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1. 06:32 AM - Re: Mountain Piet (Steve Ruse)
2. 05:05 PM - Materials List (TriScout)
3. 06:24 PM - Re: Materials List (carson)
4. 07:03 PM - Re: Materials List (Jack Phillips)
5. 07:57 PM - Re: Materials List (K5YAC)
6. 08:50 PM - T88 hint......Re: Materials List (Jim Markle)
7. 11:02 PM - Re: Materials List (Peter Johnson)
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| Subject: | Re: Mountain Piet |
What was the cause of the engine failure? Too bad, that is a good
looking plane. Glad to hear it is being fixed.
http://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/John3.html
Steve Ruse
Norman, OK
Quoting gcardinal <gcardinal@comcast.net>:
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> It is currently being rebuilt in central Missouri by Greg Bacon.
> Progress has been slow for the past year but Greg is renewing his
> efforts and is determined to get it back in the air.
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> Greg Cardinal
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> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 8:43 PM
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Mountain Piet
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>> What ever became of it? I thought it was going to be re-built but
>> forget if I ever heard how that went. anybody else running the
>> Subaru conversion? Raymond
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Hello all,
This might be a tedious question (my apologies in advance). This is my first posting
here. I ordered Piet plans from Don/Andrew. I am hoping to put in an order
for wood before my plans arrive for the aircamper, as I am off to fly a trip
in 6 days. I could be gone for more than 2 weeks.
My hope is to hit the ground running when I get back home in May, as I have 2 weeks
home each month to "toss her together". I am seeking a materials list for
just the wing ribs and tailfeather material so as to place an order w/aircraft
spruce or wicks this week, thereby possibly saving a months time awaiting delivery.
Any takers? Thanks in advance..
Rgrds;
Larry
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| Subject: | Re: Materials List |
Im just heading out the door for 3 days myself,I can give you mine when I get back
if no one else replies,I only have a hard copy so will have to type it out
Carson
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Larry,
Welcome to the wonderful world of Pietenpols and Pietenpol builders. It's
been a while since I built mine (particularly the ribs), so I'm going on old
memory, but as I recall, it takes 3 6' lengths of 1/4" x 1/2" for each rib,
plus gusset material.
Are you planning to use aircraft grade materials? If so you will likely be
ordering from Wicks or Aircraft Spruce & Specialty. Shipping gets pretty
expensive, because the big pieces (like 4' x 8' sheetsof plywood, and spars
and longerons) are too big to go UPS and must be shipped by truck.
Generally the shipping costs at least $150, so you should try to order it
all at once. Shipping one spar costs $150. Shipping four spars and four
longerons and several sheets of plywood probably costs around $165.
If you want to just get enough to do the ribs, you will be better off to
order a few pieces of plywood sheets, so they can ship more cheaply. You
can order 2' x 4' sections and pay a little more for the wood but save a lot
on the shipping. 6' pieces of spruce can also ship cheaply, so I would say,
for the ribs, order 90, 6' pieces of 1/4" x 1/2" spruce capstrip, and a
couple of 2'x4' pieces of 1/16" plywood (birch or mahogany - your choice).
If you order from Aircraft Spruce, I would also buy their "Bargain Bag of
Spruce" - it truly is a baragin and you will get several nice pieces of
spruce that you will find uses for at some point in your project. You will
also need glue (I use resorcinol, everybody else uses T-88) and a pound of
1/2" AN501 nails, and that should be enough to atleast get you through the
ribs.
Have Fun!
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Raleigh,NC
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of TriScout
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 8:04 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Materials List
Hello all,
This might be a tedious question (my apologies in advance). This is my first
posting here. I ordered Piet plans from Don/Andrew. I am hoping to put in an
order for wood before my plans arrive for the aircamper, as I am off to fly
a trip in 6 days. I could be gone for more than 2 weeks.
My hope is to hit the ground running when I get back home in May, as I have
2 weeks home each month to "toss her together". I am seeking a materials
list for just the wing ribs and tailfeather material so as to place an order
w/aircraft spruce or wicks this week, thereby possibly saving a months time
awaiting delivery. Any takers? Thanks in advance..
Rgrds;
Larry
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| Subject: | Re: Materials List |
Hi Larry!
I am also new to the Pietenpol, but I will vouch for Jack's memory. I recently
ordered exactly what he recommends and found that amount of material to be just
right. I've got all of my diagonals and uprights cut and I had enough to shape
the top and bottom capstrips as well.
Jack: "for the ribs, order 90, 6' pieces of 1/4" x 1/2" spruce capstrip, and a
couple of 2'x4' pieces of 1/16" plywood"
I also picked up the Bargain Bag of Spruce and it does indeed contain a nice variety
of various sizes and shapes. I've not used any yet, but I'm sure it will
be useful at some point.
I am also using T-88 as Jack mentioned. I like it so far as it allows a good working
time (45 min or so) and is super strong. I'm using 1/4" nails, which seem
to be adequate in holding the gussets in place. Even though the plans call
for 1/2" nails, they seem a bit long, but I don't suppose either would be necessarily
bad to use. According to "The Sportplane Builder" - Tony Bingelis,
"the nails should be long enough to penetrate the underlying structure by 3 times
the thickness of the surface plywood." 1/16" ply should require 1/4" nail.
I hope I'm not overlooking some other reason that the plans might have called
for 1/2" nails. If you plan to use 1/4" nails, get a good, lightweight pair
of needle nose pliers and a tack hammer.
I think the capstrip and wing rib assembly should keep you busy for several weeks.
If you order the stuff mentioned above, it should come UPS ground... mine
did. That should keep you off the freight truck until you get a better idea
what all you need to order for the rest of the build.
Good luck on your build!
--------
Mark
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| Subject: | Re: Materials List |
So if you're using T-88....think about this....
Print out an excel spreadsheet (like the picture I've attached to this email) that
shows how much T-88 to mix by weight. The spreadsheet shows two columns,
the one on the left shows a weight for the hardener and the number in the right
hand column is what the scale will show when you then add just the right amount
of resin.
It's a neat way to do it because no matter how much hardener you put in, the spreadsheet
shows exactly how much resin to then add...much more accurate than guestimating
half and half...
For example, if I add 5.80 oz of hardener (I color coded the columns to help keep
it straight) then all I do is add resin until the scale says 12.788. But if
I accidentally put in a bit more, say 5.95 oz then I keep pouring the resin
until the scale says 13.119.
Maybe it's just me and everyone else figured this out already but this has REALLY
helped speed up the T-88 process and keep my mix, which I used to just guess
at, very accurate.
Jim in Pryor
>I am also using T-88 as Jack mentioned. I like it so far as it allows a good
working time (45 min or so) and is super strong.
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Larry,
I have a list on my web site. Go to http://www.cpc-world.com.
Under "Services and Suppliers" there is a wood cutting list.
Hope it helps.
Peter
Wonthaggi Australia
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of TriScout
Sent: Tuesday, 21 April 2009 10:04 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Materials List
Hello all,
This might be a tedious question (my apologies in advance). This is my first
posting here. I ordered Piet plans from Don/Andrew. I am hoping to put in an
order for wood before my plans arrive for the aircamper, as I am off to fly
a trip in 6 days. I could be gone for more than 2 weeks.
My hope is to hit the ground running when I get back home in May, as I have
2 weeks home each month to "toss her together". I am seeking a materials
list for just the wing ribs and tailfeather material so as to place an order
w/aircraft spruce or wicks this week, thereby possibly saving a months time
awaiting delivery. Any takers? Thanks in advance..
Rgrds;
Larry
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