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1. 08:15 AM - Re: Pfeifer Sport plans (Tim Willis)
2. 08:23 AM - Re: Pfeifer Sport plans (Mark Roberts)
3. 09:11 AM - Re: Pfeifer Sport plans (Bill Church)
4. 09:38 AM - Re: Pfeifer Sport plans (Mark Roberts)
5. 09:42 AM - Re: Pfeifer Sport plans (jb.spiegel@us.schneider-electric.com)
6. 11:40 AM - Re: LAMA award for Outstanding Individual (K5YAC)
7. 11:56 AM - Fw: jb.spiegel@us.schneider-electric.com sent this to you using Google Maps: Search results for "pietenpol" (jb.spiegel@us.schneider-electric.com)
8. 12:14 PM - Re: Re: LAMA award for Outstanding Individual (Ryan Mueller)
9. 12:21 PM - Re: Fw: jb.spiegel@us.schneider-electric.com sent this to you using Google Maps: Search results for "pietenpol" (brian.e.jardine@l-3com.com)
10. 12:21 PM - Re: Pfeifer Sport plans (Tim Willis)
11. 12:40 PM - Re: Re: LAMA award for Outstanding Individual (jb.spiegel@us.schneider-electric.com)
12. 01:23 PM - Re: Rusty Nuts (jb.spiegel@us.schneider-electric.com)
13. 01:25 PM - Re: LAMA award for Outstanding Individual (K5YAC)
14. 05:19 PM - Re: Pfeifer Sport plans (Darrel Jones)
15. 05:22 PM - Re: Pfeifer Sport plans (Darrel Jones)
16. 07:36 PM - GN-1 plans sheet count (Ameet Savant)
17. 07:49 PM - Re: GN-1 plans sheet count (Rick Holland)
18. 10:23 PM - Photos from Brussels (Bill Church)
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Subject: | Re: Pfeifer Sport plans |
Darrel,
I must have missed the first of this thread. Is the Pfeifer a derivation or a
counterpart of the Pietenpol? If so, what does it do/ how is it built differently?
While I am too far along in the Corky/Tim build to incorporate any of its innovations,
I'm always a curious fellow, as many will attest, often not in the most
polite use of the word.
Tim in central TX
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Subject: | Re: Pfeifer Sport plans |
I too, a newbie to the thread when the Pfeifer was discussed am
curious about it... I will see if I can search the archives an see
what it is, but if you have a pointer towards info, I'd be interested
too...
Mark
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 8:13 AM, Tim Willis<timothywillis@earthlink.net> wrote:
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>
> Darrel,
>
> I must have missed the first of this thread. Is the Pfeifer a derivation or a
counterpart of the Pietenpol? If so, what does it do/ how is it built differently?
>
> While I am too far along in the Corky/Tim build to incorporate any of its innovations,
I'm always a curious fellow, as many will attest, often not in the most
polite use of the word.
>
> Tim in central TX
>
>
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Subject: | Pfeifer Sport plans |
You guys really need to take advantage of the Search function on the
Pietenpol List.
http://www.matronics.com/search/
I just did a search for "Pfeifer" on the Pietenpol List, and came up
with 47 replies. A few minutes of reading and you'll be right up to
speed.
Or, if that's too labor intensive for you, try these links:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=58840&sid=7400dd3c495b564
86e
e22d51a8a19178
here's the original thread:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=57833&highlight=pfeifer
Seriously, though, give the Search function a try - it's a very useful
tool. You can find useful information on just about any Piet-related
topic there.
Bill C.
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Subject: | Re: Pfeifer Sport plans |
Duly noted. Sorry for clogging up the thread. I have not tried the serch
feature of this list yet, so I ill do so in the future before posting.
Thanks for the links Bill!
Mark
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 9:10 AM, Bill Church <eng@canadianrogers.com> wrote:
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>
> You guys really need to take advantage of the Search function on the
> Pietenpol List.
>
> *http://www.matronics.com/search/* <http://www.matronics.com/search/>
>
> I just did a search for "Pfeifer" on the Pietenpol List, and came up with
> 47 replies. A few minutes of reading and you'll be right up to speed.
>
> Or, if that's too labor intensive for you, try these links:
>
> *
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=58840&sid=7400dd3c495b56486ee22d51a8a19178
> *<http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=58840&sid=7400dd3c495b56486ee22d51a8a19178>
>
> here's the original thread:
>
> *http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=57833&highlight=pfeifer*<http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=57833&highlight=pfeifer>
>
> Seriously, though, give the Search function a try - it's a very useful
> tool. You can find useful information on just about any Piet-related topic
> there.
