: control horn attachment Glad to help Rick. JohnW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Schreiber" Sent: Friday, 6 March, 2009 11:52:16 AM GMT +08:00 Perth Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: control horn attachment Doug B, John W and Ed G, Some time ago I made up a set of drill guides ala Clif Dawson and used them a lot. I originally thought of using them to drill the control horn supports, but it didn't look like they would fit. After John W's suggestion I tried again and they worked fine. I just had to locate the front and back sides with a punch mark and drill from the back side. I used my el cheepo long shank drill bits from harbor freight. I did have to bow the drill a little, but it worked fine. I actually finished drilling the last control surface about 10 minutes ago. 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