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1. 10:50 AM - Runway Finder-- GREAT web site Greg Cardinal ! 80th Anniversary OSH Fly-in update (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation])
2. 11:10 AM - Re: Runway Finder-- GREAT web site Greg Cardinal ! 80th Anniversary OSH Fly-in update (John Hofmann)
3. 11:17 AM - Re: Runway Finder-- GREAT web site Greg Cardinal ! 80th Anniversary OSH Fly-in update (John Hofmann)
4. 11:33 AM - Re: Runway Finder-- GREAT web site Greg Cardinal ! 80th Ann... (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
5. 01:32 PM - Runway Finder-- GREAT web site Greg Cardinal ! 80th (Oscar Zuniga)
6. 01:51 PM - Re: Runway Finder-- GREAT web site Greg Cardinal ! 80th (H RULE)
7. 02:51 PM - extra fuel capacity (Oscar Zuniga)
8. 03:21 PM - Re: Runway Finder-- GREAT web site Greg Cardinal ! 80th Annive (Don Emch)
9. 03:29 PM - Re: extra fuel capacity (Kip and Beth Gardner)
10. 03:30 PM - Re: extra fuel capacity (H RULE)
11. 06:05 PM - Re: Runway Finder-- GREAT web site Greg Cardinal ! 80th Anniversary OSH Fly-in update (gcardinal)
12. 07:16 PM - Re: gas tank float (Gene Rambo)
13. 07:42 PM - Re: gas tank float (H RULE)
14. 07:52 PM - Re: gas tank float (Tim Willis)
15. 10:19 PM - Re: gas tank float (Clif Dawson)
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| Subject: | Runway Finder-- GREAT web site Greg Cardinal ! 80th |
Anniversary OSH Fly-in update
www.runwayfinder.com<http://www.runwayfinder.com> is a good site with activ
e sectionals that can be used for flight planning.
GREAT web site Greg ! Did any of you guys try this ?? You can zoom in
, drag around the entire United States just like you would a Google Map.
I will checkout Wapun as a possible stop from Brodhead to Oshkosh.
Is anyone thinking of simply flying nonstop from Brodhead to OSH via the FI
SK approach ? That is my thought as winds are notoriously calmer in the m
orning hours but...it is what it is when you get there.
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Re: Runway Finder-- GREAT web site Greg Cardinal ! 80th |
Anniversary OSH Fly-in update
Mikee,
I have used skyvector.com in the past for mapping. It works well,
especially with Firefox, to plan routes and get weather.
John Hofmann
Vice-President, Information Technology
The Rees Group, Inc.
2810 Crossroads Drive, Ste 3800
Madison, WI 53718
Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
Fax: 608.443.2474
Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
On Apr 9, 2009, at 12:49 PM, Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace
Corporation] wrote:
> www.runwayfinder.com is a good site with active sectionals that can
> be used for flight planning.
>
> GREAT web site Greg ! Did any of you guys try this ?? You can
> zoom in, drag around the entire United States just like you would a
> Google Map. I will checkout Wapun as a possible stop from Brodhead
> to Oshkosh.
>
> Is anyone thinking of simply flying nonstop from Brodhead to OSH via
> the FISK approach ? That is my thought as winds are notoriously
> calmer in the morning hours but=85it is what it is when you get there.
>
> Mike C.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Runway Finder-- GREAT web site Greg Cardinal ! 80th |
Anniversary OSH Fly-in update
Mikee,
Whatever web tools you use to help facilitate flight planning,
remember, "Nebraska is mine. I've been working it for two years."
Do not archive
John Hofmann
Vice-President, Information Technology
The Rees Group, Inc.
2810 Crossroads Drive, Ste 3800
Madison, WI 53718
Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
Fax: 608.443.2474
Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
On Apr 9, 2009, at 12:49 PM, Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace
Corporation] wrote:
> www.runwayfinder.com is a good site with active sectionals that can
> be used for flight planning.
