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     1. 05:53 AM - Re: 80th Anniversary fly-in (amsafetyc@aol.com)
     2. 06:42 AM - Re: 80th Anniversary fly-in (Ryan Mueller)
     3. 07:23 AM - Re: 80th Anniversary fly-in (shad bell)
     4. 07:38 AM - Re: 80th Anniversary fly-in (Gary Boothe)
     5. 08:35 AM - Re: 80th Anniversary fly-in (John Hofmann)
     6. 09:25 AM - Re: 80th Anniversary fly-in (Jeff Boatright)
     7. 09:35 AM - Re: 80th Anniversary fly-in (Jeff Boatright)
     8. 01:48 PM - "Propeller Carving, The All Power-Tool Method" How TO CD now available (helspersew@aol.com)
     9. 05:04 PM - Re: 80th Anniversary fly-in (Richard Schreiber)
    10. 11:28 PM - Re: HINT video #2! (carson)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Re: 80th Anniversary fly-in | 
      
      The airport at Juneau is Dodge County Airport. Never flown in there; just
      driven past a few times. Here's a few links to information about the
      airport:
      
      The County's page: http://www.co.dodge.wi.us/airport/
      Wisconsin Aviation runs the FBO; there's a contact number at the bottom of
      the page. Point #4 on the page says: "In late July during * EAA=92s
      AirVenture<http://www.airventure.org/>
      *, it is not uncommon to see an additional fifty to one hundred aircraft on
      our ramp or parked in the surrounding grass". Depending upon where they put
      the overflow, that could affect whether or not they allow landing next to
      the hard surface runways.
      
      AirNav page about the airport: http://www.airnav.com/airport/KUNU
      If you scroll down and look on the right there is a small pic linking to th
      e
      sectional chart for the area via Skyvector.com
      
      Airport overview from WisDOT:
      http://www.dot.wisconsin.gov/travel/air/docs/airports/juneau.pdf
      
      Finally, if you want to us a mapping site to look at the airport, go to
      http://maps.live.com, Mapquest, or Yahoo Maps. Search for Juneau, WI, and
      the airport is just north of town. Those three sites will allow you to get 
      a
      good close-up overhead color view of the airport. Google Maps has no good
      imagery for the area.
      
      Ryan
      
      On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 9:34 PM, gcardinal <gcardinal@comcast.net> wrote:
      
      >  *Thanks for posting the link Mike.*
      > **
      > *Oshkosh is only 4 1/2 months away and here is how things are shaping
      > up for this years 80th anniversary:*
      > **
      > *Brodhead is being scheduled and promoted as Thursday through Saturday,
      > July 23 - 25.*
      > **
      > *On Sunday, July 26th we depart Brodhead and fly to an airport close to
      > Oshkosh to make arrival arrangements with OSH tower. Juneau, WI (UNU) is
      > looking like a strong possibility because it is close and it is a straigh
      t
      > flight up highway 26 to Oshkosh.*
      > **
      > *Small groups of 4 - 5 planes, with a radio equipped flight leader, will
      > depart UNU for Oshkosh via the Fisk arrival route.*
      > *Tailskid equipped Pietenpols will use the ultralight arrival procedure.*
      > **
      > *The 2009 Oshkosh NOTAM will be available in April or May. A link will be
      > posted when it becomes available.*
      > **
      > *Some questions for everyone:*
      > **
      > *1. Who is planning to fly their Piet to Oshkosh?*
      > *2. Who is radio equipped and willing to act as a group leader on the
      > flight to OSH?*
      > *3. Who is planning to drive from Brodhead to OSH and would be willing to
      > haul camping gear and baggage?*
      > **
      > *If you know someone with a Pietenpol who isn't on this list please
      > encourage them to consider attending.*
      > *Don Emch - can you contact Frank Pavliga to see if he is willing to
      > attend?*
      > **
      > *John Hoffman or Roman Bukolt - you guys live in the area, what can you
      > tell us about the Juneau airport? Most importantly, is the grass adjacent
       to
      > the runways suitable for landing during the summer months? *
      > **
      > *This should be enough to get the conversations started.*
      > *If anyone wants to contact me directly I can be reached at 612 721-6235
      > evenings or gcardinal@comcast.net*
      > **
      > *Ideas and suggestions are encouraged. *
      > **
      > *Greg Cardinal*
      > **
      >
      
