---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 04/28/09: 25 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:56 AM - Zero messages?? (Lawrence Williams) 2. 09:04 AM - Air Speed (Isablcorky@aol.com) 3. 09:29 AM - Re: Air Speed (Ed G.) 4. 09:39 AM - Re: Air Speed (Isablcorky@aol.com) 5. 09:40 AM - Re: Air Speed (Jack Phillips) 6. 09:50 AM - 220lb - passenger (brian.e.jardine@l-3com.com) 7. 10:08 AM - Re: 220lb - passenger (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]) 8. 10:09 AM - Re: Air Speed (Isablcorky@aol.com) 9. 12:49 PM - Re: 220lb - passenger (walt) 10. 12:51 PM - Re: Air Speed (walt) 11. 01:03 PM - Re: Air Speed (Jack Phillips) 12. 01:49 PM - Re: Air Speed (walt) 13. 02:10 PM - Re: Air Speed (walt) 14. 02:33 PM - Re: Air Speed (Jack Phillips) 15. 02:54 PM - Re: Air Speed (TOM STINEMETZE) 16. 03:28 PM - Bedfordlandings (Michael Perez) 17. 03:29 PM - Re: Air Speed (Jack Phillips) 18. 03:40 PM - Re: Air Speed (Gary Boothe) 19. 04:39 PM - Re: Zero messages?? (TriScout) 20. 05:43 PM - Brodhead Dream'n.......The Great Waldo Pepper (helspersew@aol.com) 21. 06:38 PM - Re: 220lb - passenger (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]) 22. 07:19 PM - Re: Re: 220lb - passenger (Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB) 23. 07:36 PM - Re: Re: 220lb - passenger (Gary Boothe) 24. 09:48 PM - carryons (Clif Dawson) 25. 10:34 PM - Re: 220lb - passenger (walt) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:56:34 AM PST US From: Lawrence Williams Subject: Pietenpol-List: Zero messages?? I sat down to peruse the Piet list this morning with my Dr. Pepper and..... no messages! - I perked up at the thought that everyone is busy either feverishly building or doing condition inspections in anticipation of the huge B'head/OSH happ enings. Gave me a warm-fuzzy just knowing of the finishing touches being la vished on our noble aerocrafts. - My own Cherry Grove rocket is straining at the chocks as I gaze at it. The longing to waft over the fruited plain is becoming stronger as each day pas ses. Heck, I might have to leave early! - I have a couple of invites to waylay me along the way north this summer whi ch might lead to having several other Piets join up for a (small) mass arri val at the holy land,er...I mean Brodhead together. - I am issuing a plea: If you know someone with a Piet in the hangar that is NOT planning to attend, like I do< tease, cajole, shame, embarrass or other wise kick them into action! What better occasion to dust off the ol' girl a nd regain the old-timey fun of flying to Brodhead? Who knows when the next big milestone will be celebrated? - Swine flu and the economy be damned, get those heaps into the air! - Larry W.- xcg, xcmr, epp=0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:04:15 AM PST US From: Isablcorky@aol.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Air Speed Pieters, Anyone familiar enough with the Aeronca 65 TAC to give me some idea as to what air speed I might expect solo? Thanks Corky **************Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from anywhere on the web. Get the Radio Toolbar! (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolradio/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000003) ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:29:03 AM PST US From: "Ed G." Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Air Speed Hi Corky The 65 hp 7AC Champ that I fly cruises at about 70 mph on a good day. Ed G. From: Isablcorky@aol.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Air Speed Pieters=2C Anyone familiar enough with the Aeronca 65 TAC to give me some idea as to w hat air speed I might expect solo? Thanks Corky Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from anywhere on the web. Get the R adio Toolbar! _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live=99 SkyDrive=99: Get 25 GB of free online storage. http://windowslive.com/online/skydrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_skydrive_042009 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:39:52 AM PST US From: Isablcorky@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Air Speed Thanks Ed. I was hoping for a little better kick in the ass than 70. Corky **************Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from anywhere on the web. Get the Radio Toolbar! (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolradio/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000003) ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:40:38 AM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Air Speed It's been a long time, Corky, but as I recall, it was a little slower than a Cub, indicating about 70 mph (still faster than a Pietenpol). Good luck with it. Will you fly it to Brodhead this year? Jack Phillips Raleigh, NC _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Isablcorky@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 12:00 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Air Speed Pieters, Anyone familiar enough with the Aeronca 65 TAC to give me some idea as to what air speed I might expect solo? Thanks Corky _____ Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from anywhere on the web. Get the Radio Toolbar! ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:50:05 AM PST US From: brian.e.jardine@l-3com.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: 220lb - passenger Group, Thinking of heading to Brodhead for my first time this year. Hope to get my first ride in a Piet. Question is......Can a Piet carry a 220 joy-rider in the front or do I have to wait until I get mine built and sit in the back? Brian SLC, UT ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:08:16 AM PST US From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: 220lb - passenger Hey Brian, No to be mean but you won't be offered many rides at Brodhead. Some Piets can haul more than others like Bill Rewey's Piet as he's got a longer wing than most...and he built his light. Some of the Ford Piets are amazing like Ken Perkin's Piet which I've seen haul some full-figured girls like you and I. Sadly I'm limited to carrying only petite passengers due to my weakening A-65 powerplant. (new rings are in order this spring on 2 cyls) Best wishes on getting a ride-- you'll have fun even if you don't but more fun if you get to go. Mike C. ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:09:49 AM PST US From: Isablcorky@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Air Speed Not planning any more Brodhead trips lest it be via American Airlines. Havanna, that's something else. Corky **************Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from anywhere on the web. Get the Radio Toolbar! (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolradio/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000003) ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 12:49:19 PM PST US From: "walt" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 220lb - passenger Brian, Depends how light they built it. My last rider was 210# ( and I'm 225#) no problems except limited sight on my part) He wasn't comfortable with his arms inside, so he hung them out like he was in a sidecar! Kind of blocked the fwd view. Thanks to that instructor that brought the sectional chart up in front of me just before flare, in a Charokee, to make me look out the side window. Pics of helping him in, and of yours truely proping walt evans NX140DL ----- Original Message ----- From: Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 12:49 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: 220lb - passenger > > Group, > > Thinking of heading to Brodhead for my first time this year. Hope to get > my first ride in a Piet. Question is......Can a Piet carry a 220 > joy-rider in the front or do I have to wait until I get mine built and > sit in the back? > > Brian > SLC, UT > > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 12:51:48 PM PST US From: "walt" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Air Speed Jack, Another plea for building light. I was flying last weekend. At 2150 rpm on an A-65, I dropped the nose to get "into step" and indicating mid 80's. (checked with a GPS) At full throttle, I'm over 90 (MPH not age :^) ) build light. build light walt evans NX140DL ----- Original Message ----- From: Jack Phillips To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 12:39 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Air Speed It's been a long time, Corky, but as I recall, it was a little slower than a Cub, indicating about 70 mph (still faster than a Pietenpol). Good luck with it. Will you fly it to Brodhead this year? Jack Phillips Raleigh, NC ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Isablcorky@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 12:00 PM To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Air Speed Pieters, Anyone familiar enough with the Aeronca 65 TAC to give me some idea as to what air speed I might expect solo? Thanks Corky ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from anywhere on the web. Get the Radio Toolbar! http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-Listhttp://forums.matronics. comhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 01:03:44 PM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Air Speed Yep, you're right about that Walt. I envy you with the light weight your Piet achieved. I've finally moved mine to an airport with a long enough runway that I can comfortably give rides in it. 3100' with good approaches. My wife shot some videos and put them on YouTube. Check them out here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dnb6y74I3nw Jack Phillips NX899JP _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of walt Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 3:51 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Air Speed Jack, Another plea for building light. I was flying last weekend. At 2150 rpm on an A-65, I dropped the nose to get "into step" and indicating mid 80's. (checked with a GPS) At full throttle, I'm over 90 (MPH not age :^) ) build light. build light walt evans NX140DL ----- Original Message ----- From: Jack Phillips Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 12:39 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Air Speed It's been a long time, Corky, but as I recall, it was a little slower than a Cub, indicating about 70 mph (still faster than a Pietenpol). Good luck with it. Will you fly it to Brodhead this year? Jack Phillips Raleigh, NC _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Isablcorky@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 12:00 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Air Speed Pieters, Anyone familiar enough with the Aeronca 65 TAC to give me some idea as to what air speed I might expect solo? Thanks Corky _____ Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from anywhere on the web. Get the Radio Toolbar! http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matronic s.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 01:49:55 PM PST US From: "walt" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Air Speed Thanks Jack, I'm checking them out right now. walt evans NX140DL ----- Original Message ----- From: Jack Phillips To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 4:00 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Air Speed Yep, you're right about that Walt. I envy you with the light weight your Piet achieved. I've finally moved mine to an airport with a long enough runway that I can comfortably give rides in it. 3100' with good approaches. My wife shot some videos and put them on YouTube. Check them out here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dnb6y74I3nw Jack Phillips NX899JP ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of walt Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 3:51 PM To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Air Speed Jack, Another plea for building light. I was flying last weekend. At 2150 rpm on an A-65, I dropped the nose to get "into