---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 03/14/09: 16 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:09 AM - Re: Waldo Pepper DVD (amsafetyc@aol.com) 2. 07:09 AM - Re: Making own graphics (Glenn Thomas) 3. 07:14 AM - Re: Making own graphics (Glenn Thomas) 4. 07:34 AM - Re: Re: Making own graphics (amsafetyc@aol.com) 5. 07:41 AM - Re: Making own graphics (Glenn Thomas) 6. 01:21 PM - manuals for free download (Bill Church) 7. 02:43 PM - Re: manuals for free download (Gene & Tammy) 8. 02:59 PM - Re: manuals for free download (RAMPEYBOY@aol.com) 9. 04:04 PM - 2 Projects for sale (Kirk Huizenga) 10. 05:58 PM - Re: manuals for free download (Rob Stapleton, Jr.) 11. 06:25 PM - Stuck Value (Chet's Mail) 12. 07:25 PM - Re: manuals for free download (amsafetyc@aol.com) 13. 07:57 PM - Hay Field fly-in Winchester IN (shad bell) 14. 08:20 PM - Airport is in trouble!! (shad bell) 15. 10:34 PM - Re: Airport is in trouble!! (Tim Willis) 16. 10:38 PM - Re: Airport is in trouble!! (Ryan Mueller) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:09:30 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Waldo Pepper DVD From: amsafetyc@aol.com Walt Mine got damaged I could use a new one. Please advise. Thanks John ------Original Message------ From: walt Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com ReplyTo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Mar 13, 2009 6:25 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Waldo Pepper DVD Douwe, I have the vid If you'd like it. No charge. Kind of annoys me, I sent it to someone on this group by snail mail, and they didn't acknowledge it. Even when I emailed to see if they got it,,,no response. People stink. PS let me know if you want it, and give me a snail mail address. email me here,,, wbeevans@verizon.net walt evans NX140DL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douwe Blumberg" Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 4:40 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Waldo Pepper DVD > > > Back when Waldo was a daily hot topic, someone said they had some "extras" > they were going to sell affordably. If that ever came to pass, would the > gentleman contact me because I still can't seem to find one. > > Thanks, > > Douwe > > finishing cockpits, hooking up instruments, getting ready to paint fuse. > 90% done, 90% left to go! > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:09:43 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Making own graphics From: "Glenn Thomas" Do you know if they make a hand type thing, like a pizza cutter style pounce wheel? If they do I imagine they would be fairly cheap, you could lay your graphic out on a table over a big piece of paper and just trace the lines with the pizza cutter pounce wheel pressing the spikes through your graphic and the paper underneath. You're right. The sign guys do use chalk. I forgot. I'm not a sign guy. -------- Glenn Thomas N????? http://www.flyingwood.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=234546#234546 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:14:01 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Making own graphics From: "Glenn Thomas" Nevermind. I Googled it and found one instantly. This kit contains the pizza cutter pounce wheel, the chalk, and a pounce pad and a description of how it all works. I imagine I will use this some day so might just buy one of these now and have it to play with. Way too far from the end to even think about tormenting myself with logos. -------- Glenn Thomas N????? http://www.flyingwood.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=234547#234547 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:34:26 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Making own graphics From: amsafetyc@aol.com I was thinking a bit more high tech actually. More like a power point projector or transparency to project the image against the Piet. Then its paint by numbers. The good part is only drawing and the projection size can be adjusted to taste and or style. No contamination of the work area by chalk or other foreign matter. John ------Original Message------ From: Glenn Thomas Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com ReplyTo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Mar 14, 2009 10:13 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Making own graphics Nevermind. I Googled it and found one instantly. This kit contains the pizza cutter pounce wheel, the chalk, and a pounce pad and a description of how it all works. I imagine I will use this some day so might just buy one of these now and have it to play with. Way too far from the end to even think about tormenting myself with logos. -------- Glenn Thomas N????? http://www.flyingwood.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=234547#234547 Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:41:04 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Making own graphics From: "Glenn Thomas" I met a guy down in TN who proclaimed that he is in the Guiness Book of World Records for making the world's largest sign. He did it the way you describe with a projector and scaffolding on a huge wall. ...but let's face it, these aren't structural glue joints. I think chalk and paint get along just fine. -------- Glenn Thomas N????? http://www.flyingwood.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=234549#234549 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:21:45 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: manuals for free download From: "Bill Church" Just stumbled across a link on the Flybaby website that is likely of interest to Pietenpol builders who are using traditional aircraft engines for their powerplants. This site has lots of manuals for Continental and Lycoming engines, as well as accessories and lots of other good stuff. And they're all free downloads. Here's the link: http://www.bomar.biz/download.php Bill C. ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 02:43:26 PM PST US From: "Gene & Tammy" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: manuals for free download Bill, I'll go one step further, I think Pietenpol builders and flyers are missing out if they don't use the FlyBaby site. Good info thru out. Gene in wet Tennessee ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Church To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 3:20 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: manuals for free download Just stumbled across a link on the Flybaby website that is likely of interest to Pietenpol builders who are using traditional aircraft engines for their powerplants. This site has lots of manuals for Continental and Lycoming engines, as well as accessories and lots of other good stuff. And they're all free downloads. Here's the link: http://www.bomar.biz/download.php Bill C. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Checked by AVG. 3/14/2009 6:54 AM ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 02:59:02 PM PST US From: RAMPEYBOY@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: manuals for free download wonderful resource! ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 04:04:39 PM PST US From: Kirk Huizenga Subject: Pietenpol-List: 2 Projects for sale Greetings all, I have decided to attempt selling my two projects because of a job change and lack of time/space. I just put it on Craigslist locally, but wanted to let the list know also before doing a Barnstormers listing. Pictures and info can be found at http://mykitplane.com/planes/photoGalleryIndividualList.cfm?PeopleID=77&FirstName=Kirk&LastName=Huizenga Inventory - http://mykitplane.com/Planes/PeoplesFiles/Kirk-Piet-Inventory.xlsx (this doesn't have everything) I also need to get all my Corvair case numbers listed http://aircamperman.wordpress.com/ Craigslist - http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/rvs/1075147858.html You are all welcome to ask any questions - here is some generic info > I am a member of the the Matronics Piet list and have been > a builder for about 8 years. I currently own 2 Aircamper > projects - #1 was built in the 80's, flew for a while > and then donated to a aviation tech school. It was owned by > the the Air National Guard Museum at MSP for a while and I > bought it from the EAA Chapter 21 (Lake Elmo) in '00 or > '01 as a parts project and have worked on it since then. > #2 was purchased in '06 from Carl L who used to be on > the Piet list. #1 has very good craftsmanship from the > first builder (named Hans Meyer of MN) and hopefully me. #2 > needs more work and doesn't have great craftsmanship > (lots of good modifiable parts though). > > I used to be a teacher and used these planes in my > classroom- now I'm a pastor and haven't been able to > put much time into building. > > I have pretty much all you would need to complete 1.5 > planes - hardware, instruments, 5+ Corvair engine cores (of > varying usability in a plane) and a load of parts to go with > them. I am working on an inventory right now. Thanks Kirk St Paul, MN 651-774-5916 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 05:58:46 PM PST US From: "Rob Stapleton, Jr." Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: manuals for free download Has anyone ever written a "How To" manual for the Pietenpol Air Camper? Also I am looking for a set of Aerial Pietenpol plans if anyone knows how or where please contact me off line. Rob Stapleton, Photojournalist Anchorage, Alaska 907-230-9425 KL2AN Skype:rob.stapleton.jr IM Windows Live Messenger: foto@alaska.net Email:foto@alaska.net www.alaskafoto.com www.alaskasportpilotcenter.net -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Church Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 12:21 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: manuals for free download Just stumbled across a link on the Flybaby website that is likely of interest to Pietenpol builders who are using traditional aircraft engines for their powerplants. This site has lots of manuals for Continental and Lycoming engines, as well as accessories and lots of other good stuff. And they're all free downloads. Here's the link: http://www.bomar.biz/download.php Bill C. ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 06:25:10 PM PST US From: "Chet's Mail" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Stuck Value Piets with the Model A engine, what is everyone using to keep values from sticking? 920Y was airborne today for one hour after about 4 hours working to unstick a exhaust value. I run 100LL and have been adding Marvel Mistery oil in the fuel, but the question is how much? Sure glad to see spring coming. 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Shad, I just sent you per your personal email a 14-step outline of what you might do to stop the pole line. After you have read it, if you want to discuss, call me at 512.864.4158 (mobile). Tim in central TX do not archive ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 10:38:23 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Airport is in trouble!! From: Ryan Mueller Shad, Contacting both EAA and AOPA certainly cannot hurt. I don't know offhand who at EAA you would contact. If nothing else, try the general switchboard and see if they know who to put you in touch with regarding airport advocacy (if there is such a person). AOPA has numerous Regional Affairs representatives. Ohio falls under the "Eastern Region", and the listed rep for the Eastern Region is a gentleman by the name of Gregory Winton. The contact info listed for him is an email address: greg.winton@aopa.org. Based on what I see on AOPA Online, that would seem to be the most logical initial point-of-contact that I could find. Good luck fighting the good fight! Ryan On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 10:19 PM, shad bell wrote: > To all recieving this email, > My name is Shad Bell, and this email is sent to all aviation enthusiast I > know. I live on a grass airport community in central Ohio and the power > company (Consolidated Electric Co-Op) is trying to run 70+ ft power lines > directly over the top of the runway thresh hold. After being notified of > this problem by the airport (runway) owner , I believe he said other than > right of way by the township there is no easement yet for the side of my > property or the runway ( I live on a corner lot and the runway comes out to > the side street). This will effectivly shorten our runway about 1/3 from > 3000 to 2000 ft. With no warning I have survey steaks and pins driven in my > yard and back accross the runway. To all of you who have any experiance > with this "Bully the small guy" stuff I am looking for advise on stoping the > power company from destroying this airport. Eventually someone is going to > get killed from hitting a electric line 70 ft above a runway here, (or > nobody will be able to fly out of here anymore) . Is there any hope of > stoping this from happening. Should I contact EAA, and can they help, > AOPA? This airport has been here for 30+ years and now it looks like some > a--hole with $$$$$ is going to tell me too bad so sad, and thanks for paying > your electric bill on time every month. Please feel free to let me know any > and all options we can fight this with. > > Sincerly, Shad Bell > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.