>
> Bill C.
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Pfeifer Sport plans |
Darrel,
I would very much like a set.
Are you planning on being at Brodhead this year? if so I could pick them
up then, save you shipping.
Thanks
Jake Spiegel
1025 5th st
Jesup Iowa, 50648
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Subject: | Re: LAMA award for Outstanding Individual |
Here! Here! I second that.
William spoke to me on the phone for over an hour several months ago, prior to
purchasing a single thing from him. It wasn't a sales pitch... he was very informative
and honest as he answered many of my beginner questions.
I have since purchased several of his educational items. Some of the best $$ I've
spent so far. He and his materials have given me confidence in using the
Corvair.
In fact... here is a photo from my garage yesterday! Car was delivered Friday,
engine was out Saturday... after a few days for the head bolts to soak in PB
Blaster I'll break it down further and get the parts out to the appropriate shops.
Thanks William! Hope you Win!
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you using Google Maps: Search results for "pietenpol"
if anyone would like have a pin added for them let me know.
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=pietenpol&mrt=kmlkmz&sll=42.948381,-91.702881&sspn=5.677084,9.755859&ie=UTF8&z=7
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Subject: | Re: LAMA award for Outstanding Individual |
Mark,
Have fun with the tear-down. The head nuts are always fun to try and remove.
One of the methods we tried, which helped to prevent the studs from turning
out with the nuts, was to take a pair of vise grips and clamp them tightly
onto the head stud near the base of the cylinder (below the fins, so you can
the most engagement). Ideally, have a helper hold the vise grips while you
attempt to turn the nut off the head. Although you can't get a super strong
grip on base of the stud, something is better than nothing, and it can be
just enough to keep the stud from turning on you. We had a pair of vise
grips with slightly worn jaws, so it didn't leave much of a mark on the
studs.
Good luck, and have fun!
Ryan
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 1:40 PM, K5YAC <hangar10@cox.net> wrote:
>
> Here! Here! I second that.
>
> William spoke to me on the phone for over an hour several months ago, prior
> to purchasing a single thing from him. It wasn't a sales pitch... he was
> very informative and honest as he answered many of my beginner questions.
>
> I have since purchased several of his educational items. Some of the best
> $$ I've spent so far. He and his materials have given me confidence in
> using the Corvair.
>
> In fact... here is a photo from my garage yesterday! Car was delivered
> Friday, engine was out Saturday... after a few days for the head bolts to
> soak in PB Blaster I'll break it down further and get the parts out to the
> appropriate shops.
>
> Thanks William! Hope you Win!
>
> --------
> Mark - working on wings
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=249559#249559
>
>
> Attachments:
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> http://forums.matronics.com//files/myvair_183.jpg
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to you using Google Maps: Search results for "pietenpol"
Brian Jardine
SLC-Utah
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Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fw: jb.spiegel@us.schneider-electric.com sent
this to you using Google Maps: Search results for "pietenpol"
if anyone would like have a pin added for them let me know.
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=pie
tenpol&mr
t=kmlkmz&sll=42.948381,-91.702881&sspn=5.677084,9.755859&ie=UTF8&
z=7
<http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=pi
etenpol&m
rt=kmlkmz&sll=42.948381,-91.702881&sspn=5.677084,9.755859&ie=UTF8
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Subject: | Pfeifer Sport plans |
You are right, Bill. Thanks for the reminder and links.
Tim
-----Original Message-----
>From: Bill Church <eng@canadianrogers.com>
>Sent: Jun 22, 2009 11:10 AM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Pfeifer Sport plans
>
>
>You guys really need to take advantage of the Search function on the
>Pietenpol List.
>
>http://www.matronics.com/search/
>
>
>I just did a search for "Pfeifer" on the Pietenpol List, and came up
>with 47 replies. A few minutes of reading and you'll be right up to
>speed.
>Or, if that's too labor intensive for you, try these links:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=58840&sid=7400dd3c495b56486e
>e22d51a8a19178
>
>
>here's the original thread:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=57833&highlight=pfeifer
>
>
>Seriously, though, give the Search function a try - it's a very useful
>tool. You can find useful information on just about any Piet-related
>topic there.
>
>Bill C.
>
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Subject: | Re: LAMA award for Outstanding Individual |
Mark,
Something else that I have done over the years, on other rusty nuts is to
carefully heat the nut/bolt then spray the opposite end of the bolt, or in
your case the middle of the bolt, with R134A, Often the Place the socket
or box end and test for rotation.