step" and indicating mid 80's. (checked with a GPS) At full throttle, I'm over 90 (MPH not age :^) ) build light. build light walt evans NX140DL ----- Original Message ----- From: Jack Phillips To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 12:39 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Air Speed It's been a long time, Corky, but as I recall, it was a little slower than a Cub, indicating about 70 mph (still faster than a Pietenpol). Good luck with it. Will you fly it to Brodhead this year? Jack Phillips Raleigh, NC ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Isablcorky@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 12:00 PM To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Air Speed Pieters, Anyone familiar enough with the Aeronca 65 TAC to give me some idea as to what air speed I might expect solo? Thanks Corky ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from anywhere on the web. Get the Radio Toolbar! http://www.matronics.com/contribution href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.mat ronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-Listhref="http://forums.matronics.com">h ttp://forums.matronics.comhref="http://www.matronics.com/contribution"> http://www.matronics.com/c http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-Listhttp://forums.matronics. comhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 02:10:18 PM PST US From: "walt" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Air Speed Jack, Great vid on Youtube!! Wow, our colors are kind of the same ,looking down, the wheels are the same, eyebrows the same, jury struts the same. We're twins!!! Nice vid and nice flight. PS what is that water? walt evans NX140DL ----- Original Message ----- From: Jack Phillips To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 4:00 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Air Speed Yep, you're right about that Walt. I envy you with the light weight your Piet achieved. I've finally moved mine to an airport with a long enough runway that I can comfortably give rides in it. 3100' with good approaches. My wife shot some videos and put them on YouTube. Check them out here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dnb6y74I3nw Jack Phillips NX899JP ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of walt Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 3:51 PM To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Air Speed Jack, Another plea for building light. I was flying last weekend. At 2150 rpm on an A-65, I dropped the nose to get "into step" and indicating mid 80's. (checked with a GPS) At full throttle, I'm over 90 (MPH not age :^) ) build light. build light walt evans NX140DL ----- Original Message ----- From: Jack Phillips To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 12:39 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Air Speed It's been a long time, Corky, but as I recall, it was a little slower than a Cub, indicating about 70 mph (still faster than a Pietenpol). Good luck with it. Will you fly it to Brodhead this year? Jack Phillips Raleigh, NC ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Isablcorky@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 12:00 PM To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Air Speed Pieters, Anyone familiar enough with the Aeronca 65 TAC to give me some idea as to what air speed I might expect solo? Thanks Corky ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from anywhere on the web. Get the Radio Toolbar! http://www.matronics.com/contribution href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.mat ronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-Listhref="http://forums.matronics.com">h ttp://forums.matronics.comhref="http://www.matronics.com/contribution"> http://www.matronics.com/c http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-Listhttp://forums.matronics. comhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 02:33:50 PM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Air Speed Thanks, Walt. That water is Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia - right on the eastern edge of the Blue Ridge Mountains. Karen and I are in the process of building a big house there adjacent to the runway, and with a view of the water, which we will run as a Bed & Breakfast, catering primarily to pilots flying in to visit the lake. Karen created a website for it - check out: www.bedfordlandings.com . A free night's stay to anyone who flies a Pietenpol in! We hope to open the summer of 2010, but we've got to sell our house in North Carolina first. Jack Phillips NX899JP _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of walt Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 4:56 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Air Speed Jack, Great vid on Youtube!! Wow, our colors are kind of the same ,looking down, the wheels are the same, eyebrows the same, jury struts the same. We're twins!!! Nice vid and nice flight. PS what is that water? walt evans NX140DL ----- Original Message ----- From: Jack Phillips Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 4:00 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Air Speed Yep, you're right about that Walt. I envy you with the light weight your Piet achieved. I've finally moved mine to an airport with a long enough runway that I can comfortably give rides in it. 3100' with good approaches. My wife shot some videos and put them on YouTube. Check them out here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dnb6y74I3nw Jack Phillips NX899JP _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of walt Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 3:51 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Air Speed Jack, Another plea for building light. I was flying last weekend. At 2150 rpm on an A-65, I dropped the nose to get "into step" and indicating mid 80's. (checked with a GPS) At full throttle, I'm over 90 (MPH not age :^) ) build light. build light walt evans NX140DL ----- Original Message ----- From: Jack Phillips Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 12:39 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Air Speed It's been a long time, Corky, but as I recall, it was a little slower than a Cub, indicating about 70 mph (still faster than a Pietenpol). Good luck with it. Will you fly it to Brodhead this year? Jack Phillips Raleigh, NC _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Isablcorky@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 12:00 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Air Speed Pieters, Anyone familiar enough with the Aeronca 65 TAC to give me some idea as to what air speed I might expect solo? Thanks Corky _____ Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from anywhere on the web. Get the Radio Toolbar! http://www.matronics.com/contribution href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matronic s.