---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 06/17/09: 32 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:44 AM - Re: Doug Fir as a substitute (Owen Davies) 2. 03:32 AM - Re: cowling paint (Gene & Tammy) 3. 05:45 AM - cowling paint (Oscar Zuniga) 4. 06:15 AM - Re: Doug Fir as a substitute (Bill Church) 5. 08:19 AM - Re: Doug Fir as a substitute (Mark Roberts) 6. 10:20 AM - Re: cowling paint (Michael Perez) 7. 10:38 AM - Re: cowling paint (Jack Phillips) 8. 11:05 AM - Re: cowling paint (Michael Perez) 9. 11:05 AM - Re: cowling paint (Jeff Boatright) 10. 11:19 AM - Re: cowling paint (Bill Church) 11. 12:25 PM - Re: cowling paint (amsafetyc@aol.com) 12. 01:43 PM - layout notes-- "wingtip" thataway--> (Tim Willis) 13. 01:58 PM - Re: layout notes-- "wingtip" thataway--> (helspersew@aol.com) 14. 02:18 PM - Re: layout notes-- "wingtip" thataway--> (TOM STINEMETZE) 15. 02:18 PM - Re: cowling paint (Dale Johnson) 16. 02:30 PM - Re: Re: cowling paint (Jim) 17. 02:38 PM - Pietenpols on the big screen (Baldeagle) 18. 02:42 PM - On the way to Brodhead/Oshkosh fly-in (Baldeagle) 19. 03:13 PM - Writing inside of the airplane (shad bell) 20. 03:34 PM - Re: layout notes-- "wingtip" thataway--> (Michael Perez) 21. 03:34 PM - Re: cowling paint (Michael Perez) 22. 03:36 PM - Re: layout notes-- "wingtip" thataway--> (Michael Perez) 23. 03:38 PM - Re: Writing inside of the airplane (Michael Perez) 24. 05:07 PM - Heath "V" (Will42) 25. 05:43 PM - Re: Doug Fir as a substitute (Wayne Bressler) 26. 06:29 PM - making notes on your parts as you build your airplane (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]) 27. 07:50 PM - Re: layout notes-- "wingtip" thataway--> (Clif Dawson) 28. 08:13 PM - Re: Doug Fir as a substitute (Owen Davies) 29. 08:17 PM - Re: Pietenpols on the big screen (K5YAC) 30. 08:33 PM - A sad conversation (shad bell) 31. 09:22 PM - Re: Re: cowling paint (gcardinal) 32. 10:24 PM - Re: Corvair buy (Rob Stapleton) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:44:39 AM PST US From: Owen Davies Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Doug Fir as a substitute Wayne Bressler wrote: > That sounds like rumor to me... I would have a hard time believing > the Mini-Max was ever kitted in pine. > > Might want to do some digging before I believe that. > > I have a Mini-Max fin kit, and it is definitely not pine. It's a new > kit (2008). Dig away. My information is at least ten years old, from when TEAM still owned it (it may even have been ISON at that point) and one of our neighbors was the local dealer. If JDT has gone to spruce, or something else, it would not surprise me. Owen ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:32:09 AM PST US From: "Gene & Tammy" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: cowling paint Painted the inside white. Makes it very easy to peek inside and spot leaks. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douwe Blumberg" Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 9:02 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: cowling paint > > > Hello all, > > Did you guys paint the inside of your cowling or leave it bare? > > Douwe > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 17:55:00 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:45:00 AM PST US From: Oscar Zuniga Subject: Pietenpol-List: cowling paint The insides of all the cowlings on 41CC were left in natural aluminum. I sort of wish that the cockpit cowlings were at least primed inside because they are visible. However, Corky had the wonderful presence of mind to have everyone who helped him on the airplane sign their names inside the engine top cowling using a black marker. Since I've owned the airplane, I've had several others add their names inside the cowling... like Sal Hernandez, welder extraordinaire who did all of the landing gear and cabane strut repairs. I need to have engine guru Jeff Scott sign it, and tech counselor Norris Warner, and sheet metal maestro Ed Talamantez, and Charlie, and... and... so many more! The inside of that cowling will carry a story with it for a long time. Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:15:15 AM PST US Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Doug Fir as a substitute From: "Bill Church" Not sure where you got that info, Mark. I have read that over the years BHP used wood that was available to him, including Hemlock when Spruce wasn't available, but I do not recall reading that he built his last plane out of Douglas Fir (not that there's anything wrong with that). If you re-read Dan Helsper's post, he said that he closely inspected The Last Original, and that the fuselage longerons were Spruce (I believe his point was that the longerons were only 7/8" x 7/8" rather than 1" x 1" per plans). There was no mention of Douglas Fir. Bill