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1. 05:54 AM - Firewall Construction (Oscar Zuniga)
2. 06:05 AM - Firewall Construction (Oscar Zuniga)
3. 06:07 AM - Re: Jack's first mountain landing on Mt Mitchell (TOM STINEMETZE)
4. 06:34 AM - Re: Firewall Construction (Rick Holland)
5. 08:20 AM - Firewall Construction (Oscar Zuniga)
6. 08:26 AM - Firewall Construction (Oscar Zuniga)
7. 09:09 AM - Re: Firewall Construction, fuse tank (shad bell)
8. 10:51 AM - Re: Firewall Construction (Rick Holland)
9. 11:11 AM - Re: Jack's first mountain landing on Mt Mitchell (TOM STINEMETZE)
10. 01:50 PM - Firewall Construction, fuse tank (Oscar Zuniga)
11. 01:59 PM - Mountain Flying (Pieti Lowell)
12. 02:34 PM - Firewall Construction, fuse tank (Oscar Zuniga)
13. 03:10 PM - Re: painting small numbers (Gene Rambo)
14. 04:22 PM - cowling pattern material (Douwe Blumberg)
15. 04:36 PM - Re: cowling pattern material (Gene Rambo)
16. 05:29 PM - Re: cowling pattern material (Don Emch)
17. 06:55 PM - Re: cowling pattern material (Rick Holland)
18. 07:07 PM - Re: cowling pattern material (Jack Phillips)
19. 10:33 PM - WARNING! CARB HEAT BOXES FROM A.S.S. (shad bell)
20. 10:52 PM - Re: cowling pattern material (Clif Dawson)
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| Subject: | Firewall Construction |
Paul=3B
You can see a couple of pix of how the firewall and framing are constructed
on 41CC here:
http://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/repairs/P4070001.JPG and
http://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/repairs/P3070009.JPG
On the backside of the stainless firewall=2C only the curved upper portion
has plywood behind it. Also note that the firewall is constructed in two p
ieces=2C which allows removing the lower section for access to the front ru
dder pedals and other things in the front cockpit. Just don't do what I di
d and forget that the lower engine mount points bolt through the firewall a
nd trap the section of firewall that is supposed to be removable =3Bo)
No ashtrays in 41CC but the front cockpit has an outside air temp gauge.
Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC
San Antonio=2C TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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| Subject: | Firewall Construction |
PS to that last post=2C I learned another lesson while rebuilding the firew
all and front framing on 41CC. If you have your fuel tank up in the front
=2C make sure you route any cables=2C controls=2C and wiring close enough t
o the fuselage sides to get them past the fuel tank. Working up in the wid
e-open front area without the fuel tank installed=2C I thought I had a huge
luxurious open space available to route wires and cables to the engine com
partment=2C forgetting about the fuel tank.
Tach cables in particular do not like to flex sharply.
Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC
San Antonio=2C TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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| Subject: | Re: Jack's first mountain landing on Mt Mitchell |
AARRUUGG! Those photos make me appreciate Kansas a WHOLE lot more.
Stinemetze in McPherson
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>>> "Gene & Tammy" <zharvey@bentoncountycable.net> 4/29/2009 5:10 PM >>>
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| Subject: | Re: Firewall Construction |
Oscar, did you put any fiberfrax behind your stainless? I think the Bengelis
books say you only need one or the other.
Rick
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 6:53 AM, Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Paul;
>
> You can see a couple of pix of how the firewall and framing are constructed
> on 41CC here:
> http://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/repairs/P4070001.JPG and
> http://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/repairs/P3070009.JPG
>
> On the backside of the stainless firewall, only the curved upper portion
> has plywood behind it. Also note that the firewall is constructed in two
> pieces, which allows removing the lower section for access to the front
> rudder pedals and other things in the front cockpit. Just don't do what I
> did and forget that the lower engine mount points bolt through the firewall
> and trap the section of firewall that is supposed to be removable ;o)
>
> No ashtrays in 41CC but the front cockpit has an outside air temp gauge.
