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1. 04:38 AM - Re: ANY BUILDERS NEAR PENSACOLA? (helspersew@aol.com)
2. 04:51 AM - Re: Walt-- rudder offset (Dan Yocum)
3. 05:48 AM - Re: Summer blows! (Michael Perez)
4. 05:49 AM - Re: Summer blows! (Michael Perez)
5. 05:51 AM - Horizontal Stab diminsion question (Jim Quinn)
6. 06:57 AM - Re: Walt-- rudder offset (Pieti Lowell)
7. 07:51 AM - Re: Piet Ride? (TriScout)
8. 07:59 AM - Re: Horizontal Stab diminsion question (Catdesigns)
9. 10:18 AM - Re: Re: Piet Ride? (Andrew M Eldredge)
10. 10:47 AM - Re: latest OSH email from EAA (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
11. 11:05 AM - Piet endurance (helspersew@aol.com)
12. 11:24 AM - Re: Compared Weight to Model A engine (Bill Church)
13. 11:27 AM - Re: Piet endurance (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
14. 11:54 AM - plywood seats and John Recine (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation])
15. 11:58 AM - Re: piet mods- How much is too much? (womenfly2)
16. 12:15 PM - Re: plywood seats and John Recine (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
17. 12:39 PM - Re: plywood seats and John Recine (John Hofmann)
18. 01:09 PM - Lost papers of BHP- seat design (helspersew@aol.com)
19. 01:50 PM - Re: plywood seats and John Recine (gcardinal@comcast.net)
20. 01:52 PM - Re: Lost papers of BHP- seat design (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
21. 01:55 PM - Re: plywood seats and John Recine (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
22. 01:59 PM - Re: Re: Piet Ride? (Jack Phillips)
23. 03:21 PM - Re: Re: I am thinking about using this engine in an Aircamper (Mac Zirges)
24. 09:12 PM - Re: Re: Horizontal Stab diminsion question (Jim Quinn)
25. 09:59 PM - Re: Re: I am thinking about using this engine in an Aircamper (jorge lizarraga)
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| Subject: | Re: ANY BUILDERS NEAR PENSACOLA? |
Jerry,
Addressing the one-piece wing: I have built, and am in the process of covering/painting
the one-piece. I love it because of it's originality and simplicity.
It does create handling problems because of space issues. I do have a large hangar,
but you know how that goes....no matter how much space you have it always
seems to get filled up with something. BUT overall I am glad I went with the
one-piece, mostly because I am somewhat of a purist.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL
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From: Jerry Dotson <jdotson@erec.net>
Sent: Tue, 12 May 2009 3:13 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: ANY BUILDERS NEAR PENSACOLA?
I am wanting to start a Pietenpol soon. Any builders or owners near Pensacola,
FL?? I would buy a project if near me and all spruce and MIL-SPEC plywood. I am
going with Continental power. Probably an O-200. What about 3 piece wing versus
1 piece? I have room to build either way.
Jerry Dotson
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| Subject: | Re: Walt-- rudder offset |
It looks like a picture of a picture - there's a signature on the top
and wood frame on the left. If I recall correctly, that feature is in
Arches National Park, Utah. Other than those observations, I know
nothing about the picture.
I asked the owner if the scenery in the rest of the pictures comes with
the purchase of the plane. Apparently, only if I move out of the Midwest...
Cheers,
Dan
Clif Dawson wrote:
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> You didn't really think I could resist looking through
> the rest of the pics did you?
>
> So what's up with #182?? :-)
>
> Clif
>
>>
>> Mike, Walt,
>>
>> I'd like some more of your thoughts on this subject. Take a look at the
>> following picture (try to ignore the Grand Canyon in the background):
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>> http://picasaweb.google.com/TresClements/PietenpolTrip#5254282417937096754
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Fermilab 630.840.6509
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You may be right Jack. I'll have to hurry this project up and find out.
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For me, low at any speed is cool. I'll start with the slower Pietenpol for
now and see what comes in the future.
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| Subject: | Re: Summer blows! |
Copy that John! Looks to be a loooong Summer...