C. -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Roberts Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 1:41 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Doug Fir as a substitute --> ... I am also encouraged to know BHP made the last one out of Doug fir. Helps to know he believed in it too, if not for nostalgia sake :o) Mark ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:19:31 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Doug Fir as a substitute From: Mark Roberts Opps! My bad. I misread the post. Jim said 7/8 x 7/8 spruce.... don't know how I got fir outta that!? Thanks for pointing that out before I continued spreading that one around! Mark On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 5:15 AM, Bill Church wrote: > > > Not sure where you got that info, Mark. > I have read that over the years BHP used wood that was available to him, > including Hemlock when Spruce wasn't available, but I do not recall > reading that he built his last plane out of Douglas Fir (not that > there's anything wrong with that). > If you re-read Dan Helsper's post, he said that he closely inspected The > Last Original, and that the fuselage longerons were Spruce (I believe > his point was that the longerons were only 7/8" x 7/8" rather than 1" x > 1" per plans). There was no mention of Douglas Fir. > > Bill C. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark > Roberts > Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 1:41 AM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Doug Fir as a substitute > > --> > > ... I am also encouraged to know BHP made the last one out of Doug fir. > Helps to know he believed in it too, if not for nostalgia sake :o) > > Mark > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:20:15 AM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: cowling paint I have been doing that sort of this as I build as well. Mostly dates for wh en I finished-this and that and some of my various math calculations, men tal reminders, (WING TIP[and an arrow pointing the direction of the tip]) e tc. -Most of which will be covered up, but it will be like a time capsule when I have to go back and recover it someday or if by chance someone else ends up with the plane. ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:38:20 AM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: cowling paint May also help in future NTSB investigations. _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Perez Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 1:16 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: cowling paint I have been doing that sort of this as I build as well. Mostly dates for when I finished this and that and some of my various math calculations, mental reminders, (WING TIP[and an arrow pointing the direction of the tip]) etc. Most of which will be covered up, but it will be like a time capsule when I have to go back and recover it someday or if by chance someone else ends up with the plane. ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 11:05:06 AM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: cowling paint Good point! I should add my next of kin, phone numbers... --- On Wed, 6/17/09, Jack Phillips wrote: From: Jack Phillips Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: cowling paint May also help in future NTSB investigations =C2- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: owner-pietenpol-li st-server@matronics.com ] On Behalf Of Michael Perez Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 1:16 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: cowling paint =C2- I have been doing that sort of this as I build as well. Mostly dates for wh en I finished=C2-this and that and some of my various math calculations, mental reminders, (WING TIP[and an arrow pointing the direction of the tip] ) etc. =C2-Most of which will be covered up, but it will be like a time c apsule when I have to go back and recover it someday or if by chance someon e else ends up with the plane. =C2- ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 11:05:07 AM PST US From: Jeff Boatright Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: cowling paint Oddball: Why don't you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don't you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don't you say something righteous and hopeful for a change? Moriarty: Crap! >May also help in future NTSB investigations=8A > > >From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] >On Behalf Of Michael Perez >Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 1:16 PM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: cowling paint > > >I have been doing that sort of this as I build >as well. Mostly dates for when I finished this >and that and some of my various math >calculations, mental reminders, (WING TIP[and an >arrow pointing the direction