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1. 05:07 AM - Brodhead dates (Gene Rambo)
2. 05:23 AM - Re: Brodhead dates (Jack Phillips)
3. 05:23 AM - wire wheel weights (Douwe Blumberg)
4. 06:08 AM - Re: wire wheel weights (brian.e.jardine@l-3com.com)
5. 08:27 AM - Re: Brodhead dates (Roman Bukolt)
6. 09:23 AM - Re: Looking for Parts (Bill Church)
7. 09:46 AM - Re: Looking for Parts (Jack Phillips)
8. 10:50 AM - Slightly off topic - Pictures from Chino (chase143)
9. 10:56 AM - Re: Looking for Parts (K5YAC)
10. 11:21 AM - Re: Slightly off topic - Pictures from Chino (K5YAC)
11. 01:51 PM - Brodhead (Will42)
12. 02:11 PM - Re: Brodhead (John Hofmann)
13. 02:19 PM - Re: Re: Cast motorcycle wheels (walt)
14. 02:49 PM - Fw: Re: Cast motorcycle wheels-pics (walt)
15. 03:11 PM - Re: Brodhead (Jack Phillips)
16. 04:07 PM - Re: Brodhead dates (Ryan Mueller)
17. 05:03 PM - Re: Brodhead (amsafetyc@aol.com)
18. 05:42 PM - Re: Re: KFLV (Chet's Mail)
19. 06:00 PM - Re: Looking for Parts (TriScout)
20. 06:32 PM - Re: Looking for Parts (TriScout)
21. 08:37 PM - Anyone building near Fresno/Clovis CA? (Mark Roberts)
22. 09:09 PM - Re: Cast motorcycle wheels (Clif Dawson)
23. 09:10 PM - Re: Anyone building near Fresno/Clovis CA? (Gary Boothe)
24. 09:41 PM - Re: Anyone building near Fresno/Clovis CA? (Mark Roberts)
25. 10:37 PM - Re: Anyone building near Fresno/Clovis CA? (Clif Dawson)
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Can someone give me the exact dates for Brodhead this year, I need it
quickly to arrange for the days off!
Thanks,
Gene
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Hi Gene,
Brodhead is Friday, July 24 - Sunday, July 26.
Jack Phillips
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gene Rambo
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 7:56 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead dates
Can someone give me the exact dates for Brodhead this year, I need it
quickly to arrange for the days off!
Thanks,
Gene
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| Subject: | wire wheel weights |
Over the years, I've talked to everybody I could who actually had wire
wheels, and weighed a bunch myself. There are many variables such as alloy
vs steel rims, number of plys in the tire, brakes, no brakes etc, etc. The
lightest wheels, without brakes I've weighed or heard about was 18lbs for
one wheel, tire, tube with bushings installed. 24 lbs is about the heaviest
I've heard of, especially if this doesn't include brakes.
Douwe
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| Subject: | wire wheel weights |
What is the average weight of wheels and tires for "Cub style" gear?
Brian
SLC, UT
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Douwe
Blumberg
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 6:25 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: wire wheel weights
<douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
Over the years, I've talked to everybody I could who actually had wire
wheels, and weighed a bunch myself. There are many variables such as
alloy
vs steel rims, number of plys in the tire, brakes, no brakes etc, etc.
The
lightest wheels, without brakes I've weighed or heard about was 18lbs
for
one wheel, tire, tube with bushings installed. 24 lbs is about the
heaviest
I've heard of, especially if this doesn't include brakes.
Douwe
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| Subject: | Re: Brodhead dates |
Correction!
I believe, this year it is Thursday through Saturday because of the
early departure to EAA on Sunday.
R. Bukolt NX20795
On May 28, 2009, at 7:22 AM, Jack Phillips wrote:
> Hi Gene,
>
> Brodhead is Friday, July 24 ' Sunday, July 26.
>
> Jack Phillips
>
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> ] On Behalf Of Gene Rambo
> Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 7:56 AM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead dates
>
> Can someone give me the exact dates for Brodhead this year, I need
> it quickly to arrange for the days off!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gene
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
> http://forums.matronics.com
> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>
>
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| Subject: | Looking for Parts |
Mark,
Most builders today use aircraft cable rather than the hard wire called
for in the plans. If you choose to use hard wire, you'll probably need
to make quite a few practice fittings to get the hang of working with
solid wire. Also, be very careful not to nick or damage the wire, as
this could lead to failure of the wire.