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matronic s.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 02:54:36 PM PST US From: "TOM STINEMETZE" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Air Speed Jack: I just checked out your website and then found you on Google Earth. Looks like I'm going to have to find out how high the mountains are between McPherson, KS and Smith Mountain Lake. (In another "two" years when the Piet is done. Tom Stinemetze >>> "Jack Phillips" 4/28/2009 4:32 PM >>> Thanks, Walt. That water is Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia right on the eastern edge of the Blue Ridge Mountains. Karen and I are in the process of building a big house there adjacent to the runway, and with a view of the water, which we will run as a Bed & Breakfast, catering primarily to pilots flying in to visit the lake. Karen created a website for it check out: www.bedfordlandings.com ( http://www.bedfordlandings.com/ ) . A free nights stay to anyone who flies a Pietenpol in! We hope to open the summer of 2010, but weve got to sell our house in North Carolina first. Jack Phillips NX899JP From:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of walt Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 4:56 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Air Speed Jack, Great vid on Youtube!! Wow, our colors are kind of the same ,looking down, the wheels are the same, eyebrows the same, jury struts the same. We're twins!!! Nice vid and nice flight. PS what is that water? walt evans NX140DL ----- Original Message ----- From:Jack Phillips ( mailto:pietflyr@bellsouth.net ) To:pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent:Tuesday, April 28, 2009 4:00 PM Subject:RE: Pietenpol-List: Air Speed Yep, youre right about that Walt. I envy you with the light weight your Piet achieved. Ive finally moved mine to an airport with a long enough runway that I can comfortably give rides in it. 3100 with good approaches. My wife shot some videos and put them on YouTube. Check them out here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dnb6y74I3nw Jack Phillips NX899JP From:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of walt Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 3:51 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Air Speed Jack, Another plea for building light. I was flying last weekend. At 2150 rpm on an A-65, I dropped the nose to get "into step" and indicating mid 80's. (checked with a GPS) At full throttle, I'm over 90 (MPH not age :^) ) build light. build light walt evans NX140DL ----- Original Message ----- From:Jack Phillips ( mailto:pietflyr@bellsouth.net ) To:pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent:Tuesday, April 28, 2009 12:39 PM Subject:RE: Pietenpol-List: Air Speed Its been a long time, Corky, but as I recall, it was a little slower than a Cub, indicating about 70 mph (still faster than a Pietenpol). Good luck with it. Will you fly it to Brodhead this year? Jack Phillips Raleigh, NC From:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Isablcorky@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 12:00 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Air Speed Pieters, Anyone familiar enough with the Aeronca 65 TAC to give me some idea as to what air speed I might expect solo? Thanks Corky Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from anywhere on the web. Get the Radio Toolbar ( http://toolbar.aol.com/aolradio/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000003 )! http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-Listhref="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.comhref="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-Listhref="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.comhref="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Air Speed I can tell you exactly how high they are, since I fly over them fairly regularly in my RV-4, and a few times in the Pietenpol. The highest peaks due west of Smith Mountain Lake are about 5700'. If you drop a bit further south into North Carolina, you can find peaks up to 6684' (Mount Mitchell). This is about 6,000' above the surrounding terrain. Most of the mountains on my route to Brodhead are around 4500' or less. The terrain immediately west of Smith Mountain Lake, south of Roanoke, VA is some of the most rugged terrain I've ever flown over. Not a good place for a forced landing, but by going a bit north or a bit south, the terrain is much friendlier. Jack Phillips NX899JP _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of TOM STINEMETZE Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 5:54 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Air Speed Jack: I just checked out your website and then found you on Google Earth. Looks like I'm going to have to find out how high the mountains are between McPherson, KS and Smith Mountain Lake. (In another "two" years when the Piet is done. Tom Stinemetze >>> "Jack Phillips" 4/28/2009 4:32 PM >>> Thanks, Walt. That water is Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia - right on the eastern edge of the Blue Ridge Mountains. Karen