of the tip]) etc. > Most of which will be covered up, but it will >be like a time capsule when I have to go back >and recover it someday or if by chance someone >else ends up with the plane. > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 11:19:57 AM PST US Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: cowling paint From: "Bill Church" You're actually writing your math calculations on the parts? I guess you'll never misplace them. Of course, you won't be able to refer to them either, without removing the fabric. Your plane will definitely be one of a kind. BC (the "wing tip" comment was a joke, though ... right?) ________________________________ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Perez Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 1:16 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: cowling paint I have been doing that sort of this as I build as well. Mostly dates for when I finished this and that and some of my various math calculations, mental reminders, (WING TIP[and an arrow pointing the direction of the tip]) etc. Most of which will be covered up, but it will be like a time capsule when I have to go back and recover it someday or if by chance someone else ends up with the plane. ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 12:25:29 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: cowling paint From: amsafetyc@aol.com IlRoYXQncyB0aGUgY2F0Y2giDQpTZW50IGZyb20gbXkgVmVyaXpvbiBXaXJlbGVzcyBCbGFja0Jl cnJ5DQoNCi0tLS0tT3JpZ2luYWwgTWVzc2FnZS0tLS0tDQpGcm9tOiBKZWZmIEJvYXRyaWdodCA8 amJvYXRyaUBlbW9yeS5lZHU+DQoNCkRhdGU6IFdlZCwgMTcgSnVuIDIwMDkgMTQ6MDA6MTEgDQpU bzogPHBpZXRlbnBvbC1saXN0QG1hdHJvbmljcy5jb20+DQpTdWJqZWN0OiBSRTogUGlldGVucG9s LUxpc3Q6IGNvd2xpbmcgcGFpbnQNCg0KDQpPZGRiYWxsOiBXaHkgZG9uJ3QgeW91IGtub2NrIGl0 IG9mZiB3aXRoIHRoZW0gDQpuZWdhdGl2ZSB3YXZlcz8gV2h5IGRvbid0IHlvdSBkaWcgaG93IGJl YXV0aWZ1bCANCml0IGlzIG91dCBoZXJlPyBXaHkgZG9uJ3QgeW91IHNheSBzb21ldGhpbmcgDQpy aWdodGVvdXMgYW5kIGhvcGVmdWwgZm9yIGEgY2hhbmdlPw0KTW9yaWFydHk6IENyYXAhDQoNCj5N YXkgYWxzbyBoZWxwIGluIGZ1dHVyZSBOVFNCIGludmVzdGlnYXRpb25zig0KPg0KPg0KPkZyb206 IG93bmVyLXBpZXRlbnBvbC1saXN0LXNlcnZlckBtYXRyb25pY3MuY29tIA0KPlttYWlsdG86b3du ZXItcGlldGVucG9sLWxpc3Qtc2VydmVyQG1hdHJvbmljcy5jb21dIA0KPk9uIEJlaGFsZiBPZiBN aWNoYWVsIFBlcmV6DQo+U2VudDogV2VkbmVzZGF5LCBKdW5lIDE3LCAyMDA5IDE6MTYgUE0NCj5U bzogcGlldGVucG9sLWxpc3RAbWF0cm9uaWNzLmNvbQ0KPlN1YmplY3Q6IFJlOiBQaWV0ZW5wb2wt TGlzdDogY293bGluZyBwYWludA0KPg0KPg0KPkkgaGF2ZSBiZWVuIGRvaW5nIHRoYXQgc29ydCBv ZiB0aGlzIGFzIEkgYnVpbGQgDQo+YXMgd2VsbC4gTW9zdGx5IGRhdGVzIGZvciB3aGVuIEkgZmlu aXNoZWQgdGhpcyANCj5hbmQgdGhhdCBhbmQgc29tZSBvZiBteSB2YXJpb3VzIG1hdGggDQo+Y2Fs Y3VsYXRpb25zLCBtZW50YWwgcmVtaW5kZXJzLCAoV0lORyBUSVBbYW5kIGFuIA0KPmFycm93IHBv aW50aW5nIHRoZSBkaXJlY3Rpb24gb2YgdGhlIHRpcF0pIGV0Yy4gDQo+IE1vc3Qgb2Ygd2hpY2gg d2lsbCBiZSBjb3ZlcmVkIHVwLCBidXQgaXQgd2lsbCANCj5iZSBsaWtlIGEgdGltZSBjYXBzdWxl IHdoZW4gSSBoYXZlIHRvIGdvIGJhY2sgDQo+YW5kIHJlY292ZXIgaXQgc29tZWRheSBvciBpZiBi eSBjaGFuY2Ugc29tZW9uZSANCj5lbHNlIGVuZHMgdXAgd2l0aCB0aGUgcGxhbmUuDQo+DQo+DQoN Cg= ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 01:43:13 PM PST US From: Tim Willis Subject: Pietenpol-List: layout notes-- "wingtip" thataway--> No, recall that some of these are layout notes. My spars are marked accordingly (e.g.; one note says "right rear butt end"), and I assure you that note refers neither to Rush Limbaugh, my politics nor physiology. "Wingtip -->" makes the same sense. Tim in central TX ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 01:58:35 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: layout notes-- "wingtip" thataway--> From: helspersew@aol.com I myself put one of those arrows on the pilot's seat, just so I remember which way I will be going. Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL -----Original Message----- From: Tim Willis Sent: Wed, Jun 17, 2009 3:42 pm Subject: Pietenpol-List: layout notes-- "wingtip" thataway--> No, recall that some of these are layout notes. My spars are marked accordingly (e.g.; one note says "right rear butt end"), and I assure you that note refers neither to Rush Limbaugh, my politics nor physiology. "Wingtip -->" makes the same sense. Tim in central TX ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 02:18:08 PM PST US From: "TOM STINEMETZE" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: layout notes-- "wingtip" thataway--> >>> 6/17/2009 3:56 PM >>> >>I myself put one of those arrows on the pilot's seat, just so I remember which way I will be going. >>Dan Helsper >>Poplar Grove, IL As I recall, one of the F4U Corsairs on the old Black Sheep Squadron television show had an arrow pointing forward on one wing. 