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| Subject:  | Re: 80th Anniversary fly-in | 
      
      
      I paln on flying up to Brodhead and Oshkosh this year.- We have a handhel
      d, and I might be able to be a flight leader.- I have never flown into th
      e bees nest of Oshkosh before so I will ask the experianced veterans as to 
      weather or not I should lead.- Discretion is the better part of valor, I'
      ve heard.- I also might add I do not, will not have a GPS, so if that is 
      a concern, or one of you gps equipped old time piets want to lead, I will b
      e glad to follow as well.- As long as we get there safe, in one piece, an
      d dont get run over, cut off, and cussed at-by some throttle jockky in an
       RV, all is well, (which can, does and has hapened to me in a piet before).
      -
      Shad
      NX92GB=0A=0A=0A      
      
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| Subject:  | 80th Anniversary fly-in | 
      
      Shad,
      
      
      I would pay $100, to get cussed at by some RV throttle jockey today!! 
      
      
      Gary Boothe
      
      Cool, Ca.
      
      Pietenpol
      
      WW Corvair Conversion
      
      Tail done, Fuselage ready for gear
      
      (13 ribs down.)
      
      Do not archive
      
        _____  
      
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of shad bell
      Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 7:23 AM
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 80th Anniversary fly-in
      
      
      I paln on flying up to Brodhead and Oshkosh this year.  We have a handheld,
      and I might be able to be a flight leader.  I have never flown into the bees
      nest of Oshkosh before so I will ask the experianced veterans as to weather
      or not I should lead.  Discretion is the better part of valor, I've heard.
      I also might add I do not, will not have a GPS, so if that is a concern, or
      one of you gps equipped old time piets want to lead, I will be glad to
      follow as well.  As long as we get there safe, in one piece, and dont get
      run over, cut off, and cussed at by some throttle jockky in an RV, all is
      well, (which can, does and has hapened to me in a piet before).
      
      
      Shad
      
      NX92GB
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: 80th Anniversary fly-in | 
      
      Juneau gets real busy the Sunday before OSH. I know a lot of people  
      stop there and are treated well, however since there is some  
      strategery involved here I would suggest Hartford (HXF) as an  
      alternative.  It is 14.1 nm on the 110 radial from UNU. Runway 18/36  
      is 2000 x 200 grass with good approaches and 11/29 is just shy of 3000  
      with useable grass on the North side of the runway. There is 24 hour  
      credit card fuel (100LL and still 93 stinky car gas) and it is home of  
      the Cub Club so there are lots of taildraggers (18 or so Cubs based  
      there) and there would be less congestion than UNU. Either choice  
      would probably be fine but I have a bias to Hartford as that is where  
      I am based. I can do some followup with Steve Krog if anyone is  
      interested. Steve E and Mikee, you used Hartford as the gathering  
      point in 1999 I think?
      
      -john-
      
      John Hofmann
      Vice-President, Information Technology
      The Rees Group, Inc.
      2810 Crossroads Drive, Ste 3800
      Madison, WI 53718
      Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
      Fax: 608.443.2474
      Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
      
      On Mar 6, 2009, at 9:34 PM, gcardinal wrote:
      
