---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 05/18/09: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:12 AM - Re: rudder cables it's done (Michael Perez) 2. 07:49 AM - Barber Field, Alliance, OH Auto Engine Conversion Fly-In (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]) 3. 08:34 AM - EAA Sport Aviation Magazine article on six builders from GA (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]) 4. 10:08 AM - Re: EAA Sport Aviation Magazine article on six builders from GA (K5YAC) 5. 03:19 PM - Re: Re: EAA Sport Aviation Magazine article on six builders from GA (gcardinal) 6. 04:10 PM - Re: Barber Field, Alliance, OH Auto Engine Conversion Fly-In (Kip and Beth Gardner) 7. 04:45 PM - Re: EAA Sport Aviation Magazine article on six builders from GA (TriScout) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:12:10 AM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: rudder cables it's done I agree Shad. For running rudder cables under the stab, that's what we did.- Works fine , and looks better in my opinion.- It also makes running seperate tailwhe el cables easier.- The only bennifit to runing them to the middle (origin al design) is equal load on the hinges (in therory), at least as far as I c an tell.- If you want them under the stab go for it, it won't hurt anythi ng.- Look at any other homebuilt design and 99% have the rudder horn unde r the horiz stab.- I remember talking Dad into running the cables "down l ow" (at a young age of 21)-to make the airplane look more streamlined.- Do what you want, use your own God given common sense, and some "Tribal Kn owlage", and you will be just fine with this little, simple, forgiving airp lane design.- My only advise for building this airplane, and getting it d one is; Don't over analize this design, just look at what it is and build i t to suite yourself.- It is NOT the space shuttle, or SR-71.- Cable pul ls left or right, up or down, does not bind works good so it is good.- If t he original design works than don't fix it.-Use good practices and techni ques, but don't over design the simplicty.- Yes, if your not sure ask, bu t the plans, or design is NOT perfect, if you see room for improvement, imp rove it if you have the knowlage or ability.- A pietenpol is not a compli cated machine, about as complicated as a barn door. - Shad - ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:49:40 AM PST US From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Barber Field, Alliance, OH Auto Engine Conversion Fly-In Are you allowed to fly into this fly-in if you have an actual aircraft engine:) ? do not archive ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:34:42 AM PST US From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]" Subject: Pietenpol-List: EAA Sport Aviation Magazine article on six builders from GA Please ignore if already posted, otherwise enjoy the various uses of Bernar d, Bernie, Piet and Pietenpol ! Mike C. Big Piet Builders Six build Bernie's Pietenpol All of us bifocal wearers have difficulty reading the instruments, so we tilted the seat back 4 inches at the top. Along with adjustable rudder pedals, we fit down inside the cockpit with all the comfort of your favorite recliner. We were not worried about these changes, because Bernie was always changing the Pietenpol as new ideas came out. In conversation with Don Pietenpol, Bernie's son, he said his dad never built any two exactly alike. http://www.sportaviationonline.org/sportaviation/200905/?pm=2&z=fw&pvie ww=992&zin=175&u1=texterity&pg=67&fm=1 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:08:42 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: EAA Sport Aviation Magazine article on six builders from GA From: "K5YAC" Great article. I've been wondering about something for several weeks since I first read this article, perhaps you guys can provide an answer. When I look at the photo of the wing rib on page 66 (lower left), I see that the leading edge is done a bit differently than mine. I am using the original Bernie plans, which call for a 1/2" x 1/2" block reinforced with a small gusset. These guys have a notched leading edge with a fully sheeted area in front of the spar. Is this just a different technique or different plans? I like the way theirs look... just wondering if I should have done that too? It also looks like the spacing for their spar is likely 1". I built my wing ribs to accept a 3/4" spar as I have read that the 3/4" is sufficient. This is correct, right? I guess I'm just second guessing my techniques since their build looks a little different than mine. -------- Mark Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=244526#244526 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 03:19:41 PM PST US From: "gcardinal" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: EAA Sport Aviation Magazine article on six builders from GA 3/4 inch spar will work just fine. Greg C. ----- Original Message ----- From: "K5YAC" Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 12:03 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: EAA Sport Aviation Magazine article on six builders from GA > > Great article. > > I've been wondering about something for several weeks since I first read > this article, perhaps you guys can provide an answer. When I look at the > photo of the wing rib on page 66 (lower left), I see that the leading edge > is done a bit differently than mine. I am using the original Bernie > plans, which call for a 1/2" x 1/2" block reinforced with a small gusset. > These guys have a notched leading edge with a fully sheeted area in front > of the spar. Is this just a different technique or different plans? I > like the way theirs look... just wondering if I should have done that too? > > It also looks like the spacing for their spar is likely 1". I built my > wing ribs to accept a 3/4" spar as I have read that the 3/4" is > sufficient. This is correct, right? > > I guess I'm just second guessing my techniques since their build looks a > little different than mine. > > -------- > Mark > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=244526#244526 > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 04:10:07 PM PST US From: Kip and Beth Gardner Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Barber Field, Alliance, OH Auto Engine Conversion Fly-In Mikee, Sure, we love to have the unenlightened join us. ;). Kip Gardner REALLY DO NOT ARCHIVE On May 18, 2009, at 10:46 AM, Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation] wrote: > [ASRC Aerospace Corporation]" > > Are you allowed to fly into this fly-in if you have an actual > aircraft engine:) ? > > > do not archive > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 04:45:22 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: EAA Sport Aviation Magazine article on six builders from GA From: "TriScout" Did my second rib today. I tailored mine for the 3/4" spar as well. Looks like I put my brass nails in same spot as you also (heh heh). As they say, Great minds think alike.. 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