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I have to agree with ya Mike, I can get 16 hours in on Saturday and Sunday
during the winter and 30 to 45 minutes a month in the summer to build my Pi
et
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John
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| Subject: | Horizontal Stab diminsion question |
Are the side pieces on the hort. stab 1 x1 boards or 1 x 3/4?
Thanks,
Jim
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| Subject: | Re: Walt-- rudder offset |
Dan,
After clicking on your Grand Canyon photos , I was amazed at the great
shots , 222 photos in all, what a tour !!!, The shot of the airplane shooting
through the stone arch, is great. How many "lists" guys hit the arrows above the
rudder shot to get a great trip in a Piet,
By the way, check the rigging first, second, a tab on the rudder will help take
your foot off the rudder. Either way you wont miss the great flights to come.
Pieti Lowell
PS. This picture is of the plane I'm planning to buy so I have a vested
interested in the proposed solution.
Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation] wrote:
> I totally agree with Walt Evansthere is no need for rudder offset if
> you rig your plane right and build in
>
> offset when you make your motor mount. If you go thru the Tony
> Bingelis flight test notes of how to test
>
> your homebuilt he gives a step-by-step sequence of how rig your plane
> from how it flies with regard to ball
>
> offset, drift, etc. What you may be correcting for with rudder could
> very well be an error in the rigging of
>
> your wings----or twist in your horizontal stabilizer that you didnt
> true up quite perfectly.
>
>
>
> After all was said and done I added a small aluminum trim tab on my
> rudder to get hands-off cruise for folding
>
> charts and fumbling with things in the cockpit during x-country flights
> but the tab only has the slightest of offset.
>
>
>
> Mike C.
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> *
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> *
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Thanks Steve, Jack for the replies..
I freight-dog it thru Dover mostly as of late, before heading over the pond w/quick
layover usually, but thanks for your generosity Jack. And Steve, thanks as
well. I'm kind of looking for something more local (w/in 2hrs drive) than Oklahoma,
but I'm definately planning to slip into Brodhead this year, if I my sched
permits. Mybe I can requisition a joy ride there :D
p.s.
I'm liking the Yellow Piet as well as Jacks. Thought I saw it on youtube before.
My goal when I build mine is a 3-piec wing, 3/4 inch, unroutered simple spar,
Conti-powered like both of yours, x-c ability (extra fuel), antique charm/gauges.
I'm liking both the wooden and the cub style to the gear. Probably leaning
toward Jack's gear for antique look. Otherwise, I'll plan to follow the rule
of "keep in stupid, simple"
Lar
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| Subject: | Re: Horizontal Stab diminsion question |
Jim, this is how I did it
http://www.westcoastpiet.com/images/Chris%20Tracy/Tail_Wood_Piece_Location.jpg
Chris
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Chris Tracy
Sacramento, CA
WestCoastPiet.com
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I think the Piet's main XC limitation is not the fuel tank, but rather the
lack of a sufficiently soft chair.
Andrew
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 7:50 AM, TriScout <apfelcyber@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks Steve, Jack for the replies..
>
> I freight-dog it thru Dover mostly as of late, before heading over the pond
> w/quick layover usually, but thanks for your generosity Jack. And Steve,
> thanks as well. I'm kind of looking for something more local (w/in 2hrs
> drive) than Oklahoma, but I'm definately planning to slip into Brodhead this
> year, if I my sched permits. Mybe I can requisition a joy ride there :D
>
> p.s.
> I'm liking the Yellow Piet as well as Jacks. Thought I saw it on youtube
> before. My goal when I build mine is a 3-piec wing, 3/4 inch, unroutered
> simple spar, Conti-powered like both of yours, x-c ability (extra fuel),
> antique charm/gauges. I'm liking both the wooden and the cub style to the
> gear. Probably leaning toward Jack's gear for antique look. Otherwise, I'll
> plan to follow the rule of "keep in stupid, simple"
>
> Lar
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=243875#243875
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>
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| Subject: | Re: latest OSH email from EAA |
Dick,
With as many times as I have see your Piet, I am certain that it is
quickly becoming the identifying bird for the flock. You need to begin
collecting royalty fees soon. Pictures do not do it justice.
