---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 04/03/09: 15 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:10 AM - wood gear question (Oscar Zuniga) 2. 06:13 AM - Re: Riblett Airfoil (ALAN LYSCARS) 3. 08:43 AM - Re: Riblett Airfoil (Michael Perez) 4. 01:35 PM - Fuselage building question (chase143) 5. 01:47 PM - Re: Fuselage building question (Rick Holland) 6. 01:58 PM - Re: wood gear question (gcardinal@comcast.net) 7. 02:34 PM - Re: turnbuckle cable ends (Richard Schreiber) 8. 03:05 PM - Re: wood gear question (Dale Johnson) 9. 03:36 PM - Re: Fuselage building question (chase143) 10. 07:33 PM - Brodhead/Oshkosh 2009 (Oscar Zuniga) 11. 07:58 PM - Re: Brodhead/Oshkosh 2009 (Ernie Moreno) 12. 08:14 PM - Re: Brodhead/Oshkosh 2009 (gcardinal) 13. 08:17 PM - Re: Brodhead/Oshkosh 2009 (Jim Markle) 14. 09:00 PM - Re: Brodhead/Oshkosh 2009 (Isablcorky@aol.com) 15. 09:11 PM - piets for sale (Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:10:39 AM PST US From: Oscar Zuniga Subject: Pietenpol-List: wood gear question Greg=3B in the picture you posted=2C I assume the airplane was in some sort of dry fit-up and not in airworthy condition at the time since it looks li ke the bolt that holds the lower end of the lift strut to the fuselage atta ch fitting is not secured. I also see that there is a castellated nut on t hat bolt and wonder if you used a nylock there in the final installation? I love the color=2C fit=2C and finish of your airplane. Very sanitary. Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC San Antonio=2C TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:13:43 AM PST US From: "ALAN LYSCARS" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Riblett Airfoil Michael, Bill, and Ryan, My sincerest thanks go out to you Fellows. It's hard for me to imagine how much more difficult (time consuming) it must have been for those plans building guys in the '60s to collaborate. I really hope that this plans-built stuff is not a dying art. Truly, Al Lyscars Manchester, NH Jigging the Riblett for GN-1 ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Perez To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 11:15 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Riblett Airfoil I agree with Ryan, Al. You use the same rib jig for all the ribs. The only difference are the extra cap strip pieces that are shown on the Riblett plan as well as the Pietenpol plan for the end ribs. (the last wing rib before the center section and the last rib at the wing tip.) Build the entire wing with all the aileron Pisces in place. Then using a small hand saw, cut the aileron free. Once free finish up the cut areas both on the free aileron as well as the aileron bay on the wing as per the prints. (As Ryan said. We are referring to the Pietenpol prints.) ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:43:42 AM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Riblett Airfoil You are quite welcome Al. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 01:35:04 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fuselage building question From: "chase143" The fuselage plans call for wedges placed between the braces in two spots. It looks like this is reinforcement for the strut hardware at these points. I this a good interpretation, or should all braces on the fuselage get wedges? Not being a structural engineer, just wanted to see what some others have done, thanks. Steve Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=237553#237553 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 01:47:39 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fuselage building question From: Rick Holland Reenforcement for the wing strut and landing gear attachment points. Only needed where shown on the plans. Rick On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 2:34 PM, chase143 wrote: > > The fuselage plans call for wedges placed between the braces in two spots. > It looks like this is reinforcement for the strut hardware at these points. > I this a good interpretation, or should all braces on the fuselage get > wedges? Not being a structural engineer, just wanted to see what some others > have done, thanks. > Steve > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=237553#237553 > > -- Rick Holland Castle Rock, Colorado ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:58:19 PM PST US From: gcardinal@comcast.net Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: wood gear question Very observant, Oscar. The picture was taken during a fit up prior to first flight. A cotter-pinne d castle nut was eventually fitted, very few Nylock nuts were used on the p lane. The sanitary condition=C2-lasted about 2 or 3 hours. I don't know how peo ple keep their airplanes clean. Are you planning to fly up to Brodhead / Oshkosh this year? We'd all love t o see you there. Greg ----- Original Message ----- From: "Oscar Zuniga " < taildrags @ hotmail .com> Sent: Friday, April 3, 2009 8:09:06 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: Pietenpol -List: wood gear question Greg; in the picture you posted, I assume the airplane was in some sort of dry fit-up and not in airworthy condition at the time since it looks like t he bolt that holds the lower end of the lift strut to the fuselage attach f itting is not secured.=C2- I also see that there is a castellated nut on that bolt and wonder if you used a nylock there in the final installation? =C2- I love the color, fit, and finish of your airplane.