---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 06/07/09: 15 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:12 AM - Has anyone ever used Maranti timber in their Pietenpol? (rameses32) 2. 04:43 AM - Re: Has anyone ever used Maranti timber in their Pietenpol? (helspersew@aol.com) 3. 05:48 AM - Re: Has anyone ever used Maranti timber in their Pietenpol? (rameses32) 4. 11:04 AM - Flight to Dixon? (Patrick Panzera) 5. 11:21 AM - Oldsmobile engine Piet (Will42) 6. 11:22 AM - Re: Pfeifer Sport plans (Darrel Jones) 7. 12:40 PM - Canvas seat sling (Will42) 8. 05:12 PM - Re: Flying an Idea (Jack Phillips) 9. 05:12 PM - Re: Flying an Idea (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]) 10. 05:22 PM - Re: Flying an Idea (Gary Boothe) 11. 06:55 PM - Re: Front fuselage covering (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]) 12. 08:12 PM - Re: Flying an Idea (Ryan Mueller) 13. 08:12 PM - Air Camper and Sky Scout specs? () 14. 08:27 PM - Re: First trip to Brodhead (Ryan Mueller) 15. 08:37 PM - Re: Air Camper and Sky Scout specs? (Ryan Mueller) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:12:08 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Has anyone ever used Maranti timber in their Pietenpol? From: "rameses32" Hey, ya don't know if ya don't ask. I was thinking about using layers of maranti and Oak to make my propeller. Charley Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=247177#247177 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:43:25 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Has anyone ever used Maranti timber in their Pietenpol? From: helspersew@aol.com Charley, I don't think you would have any problems with maranti and oak. I have no idea what maranti is, but even if it's a little soft I would suspect the oak would make up the strength. When I observed Jerry Thornhill carve his prop (for the EAA replica Bleriot) at Oshkosh '07 he told me you can use just about anything within reason. I used ash for mine. He used mahogony for the Bleriot, and Hickory for the Camel replica he built. Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL -----Original Message----- From: rameses32 Sent: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 5:11 am Subject: Pietenpol-List: Has anyone ever used Maranti timber in their Pietenpol? Hey, ya don't know if ya don't ask. I was thinking about using layers of maranti and Oak to make my propeller. Charley Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=247177#247177 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:48:26 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Has anyone ever used Maranti timber in their Pietenpol? From: "rameses32" Meranti is a semi hard wood from Malaysia , also called Lauan, or Malaysain Mohogony. Class 4 strength, what ever that means. The grain in usually interlocking and straight. Just wondering if it has ever been used in Aircraft construction. Every lumber yard here in Austrralia has this timber and the availability of clear, straight grained lumber is in abundance. I am confident in it's ability to be used in a propeller, but I am wondering if it has been used in any structral applications. Charley Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=247182#247182 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:04:22 AM PST US From: "Patrick Panzera" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Flight to Dixon? Hey gang, My airline reservations have been made to again this year include Brodhead before OSH. I REALLY enjoyed myself last year. http://www.contactmagazine.com/Images/Brodhead-2008-b.jpg Be sure and view the image at full size. As coincidence would have it, I've found a project that I'm very interested in reporting on in a future issue of CONTACT! Magazine and it's located in Dixon, about 60 miles directly south of the Brodhead Airport. The plan thus far is to spend all day Saturday at the Pietenpol gathering, and very early on Sunday, drive to Dixon, conduct the interview and get the photos, then drive to OSH and set up my booth in time to be ready for Monday's opening of AirVenture. So... I'm wondering if anyone who might be flying in, would be willing to ferry me both ways, from Brodhead to Dixon and back, early on Sunday morning, and save me about two hours of driving. I'm absolutely willing to pay expenses, give a receipt for the donation of your time and plane- CONTACT! Magazine is a 501c3 nonprofit corporation- and of course you'll get to see, in person, the 1/3 scale B-17 replica in question. I'm in the process of putting together a brief "What our members are building" article on this plane, for the next issue of EAA's EXPERIMENTER, but the article in CONTACT! will be rather exhaustive as our articles usually tend to be. Additionally, I'm planning to cover the Pietenpol event for both publications as well, CONTACT! and EXPERIMENTER, so I'm really looking forward to the event even if I can't score the ride I need. :) Thanks!!! Pat Editor@ContactMagazine.com ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:21:21 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Oldsmobile engine Piet From: "Will42" I seem to remember a Pietenpol with an aluminum Olds V6 engine; direct drive as I recall. Anybody else seen such? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=247212#247212 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 11:22:52 AM PST US From: Darrel Jones Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pfeifer Sport plans Tom Winter wrote: > > Been away for a while, and have obviously missed something. Pfeifer > Sport plans? What is the Pfeifer sport? Google doesn't know, so I > have to ask. > > Tom, The Pfeifer Sport is a steel tube variant of the Pietenpol. I had my plans scanned to .pdfs and offered them to the list for $5 to cover the cost of mailing. Reply with your mailing address if you would like a copy. Darrel Jones Sonoma, CA ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 12:40:31 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Canvas seat sling From: "Will42" In the mid 80's I built a Heath Super Parasol and fabricated a canvas seat sling. At the time, I got the material from AC Spruce but they don't have it listed now. It's the same canvas used in the J3 and Taylorcraft seat slings. This makes a very comfortable seat and super light too. Does anyone know of a source? Will Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=247217#247217 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:12:46 PM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Flying an Idea I'll take a couple, John. Seems like I've seen that picture somewhere before. Any chance of getting T-Shirts with pockets for us old folks that need a place to carryour reading glasses? Jack Phillips _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Hofmann Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 8:52 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Flying an Idea Fellow Pietephiles: As Brodhead, that other flyin in Wisconsin and the 80th Celebration fast approach, I have started to design my T-Shirts which the "Bratmen of Brodhead" will be sporting this year. I thought I would take a stab at another design or two for the masses. Let me know if there is any interest and I will put them up on CafePress and you can order as many as you want to wear. Also I can customize the photo in the middle pretty easily if you don't like Mike Cuy. I actually think he is okay considering he is one of my greatest friends. Let me know what you think or contact me off list at johnnyskyrocket@me.com -john- John Hofmann Vice-President, Information Technology The Rees Group, Inc. 2810 Crossroads Drive, Ste 3800 Madison, WI 53718 Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150 Fax: 608.443.2474 Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 05:12:46 PM PST US From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Flying an Idea That's a great logo for a t-shirt John Hofmann and in all fairness I must tell the group that the photo was taken by Jack Phillips from his beautiful Pietenpol Air Camper while we were in loose formation over western Ohio in 2005 enroute to Brathead. ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 05:22:32 PM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Flying an Idea ".Any chance of getting T-Shirts with pockets for us old folks that need a place to carry our reading glasses?..." Hear! Hear! Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion Tail done, Fuselage on gear (13 ribs down.) Do not archive _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack Phillips Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 5:05 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Flying an Idea I'll take a couple, John. Seems like I've seen that picture somewhere before. Any chance of getting T-Shirts with pockets for us old folks that need a place to carryour reading glasses? Jack Phillips _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Hofmann Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 8:52 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Flying an Idea Fellow Pietephiles: As Brodhead, that other flyin in Wisconsin and the 80th Celebration fast approach, I have started to design my T-Shirts which the "Bratmen of Brodhead" will be sporting this year. I thought I would take a stab at another design or two for the masses. Let me know if there is any interest and I will put them up on CafePress and you can order as many as you want to wear. Also I can customize the photo in the middle pretty easily if you don't like Mike Cuy. I actually think he is okay considering he is one of my greatest friends. Let me know what you think or contact me off list at johnnyskyrocket@me.com -john- John Hofmann Vice-President, Information Technology The Rees Group, Inc. 2810 Crossroads Drive, Ste 3800 Madison, WI 53718 Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150 Fax: 608.443.2474 Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 06:55:28 PM PST US From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Front fuselage covering Rick-- nice looking work ! I chose to cover my fuselage and then affix the stainless firewall (with several small phillips-head wood screws) Worked out well. Mike C. ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 08:12:13 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Flying an Idea From: Ryan Mueller We will definitely buy a couple. We've been gazing at that picture for at least a year as the desktop on my home computer. We were without it for a short time recently when I upgraded to a big honkin' widescreen LCD; stretching the image to the 16:9 aspect ratio make it look a bit off. Thankfully I remembered where I found the original (WestCoastPiet...thanks Chris!), and now I get to look at in super hi-res. I can almost make out Mike's grin. :) Thanks John. On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 7:51 PM, John Hofmann wrote: > Fellow Pietephiles: > As Brodhead, that other flyin in Wisconsin and the 80th Celebration fast > approach, I have started to design my T-Shirts which the "Bratmen of > Brodhead" will be sporting this year. I thought I would take a stab at > another design or two for the masses. Let me know if there is any interest > and I will put them up on CafePress and you can order as many as you want to > wear. Also I can customize the photo in the middle pretty easily if you > don't like Mike Cuy. I actually think he is okay considering he is one of my > greatest friends. Let me know what you think or contact me off list at > johnnyskyrocket@me.com > > -john- > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 08:12:42 PM PST US From: Subject: Pietenpol-List: Air Camper and Sky Scout specs? I am new to this list and about to begin building my first airplane. Right now I have a VW type 4 engine being converted for flywheel drive. It should put out between 60 and 70hp when complete. Two of the designs I have been looking at are the Air Camper and Sky Scout. One problem I have with the design is I am a bit "stout" and 6" tall so I am worried about fitting in the cockpit and airplane performance with 60-70hp and around 400lbs onboard. Anyone have any experience with widening the fuselage 6-10 inches and performance with that kind of horsepower and load? Thanks Rodney Hall Really like the T-shirt design for Brodhead. ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 08:27:11 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: First trip to Brodhead From: Ryan Mueller Mike, She most definitely is still supportive of my passion for aviation. She eve n appears to have acquired a bit of her own. She'll hear and call out overflying aircraft before I do, every so often. I'll blame that on hearing loss to mortars and IED's. Yeah, that's it. ;) We will be at Brodhead this year. I think our time-off starts on Wednesday, so I think we should make it up there by Thursday morning. We'll be attending through Saturday, and then Sunday we will be going up to Fitchburg, WI for the Corvair College at Falcon Machine, and then most likely make our way up to Oshkosh Sunday evening. We very much look forward to seeing you there (and everyone else as well)! Have a good night all, Ryan On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation] wrote: > Brian=97We had a good experience one year early on staying in Monroe at the > Americ-Inn or some such similar name. > > > You should look up Ryan and Jess Mueller. He found a lady who is very > supportive of his passion for aviation and she even > > seems to be that way AFTER they got married. Hopefully if you take th e > plunge your girlfriend will support your passion for > > aviation post marriage. Don=92t discount the value of a prenupJ > > > Mike C. > > > do not archive > > > PS=97I have no issues with my flying and being married at all. My wife w ill > encourage me to go to the airport or to go > > flying or to fly-in=92s. I=92m very blessed in that regard. > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 08:37:30 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Air Camper and Sky Scout specs? From: Ryan Mueller Rodney, Well, people have widened the fuse. Usually it's an inch or 2. 6 to 10 inches would be a bit excessive. You say you are 6 foot tall. That's not too bad to fit into a Piet. But about the "stout"....you question the performance with 400lbs on board. Are you referring to just yourself there, yourself and a pax, the total payload....? Ryan On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 9:50 PM, wrote: > > I am new to this list and about to begin building my first airplane. Right > now I have a VW type 4 engine being converted for flywheel drive. It should > put out between 60 and 70hp when complete. > > Two of the designs I have been looking at are the Air Camper and Sky Scout. > One problem I have with the design is I am a bit "stout" and 6" tall so I am > worried about fitting in the cockpit and airplane performance with 60-70hp > and around 400lbs onboard. Anyone have any experience with widening the > fuselage 6-10 inches and performance with that kind of horsepower and load? > > Thanks > Rodney Hall > > Really like the T-shirt design for Brodhead. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.