I'm not sure where you're getting your info regarding wire gages.
You say 1/16" (.062") cable is TWICE the diameter of 14GA or 13GA wire?
I think if you check again, you'll see that isn't the case.
Wire gages can be confusing because there are several different systems.
For that reason, it is becoming common practice today to refer to the
actual diameter in decimal inches or millimeters. Back in 1929, when the
plans were drawn up, people used gages to denote wire thicknesses, but
rarely would specify which system of wire gages they were referring to.
Probably the most commonly used wire gage system today is the American
Wire Gage (AWG) - but that is for copper wire, and is based on
electrical resistivity. Do not use AWG for steel wires. Typically steel
wires available today would be either US Steel Wire Gage or British
Standard Wire Gage. For either of these, 13GA is approximately 0.092"
and 14GA is approximately 0.080" diameter. As you can see, these are
both considerably BIGGER than 1/16".
Here is a handy link to some old documents regarding soild wires in
aircraft use.
http://www.flitzerbiplane.com/PianoWire.shtml
And, from the same website, here's a step-by-step run-through of one
builder's method of fabricating wire ends, using music wire and cable
thimbles:
http://www.flitzerbiplane.com/DragWires.shtml
Bill C.
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| Subject: | Looking for Parts |
Mark, Bill is correct when he says most people use stranded aircraft cable.
For the drag/anti-drag wires in the wing, I used 1 x 19 stainless cable,
with standard AN turnbuckles. I wrapped the cable around thimbles and used
Nicopress fittings to secure the cable. Not a fun job.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Raleigh, NC
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Church
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 12:23 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Looking for Parts
Mark,
Most builders today use aircraft cable rather than the hard wire called
for in the plans. If you choose to use hard wire, you'll probably need
to make quite a few practice fittings to get the hang of working with
solid wire. Also, be very careful not to nick or damage the wire, as
this could lead to failure of the wire.
I'm not sure where you're getting your info regarding wire gages.
You say 1/16" (.062") cable is TWICE the diameter of 14GA or 13GA wire?
I think if you check again, you'll see that isn't the case.
Wire gages can be confusing because there are several different systems.
For that reason, it is becoming common practice today to refer to the
actual diameter in decimal inches or millimeters. Back in 1929, when the
plans were drawn up, people used gages to denote wire thicknesses, but
rarely would specify which system of wire gages they were referring to.
Probably the most commonly used wire gage system today is the American
Wire Gage (AWG) - but that is for copper wire, and is based on
electrical resistivity. Do not use AWG for steel wires. Typically steel
wires available today would be either US Steel Wire Gage or British
Standard Wire Gage. For either of these, 13GA is approximately 0.092"
and 14GA is approximately 0.080" diameter. As you can see, these are
both considerably BIGGER than 1/16".
Here is a handy link to some old documents regarding soild wires in
aircraft use.
http://www.flitzerbiplane.com/PianoWire.shtml
And, from the same website, here's a step-by-step run-through of one
builder's method of fabricating wire ends, using music wire and cable
thimbles:
http://www.flitzerbiplane.com/DragWires.shtml
Bill C.
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| Subject: | Slightly off topic - Pictures from Chino |
A friend sent me this link to some incredible war-bird pictures. Thought I would
share them. Enjoy.
http://home.comcast.net/~bzee1b/Chino/Chino.html
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=245739#245739
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| Subject: | Re: Looking for Parts |
Great stuff guys. I feel much more confident I'll be ordering the right stuff with
your input.
Bill, you are exactly right, I was comparing to AWG. Apples to oranges as they
say. I was actually looking at the more rigid 19x1 for the drag/anti drag application,
as it states in the literature that it is good for that purpose.
Thanks again guys!
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Mark
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| Subject: | Re: Slightly off topic - Pictures from Chino |
Great pics. Thanks for sharing.
As a veteran of the 82nd Airborne Division, I especially likes the reenactment
photos.
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Mark
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Maybe a dumb question but, exactly where is Brodhead? Are there tent camping facilities
for drive ins? Thanks.........
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=245757#245757
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Here is a map, sort of. Due west of Janesville, WI.
John Hofmann
Vice-President, Information Technology
The Rees Group, Inc.
2810 Crossroads Drive, Ste 3800
Madison, WI 53718
Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
Fax: 608.443.2474
Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
On May 28, 2009, at 3:49 PM, Will42 wrote:
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> Maybe a dumb question but, exactly where is Brodhead? Are there tent
> camping facilities for drive ins? Thanks.........