>
> GREAT web site Greg ! Did any of you guys try this ?? You can
> zoom in, drag around the entire United States just like you would a
> Google Map. I will checkout Wapun as a possible stop from Brodhead
> to Oshkosh.
>
> Is anyone thinking of simply flying nonstop from Brodhead to OSH via
> the FISK approach ? That is my thought as winds are notoriously
> calmer in the morning hours but=85it is what it is when you get there.
>
> Mike C.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Runway Finder-- GREAT web site Greg Cardinal ! 80th |
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| Subject: | Runway Finder-- GREAT web site Greg Cardinal ! 80th |
Mikee wrote-
>Is anyone thinking of simply flying nonstop from Brodhead to OSH via the
FISK approach ?
No=2C but I thought about flying nonstop from San Geronimo (8T8) to Brodhea
d (C37) via direct. It's only 1=2C044 statute and I figure I can make it w
ith 75 gallons and that includes a 25% reserve. Since I already have a 16
gal. tank=2C I only need to find room for 59 milk jugs filled with avgas=2C
for another 354 lbs.
Hmmm... I'd better plug that into the W&B spreadsheet.
Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC
San Antonio=2C TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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| Subject: | Re: Runway Finder-- GREAT web site Greg Cardinal ! 80th |
WOW! Are all those milk jugs interconnected with each having their own valv
e shut off going to the main tank and if so how do you turn each one on as
you go or do you have the valves all back in the rear cockpit to control fr
om there?Is there a fuel pump there to pump the gas to the main?Do you have
a spare jug in reserve for wee,wees along the way?How do you control the j
ugs from colapsing as the fuel is taken out or does that matter?Do you hang
them from the center section wing or are they down on the floor?I gotta kn
ow how you do this!!!!!=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFr
om: Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com>=0ATo: Pietenpol List <pietenpol-li
st@matronics.com>=0ASent: Thursday, April 9, 2009 4:28:55 PM=0ASubject: Pie
tenpol-List: Runway Finder-- GREAT web site Greg Cardinal ! 80th=0A=0AMikee
wrote-=0A-=0A>Is anyone thinking of simply flying nonstop from Brodhead
to OSH via the=0AFISK approach ?=0A-=0ANo, but I thought about flying non
stop from San Geronimo (8T8) to Brodhead (C37) via direct.- It's only 1,0
44 statute and I figure I can make it with 75 gallons and that includes a 2
5% reserve.- Since I already have a 16 gal. tank, I only need to find roo
m for 59 milk jugs filled with avgas, for another 354 lbs.=0A-=0AHmmm...
I'd better plug that into the W&B spreadsheet.-=0A-=0AOscar Zuniga=0AAi
r Camper NX41CC=0ASan Antonio, TX=0Amailto: taildrags@hotmail.com=0Awebsite
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| Subject: | extra fuel capacity |
Harvey=3B
Forget the milk jugs. Since I sent that last post=2C I got an even better
idea for my non-stop=2C unrefueled flight to Brodhead. What I'm proposing
is to tow an unmanned glider that will be fitted as a flying fuel tank=2C b
asically. It will ride above my wake=2C which will let me keep an eye on i
t and will also mean gravity feed of the fuel down to my airplane via a 1/2
" plastic fuel line running down the tow cable. I'll have a manual valve i
n the cockpit that will let me periodically refill 41CC's fuel tank by simp
ly watching the cork float rise as I open the valve. In case of an emergen
cy=2C I'll be able to jettison using a standard tow-hook release and a quic
k-connect on the fuel hose.
Oh=2C and the other benefit is that I can also scrounge a windshield washer
pump from the auto junkyard to be used as a "nitrogenous waste collection
system" for my biological overflow. I'll mount a yellow pushbutton on the
control stick and by holding the button for about 30 seconds=2C I'll bet I
can pump a windshield washer tank full of urine up to my flying fuel/waste
holding tank with no problems. I'll only need a couple of cycles of the pu
mp for the 16 hour flight.
Now let's see... I'll stock up on beef jerky=2C Moon Pies=2C Baby Ruth bars
=2C and some water and I'm ready to go.
Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC
San Antonio=2C TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: Runway Finder-- GREAT web site Greg Cardinal ! 80th |
Annive
Hey Mike,
I'd be interested in leaving at sunrise Sunday morning and flying direct to OSH.
Gotta love that smooth morning air. It'd be fun to fly all that way with a
few others. It makes the flight seem shorter and more fun when I have to spend
time focusing on the guy I'm flying formation with. Looking forward to it!
Don Emch
NX899DE
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=238558#238558
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| Subject: | Re: extra fuel capacity |
Oscar,
You are going to give Corky IDEAS. Next thing you know we'll be
getting a call from his wife saying he took off for Belize.
Kip
On Apr 9, 2009, at 5:48 PM, Oscar Zuniga wrote:
> Harvey;
>
> Forget the milk jugs. Since I sent that last post, I got an even
> better idea for my non-stop, unrefueled flight to Brodhead. What
> I'm proposing is to tow an unmanned glider that will be fitted as a
> flying fuel tank, basically. It will ride above my wake, which
> will let me keep an eye on it and will also mean gravity feed of
> the fuel down to my airplane via a 1/2" plastic fuel line running
> down the tow cable. I'll have a manual valve in the cockpit that
> will let me periodically refill 41CC's fuel tank by simply watching
> the cork float rise as I open the valve. In case of an emergency,
> I'll be able to jettison using a standard tow-hook release and a
> quick-connect on the fuel hose.
>
> Oh, and the other benefit is that I can also scrounge a windshield
> washer pump from the auto junkyard to be used as a "nitrogenous
> waste collection system" for my biological overflow. I'll mount a
> yellow pushbutton on the control stick and by holding the button
> for about 30 seconds, I'll bet I can pump a windshield washer tank
> full of urine up to my flying fuel/waste holding tank with no
> problems. I'll only need a couple of cycles of the pump for the 16
> hour flight.
>
> Now let's see... I'll stock up on beef jerky, Moon Pies, Baby Ruth
> bars, and some water and I'm ready to go.
>
> Oscar Zuniga
> Air Camper NX41CC
> San Antonio, TX
> mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
> website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: extra fuel capacity |
Awsome;love the idea but how are you going to fly two planes at the same ti
me and how will the glider remain above you.Usually they fall behind and so
metimes below.Love the urine solving problem,sounds like it might work but
it seems a bit extreme when just a jar will do and when full just dump it o
ver board and can be used over and over again.=0A=0Ado not archive=0A=0A=0A
=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotm
ail.com>=0ATo: Pietenpol List <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>=0ASent: Thursd
ay, April 9, 2009 5:48:32 PM=0ASubject: Pietenpol-List: extra fuel capacity
=0A=0AHarvey;=0A-=0AForget the milk jugs.- Since I sent that last post,
I got an even better idea for my non-stop, unrefueled flight to Brodhead.
- What I'm proposing is to tow an unmanned glider that will be fitted as
a flying fuel tank, basically.- It will ride above my wake, which will le
t me keep an eye on it and will also mean gravity feed of the fuel down to
my airplane via a 1/2" plastic fuel line running down the tow cable.- I'l
l have a manual valve in the cockpit-that will let me periodically refill
41CC's fuel tank by simply watching the cork float rise as I open the valv
e.- In case of an emergency, I'll be able to jettison using a standard to
w-hook release and a quick-connect on the fuel hose.=0A-=0AOh, and the ot
her benefit is that I can also scrounge a windshield washer pump from the a
uto junkyard to be used as a "nitrogenous waste collection system" for my b
iological overflow.- I'll mount a yellow pushbutton on the control stick
and by holding-the button-for about 30 seconds, I'll bet I can pump a w
indshield washer tank full of urine up to my flying fuel/waste holding tank
with no problems.- I'll only need a couple of cycles of the pump for the
16 hour flight.=0A-=0ANow let's see... I'll stock up on beef jerky, Moon
Pies, Baby Ruth bars, and some water and I'm ready to go.=0A=0AOscar Zunig
a=0AAir Camper NX41CC=0ASan Antonio, TX=0Amailto: taildrags@hotmail.com=0Aw
ebsite at http://www.flysquirrel.net=0A-=0ADO NOT ARCHIVE=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A
-========================
==================
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| Subject: | Re: Runway Finder-- GREAT web site Greg Cardinal ! 80th |
Anniversary OSH Fly-in update
What I like about Runwayfinder.com is the ability to enter airport
identifiers and it will draw a course line complete with distances. Very
nice for flight planning.