and I are in the process of building a big house there adjacent to the runway, and with a view of the water, which we will run as a Bed & Breakfast, catering primarily to pilots flying in to visit the lake. Karen created a website for it - check out: www.bedfordlandings.com . A free night's stay to anyone who flies a Pietenpol in! We hope to open the summer of 2010, but we've got to sell our house in North Carolina first. Jack Phillips NX899JP _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of walt Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 4:56 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Air Speed Jack, Great vid on Youtube!! Wow, our colors are kind of the same ,looking down, the wheels are the same, eyebrows the same, jury struts the same. We're twins!!! Nice vid and nice flight. PS what is that water? walt evans NX140DL ----- Original Message ----- From: Jack Phillips Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 4:00 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Air Speed Yep, you're right about that Walt. I envy you with the light weight your Piet achieved. I've finally moved mine to an airport with a long enough runway that I can comfortably give rides in it. 3100' with good approaches. My wife shot some videos and put them on YouTube. Check them out here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dnb6y74I3nw Jack Phillips NX899JP _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of walt Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 3:51 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Air Speed Jack, Another plea for building light. I was flying last weekend. At 2150 rpm on an A-65, I dropped the nose to get "into step" and indicating mid 80's. (checked with a GPS) At full throttle, I'm over 90 (MPH not age :^) ) build light. build light walt evans NX140DL ----- Original Message ----- From: Jack Phillips Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 12:39 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Air Speed It's been a long time, Corky, but as I recall, it was a little slower than a Cub, indicating about 70 mph (still faster than a Pietenpol). Good luck with it. Will you fly it to Brodhead this year? Jack Phillips Raleigh, NC _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Isablcorky@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 12:00 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Air Speed Pieters, Anyone familiar enough with the Aeronca 65 TAC to give me some idea as to what air speed I might expect solo? Thanks Corky _____ Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from anywhere on the web. 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I hope I am the first to fly out from California to cash in on that free night. Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion Tail done, Fuselage ready for gear (13 ribs down.) _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack Phillips Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 2:32 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Air Speed Thanks, Walt. That water is Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia - right on the eastern edge of the Blue Ridge Mountains. Karen and I are in the process of building a big house there adjacent to the runway, and with a view of the water, which we will run as a Bed & Breakfast, catering primarily to pilots flying in to visit the lake. Karen created a website for it - check out: www.bedfordlandings.com . A free night's stay to anyone who flies a Pietenpol in! We hope to open the summer of 2010, but we've got to sell our house in North Carolina first. Jack Phillips NX899JP _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of walt Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 4:56 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Air Speed Jack, Great vid on Youtube!! Wow, our colors are kind of the same ,looking down, the wheels are the same, eyebrows the same, jury struts the same. We're twins!!! Nice vid and nice flight. PS what is that water? walt evans NX140DL ----- Original Message ----- From: Jack Phillips Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 4:00 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Air Speed Yep, you're right about that Walt. I envy you with the light weight your Piet achieved. I've finally moved mine to an airport with a long enough runway that I can comfortably give rides in it. 3100' with good approaches. My wife shot some videos and put them on YouTube. Check them out here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dnb6y74I3nw Jack Phillips NX899JP _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of walt Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 3:51 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Air Speed Jack, Another plea for building light. I was flying last weekend. At 2150 rpm on an A-65, I dropped the nose to get "into step" and indicating mid 80's. (checked with a GPS) At full throttle, I'm over 90 (MPH not age :^) ) build light. build light walt evans NX140DL ----- Original Message ----- From: Jack Phillips Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 12:39 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Air Speed It's been a long time, Corky, but as I recall, it was a little slower than a Cub, indicating about 70 mph (still faster than a Pietenpol). Good luck with it. Will you fly it to Brodhead this year? Jack Phillips Raleigh, NC _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Isablcorky@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 12:00 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Air Speed Pieters, Anyone familiar enough with the Aeronca 65 TAC to give me some idea as to what air speed I might expect solo? Thanks Corky _____ Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from anywhere on the web. Get the Radio Toolbar! http://www.matronics.com/contribution href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matronic s.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matronic s.