---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 05/23/09: 9 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:55 AM - intersection takeoff (Oscar Zuniga) 2. 10:23 AM - Model A (Ameet Savant) 3. 10:51 AM - Re: ANY BUILDERS NEAR PENSACOLA? (jimcarriere) 4. 11:42 AM - Re: Model A (Chet's Mail) 5. 06:12 PM - three tenths flight time (Oscar Zuniga) 6. 08:20 PM - Re: three tenths flight time (Pieti Lowell) 7. 08:35 PM - Re: Model A (ALAN LYSCARS) 8. 09:52 PM - Re: Model A (jorge lizarraga) 9. 10:03 PM - california (jorge lizarraga) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:55:48 AM PST US From: Oscar Zuniga Subject: Pietenpol-List: intersection takeoff My instructor/mentor has taken 41CC off at Zapata County airport by applyin g full throttle where the parking apron meets the intersection taxiway and has gotten airborne before getting to the runway. He's the airport manager there so I guess he can do that =3Bo) I would try it at San Geronimo=2C my home base=2C except there is a fence a nd a windsock on a pole straight ahead of me as I taxi out from my hangar t o the runway. Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC San Antonio=2C TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 10:23:14 AM PST US From: Ameet Savant Subject: Pietenpol-List: Model A Hello everyone, I was on vacation for a month or so and finally am caught up with the 600 or so posts on the Pietenpol list. It is truly amazing how active this group is. For flying low and slow we do seem to post like the fast and furious! Anyway, like every builder, I am contemplating engine choices for my yet to be started Pietenpol. I never thought I would consider the Ford Model A mainly because I am not that much of a purist. However, when opportunity knocks, who am I to ignore? I ran into the local Model A club member (while getting my car windshield replaced- whole other story) and he has a 1928 Model A engine block that he is willing to part for free. Given my gross ignorance about all things engines (we all have to start somewhere), I have no recourse but to ask the good folks of this list-- Is this something I should acquire and decide later if I am going to use it or not? Is there a particular model year that is better suited for flight? The condition of the engine is unknown, but hey the price is just right! Your help is much appreciated! Ameet Savant ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:51:59 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: ANY BUILDERS NEAR PENSACOLA? From: "jimcarriere" [quote="Jerry Dotson"]I am wanting to start a Pietenpol soon. Any builders or owners near Pensacola, FL?? I would buy a project if near me and all spruce and MIL-SPEC plywood. I am going with Continental power. Probably an O-200. What about 3 piece wing versus 1 piece? I have room to build either way. Jerry Dotson[/quote] Jerry, I live in Navarre. I'm a Piet fan but not a Piet builder; I'm halfway done building a Kitfox (and 90% to go... life got in the way for the last couple years). I go to the EAA chapter in Crestview (108) and while there are no Piets in that chapter there are a handful of fabric covered airplanes and lots of smart and friendly people. I don't know much about the EAA chapter in Pensacola (485) other than they have lots of good people too. Something good to know in this area, if you order something from Aircraft Spruce in Atlanta then UPS Ground shipping usually shows up the next day. That's just dumb good luck. Good luck! -Jim -------- Jim in NW FL Kitfox Series 7 in progress Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=245071#245071 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:42:16 AM PST US From: "Chet's Mail" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Model A Ameet, The Ford engine is a good engine for the piet, the only thing I would do different is to install a counter balanced crank shaft. You can buy one or have yours balanced. Chet Hartley 920Y ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ameet Savant" Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 12:19 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Model A > > > Hello everyone, > > I was on vacation for a month or so and finally am caught up with the 600 > or so posts on the Pietenpol list. It is truly amazing how active this > group is. For flying low and slow we do seem to post like the fast and > furious! > > Anyway, like every builder, I am contemplating engine choices for my yet > to be started Pietenpol. I never thought I would consider the Ford Model A > mainly because I am not that much of a purist. However, when opportunity > knocks, who am I to ignore? > > I ran into the local Model A club member (while getting my car windshield > replaced- whole other story) and he has a 1928 Model A engine block that > he is willing to part for free. Given my gross ignorance about all things > engines (we all have to start somewhere), I have no recourse but to ask > the good folks of this list-- Is this something I should acquire and > decide later if I am going to use it or not? Is there a particular model > year that is better suited for flight? The condition of the engine is > unknown, but hey the price is just right! > > Your help is much appreciated! > > Ameet Savant > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:12:25 PM PST US From: Oscar Zuniga Subject: Pietenpol-List: three tenths flight time Doesn't sound like much=2C but it sure was a great flight. We had a heavy passing thunderstorm today so I was inside the hangar most of the afternoon but when it got done raining=2C there wasn't much wind and I knew I'd have to go fly. It is so nice to fly in an open cockpit in conditions like the se: cool=2C clean air=2C everything fresh from a rain=2C and the airplane f lies strong and smooth. The smells are richer and the colors of everything seem brighter and more true. So I didn't fly for long but I didn't have t o- it was enough. My three landings were all nearly perfect=2C a little st anding water splashing the tires=2C then we were home. This is what Mr. Pietenpol must have had in his mind when he first set out to design the Air Camper more than 80 years ago=2C and why he kept after it when the first few versions didn't quite match the picture he had in his m ind. Minimal preflight=2C minimal fuss and planning=2C and you're out flyi ng. No charts=2C no radios=2C no gadgets=2C nothing. I used my canvas fly ing helmet and goggles=2C didn't even bother with the other helmet with hea ring protectors because when I use the plain canvas=2C I can hear the wind in the wires when I pull off the power for landing. This is Piet flying. Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC San Antonio=2C TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:20:24 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: three tenths flight time From: "Pieti Lowell" Aman-Oscar. I have been flying Pietenpols for well over 40 some odd years You have said it all. I have never ever missed flying a Piet to the annual Brodhead fly-in. This is also my 80Th also . I have known the greats, most have signed my logs and you guys are carrying the torch, and with all the great comments I read, keep It up, see you at Brodhead. Pieti Lowell Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=245099#245099 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:35:22 PM PST US From: "ALAN LYSCARS" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Model A Ameet.. Possession is always 100% of a resource's value. Take it and use it later, trade or sell it later, or scrap it later. Just plain Yankee attitude! Al in New Hampshire ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ameet Savant" Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 1:19 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Model A > I ran into the local Model A club member (while getting my car windshield > replaced- whole other story) and he has a 1928 Model A engine block that > he is willing to part for free. ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:52:20 PM PST US From: jorge lizarraga Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Model A hello there I think we have the same dilema and allso you trate to have cor vier engines is aluminium blok and aircooler you foun those in yunk yard fo r less 100 each i trate to heve one or ford modelA too , but people flu in ford model powered piet and fly in other engine realised is beter A65 or co rvier I personaly fly in piet whit A65- my whit is 186 my frien is 178lbs so we have past the limit and fly exelent i hope these help you- cincere ly jorge lizarraga --- On Sat, 5/23/09, Ameet Savant wrote: From: Ameet Savant Subject: Pietenpol-List: Model A Hello everyone, I was on vacation for a month or so and finally am caught up with the 600 o r so posts on the Pietenpol list. It is truly amazing how active this group is. For flying low and slow we do seem to post like the fast and furious! Anyway, like every builder, I am contemplating engine choices for my yet to be started Pietenpol. I never thought I would consider the Ford Model A ma inly because I am not that much of a purist. However, when opportunity knoc ks, who am I to ignore? I ran into the local Model A club member (while getting my car windshield r eplaced- whole other story) and he has a 1928 Model A engine block that he is willing to part for free. Given my gross ignorance about all things engi nes (we all have to start somewhere), I have no recourse but to ask the goo d folks of this list-- Is this something I should acquire and decide later if I am going to use it or not? Is there a particular model year that is be tter suited for flight? The condition of the engine is unknown, but hey the price is just right! Your help is much appreciated! Ameet Savant - - - le, List Admin. =0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 10:03:09 PM PST US From: jorge lizarraga Subject: Pietenpol-List: california hello to florida Im build a piet here and is my fuselaje almost done and tr ate to build 3 pises wing like old timer is best because you can disamble f or transport to another location, and is the 0-200 engine is tomouch powere d and stres for the fuselaje is disagned for no more that 120mph. so more p ower?? well you welcome to piet builders you found these proyect enyoable a nd funn to have .seyou jorge --- On Sat, 5/23/09, jimcarriere wrote: From: jimcarriere Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: ANY BUILDERS NEAR PENSACOLA? [quote="Jerry Dotson"]I am wanting to start a Pietenpol soon. Any builder s or owners near Pensacola, FL?? I would buy a project if near me and all s pruce and MIL-SPEC plywood. I am going with Continental power. Probably an O-200. What about 3 piece wing versus 1 piece? I have room to build either way. Jerry Dotson[/quote] Jerry, I live in Navarre.- I'm a Piet fan but not a Piet builder; I'm hal fway done building a Kitfox (and 90% to go... life got in the way for the l ast couple years).- I go to the EAA chapter in Crestview (108) and while there are no Piets in that chapter there are a handful of fabric covered ai rplanes and lots of smart and friendly people.- I don't know much about t he EAA chapter in Pensacola (485) other than they have lots of good people too. Something good to know in this area, if you order something from Aircraft S pruce in Atlanta then UPS Ground shipping usually shows up the next day.- That's just dumb good luck. Good luck! -Jim -------- Jim in NW FL Kitfox Series 7 in progress Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=245071#245071 le, List Admin. =0A=0A=0A ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.