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1. 11:45 AM - Re: corvair mounts (skellytown flyer)
2. 11:54 AM - Rib Spruce strips (Lagowski Morrow)
3. 01:50 PM - A75 progress (Oscar Zuniga)
4. 02:00 PM - Wood shop tools (Will42)
5. 02:09 PM - Re: Rib Spruce strips (bill.kipp)
6. 04:11 PM - Re: Corvair Mounts (Lynn Knoll)
7. 04:54 PM - Re: Re: corvair mounts (Ryan Mueller)
8. 04:54 PM - Re: Rib Spruce strips (Gary Boothe)
9. 06:44 PM - Continental Motor mount plans-- downthrust specifically (Oscar Zuniga)
10. 08:48 PM - Re: list member Steve Dortch Slightly OT (Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB)
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| Subject: | Re: corvair mounts |
Well I was at the hardware store and found some 1/2" O.D. Polyethylene tubing that
seems tough. I think I may try that on my bolts where they pass through the
case holes.I will make a mental note to keep watch on them and see if I can
see any wear.for sure it would be a good item to inspect at annuals.Raymond
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| Subject: | Rib Spruce strips |
I have ~143ft. of 1/4" by 3/8' spruce strips I'll donate to someone's
cause for making Piet. ribs. Ten of the pieces are 12 ft long and the
balance 6 to 8 ft. or so. I'll package in a thin PVC tube for UPS
shipping, in the longest tube UPS will accept. I think that is 10ft.
The deal is the first person to respond who will pay for shipping gets
the batch.
Jim Lagowski, jimdeb@charter.net or 231-264-6489
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Howdy, Pieters-
Not too much progress made on the engine swap. Too many other
fish frying in the pan right now and I've hit a few snags along
the way too. Nothing serious though.
I've updated the engine swap webpage with a picture of latest
progress as well as some notes on what I've gotten done. They
are at the bottom of the page at
http://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/engine/A75.html
Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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The table saw is the heart and soul of any descent wood shop. An older high quality
saw can be bought for a fraction of the cost of a not-so-good-quality new
saw. Most of the older saws are belt drive and have an easily replaceable motor
where many of the new saws are direct drive and cost a small fortune to have
repaired. Look for the heavy cast iron base and table; don't be too concerned
with the fence; it may be missing or in abused condition. I usually replace
it with a plank clamped to the table; sure it's slower to move, but it's also
very accurate and not so much in the way when ripping thin stock. Also, when
working with thin stock, I replace the blade cut-out with a piece of plywood
cut and shaped to fit the cut-out hole; after fitting the plywood to the hole,
turn the saw on and raise the blade and saw right through the ply to the depth
needed for you wood stock; much less chance of the thin stuff catching or falling
through the hole. Ripping long stock needs a steady hand and feather boards,
in-run and out-run tables are a great help. Get the highest quality smooth
cut blade you can find and if you are careful, you won't need to plane the
cuts. It's true that you can buy all your wood sawed and milled to dimension
but you'll likely spend more on the shipping alone than the wood planks purchased
locally will cost. And buying your wood already milled to specs is not as
simple (sometimes) as you might think; I am seeing quiet a few posts where the
quality is not what is required; then you have to dicker with the supplier to
get it replaced (and likely get stuck with the additional shipping) and lost
time and frustration.
Will
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| Subject: | Re: Rib Spruce strips |
Jim
I'm just starting a piet project and could make good use of the material.
i sent an email also.
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| Subject: | Re: Corvair Mounts |
I used McMaster-Carr p/n 5033K35, Extreme Temp Tubing (rated at 500 deg
F) made w/ Teflon, 3/8 id X 1/2 od semi clear white. It's about $7.00
for 1 ft and transportation was $4.75. Good but not cheap.
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: corvair mounts |
I hadn't noticed the question before, so I may be a bit late with this. From
the Corvaircraft archives, here is Mark Langford describing what he used to
mount his engine:
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I'm using "Energy Suspension" 9.810R 3/8" I.D. Shock Tower Grommets,
straight from the local speed shop. I think WW may use some that are a
little larger in diameter, but these work too. I used AN6 bolts with
MS21042 steel lock nuts from Wicks. Also, I used 3/8" ID polyurethane
tubing from Home Depot between the engine case and bolt to take up the slack
in that .56 diameter hole in the case. Washers are large diameter AN970-6
from Wicks.