John
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I have a wicker seat I laced. It seems comfortable enough on my trial sits, but
time will tell how it will work in the field. I don't recall having seen anyone
else with wicker on the seat part.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL
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| Subject: | Compared Weight to Model A engine |
In general, just about anything that makes the plane lighter is a good
thing...
However... in order to fly, your plane will need a weight and balance
calculation, and with a lighter engine, you'll likely need a longer
motor mount. The lighter the engine, the longer the mount.
Something to think about.
Just want to avoid looking something like this (an anteater comes to
mind):
________________________________
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jamie
Stevens
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 6:15 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Compared Weight to Model A engine
To the list>
I'm comparing engines to the weight of the Model A...
I'm building using the original BP Pietenpol plans...
first...what is the weight of the Model A...
Compared to the Jabiru 2200 85hp weight 140# complete (includes exhaust,
carburetor, starter motor, alternator and ignition system)
more power less weight...
anyone using the Jabiru 2200? any opinions?
Jamie Stevens
Whiteman Airport WHP
"fuselage, empannage and ribs done"
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| Subject: | Re: Piet endurance |
Dan knowing the purist you are I am certain that the seat was part of
Bernard's unpublished original extra secret comfort design seating
You know I just couldn't help myself
John
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| Subject: | plywood seats and John Recine |
knowing the purist you are I am certain that the seat was part of Bernard's
unpublished original extra secret comfort design seating
You know I just couldn't help myself
John
You know folks, if you've never met John Recine in person be certain to avo
id him at all costs if going to Brodhead. This guy will
take you under, you'll end up in the Green County Courthouse by Saturday at
noon. Here's a wanted poster in the making from a photo
I took of John Hoffman and John last summer at Brodhead. Actually John's
not a trouble maker at all and has a great sense of humor.
(he certainly was gracious with us harassing him after just meeting him-ask
John !)
I'm not sure what various types of seat designs that Mr. Bernard H. Pietenp
ol used on his 26 variants of the Pietenpol Air Camper (to include
using a V-8 engine on one, tailwheel and radio on another and modern 1940's
Cub engine on a few) but the plywood slab seats aren't too
bad if you've got some natural padding. I'm sure the wicker is going to
look nice Dan and if not mistaken don't you have cane inserts on
one or both of your seats Greg Cardinal on your and Dale's Pietenpol ?
PS-here's an additional tip about John Recine. Get in front of him durin
g the Saturday night Brodhead pork chop dinner:)
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Re: piet mods- How much is too much? |
To add my 2-cents here. I would say it is NOT a Pietenpol if it deviates from the
basic outline of the plan form that Bernie designed including all his various
design iterations of the Piet too.
Building materials does not matter, nor does how it is constructed but, changing
the shape of the outline of any parts, i.e. wing, tail, fuselage, would fall
into this " is NOT a Pietenpol" category.
Cheers,
Keri-Ann
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| Subject: | Re: plywood seats and John Recine |
FYI, John R is the good looking one!
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| Subject: | Re: plywood seats and John Recine |
I resemble that remark!
"If you carry my gas can into town, I'll give you a free lesson at the
end of the day."
To paraphrase Red Green: "If they can't find you handsome, at least
they can find you handy."
Do not archive
John Hofmann
Vice-President, Information Technology
The Rees Group, Inc.
2810 Crossroads Drive, Ste 3800
Madison, WI 53718
Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
Fax: 608.443.2474
Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
On May 13, 2009, at 2:13 PM, AMsafetyC@aol.com wrote:
> FYI, John R is the good looking one!
>
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| Subject: | Lost papers of BHP- seat design |
John,
How did you know about the lost papers of BHP describing the wicker seat design
I followed? I must have let it leak out last year at Brodhead (after a few brewskis).