>
> Oscar Zuniga
> Air Camper NX41CC
> San Antonio, TX
> mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
> website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
>
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
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Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
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| Subject: | Firewall Construction |
No fiberfrax behind the stainless on my firewall.
Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC
San Antonio=2C TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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| Subject: | Firewall Construction |
No fiberfrax behind the stainless on my firewall.
Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC
San Antonio=2C TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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| Subject: | Re: Firewall Construction, fuse tank |
One idea I have seen for routing a tach cable is to run it right through th
e fuel tank.- When you build the tank you simply build it with an aluminu
m tube running through the front-back of the tank, (it-stays out of the f
uel).- Not sure how nessasary it is to have a streight run but the plans
for my Jungster show a 1 inch tube in the tank for the tach.
-
Just an Idea,
Shad=0A=0A=0A
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| Subject: | Re: Firewall Construction |
Oscar, did you put any fiberfrax behind your stainless? I think the Bengelis
books say you only need one or the other.
Rick
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 6:53 AM, Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Paul;
>
> You can see a couple of pix of how the firewall and framing are constructed
> on 41CC here:
> http://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/repairs/P4070001.JPG and
> http://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/repairs/P3070009.JPG
>
> On the backside of the stainless firewall, only the curved upper portion
> has plywood behind it. Also note that the firewall is constructed in two
> pieces, which allows removing the lower section for access to the front
> rudder pedals and other things in the front cockpit. Just don't do what I
> did and forget that the lower engine mount points bolt through the firewall
> and trap the section of firewall that is supposed to be removable ;o)
>
> No ashtrays in 41CC but the front cockpit has an outside air temp gauge.
>
> Oscar Zuniga
> Air Camper NX41CC
> San Antonio, TX
> mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
> website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
>
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
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Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
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| Subject: | Re: Jack's first mountain landing on Mt Mitchell |
AARRUUGG! Those photos make me appreciate Kansas a WHOLE lot more.
Stinemetze in McPherson
do not archive
>>> "Gene & Tammy" <zharvey@bentoncountycable.net> 4/29/2009 5:10 PM >>>
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| Subject: | Firewall Construction, fuse tank |
Boy=2C Shad- a tube through the fuel tank would make my installation just d
andy. The tach cable has to offset=2C as you can see from the photo taken
directly above my firewall=2C you can see the amount of offset that could b
e avoided. Photo at http://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/repairs/P310002.JPG
Actually=2C if I were to install a tube through the tank I think I'd put it
an angle =3Bo) My tach cable is stretched to its max limits and I really
need to get a longer one=2C but it would have to be a custom length. I thi
nk mine is a standard 48" long one and 60" is too long so I'd need a custom
one.
Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC
San Antonio=2C TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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Hi Gang:
If any one is concerned about getting over a mountain 8000 ft. or more, try this
combination that I tried a few years ago. Altitude wasn't any problem but fuel
consumption was. That is a 145 plus HP Warner, when it was installed I never
changed wing position, and it weighted 50 lbs more than my Ford. Flew strong
and fast.
Pieti Lowell
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| Subject: | Firewall Construction, fuse tank |
Oops... I guess that last weblink should have been
http://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/repairs/P3170002.JPG
The tach cable is the heavy black one feeding out the back of the engine.
Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC
San Antonio=2C TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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| Subject: | Re: painting small numbers |
Kind of late noticing/responding to this one, but I have always painted
small numbers with an enamel spray can. As long as the numbers are
going to be a generic color, like white or black, I see no reason why
not. The spray can numbers have been on my Travel Air rudder for nearly
twenty years (cotton and dope) and is still as flexible as the day I
painted it. No cracking or peeling. I have done this on a number of
fabric aircraft with both dope and poly spray and never had a problem.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Douwe Blumberg<mailto:douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
To: pietenpolgroup<mailto:pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 6:35 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: painting small numbers
<douweblumberg@earthlink.net<mailto:douweblumberg@earthlink.net>>
Hey,
I'm using dope on my plane and was wondering if I can use enamel for
the
small tail numbers.
I know it'll stick fine, but I'm wondering if it'll flake off over
time or
is it pliable enough to use there.
I know sign painters enamel works, I'm wondering about randolf enamel.