      > Thanks for posting the link Mike.
      >
      > Oshkosh is only 4 1/2 months away and here is how things are shaping  
      > up for this years 80th anniversary:
      >
      > Brodhead is being scheduled and promoted as Thursday through  
      > Saturday, July 23 - 25.
      >
      > On Sunday, July 26th we depart Brodhead and fly to an airport close  
      > to Oshkosh to make arrival arrangements with OSH tower. Juneau, WI  
      > (UNU) is looking like a strong possibility because it is close and  
      > it is a straight flight up highway 26 to Oshkosh.
      >
      > Small groups of 4 - 5 planes, with a radio equipped flight leader,  
      > will depart UNU for Oshkosh via the Fisk arrival route.
      > Tailskid equipped Pietenpols will use the ultralight arrival  
      > procedure.
      >
      > The 2009 Oshkosh NOTAM will be available in April or May. A link  
      > will be posted when it becomes available.
      >
      > Some questions for everyone:
      >
      > 1. Who is planning to fly their Piet to Oshkosh?
      > 2. Who is radio equipped and willing to act as a group leader on the  
      > flight to OSH?
      > 3. Who is planning to drive from Brodhead to OSH and would be  
      > willing to haul camping gear and baggage?
      >
      > If you know someone with a Pietenpol who isn't on this list please  
      > encourage them to consider attending.
      > Don Emch - can you contact Frank Pavliga to see if he is willing to  
      > attend?
      >
      > John Hoffman or Roman Bukolt - you guys live in the area, what can  
      > you tell us about the Juneau airport? Most importantly, is the grass  
      > adjacent to the runways suitable for landing during the summer months?
      >
      > This should be enough to get the conversations started.
      > If anyone wants to contact me directly I can be reached at 612  
      > 721-6235 evenings or gcardinal@comcast.net
      >
      > Ideas and suggestions are encouraged.
      >
      > Greg Cardinal
      >
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]
      > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      > Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 7:17 AM
      > Subject: Pietenpol-List: If you are flying into OSH.....read this  
      > when you get a chance
      >
      >
      > For those of you who are planning to fly into Oshkosh for the 80th  
      > Anniversary gathering you've read the notes in Doc Mosher's paper  
      > BPAN Newsletter penned by Bill Rewey but here is another great  
      > introduction/familiarization article entitled:  Understanding Air  
      > Traffic Control at EAA AirVenture Oshkosh.
      >
      > To read more: http://www.airventure.org/atc/
      >
      >
      > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
      > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
      > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http:// 
      > www.matronics.com/c
      >
      >
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: 80th Anniversary fly-in | 
      
      
      Greg,
      
      We plan to fly our Piet up from Atlanta. We have a radio.
      
      Jeff
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      Associate Professor of Ophthalmology
      Emory University School of Medicine
      Editor-in-Chief
      Molecular Vision
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: 80th Anniversary fly-in | 
      
      
      My original flight plan for 2GA9 to OSH had HXF as the "regroup and 
      make final" stop prior to going to OSH. I had not, however, 
      considered the impact of the OSH NOTAM arrival procedures.
      
      John, is there a conflict with using HXF in terms of the NOTAM?
      
      Thanks,
      
      Jeff
      
      
      >Juneau gets real busy the Sunday before OSH. I know a lot of people 
      >stop there and are treated well, however since there is some 
      >strategery involved here I would suggest Hartford (HXF) as an 
      >alternative.  It is 14.1 nm on the 110 radial from UNU. Runway 18/36 
      >is 2000 x 200 grass with good approaches and 11/29 is just shy of 
      >3000 with useable grass on the North side of the runway. There is 24 
      >hour credit card fuel (100LL and still 93 stinky car gas) and it is 
      >home of the Cub Club so there are lots of taildraggers (18 or so 
      >Cubs based there) and there would be less congestion than UNU. 
      >Either choice would probably be fine but I have a bias to Hartford 
      >as that is where I am based. I can do some followup with Steve Krog 
      >if anyone is interested. Steve E and Mikee, you used Hartford as the 
      >gathering point in 1999 I think?
      >
      >-john-
      
      
      -- 
      ---
      
      Jeffrey H. Boatright, Ph.D.
      Associate Professor of Ophthalmology
      Emory University School of Medicine
      Editor-in-Chief
      Molecular Vision
      
      
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| Subject:  | "Propeller Carving, The All Power-Tool Method"  How TO | 
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      I have flown into Oshkosh form both Hartford and Dodge Co. and I think Hartford
      would be the better bet. The Short Wing Piper Club uses Hartford as our staging
      area, before our mass arrival into OSH.  Last year I flew  my Tripacer to Brodhead
      and then returned to NW Indiana for a few days before returning to OSH.
      On my way to OSH I had to divert due to a fatal accident that closed OSH, so
      I diverted to Dodge Co. Dodge Co. was a nice and friendly airport, but it was
      busy. It is more congested than Hartford. In my opinion, Hartford is a more laid
      back and accommodating field.
      