Dan Heslper
Poplar Grove, IL
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| Subject: | Re: plywood seats and John Recine |
NX18235 has wicker on the seat backs only, not the seat. Stepping on the se
at is the normal procedure for entering and exiting, not sure how the wicke
r will hold up being stepped on.
Greg
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From: "Michael D. Cuy (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]" <michael.d.cu
y@nasa.gov>
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 1:52:44 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Pietenpol-List: plywood seats and John Recine
knowing the purist you are I am certain that the seat was part of Bernard's
unpublished original extra secret comfort design seating=C2-
You know I just couldn't help myself
John
You know folks, if you=99ve never met John Recine in person be certai
n to avoid him at all costs if going to Brodhead.=C2-=C2- This guy will
take you under, you=99ll end up in the Green County Courthouse by Sat
urday at noon.=C2-=C2- Here=99s a wanted poster in the making fro
m a photo
I took of John Hoffman and John last summer at Brodhead.=C2-=C2-=C2-
Actually John=99s not a trouble maker at all and has a great sense of
humor.
(he certainly was gracious with us harassing him after just meeting him
=94ask John !)=C2-=C2-
I=99m not sure what various types of seat designs that Mr. Bernard H.
Pietenpol used on his 26 variants of the Pietenpol Air Camper (to include
using a V-8 engine on one, tailwheel and radio on another and modern 1940
=99s Cub engine on a few) but the plywood slab seats aren=99t t
oo
bad if you=99ve got some natural padding.=C2-=C2- =C2-I
=99m sure the wicker is going to look nice Dan and if not mistaken don
=99t you have cane inserts on
one or both of your seats Greg Cardinal on your and Dale=99s Pietenpo
l ?
PS=94here=99s an additional tip about John Recine.=C2-=C2-
Get in=C2- front of him during the Saturday night Brodhead pork chop dinn
er J
Mike C.
=C2-
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| Subject: | Re: Lost papers of BHP- seat design |
Geez Dan
I always suspected you had them I just never thought you would go public
with that info, now everyone is gonna know! They will be lined up at your
door, having the lost papers is worse than being stuck with the da Vinci
papers.
Everyone wants to know what Bernard was thinking,
Only a few can actually read Italian or care to read those papers
My friend I suggest you get rid of them now before its too late.
John
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| Subject: | Re: plywood seats and John Recine |
I am certain Dan has already did the weigh comparisons between himself and
Bernard having flown with Dan I can attest that he is of proper design size
and weight.
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Mine has 2" thick temperfoam cushions with leather upholstery. I flew it 13
hours straight to get to Brodhead last year (with 4 stops for fuel). I
would say the main XC limitation is its innate lack of speed.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Raleigh, NC
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Andrew M
Eldredge
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Piet Ride?
I think the Piet's main XC limitation is not the fuel tank, but rather the
lack of a sufficiently soft chair.
Andrew
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 7:50 AM, TriScout <apfelcyber@yahoo.com> wrote:
Thanks Steve, Jack for the replies..
I freight-dog it thru Dover mostly as of late, before heading over the pond
w/quick layover usually, but thanks for your generosity Jack. And Steve,
thanks as well. I'm kind of looking for something more local (w/in 2hrs
drive) than Oklahoma, but I'm definately planning to slip into Brodhead this
year, if I my sched permits. Mybe I can requisition a joy ride there :D
p.s.
I'm liking the Yellow Piet as well as Jacks. Thought I saw it on youtube
before. My goal when I build mine is a 3-piec wing, 3/4 inch, unroutered
simple spar, Conti-powered like both of yours, x-c ability (extra fuel),
antique charm/gauges. I'm liking both the wooden and the cub style to the
gear. Probably leaning toward Jack's gear for antique look. Otherwise, I'll
plan to follow the rule of "keep in stupid, simple"
Lar
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| Subject: | Re: I am thinking about using this engine in an Aircamper |
Jorge--
Many years ago, during the 1970's I think, a canadian named Ed Lubitz
brought a Fiesta-powered Piet to Oshkosh several years in a row. It had
a rubber cog-type belt drive to get prop RPM down while letting the
engine spin up to rated horsepower for takeoff. It flew well and I
personally measured several takeoffs comparable to a Piper Super Cub!
