---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 03/11/09: 9 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:40 AM - Making own graphics (Michael Perez) 2. 10:50 AM - Frank Pavliga's Piet/ Barnstorming documentary (Oscar Zuniga) 3. 12:45 PM - Jean Fly-in (Patrick Panzera) 4. 03:22 PM - Re: Making own graphics (Ryan Mueller) 5. 04:05 PM - Re: Making own graphics (Michael Perez) 6. 08:06 PM - Re: Vertical stab and rudder dimensions (JimP) 7. 08:22 PM - Re: Re: Vertical stab and rudder dimensions (Gary Boothe) 8. 08:24 PM - Re: Vertical stab and rudder dimensions (Glenn Thomas) 9. 08:34 PM - Re: Re: Vertical stab and rudder dimensions (gcardinal) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:40:50 AM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: Pietenpol-List: Making own graphics For those of you who have your own design graphics on your plane...did you make them yourself? I have my design ready and I am curious if I can make them myself at home. I would hope it is just a matter of buying the right type of "paper" to print on. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 10:50:56 AM PST US From: Oscar Zuniga Subject: Pietenpol-List: Frank Pavliga's Piet/ Barnstorming documentary Here in Texas=2C we consider the midwest to be the area around San Angelo. When someone here says "go west"=2C they mean El Paso. I won't tell you what they think the mideast is=2C other than a constant mess. Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC San Antonio=2C TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 12:45:06 PM PST US From: "Patrick Panzera" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Jean Fly-in Just a reminder, The 6th Annual Alternative Engine Round-Up and Experimental Aircraft Fly-in, is about 2.5 weeks away. Jean, Nevada (just south of Vegas) March 27-29 http://www.contactmagazine.com/roundup.html Thanks! Pat ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 03:22:51 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Making own graphics From: Ryan Mueller Michael, Mike C., Jack P., Oscar, and I'm sure others have had their graphics produced from vinyl by a company out of Michigan called "AvGrafix": http://www.avgrafix.com/index.html There are pics of Mike and Jack's Piets under the "Custom Graphics" section of the site. I'm sure they can provide more details about cost. I can't recall having heard about any particular method for printing graphics from a consumer inkjet printer that would produce something suitable for this application. Either way, if you could produce something on your home printer it would have to be approximately 8" tall or smaller, and unless you could find media on a roll it could be no wider than approximately 10.5".... Ryan On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Michael Perez wrote: > For those of you who have your own design graphics on your plane...did you > make them yourself? I have my design ready and I am curious if I can make > them myself at home. I would hope it is just a matter of buying the right > type of "paper" to print on. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 04:05:23 PM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Making own graphics I am aware of AvGrafix as well as a ton of others who CAN do it, that is wh y I asked if anyone made there own. I have found some ink jet compatible vi nyl- that is self adhesive and waterproof for exterior use. It is recomme nded that this get covered with a UV laminate after application. Check it: http://www.papilio.com/inkjet%20waterproof%20adhesive%20film%20media.html - --- On Wed, 3/11/09, Ryan Mueller wrote: From: Ryan Mueller Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Making own graphics Michael, Mike C., Jack P., Oscar, and I'm sure others have had their graphics produc ed from vinyl by a company out of Michigan called "AvGrafix": http://www.avgrafix.com/index.html There are pics of Mike and Jack's Piets under the "Custom Graphics" section of the site. I'm sure they can provide more details about cost. I can't re call having heard about any particular method for printing graphics from a consumer inkjet printer that would produce something suitable for this appl ication. Either way, if you could produce something on your home printer it would have to be approximately 8" tall or smaller, and unless you could fi nd media on a roll it could be no wider than approximately 10.5".... Ryan On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Michael Perez wrote: For those of you who have your own design graphics on your plane...did you make them yourself? I have my design ready and I am curious if I can make t hem myself at home. I would hope it is just a matter of buying the right ty pe of "paper" to print on. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:06:48 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Vertical stab and rudder dimensions From: "JimP" Glenn and Jim Q., along the same note: I've been trying to figure out how to fair the 3/16" x 1/2" strips into the trailing edges. The glue "ledge" in the trailing edge is only 1/16" deep. It seems like I will need to remove too much material from the strips (please see attached sketch). I'm curious how others have handled this situation? JimP. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=234304#234304 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/pietenpol_trailing_edge_question_423.jpg ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:22:55 PM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Vertical stab and rudder dimensions Jim, Just clamp the pieces down and sand or file back about 3 or 4". Those pieces have little to do with strength, and are mostly about shape. Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion Tail done, Fuselage ready for gear (13 ribs down.) -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of JimP Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 8:06 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Vertical stab and rudder dimensions Glenn and Jim Q., along the same note: I've been trying to figure out how to fair the 3/16" x 1/2" strips into the trailing edges. The glue "ledge" in the trailing edge is only 1/16" deep. It seems like I will need to remove too much material from the strips (please see attached sketch). I'm curious how others have handled this situation? JimP. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=234304#234304 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/pietenpol_trailing_edge_question_423.jpg ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:24:27 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Vertical stab and rudder dimensions From: "Glenn Thomas" I agree with you and had the same concerns. I cut my rabbet 1/8" deep which helps sink the capstrip pieces. Also, I put spacers between the capstrips so if it is weakened slightly at the very tip, the spacers (pieces of capstrip keeping the fore/aft pieces from squeezing together during rib stitching) add a bit of strength. It seems adequately strong despite the thinning of the tips at the points where the meet the spars they attach to. I'm interested in hearing what others might say. -------- Glenn Thomas N????? http://www.flyingwood.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=234308#234308 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:34:18 PM PST US From: "gcardinal" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Vertical stab and rudder dimensions On NX18235 it was done exactly as your drawing shows. No problems after 150 hours. Greg Cardinal ----- Original Message ----- From: "JimP" Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 10:05 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Vertical stab and rudder dimensions > > Glenn and Jim Q., along the same note: > I've been trying to figure out how to fair the 3/16" x 1/2" strips into > the trailing edges. The glue "ledge" in the trailing edge is only 1/16" > deep. It seems like I will need to remove too much material from the > strips (please see attached sketch). > I'm curious how others have handled this situation? > JimP. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=234304#234304 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/pietenpol_trailing_edge_question_423.jpg > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.