---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 04/10/09: 11 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:33 AM - gas tank float (walt) 2. 05:24 AM - Re: gas tank float (H RULE) 3. 06:57 AM - Re: gas tank float (Dennis Engelkenjohn) 4. 09:50 AM - Re: gas tank float (Rick Holland) 5. 01:21 PM - looking for a wingman Don ? (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]) 6. 01:24 PM - flying into Oshkosh (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]) 7. 02:55 PM - Re: flying into Oshkosh (Don Emch) 8. 03:05 PM - Re: flying into Oshkosh (Don Emch) 9. 06:55 PM - Another Flying Circus picture (Don Emch) 10. 07:08 PM - Re: Another Flying Circus picture (Don Emch) 11. 09:01 PM - NORDO into OSH (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:33:00 AM PST US From: "walt" Subject: Pietenpol-List: gas tank float Friend of mine made me 2 float assy over the years , at different times, for my two projects. They've worked flawlessly. And very simple. Below is his discription. <<<<<<<<<<< Walt, Yes. 1/16" SS rod. The best epoxy is called, "JB Weld" It is basically gasoline proof and seals the two 1/16" holes you have to drill in the ping pong ball. JB Weld is sold at most auto parts stores...NAPA for instance also Advance Auto. I also made some with TWO balls on one rod to get more buoyancy. But if you keep the SS rod thin and not too long it will float on one ball. Cook. >>>>>>>>>>>>> use 1/16" rod from the welding store as the rod. then I found an old ball point pen that had the brass ink tube, cut and cleaned that and soldered it into a hole drilled in the fuel cap. Works absolutely flawlessly!! ( or buy the tube at the hobby store) You can either drop it to the bottom,cut the rod 1/2" from the top of tube, and bend it over,,,,,,,,Or set it higher to make a built in reserve walt evans NX140DL ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:24:53 AM PST US From: H RULE Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: gas tank float That's right,they are using enthonal in the gas which will eat that shallac .I think I coat it in JB weld as that other gentleman wrote when I get back down to the field.=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Clif Dawson =0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com=0ASent : Friday, April 10, 2009 1:18:20 AM=0ASubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: gas tank float=0A=0A=0ANOT alcohol! That is the solvent for shellac.=0A-=0Ahttp:/ /antiquerestorers.com/Articles/jeff/shellac.htm=0A-=0AClif=0ASubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: gas tank float=0A=0Athe corks were originally coated with many coats of good old-fashioned shellac, which seems to be impervious to a ======= ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:57:33 AM PST US From: "Dennis Engelkenjohn" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: gas tank float TEAM Aircraft used to recommend bending a wire like is used to dip out colored easter eggs and glue a ping pong ball to it with T-88 to make a float. Alcohol dissolves the T-88 though. I tried it on my minimax. dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Willis" Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 9:52 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: gas tank float ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:50:45 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: gas tank float From: Rick Holland Of course in the old days they didn't use 25% of the countries corn crops to put Ethanol in car gasoline. Don't know how shellac would handle that. Rick On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 8:13 PM, Gene Rambo wrote: > I've seen a million good responses on here but wanted to throw in one > that has been missed . . . in the old days, the corks were originally coated > with many coats of good old-fashioned shellac, which seems to be impervious > to all fuels and additives. > > Gene > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Rick Holland > *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com > *Sent:* Monday, April 06, 2009 10:39 PM > *Subject:* Re: Pietenpol-List: gas tank float > > Did you coat that cork with varnish or anything Ed? > > rick > > On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 8:13 PM, Ed G. wrote: > >> I'm useing a big cork that I bought at the local Ace hardware. That's what >> the Aeronca that I fly has for a float and it works fine. Ed G >> >> > Subject: Pietenpol-List: gas tank float >> > From: rhano@att.net >> > Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 17:36:15 -0700 >> > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >> > >> > >> > >> > What are you using for a float in your tanks? I guess there are still a >> lot of car gas tanks that use brass floats on their gage senders and maybe I >> can check out a friends junkyard and find a good one to use in my fuel >> tank.any ideas on which models might have the best size and shape to fit >> into the filler neck and have enough buoyancy to raise the brass rod >> ?Raymond >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Read this topic online here: >> > >> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=238067#238067 >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> ------------------------------ >> Quick access to your favorite MSN content and Windows Live with Internet >> Explorer 8. 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If I can get my butt out of the tent early enough and packed and the weather is favorable, I wouldn't mind tagging along with anyone else who might be, like yourself, thinking of doing that. I flew loose formation with Jack Phillips from Cleveland to Brodhead in 2005 and you're right-- it does make the time go much faster and except for driving Jack nuts with my incessant chatter over the air-to-air frequency we both had the time of our lives. Mike C. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:24:31 PM PST US From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]" Subject: Pietenpol-List: flying into Oshkosh I did notice in the BPAN newsletter (thank you Doc and Dee) that EAA is all owing us to land on the ultralight grass runway IF we have a tailskid. Th at's very cool. And then you can get towed to the parking area by the Hom ebuilt HQ. So Don E., will you be flying with a radio via the FISK approach or going N ORDO from Brodhead to OSH ? I will have my Icom handheld to communicate ( I should say listen) to FISK and the tower at OSH. Mike C. ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 02:55:07 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: flying into Oshkosh From: "Don Emch" Hey Mike C, I haven't studied up on it too much but I would like to try the Brodhead to Oshkosh direct idea. Most of my cross-country planning seems to be planned a few minutes before the flight. Draw a line and go. Not really the best idea I suppose. So I do need to get some time to look over the arrival procedures. I'm a NORDO. So if I feel the urge to get chatty it usually has to be with myself. I can yell pretty loud but I usually have to communicate with my wingman by hand signals. In '07 there were several of us flying together on our way to Brodhead, I think at one point there were actually 9 airplanes. None had radios. We seemed to communicate ok, no real problems. Anyway, the gas range for Brodhead to OSH isn't a problem for me, the butt range is somewhat though. If I can do a NORDO arrival direct from Brodhead I will but I don't know if I can do that from that far out. Ya know, it's only a little over 3 months away! Don Emch NX899DE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=238659#238659 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 03:05:59 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: flying into Oshkosh From: "Don Emch" Though I'd throw this shot in from '07. Me trying to take air to air shots while flying. Don Emch NX899DE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=238661#238661 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/piet_formation_414.jpg ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:55:13 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Another Flying Circus picture From: "Don Emch" Just another picture... Steve Roth's Fairchild in the background. Don Emch NX899DE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=238675#238675 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/piet_and_fairchild_103.jpg ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:08:46 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Another Flying Circus picture From: "Don Emch" Illinois had to be a barnstormers paradise. All those long beautiful fields... Don, again Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=238676#238676 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/illinois_barnstorming_212.jpg ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 09:01:47 PM PST US From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]" Subject: Pietenpol-List: NORDO into OSH I do believe to be NORDO you need to call the tower from an airport where you are 30 minutes from Wittman Field so calling from Brodhead for a NORDO clearance wouldn't work. To be 30 minutes (or whatever the real number is in the NOTAM) from Wittman Field you have to be at Fon Du Lac with a strong tailwind in a Pietenpol:)))) NORDO can sometimes work to your advantage if you want to land on a different runway that whatever the tower is assigning at OSH. It seems over the years they like to use the E-W runways for the radio approaches (wind permitting) and the N-S for the NORDO guys like we did 10 years ago when they use 36 and the 36 taxiway as a parallel 36R/18L. If the wind is howling out of the south and they are landing tower airplanes to the east and NORDO's to the south.....I'm going in NORDO ! 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