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=245757#245757
>
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| Subject: | Re: Cast motorcycle wheels |
My wire wheels with tire and tube, and brake drum, was 8 or 9# each.
walt evans
NX140DL
----- Original Message -----
From: "Clif Dawson" <CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca>
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 2:41 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Cast motorcycle wheels
>
> How much for wire ones?
>
> Clif
>
>
>>
>> Am I to understand that to mean 48 pounds for just the wheels and tires?
>> I have no idea if that is reasonable or not... just sounds like a lot to
>> me. Kind of surprising I guess.
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>> --------
>> Mark
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>> Read this topic online here:
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> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> 18:21:00
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| Subject: | Re: Cast motorcycle wheels-pics |
Bought the rims,
Harley Davidson spokes, I have part number if anyone needs it.
Made the hubs on my Harbor Freight mini-lathe.
JC Whitney tires and tubes
walt evans
NX140DL
----- Original Message -----
From: "walt" <waltdak@verizon.net>
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 4:04 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Cast motorcycle wheels
> My wire wheels with tire and tube, and brake drum, was 8 or 9# each.
> walt evans
> NX140DL
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Clif Dawson" <CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca>
> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 2:41 AM
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Cast motorcycle wheels
>
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>> How much for wire ones?
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>> Clif
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>>> Am I to understand that to mean 48 pounds for just the wheels and tires?
>>> I have no idea if that is reasonable or not... just sounds like a lot to
>>> me. Kind of surprising I guess.
>>>
>>> --------
>>> Mark
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>>> Read this topic online here:
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>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=245663#245663
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Brodhead is just north of the Illinois state line, south of Madison. Tent
camping is allowed and there are limited shower facilities (usually cold).
They charge you $10 to camp there. There is a pork chop dinner on Saturday
night - buy the tickets early or they will run out. It's the best two or
three days of the entire year.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Raleigh, NC
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Will42
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 4:50 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead
Maybe a dumb question but, exactly where is Brodhead? Are there tent camping
facilities for drive ins? Thanks.........
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=245757#245757
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| Subject: | Re: Brodhead dates |
You are correct:
http://www.pietenpols.org/id5.html
Ryan
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Roman Bukolt <conceptmodels@tds.net>wrote
:
> Correction! I believe, this year it is Thursday through Saturday because
> of the early departure to EAA on Sunday.
> R. Bukolt NX20795
> On May 28, 2009, at 7:22 AM, Jack Phillips wrote:
>
> Hi Gene,
>
> Brodhead is Friday, July 24 ' Sunday, July 26.
>
> Jack Phillips
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Gene Rambo
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 28, 2009 7:56 AM
> *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Pietenpol-List: Brodhead dates
>
> Can someone give me the exact dates for Brodhead this year, I need it
> quickly to arrange for the days off!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gene
>
>
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And definitely an event worth top billing
------Original Message------
From: Jack Phillips
Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
ReplyTo: Pietenpol builders Board
Sent: May 28, 2009 6:04 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead
Brodhead is just north of the Illinois state line, south of Madison. Tent
camping is allowed and there are limited shower facilities (usually cold).
They charge you $10 to camp there. There is a pork chop dinner on Saturday
night - buy the tickets early or they will run out. It's the best two or
three days of the entire year.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Raleigh, NC
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Will42
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 4:50 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead
Maybe a dumb question but, exactly where is Brodhead? Are there tent camping
facilities for drive ins? Thanks.........
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=245757#245757
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Mark,
Sorry we are transplants from Ohio 21 years now.
Chet
----- Original Message -----
From: "K5YAC" <hangar10@cox.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 8:03 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: KFLV
>
> Chet Hartley at KJEF eh? Do you have any family in St. Martins? Just
> curious... I grew up in that neck of the woods (JCHS class of 90) and had
> a friend named Roger Hartley.
>
> Ok, back to KFLV discussion...