      Rick Schreiber
      
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: John Hofmann 
      Sent: 3/7/2009 10:37:59 AM 
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 80th Anniversary fly-in
      
      
      Juneau gets real busy the Sunday before OSH. I know a lot of people stop there
      and are treated well, however since there is some strategery involved here I would
      suggest Hartford (HXF) as an alternative.  It is 14.1 nm on the 110 radial
      from UNU. Runway 18/36 is 2000 x 200 grass with good approaches and 11/29 is
      just shy of 3000 with useable grass on the North side of the runway. There is
      24 hour credit card fuel (100LL and still 93 stinky car gas) and it is home of
      the Cub Club so there are lots of taildraggers (18 or so Cubs based there) and
      there would be less congestion than UNU. Either choice would probably be fine
      but I have a bias to Hartford as that is where I am based. I can do some followup
      with Steve Krog if anyone is interested. Steve E and Mikee, you used Hartford
      as the gathering point in 1999 I think?
      
      
      -john-
      
      
      John Hofmann
      Vice-President, Information Technology
      The Rees Group, Inc.
      2810 Crossroads Drive, Ste 3800
      Madison, WI 53718
      Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
      Fax: 608.443.2474
      Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
      
      
      On Mar 6, 2009, at 9:34 PM, gcardinal wrote:
      
      
      Thanks for posting the link Mike.
      
      Oshkosh is only 4 1/2 months away and here is how things are shaping up for this
      years 80th anniversary:
      
      Brodhead is being scheduled and promoted as Thursday through Saturday, July 23
      - 25.
      
      On Sunday, July 26th we depart Brodhead and fly to an airport close to Oshkosh
      to make arrival arrangements with OSH tower. Juneau, WI (UNU) is looking like
      a strong possibility because it is close and it is a straight flight up highway
      26 to Oshkosh.
      
      Small groups of 4 - 5 planes, with a radio equipped flight leader, will depart
      UNU for Oshkosh via the Fisk arrival route.
      Tailskid equipped Pietenpols will use the ultralight arrival procedure.
      
      The 2009 Oshkosh NOTAM will be available in April or May. A link will be posted
      when it becomes available.
      
      Some questions for everyone:
      
      1. Who is planning to fly their Piet to Oshkosh?
      2. Who is radio equipped and willing to act as a group leader on the flight to
      OSH?
      3. Who is planning to drive from Brodhead to OSH and would be willing to haul camping
      gear and baggage?
      
      If you know someone with a Pietenpol who isn't on this list please encourage them
      to consider attending.
      Don Emch - can you contact Frank Pavliga to see if he is willing to attend?
      
      John Hoffman or Roman Bukolt - you guys live in the area, what can you tell us
      about the Juneau airport? Most importantly, is the grass adjacent to the runways
      suitable for landing during the summer months?
      
      This should be enough to get the conversations started.
      If anyone wants to contact me directly I can be reached at 612 721-6235 evenings
      or gcardinal@comcast.net
      
      Ideas and suggestions are encouraged.
      
      Greg Cardinal
      
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]
      Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 7:17 AM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: If you are flying into OSH.....read this when you get
      a chance
      
      
      For those of you who are planning to fly into Oshkosh for the 80th Anniversary
      gathering you've read the notes in Doc Mosher's paper BPAN Newsletter penned by
      Bill Rewey but here is another great introduction/familiarization article entitled:
      Understanding Air Traffic Control at EAA AirVenture Oshkosh.
      
      To read more: http://www.airventure.org/atc/
      
      
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      do you have an email address
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