'spect this was to remind him which way to point the thing although with that many horses up front there probably wasn't much choice. Won't have that problem on the Corvair powered Piet. By the way, thanks for all the good advice a couple of weeks ago. I was able to meet up with the Painters at Mojave airport and get some in-hanger stick time in Jo-Ann's Air Camper plus a bunch of stories that I will recall for a long time. Turns out that Mr. Painter gave the private pilot check ride to Christopher Reeves among many others. Now how would you like to be the one who could say "I taught Superman how to fly?" Attached photo is of Mr. Painter, my son Matthew, and myself discovering just how hard it is to fit into the main "pit." Tom Stinemetze McPherson, KS. ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 02:18:29 PM PST US From: "Dale Johnson" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: cowling paint Douwe I engine turned the inside & outside. Dale > [Original Message] > From: Douwe Blumberg > To: pietenpolgroup > Date: 6/16/2009 9:12:09 PM > Subject: Pietenpol-List: cowling paint > > > Hello all, > > Did you guys paint the inside of your cowling or leave it bare? > > Douwe > > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 02:30:51 PM PST US From: Jim Subject: Re: RE: Pietenpol-List: cowling paint Jim Boyer Santa Rosa, CA Hi Dale, How long did it take to engine turn the cowling? How big a circle and what did you use for the abrasive to do it? Thanks, Jim B. On Jun 17, 2009, ddjohn@earthlink.net wrote: Douwe I engine turned the inside & outside. Dale > [Original Message] > From: Douwe Blumberg > To: pietenpolgroup > Date: 6/16/2009 9:12:09 PM > Subject: Pietenpol-List: cowling paint > > > Hello all, > > Did you guys paint the inside of your cowling or leave it bare? > > Douwe > > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 02:38:14 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpols on the big screen From: "Baldeagle" http://www.barnstormingmovie.com/ Watch the trailer Showing at Oshkosh on Sunday night, click on "screenings" - Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=248787#248787 ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 02:42:49 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: On the way to Brodhead/Oshkosh fly-in From: "Baldeagle" Larry Williams will be there........ (right Larry?) - Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=248788#248788 ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 03:13:47 PM PST US From: shad bell Subject: Pietenpol-List: Writing inside of the airplane I am glad I am not the only one who does that.- I have written notes as t o who built what part, where it was built, date, etc on various parts (of m y Jungster 1, I am building).- Imagine how cool that would if the airplan e is around in 50-60+ years, and a great grandson or who ever sees it while rebuilding it see's that note, it kind of adds a little history to the pla ne.- An unorthodox personal diary. - Shad=0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 03:34:19 PM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: layout notes-- "wingtip" thataway--> Thanks Tim on the "WING TIP----> "-- help. Didn't take the time to try and figure out how to do that on the keyboard.- --- On Wed, 6/17/09, Tim Willis wrote: From: Tim Willis Subject: Pietenpol-List: layout notes-- "wingtip" thataway--> et> No, recall that some of these are layout notes.- My spars are marked acco rdingly (e.g.; one note says "right rear butt end"), and I assure you that note refers neither to Rush Limbaugh, my politics nor physiology.- "Wingt ip -->" makes the same sense. Tim in central TX le, List Admin. ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 03:34:19 PM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: cowling paint Yes Bill, the wing tip was for laughs.... My "important" calculations are o n paper in a folder. The more simple- .750 - .375 stuff I just write down on the part...so to speak.- I wonder if anyone has wrapped up a tool or some other object in their plane while covering? --- On Wed, 6/17/09, Bill Church wrote: From: Bill Church Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: cowling paint You're actually writing your math calculations on the parts? I guess you'll never-misplace them. Of course, you won't be able to refer to them either, without removing the fabric. - Your plane will definitely be one of a kind. - BC - (the "wing tip" comment was a joke, though ...-right?) - From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-lis t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Perez Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 1:16 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: cowling paint I have been doing that sort of this as I build as well. Mostly dates for wh en I finished-this and that and some of my various math calculations, men tal reminders, (WING TIP[and an arrow pointing the direction of the tip]) e tc. -Most of which will be covered up, but it will be like a time capsule when I have to go back and recover it someday or if by chance someone else ends up with the plane. ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 03:36:09 PM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: layout notes-- "wingtip" thataway--> There is also-the white arrow on the vertical stabilizer/rudder. --- On Wed, 6/17/09, TOM STINEMETZE wrote: From: TOM STINEMETZE Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: layout notes-- "wingtip" thataway--> >>> 6/17/2009 3:56 PM >>> >>I myself put one of those arrows on the pilot's seat, just so I remember which way I will be going. >>Dan Helsper >>Poplar Grove, IL - As I recall, one of the F4U Corsairs on the old Black Sheep Squadron televi sion show had an arrow pointing forward on one wing.- 'spect this was to remind him which way to point the thing although with that many horses up f ront there probably wasn't much choice.- Won't have that problem on the C orvair powered Piet. - By the way, thanks for all the good advice a couple of weeks ago.- I was able to meet up with the Painters at Mojave airport and get some in-hanger stick time in Jo-Ann's Air Camper plus a bunch of stories that I will recal l for a long time.- Turns out that Mr. Painter gave the private pilot che ck ride to Christopher Reeves among many others.- Now how would you like to be the one who could say "I taught Superman how to fly?"- Attached pho to is of Mr. Painter, my son Matthew, and myself discovering just how hard it is to fit into the main "pit." - Tom Stinemetze McPherson, KS. -- ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 03:38:00 PM PST US From: Michael Perez Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Writing inside of the airplane Copy that Shad, my point exactly. (and it would help if the NTSB was needed ....8^) --- On Wed, 6/17/09, shad bell wrote: From: shad bell Subject: Pietenpol-List: Writing inside of the airplane I am glad I am not the only one who does that.- I have written notes as t o who built what part, where it was built, date, etc on various parts (of m y Jungster 1, I am building).- Imagine how cool that would if the airplan e is around in 50-60+ years, and a great grandson or who ever sees it while rebuilding it see's that note, it kind of adds a little history to the pla ne.- An unorthodox personal diary. - Shad ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 05:07:50 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Heath "V" From: "Will42" Does anyone have drawings for the Heath "V" that I could buy, borrow or pay to have copied? will@cctc.net Thanks........ Will Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=248822#248822 ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 05:43:48 PM PST US From: Wayne Bressler Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Doug Fir as a substitute My public apologies to Owen for doubting him. I did some searching on the ETLB forums where the Mini-Max guys hang out, and it turns out that those kits have been using some mix of spruce, douglas fir, and "northern" white pine for a number of years. I couldn't find difinitive answers on what was pine, and what was spruce, though. I guess I'll have to dig my fin kit out and have a closer look! I need to check the wood guides to compare the specs on the white pine. Sorry to stray off topic. Wayne Bressler Jr. Taildraggers, Inc. taildraggersinc.com >> >> ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 06:29:17 PM PST US From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]" Subject: Pietenpol-List: making notes on your parts as you build your airplane I wrote some things relating to Michael Feldman's Whady'a Know radio show http://www.notmuch.com/ on some parts of my wing when building on Saturday mornings because (as it turned out) that while I was building I found out that the Michael Feldman show originates from the town of Madison, Wisconsin not too far from Brodhead and not too far from good friends and Piper J-3 Cub owners John, Susan, and Rachel Hofmann. Feldman was always joking about the "land of cheese" and cheese curds and how much Wisconsoner's hate Minnesotian's or whatever you call them. I was HOOKED on that radio show and thankfully it was preceded by Car Talk http://www.cartalk.com/ which is a WHOLE nuther favorite radio show of mine. Ray and Tom are just great. I digress as usual. do not archive Mike C. in Ohio ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 07:50:42 PM PST US From: "Clif Dawson" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: layout notes-- "wingtip" thataway--> It's not a square cushion is it?? Clif "Cogito cogitas, ergo cogito sum." ("I think I think, therefore I think I am.") Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: layout notes-- "wingtip" thataway--> I myself put one of those arrows on the pilot's seat, just so I remember which way I will be going. Dan Helsper ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 08:13:16 PM PST US From: Owen Davies Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Doug Fir as a substitute Wayne Bressler wrote: > My public apologies to Owen for doubting him. No problem. I usually doubt me myself. Owen ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 08:17:08 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpols on the big screen From: "K5YAC" I like the original trailer better, but I am still looking forward to seeing the film. -------- Mark - working on wings Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=248850#248850 ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 08:33:25 PM PST US From: shad bell Subject: Pietenpol-List: A sad conversation Group, Today I made the decision to call the original builder of my Jungste r 1 project to let him know I was still actively working on it.- When I c alled I got the dreaded response I was fearing, "He passed away 2 years ago ", his widdow said.- I had not talked to him since I bought the project 9 years ago.- As fate will have it, we never get things done on the time l ine we think we will.- She was glad to talk with me and said she remember s me coming down to look at it and later coming down to buy it and take it home.- She said she would like some pictures of it when I get it done.- I told her I would keep at it, and fly it down so she could see it when I get it done.- It will be great to (hopefully)-let her see a piece of he r husband's work, break the surley bonds of earth, as did his soul 2 years ago.- Now I feel as if he is looking down on every little thing I do on t he construction of "His" Jungster 1.- If any of you have bought unfinnish ed projects, make sure to contact the original builder sooner than later, or it might be too late as was the case for me. - Shad=0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 31 ____________________________________ Time: 09:22:07 PM PST US From: "gcardinal" Subject: Re: RE: Pietenpol-List: cowling paint Dale used a 1" piece of 3M Scotchbrite pad attached to a wooden dowel in the drillpress. The 1" circles are overlapped 1/4". I don't know how long it took but Dale reports the job as being "tedious". Greg C. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim" Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 4:29 PM Subject: Re: RE: Pietenpol-List: cowling paint > > > Jim Boyer > Santa Rosa, CA > > Hi Dale, > How long did it take to engine turn the cowling? How big a circle and what > did you use for the abrasive to do it? > Thanks, > Jim B. > > > On Jun 17, 2009, ddjohn@earthlink.net wrote: > > > Douwe > > I engine turned the inside & outside. > > Dale > > >> [Original Message] >> From: Douwe Blumberg >> To: pietenpolgroup >> Date: 6/16/2009 9:12:09 PM >> Subject: Pietenpol-List: cowling paint >> > >> >> Hello all, >> >> Did you guys paint the inside of your cowling or leave it bare? >> >> Douwe >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 32 ____________________________________ Time: 10:24:36 PM PST US From: "Rob Stapleton" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Corvair buy Two days ago I had a conversation with an insurance broker associated with EAA who was referred to me by the editor of the Experimenter and Sport magazines. One of my many questions was about insuring a Corvair powered Pietenpol here in Alaska. He advised against it, and informed me there were some states in the U.S. where flying a Pietenpol with a Corvair engine is not covered by any insurance. I would advise anyone who expects to insure their aircraft to check on this first. My plans won't change, to install and build a Wynne Corvair because I can't get insurance either way if it is certified as an ELSA tailwheel here in Alaska. If I build it and certify it as a homebuilt Experimental amateur built, I may be able to get insurance if I hang a certified engine on it. But I don't see the purpose in that because I want to tweak everything to fly on skis and wheels and want to do the work myself. Just some thoughts. Rob Stapleton, Photojournalist Anchorage, AK KL2AN Skype:rob.stapleton.jr -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of shad bell Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 6:51 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Corvair buy Procceed Cautiously! Follow Wynne's mannual, and make sure to have the crank magnafluxed, nitrided, and make sure the journals are properly, and generously, radioused. Corvairs do work good, but only if built Well. Feel free to contact me off list for info, or advise. I am no expert, but have learned a few cold had facts about corvairs, and will let you know my experiances with failures, and succeseses. I flew our piet/ vair for about 3 hrs today and had a blast! 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