It was a kick to watch since it seemed to levitate. He marketed plans
for the belt drive for several years and I was going to use it on my
Piet, but Fiestas are no longer available in the US and so I have gone
back to the Ford A engine.
Mac in Oregon
----- Original Message -----
From: jorge lizarraga
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 8:50 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: I am thinking about using this engine
in an Aircamper
hello im build a piet in these moment and you take my attention
can you telmy more about ford fiesta engines for piet tanks jorge
--- On Sun, 5/10/09, Pieti Lowell <Lowellcfrank@yahoo.com>
wrote:
From: Pieti Lowell <Lowellcfrank@yahoo.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: I am thinking about using this
engine in an Aircamper
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Date: Sunday, May 10, 2009, 12:39 PM
<Lowellcfrank@yahoo.com>
My opinion would be, test stand proof.
Prop pitch to turn 2400 RPM
Remove all steel that is replaceable with Al.Pan, rocker cover etc.
I think that is a vacuum pump under the fuel pump, got to go.
Replace pulleys that are required with Al.
Compare this engine to a Ford Fiesta, on a Piet flown from the East
coast to
Brodhead.
The weight can be trimmed to be Pietenpol worthy, but I think it may be
a bit
shy on CIs. to haul 2 heavies on a warm day.
It will be a smooth runner, at 2200 RPM.
The spark advance must return to retard, or she will snap a finger or
two, with
the Ign. system I see, when hand started.
Pieti Lowell
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| Subject: | Re: Horizontal Stab diminsion question |
Thanks Chris, that helps a ton!
Jim
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From: "Catdesigns" <Catdesigns@att.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 9:59 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Horizontal Stab diminsion question
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> Jim, this is how I did it
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> http://www.westcoastpiet.com/images/Chris%20Tracy/Tail_Wood_Piece_Location.jpg
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> Chris
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> Sacramento, CA
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| Subject: | Re: I am thinking about using this engine in an Aircamper |
tanks so mouch for the inform I tink comeng back too about another a65 or c
orvier orso tanks again jorge
--- On Mon, 1/1/90, Mac Zirges <macz@casco.net> wrote:
From: Mac Zirges <macz@casco.net>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: I am thinking about using this engine in a
n Aircamper
Jorge--
Many years ago, during the 1970's I think, a canadian named Ed Lubitz broug
ht a Fiesta-powered Piet to Oshkosh several years in a row.- It had a rub
ber cog-type belt drive to get prop RPM down while letting the engine spin
up to rated horsepower for takeoff.- It flew well and I personally measur
ed several takeoffs comparable to a Piper Super Cub!- It was a kick to wa
tch since it seemed to levitate.- He marketed plans for the belt drive fo
r several years and I was going to use it on my Piet, but Fiestas are no lo
nger available in the US and so I have gone back to the Ford A engine.
-
Mac in Oregon
----- Original Message -----
From: jorge lizarraga
Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 8:50 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: I am thinking about using this engine in a
n Aircamper
hello im build a piet in these moment and you take my attention can you tel
my more about ford fiesta engines for piet tanks jorge
--- On Sun, 5/10/09, Pieti Lowell <Lowellcfrank@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Pieti Lowell <Lowellcfrank@yahoo.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: I am thinking about using this engine in an Ai
rcamper
<Lowellcfrank@yahoo.com>
My opinion would be, test stand proof.
Prop pitch to turn 2400 RPM
Remove all steel that is replaceable with Al.Pan, rocker cover etc.
I think that is a vacuum pump under the fuel pump, got to go.
Replace pulleys that are required with Al.
Compare this engine to a Ford Fiesta, on a Piet flown from the East coast t
o
Brodhead.
The weight can be trimmed to be Pietenpol worthy, but I think it may be a b
it
shy on CIs. to haul 2 heavies on a warm day.
It will be a smooth runner, at 2200 RPM.
The spark advance must return to retard, or she will snap a finger or two,
with
the Ign. system I see, when hand started.
Pieti Lowell
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