=C2- Very sanitary. =C2- Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC San Antonio, TX mailto : taildrags @ hotmail .com website at http :// www . flysquirrel .net -======================== ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 02:34:26 PM PST US From: "Richard Schreiber" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: turnbuckle cable ends Thanks for the reply Santiago. do not archive Rcik S. ----- Original Message ----- From: santiago morete Sent: 4/2/2009 1:40:04 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: turnbuckle cable ends Hello Rick, That's what I did with some of my turnbuckles. The pin and cable eye end are the same but with different holes sizes. If you are using turnbuckles rated for 1600 pounds, the thimble hole diameter should be .219 and for 800 pounds rated turnbuckles, the thimble hole diameter is .188 When you drill and chamfer the holes, you will loose the corrosion protection it may have. Saludos Santiago Yahoo! Cocina Recetas prcticas y comida saludable Visit http://ar.mujer.yahoo.com/cocina/ ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 03:05:56 PM PST US From: "Dale Johnson" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: wood gear question Oscar The Jenney used the same style of landing gear and they wrapped the legs to protect the pilot. Lots fo bad landings in training. I varnished the wood first and then wrapped the legs and soaked the cord to keep it in place. On NX18235 the legs are made of white ash . It's a little heavy but it is holding up good. Dale ----- Original Message ----- From: Oscar Zuniga Sent: 4/3/2009 8:13:18 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: wood gear question Greg; in the picture you posted, I assume the airplane was in some sort of dry fit-up and not in airworthy condition at the time since it looks like the bolt that holds the lower end of the lift strut to the fuselage attach fitting is not secured. I also see that there is a castellated nut on that bolt and wonder if you used a nylock there in the final installation? I love the color, fit, and finish of your airplane. Very sanitary. Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 03:36:32 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Fuselage building question From: "chase143" Rick, Thats awesome! Thanks much! Steve Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=237573#237573 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:33:22 PM PST US From: Oscar Zuniga Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead/Oshkosh 2009 Greg asked- >Are you planning to fly up to Brodhead / Oshkosh this year? >We'd all love to see you there. I've planned it a couple of years=2C have all the charts=2C have planned the stops close to other Piet folks or grass strips with fuel nearby=2C all of that- but can't commit. I'd love to go. My wife says "go for it" but then again she gets nervous every weekend that I go out to the hangar and tinker with the airplane. She thinks if I'm tinkering with it=2C it must be broken or unairworthy. The only one who will know for sure will be Corky=2C because my first planned stop is in Shreveport =3Bo) Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC San Antonio=2C TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 07:58:00 PM PST US From: "Ernie Moreno" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead/Oshkosh 2009 Oscar, I look forward to seeing you at Brodhead this summer. Hope you are able to make the trip. Ernie Moreno ----- Original Message ----- From: Oscar Zuniga To: Pietenpol List Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 7:29 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead/Oshkosh 2009 Greg asked->Are you planning to fly up to Brodhead / Oshkosh this year?>We'd all love to see you there.I've planned it a couple of years, have all the charts, haveplanned the stops close to other Piet folks or grass stripswith fuel nearby, all of that- but can't commit. I'd love togo. My wife says "go for it" but then again she gets nervousevery weekend that I go out to the hangar and tinker with theairplane. She thinks if I'm tinkering with it, it must bebroken or unairworthy.The only one who will know for sure will be Corky, because myfirst planned stop is in Shreveport ;o)Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 08:14:46 PM PST US From: "gcardinal" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead/Oshkosh 2009 Oscar, This is the year to make the trip. We've been enjoying your stories for quite some time and want to see you in person, at Brodhead. The gaggles going into Oshkosh will make that trip segment a piece of cake. Just follow the guy in front of you. San Antonio to Wisconsin and back will be a big trip. Take a few extra days and make the journey, not the destination, the reason for the trip. Flying cross-countries in a Piet is a hoot. See you there........ Greg ----- Original Message ----- From: Oscar Zuniga To: Pietenpol List Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 9:29 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead/Oshkosh 2009 Greg asked->Are you planning to fly up to Brodhead / Oshkosh this year?>We'd all love to see you there.I've planned it a couple of years, have all the charts, haveplanned the stops close to other Piet folks or grass stripswith fuel nearby, all of that- but can't commit. I'd love togo. My wife says "go for it" but then again she gets nervousevery weekend that I go out to the hangar and tinker with theairplane. She thinks if I'm tinkering with it, it must bebroken or unairworthy.The only one who will know for sure will be Corky, because myfirst planned stop is in Shreveport ;o)Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 08:17:14 PM PST US From: "Jim Markle" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead/Oshkosh 2009 Oscar said: The only one who will know for sure will be Corky, because my first planned stop is in Shreveport ;o) Jim said: And I'll make sure Corky has my phone number so I'll have an idea when to expect you to arrive in Pryor.... Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 09:00:23 PM PST US From: Isablcorky@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead/Oshkosh 2009 We are waiting. Have you a nice hangar, transportation, dinner, king bed, private bath and a big breakfast. Even a well stocked bar since I can't drink anymore. Isabelle and Corky **************Hurry! April 15th is almost here. File your Federal taxes FREE with TaxACT. ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 09:11:03 PM PST US From: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB" Subject: Pietenpol-List: piets for sale I just put in Pietenpol for sale in Google and was surprised at the number of completed ones that were for sale. All with A65 or corvairs. some with 3 hours, some with 900 hours. All were under $15000 and some down to $8500. I guess the economy has hit these guys hard and these guys are trying to get out from under a hanger payment or some such. I may have some money for a Piet in several years. I hope these bargans are still around. Any thoughts? 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