Brodhead - direct - Oshkosh is good if you have a radio. Those of us
doing the nordo thing will have to make a stop.
Waupun is very convenient for both the Fisk arrival and the ultralight
arrival. Hopefully we can all get into OSH before any significant wind
kicks up.
Greg
----- Original Message -----
From: Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 12:49 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Runway Finder-- GREAT web site Greg Cardinal
! 80th Anniversary OSH Fly-in update
www.runwayfinder.com is a good site with active sectionals that can be
used for flight planning.
GREAT web site Greg ! Did any of you guys try this ?? You can
zoom in, drag around the entire United States just like you would a
Google Map. I will checkout Wapun as a possible stop from Brodhead to
Oshkosh.
Is anyone thinking of simply flying nonstop from Brodhead to OSH via
the FISK approach ? That is my thought as winds are notoriously calmer
in the morning hours but.it is what it is when you get there.
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Re: gas tank float |
I've seen a million good responses on here but wanted to throw in one
that has been missed . . . in the old days, the corks were originally
coated with many coats of good old-fashioned shellac, which seems to be
impervious to all fuels and additives.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Rick Holland<mailto:at7000ft@gmail.com>
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com<mailto:pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 10:39 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: gas tank float
Did you coat that cork with varnish or anything Ed?
rick
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 8:13 PM, Ed G.
<flyboy_120@hotmail.com<mailto:flyboy_120@hotmail.com>> wrote:
I'm useing a big cork that I bought at the local Ace hardware.
That's what the Aeronca that I fly has for a float and it works fine.
Ed G
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: gas tank float
> From: rhano@att.net<mailto:rhano@att.net>
> Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 17:36:15 -0700
> To:
pietenpol-list@matronics.com<mailto:pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
>
<rhano@att.net<mailto:rhano@att.net>>
>
> What are you using for a float in your tanks? I guess there are
still a lot of car gas tanks that use brass floats on their gage senders
and maybe I can check out a friends junkyard and find a good one to use
in my fuel tank.any ideas on which models might have the best size and
shape to fit into the filler neck and have enough buoyancy to raise the
brass rod ?Raymond
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
>
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=238067#238067<http://forums
.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=238067#238067>
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| Subject: | Re: gas tank float |
That's what I used;went to a wine making store for the cork and used a coat
hanger.Works fine.=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom:
Gene Rambo <generambo@msn.com>=0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com=0ASent: T
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| Subject: | Re: gas tank float |
I can tell you not to overly coat your cork with silicon caulk or the like, for
a cork so coated can float in water, but not in gasoline (lower specific gravity).
This is based on empirical data.
Now for Plan B.......... Does anyone know if ethanol or gasoline will eat up the
coating on a cork, if the coating is either West Marine epoxy or West Marine
epoxy varnish? Your answer is based on... Chemistry? Mfr. specs.? Tests?
Tim in central TX
-----Original Message-----
>From: H RULE <harvey.rule@rogers.com>
>Sent: Apr 9, 2009 9:41 PM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: gas tank float
>
>That's what I used;went to a wine making store for the cork and used a coat hanger.Works
fine.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: gas tank float |
NOT alcohol! That is the solvent for shellac.
http://antiquerestorers.com/Articles/jeff/shellac.htm
Clif
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: gas tank float
the corks were originally coated with many coats of good old-fashioned
shellac, which seems to be impervious to all fuels and additives.
Gene
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