>
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> Mark
>
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> Read this topic online here:
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| Subject: | Re: Looking for Parts |
I found alot of good tips on making those little parts from this site from Germany. I may refer to this site when I come to a point where I need an answer. www.fokker-team-schorndorf.de
Larry
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| Subject: | Re: Looking for Parts |
Probably should have posted this forum w/ same guy making turnbuckles. I believe he'll sell them, but not sure on the price. http://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/replica-aircraft/32129-fts-projects-13.html
Lar
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| Subject: | Anyone building near Fresno/Clovis CA? |
Finally, after many differing, often waffling, years of thought and
consternation, I have firmly decided that the first choice to build a Piet
was the right one after all. I have avoided the obvious draw I have
emotionally to the Piet by various =91conflicting desires=92: wanting an
enclosed cockpit (why? I dunno=85 I live in Fresno CA where summer temps ar
e
often in the high 90=92s-100=92s and a plexiglass cockpit needs much coolin
g),
side by side seating (but I like to look out both sides of the fuse at the
scenery, otherwise, why not drive?), and a metal skin to last longer (but I
plan to hanger anything I build for the long haul=85).
So, why was it I didn=92t want to build a Piet? I want to fly slow, build
something wooden not sheet metal, something I can build a bit at a time as
I
have money, and has been a proven design lasting the test of time.
Round shoulders (shrug) and flat forehead (slap), why didn=92t I want to bu
ild
a Piet?
So, I am fully in, and looking for others in the central valley of
California that might be building Piets. I=92m 6=924, 250 lbs (but hey, I
=92m
dieting) and am curious about the size of the width of the plane at 24=94
=85
Cramped?
Thanks!
Mark
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| Subject: | Re: Cast motorcycle wheels |
It's tubeless. I checked again and it's 12#. It's a 100/90 X 19 4ply.
This came with the wheel and will be replaced before flight. The
other wheel had no tire and I want both the same.
Clif
12# for the rubber tire and tube?
walt evans
NX140DL
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| Subject: | Anyone building near Fresno/Clovis CA? |
Mark,
There is one in Tulare (Mike Groah, almost on its gear), one in Sacramento
(Chris Tracy, www.westcoastpiet.com <http://www.westcoastpiet.com/> ), one
in Santa Rosa (Jim Boyer, almost on its gear), and mine, near Auburn.
Obviously, Mike is closest and monitors this list, but you are welcome to
take a drive up North and sit in mine.
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(13 ribs down.)
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Roberts
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 8:36 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Anyone building near Fresno/Clovis CA?
Finally, after many differing, often waffling, years of thought and
consternation, I have firmly decided that the first choice to build a Piet
was the right one after all. I have avoided the obvious draw I have
emotionally to the Piet by various 'conflicting desires': wanting an
enclosed cockpit (why? I dunno. I live in Fresno CA where summer temps are
often in the high 90's-100's and a plexiglass cockpit needs much cooling),
side by side seating (but I like to look out both sides of the fuse at the
scenery, otherwise, why not drive?), and a metal skin to last longer (but I
plan to hanger anything I build for the long haul.).
So, why was it I didn't want to build a Piet? I want to fly slow, build
something wooden not sheet metal, something I can build a bit at a time as I
have money, and has been a proven design lasting the test of time.
Round shoulders (shrug) and flat forehead (slap), why didn't I want to build
a Piet?
So, I am fully in, and looking for others in the central valley of
California that might be building Piets. I'm 6'4, 250 lbs (but hey, I'm
dieting) and am curious about the size of the width of the plane at 24".
Cramped?
Thanks!
Mark
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| Subject: | Re: Anyone building near Fresno/Clovis CA? |
Thanks Gary! I might take you up on that sometime. We try to get up to Reno
or Tahoe during the summer months, but this year might be too full already.
Graduating Seniors (twin daughters) this year and bunches of family stuff,
but I'd like to sit in a Piet to test my size verses the 24" width. Andrew
Piet dropped me a note yesterday saying that the width could be made wider
with no problem, and that (and my leg room) are the biggest concerns. I pla
n
to make the longest fuse design, and to use a Corvair engine. Will
eventually look for a core and Wynne's book on building one, but I gotta ge
t
the plans first. I am selling my Corbin Jr Ace, Corbin Baby Ace, and Pober
Jr. Ace plans, as well as my Dragonfly II plans (once thought faster glass
was the ticket...). In fact, I need to post them on Barnstormers.com
tonight...
Thank you for the heads up on the builds. I am in Tulare frequently with my
job, so I might see if I can connect with Mike. I hope to be knee deep in
wood this summer... :o)
Mark
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 9:10 PM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
> Mark,
>
>
> There is one in Tulare (Mike Groah, almost on its gear), one in Sacrament
o
> (Chris Tracy, www.westcoastpiet.com), one in Santa Rosa (Jim Boyer, almos
t
> on its gear), and mine, near Auburn. Obviously, Mike is closest and monit
ors
> this list, but you are welcome to take a drive up North and sit in mine.