Jake
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Mark,
Have fun with the tear-down. The head nuts are always fun to try and
remove. One of the methods we tried, which helped to prevent the studs
from turning out with the nuts, was to take a pair of vise grips and clamp
them tightly onto the head stud near the base of the cylinder (below the
fins, so you can the most engagement). Ideally, have a helper hold the
vise grips while you attempt to turn the nut off the head. Although you
can't get a super strong grip on base of the stud, something is better
than nothing, and it can be just enough to keep the stud from turning on
you. We had a pair of vise grips with slightly worn jaws, so it didn't
leave much of a mark on the studs.
Good luck, and have fun!
Ryan
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 1:40 PM, K5YAC <hangar10@cox.net> wrote:
Here! Here! I second that.
William spoke to me on the phone for over an hour several months ago,
prior to purchasing a single thing from him. It wasn't a sales pitch...
he was very informative and honest as he answered many of my beginner
questions.
I have since purchased several of his educational items. Some of the best
$$ I've spent so far. He and his materials have given me confidence in
using the Corvair.
In fact... here is a photo from my garage yesterday! Car was delivered
Friday, engine was out Saturday... after a few days for the head bolts to
soak in PB Blaster I'll break it down further and get the parts out to the
appropriate shops.
Thanks William! Hope you Win!
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Mark,
Several years ago I purchased Micro Soldering and Welding kit from Harbor
Freight. some of the best money ever spent. It allows you to place pin
point heat exactly where you want it. I have worked on some seriously
rusty stuff over the years and Something else I have done numerous time
with success is to clean any exposed threads with a wire wheel, heat and
apply wax (in the form of left over birthday candles) directly to the
Nut/bolt interface, too much heat and the wax burns, too little and it
just sits there, just right and it will get sucked down into the thread
interface, making removal much easier.
Jake
Micro Torch
3687-6VGA uses disposable cylinders
95671-0VGA hooks to your OA regulators What I have.
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Subject: | Re: LAMA award for Outstanding Individual |
Yep, that is part of the reason I stopped where I did... in order to take my time
and carefully prepare for the head removal. I soaked the head nuts twice yesterday
with PB Blaster. The left side of the engine (as the prop flies) looks
ok (oily and greasy, but the nuts and threads look clean) under all that gook.
The right side is another story... rusty and slightly jagged looking threads.
I'll just continue to be cautious and hopefully they will come off ok.
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Subject: | Re: Pfeifer Sport plans |
Tim,
I thought I had sent you this article on my airplane, but here it is again.
Darrel Jones
Sonoma, CA
Tim Willis wrote:
>
>
> Darrel,
>
> I must have missed the first of this thread. Is the Pfeifer a derivation or
a counterpart of the Pietenpol? If so, what does it do/ how is it built differently?
>
> While I am too far along in the Corky/Tim build to incorporate any of its innovations,
I'm always a curious fellow, as many will attest, often not in the most
polite use of the word.
>
> Tim in central TX
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Pfeifer Sport plans |
Oops! My apologies to the list for sending an attachment in my reply. I
keep forgetting to reply to the sender but my email program includes
everyone.
Tim, I'll send you the Sport Aviation article directly.
I'm looking forward to seeing and meeting everyone at Brodhead this
year! I won't be bringing the Pfeifer, but will be there in a Stinson.
Darrel Jones
Sonoma, CA
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Subject: | GN-1 plans sheet count |
Hello GN-1 builders,
Could anyone tell me if the GN-1 plans have 17 sheets? I have located a GN-1 plans
set for sale and the seller has 17 sheets and neither one of us knows if that
makes it complete. The seller is not a builder and does not know anything
about the plans except they seem to be in good condition.
Thanks!
Ameet
Omaha, NE
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Subject: | Re: GN-1 plans sheet count |
I have the newer CAD GN-1 plans - 10 pages.
Rick
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 8:30 PM, Ameet Savant <ameetsavant@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hello GN-1 builders,
>
> Could anyone tell me if the GN-1 plans have 17 sheets? I have located a
> GN-1 plans set for sale and the seller has 17 sheets and neither one of us
> knows if that makes it complete. The seller is not a builder and does not
> know anything about the plans except they seem to be in good condition.
>
> Thanks!
> Ameet
> Omaha, NE
>
>
--
Rick Holland
Castle Rock, Colorado
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Subject: | Photos from Brussels |
I've just posted some photos I took at the 20th Annual Brussels Pietenpol Picnic,
in Brussels, Ontario on Saturday. They can be found here:
http://www.mykitplane.com/Planes/photoGalleryList2.cfm?AlbumID=342
Bill C.
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