Douwe
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| Subject: | cowling pattern material |
I'm getting ready to start the cowlings. Anybody have some recommendations
for good types and sources of appropriate cardboard?
Thanks,
Douw
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| Subject: | Re: cowling pattern material |
the thing I have found that works best is called "chipboard" and it is
the stuff that printing companies use to make the back on notepads and
legal pads. it is stiff enough to hold a curve without buckling, but
not too stiff. I used to find it at a stationery shop in sheets
something like 24x30, and when taped together with packing tape, could
be made into large patterns without folding on the joints.
Now, can I find the stuff around Falls Church where I live now? H#^L
NO!
Gene
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From: Douwe Blumberg<mailto:douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
To: pietenpolgroup<mailto:pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 7:24 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: cowling pattern material
<douweblumberg@earthlink.net<mailto:douweblumberg@earthlink.net>>
I'm getting ready to start the cowlings. Anybody have some
recommendations
for good types and sources of appropriate cardboard?
Thanks,
Douw
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| Subject: | Re: cowling pattern material |
Gene,
How is your project coming along? Any pictures?
Don Emch
NX899DE
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| Subject: | Re: cowling pattern material |
Poster board at WalMart worked for me.
rh
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Douwe Blumberg <douweblumberg@earthlink.net
> wrote:
> douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
>
> I'm getting ready to start the cowlings. Anybody have some recommendations
> for good types and sources of appropriate cardboard?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Douw
>
>
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Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
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| Subject: | cowling pattern material |
I used matt board from an art supply store - the stuff they use to matt
picture frames. Good and stiff, and available in bigger sizes than poster
board.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Douwe
Blumberg
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 7:25 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: cowling pattern material
<douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
I'm getting ready to start the cowlings. Anybody have some recommendations
for good types and sources of appropriate cardboard?
Thanks,
Douw
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| Subject: | WARNING! CARB HEAT BOXES FROM A.S.S. |
Group, Anyone who has a Aircraft Spruce A.S.- carb heat box look out!-
While Starting the oil change, Annual cond. inspection on the piet (179 hrs
tt)I noticed the carb heat box is broken.- The weld, or braze joint? ( n
ot sure what the hell it is?) that holds the carb heat box to the carb is b
roke clean at the weld joint.- It looks like the round tube is welded to
a flange and ground flat for the gasket, and at the box joint it is spot we
lded.-- Any way, look out for a failed joint in the welding, i noticed
this by grabing the carb heat box and wiggling it, the box litterally came
off in my hand, only held on by the carb heat control cable and exaust scat
hose!- I will try to contact A.S.S. tommorow after talking to Dad (he bo
ught it from them) and see if they will make it right, my guess probbably n
ot, made in china is my guess.- For all of you who have bought one alread
y, just weld the joint where the carb attatch flange tube meets the heat
box, and weld around the circumfrence and you should be OK.- Comparing t
he "Hombuilder's Special" to an older heat box off of a Piper Colt, it look
s like they took all the short cuts on quality and safty/ dependability, an
d craftmenship.- I hope this saves someone's ass before it gets expensive
.- This particular heat box is one for the Marvel Schebler MA3SPA carb, s
imilar if not identical to a c-,85, 0-200.- With a Corvair, carb heat can
be exspecially important.- Please pass this on to fellow homebuilders as
it might save there bacon.
-
Shad
-
Hope to be flying in 2 weeks or less!=0A=0A=0A
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| Subject: | Re: cowling pattern material |
Yes and in various colours too if you so desire.
Standard size is 32" X 40".
I am in the throws of preliminary cowling design for
my newly acquired O-290.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 6:59 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: cowling pattern material
> <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
>
> I used matt board from an art supply store - the stuff they use to matt
> picture frames. Good and stiff, and available in bigger sizes than poster
> board.
>
> Jack Phillips
> NX899JP
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Douwe
> Blumberg
> Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 7:25 PM
> To: pietenpolgroup
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: cowling pattern material
>
> <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
>
> I'm getting ready to start the cowlings. Anybody have some
> recommendations
> for good types and sources of appropriate cardboard?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Douw
>
>
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