>
>
> Gary Boothe
>
> Cool, Ca.
>
> Pietenpol
>
> WW Corvair Conversion
>
> Tail done, Fuselage on gear
>
> (13 ribs down=85)
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Mark Roberts
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 28, 2009 8:36 PM
> *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Pietenpol-List: Anyone building near Fresno/Clovis CA?
>
>
> Finally, after many differing, often waffling, years of thought and
> consternation, I have firmly decided that the first choice to build a Pie
t
> was the right one after all. I have avoided the obvious draw I have
> emotionally to the Piet by various =91conflicting desires=92: wanting an
> enclosed cockpit (why? I dunno=85 I live in Fresno CA where summer temps
are
> often in the high 90=92s-100=92s and a plexiglass cockpit needs much cool
ing),
> side by side seating (but I like to look out both sides of the fuse at th
e
> scenery, otherwise, why not drive?), and a metal skin to last longer (but
I
> plan to hanger anything I build for the long haul=85).
>
>
> So, why was it I didn=92t want to build a Piet? I want to fly slow, build
> something wooden not sheet metal, something I can build a bit at a time a
s I
> have money, and has been a proven design lasting the test of time.
>
>
> Round shoulders (shrug) and flat forehead (slap), why didn=92t I want to
> build a Piet?
>
>
> So, I am fully in, and looking for others in the central valley of
> California that might be building Piets. I=92m 6=924, 250 lbs (but hey, I
=92m
> dieting) and am curious about the size of the width of the plane at 24=94
=85
> Cramped?
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> Mark
>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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| Subject: | Re: Anyone building near Fresno/Clovis CA? |
Make a cockpit mockup from lumberyard stuff. You can
mess with it to your hearts content very cheaply. It will
tell you all you need to know. You may even have enough
scrap material already.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark Roberts
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 9:39 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Anyone building near Fresno/Clovis CA?
Thanks Gary! I might take you up on that sometime. We try to get up to
Reno or Tahoe during the summer months, but this year might be too full
already. Graduating Seniors (twin daughters) this year and bunches of
family stuff, but I'd like to sit in a Piet to test my size verses the
24" width. Andrew Piet dropped me a note yesterday saying that the width
could be made wider with no problem, and that (and my leg room) are the
biggest concerns. I plan to make the longest fuse design, and to use a
Corvair engine. Will eventually look for a core and Wynne's book on
building one, but I gotta get the plans first. I am selling my Corbin Jr
Ace, Corbin Baby Ace, and Pober Jr. Ace plans, as well as my Dragonfly
II plans (once thought faster glass was the ticket...). In fact, I need
to post them on Barnstormers.com tonight...
Thank you for the heads up on the builds. I am in Tulare frequently
with my job, so I might see if I can connect with Mike. I hope to be
knee deep in wood this summer... :o)
Mark
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 9:10 PM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net>
wrote:
Mark,
There is one in Tulare (Mike Groah, almost on its gear), one in
Sacramento (Chris Tracy, www.westcoastpiet.com), one in Santa Rosa (Jim
Boyer, almost on its gear), and mine, near Auburn. Obviously, Mike is
closest and monitors this list, but you are welcome to take a drive up
North and sit in mine.
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(13 ribs down=85)
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark
Roberts
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 8:36 PM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Anyone building near Fresno/Clovis CA?
Finally, after many differing, often waffling, years of thought and
consternation, I have firmly decided that the first choice to build a
Piet was the right one after all. I have avoided the obvious draw I have
emotionally to the Piet by various =91conflicting desires=92: wanting an
enclosed cockpit (why? I dunno=85 I live in Fresno CA where summer temps
are often in the high 90=92s-100=92s and a plexiglass cockpit needs much
cooling), side by side seating (but I like to look out both sides of the
fuse at the scenery, otherwise, why not drive?), and a metal skin to
last longer (but I plan to hanger anything I build for the long
haul=85).
So, why was it I didn=92t want to build a Piet? I want to fly slow,
build something wooden not sheet metal, something I can build a bit at a
time as I have money, and has been a proven design lasting the test of
time.
Round shoulders (shrug) and flat forehead (slap), why didn=92t I
want to build a Piet?
So, I am fully in, and looking for others in the central valley of
California that might be building Piets. I=92m 6=924, 250 lbs (but hey,
I=92m dieting) and am curious about the size of the width of the plane
at 24=94=85 Cramped?
Thanks!
Mark
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