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 04:39:49 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Zero messages?? From: "TriScout" Yeah.. and if they may be too lazy to fly their Piet to brodhead. I am more than willing to excersize their machine on their behalf and join the gaggle of thunder into Brodhead. I'm in Dallas.. even willing to jumpseat to where ever their Piet awaits.. heh heh *Just received my plans and ordered some wood from AircraftSpruce* Larry (another larry.. Dallas) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=241768#241768 ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 05:43:22 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead Dream'n.......The Great Waldo Pepper From: helspersew@aol.com "What happens if I don't like it????"..............................."If you really hate it, I'll give you a second ride free" ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 06:38:58 PM PST US From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: 220lb - passenger Gosh Walt....I would have never guessed you at 225 lbs. All the pics you have posted of yourself in your Piet makes it look like you're a thin fella who fits nicely in the cockpit. Shows how if you build it light you can still be a little heavier and carry adults. do not archive PS--headwinds down the runway help with heavier passengers too....not to mention days when it is cooler and the air is more dense. BIG difference in performance. ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 07:19:46 PM PST US From: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB" Subject: Re: RE: Pietenpol-List: 220lb - passenger Oscar Z. Took me up on a slightly above standard temp day. Oscar is not big but not little Probably a FAA adult. I was about 202 pounds about that time and his plane climbed out pretty quickly. We as Americans have gained weight in 1942 the FAA average weight standard for US adults was 140 LBS. Later raised to 160 then in 2003 raised to 174 (Add a few pounds for clothing. Oscar insisted!) Now the weight is 200 lbs including clothing and a carryon. Air transport Canada uses the following weights(These include clothes and carryons) Summer 200 lbs or 90.7 kg MALES 12yrs up 165 lbs or 74.8 kg FEMALES 12yrs up 75 lbs or 34 kg CHILDREN 2-11yrs 30 lbs or 13.6 kg *INFANTS 0 to less than 2yrs Blue Skies, Steve D ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: 220lb - passenger > RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]" < > > > Gosh Walt....I would have never guessed you at 225 lbs. All the pics you have posted of yourself in your Piet makes it look like you're > a thin fella who fits nicely in the cockpit. Shows how if you build it light you can still be a little heavier and carry adults. > > do not archive > > PS--headwinds down the runway help with heavier passengers too....not to mention days when it is cooler and the air is more dense. BIG difference in > performance. > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 07:36:01 PM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: RE: Pietenpol-List: 220lb - passenger We have carryons were I live, too; usually pecking away at something dead in the middle of the road.... Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion Tail done, Fuselage ready for gear (13 ribs down.) Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 7:19 PM Subject: Re: RE: Pietenpol-List: 220lb - passenger Oscar Z. Took me up on a slightly above standard temp day. Oscar is not big but not little Probably a FAA adult. I was about 202 pounds about that time and his plane climbed out pretty quickly. We as Americans have gained weight in 1942 the FAA average weight standard for US adults was 140 LBS. Later raised to 160 then in 2003 raised to 174 (Add a few pounds for clothing. Oscar insisted!) Now the weight is 200 lbs including clothing and a carryon. Air transport Canada uses the following weights(These include clothes and carryons) Summer 200 lbs or 90.7 kg MALES 12yrs up 165 lbs or 74.8 kg FEMALES 12yrs up 75 lbs or 34 kg CHILDREN 2-11yrs 30 lbs or 13.6 kg *INFANTS 0 to less than 2yrs Blue Skies, Steve D ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: 220lb - passenger > RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]" < > > > Gosh Walt....I would have never guessed you at 225 lbs. All the pics you have posted of yourself in your Piet makes it look like you're > a thin fella who fits nicely in the cockpit. Shows how if you build it light you can still be a little heavier and carry adults. > > do not archive > > PS--headwinds down the runway help with heavier passengers too....not to mention days when it is cooler and the air is more dense. BIG difference in > performance. > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 09:48:35 PM PST US From: "Clif Dawson" Subject: Pietenpol-List: carryons http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UejelYnVI3U&NR=1 > We have carryons were I live, too; usually pecking away at something dead > in > the middle of the road.... > > Gary Boothe ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 10:34:21 PM PST US From: "walt" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 220lb - passenger Nah, Got the scrauny thing going. But at 6'3" makes it hard to get into things. BUT,,, Life still is grand. do not archive walt evans NX140DL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]" Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 9:35 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: 220lb - passenger > Aerospace Corporation]" > > > Gosh Walt....I would have never guessed you at 225 lbs. All the pics > you have posted of yourself in your Piet makes it look like you're > a thin fella who fits nicely in the cockpit. Shows how if you build it > light you can still be a little heavier and carry adults. > > do not archive > > PS--headwinds down the runway help with heavier passengers too....not to > mention days when it is cooler and the air is more dense. BIG difference > in > performance. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.