Mark flies the pants off his KR, so you can't go wrong following his lead.
Ryan
On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 1:45 PM, skellytown flyer <rhano@att.net> wrote:
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> Well I was at the hardware store and found some 1/2" O.D. Polyethylene
> tubing that seems tough. I think I may try that on my bolts where they pass
> through the case holes.I will make a mental note to keep watch on them and
> see if I can see any wear.for sure it would be a good item to inspect at
> annuals.Raymond
>
>
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| Subject: | Rib Spruce strips |
That was a generous offer, Jim..Hat's off!
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(13 ribs down.)
Do not archive
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lagowski
Morrow
Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 11:54 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Rib Spruce strips
I have ~143ft. of 1/4" by 3/8' spruce strips I'll donate to someone's cause
for making Piet. ribs. Ten of the pieces are 12 ft long and the balance 6 to
8 ft. or so. I'll package in a thin PVC tube for UPS shipping, in the
longest tube UPS will accept. I think that is 10ft.
The deal is the first person to respond who will pay for shipping gets the
batch.
Jim Lagowski, jimdeb@charter.net or 231-264-6489
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| Subject: | Continental Motor mount plans-- downthrust specifically |
Mikee asked:
>For any of you (like Greg Cardinal) FLYING behind Continental motor
>mounts that you built from Pietenpol plans, did you build in the
>downthrust as per plans---if so, any comments ?
Greg replied:
>The downthrust on NX18235 is per the plans. It displays a slight
>tendency to go "nose down" when I let go of the stick. It is the same
>at all throttle settings so that indicates it is an aerodynamic issue
>and not related to motor mount downthrust. Any builder weighing more
>than 180# might want to consider extending the motor mount 1 or 2 inches.
So, I took my Pietenpol plan sheet showing the Cont. engine mount out to
the hangar and started checking dimensions of the mount on 41CC to see
what I have. Turns out that my mount has about 1/8" of downthrust built
into the mount and that may not have even been intentional. The plans
call for 9/16" differential between top and
bottom mounts and 41CC has a couple of washers amounting to maybe half
that differential and the washers are only on one side to compensate for
P-factor. My airplane handles a lot like Greg's sounds like his does.
I also found that my mount places the engine 2-3/4" farther forward than
the plans call for. I didn't know that! Every time I study something
on this airplane, I grow to admire Joe Czaplicki and Corky Corbett more
and more because everything they did on it made for a very nice flying
airplane. I guess I should try flying other Piets to see how they
handle compared to this one, but 41CC is light, comfortable, stable,
and it never fails to please. All this talk about slow in roll, heavy
in turns, and sinks like a brick with power off don't mean a thing to
me because this airplane is a real pleasure to fly. It's no Pitts but
when I leave the pattern to go on patrol, me and the airplane are on
the same wavelength and I don't have to watch it every minute. And in
the pattern- the airplane is still my instructor but it always rewards
me when I handle the controls like a pilot and not like a kit builder.
Oops... did I just say that? ;o)
Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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| Subject: | Re: list member Steve Dortch Slightly OT |
This is just Oscar's way a looking for a ride in a "real" plane ;-)
Yes, It did fly, and when Oscar saw me I probably looked worried. And I had a bunch
of airport bums there to give me advice and grade my flight. (I have done
much better takeoffs and landings)
My Bonanza is the 1948 Vtail Bonanza, It comes assembled but requires quite a bit
of disassemby, cleaning, work, replacing parts and reassembly.
I did a super long and super hard Owner Hindered Annual Inspection this year. We
complied with some onerous ADs and I pulled everything out that was not required
(Fighting weight)
This year I/We:
Pulled the interior and cleaned corrosion and old "soundproofing"
crawled through the tail with corrosionX (Actually I sent one of my boys, lighter
and smaller)
Measured all of the skin panels with an ultrasonic digital thickness measuring
device
Pulled the Ruddervaters (You know rudder and elevator combined) and added a bunch
of lead counterweights to the tail to improve the Ruddervator balance.
Reinstalled the ruddervators.
inspected everything for corrosion, cracks and wrinkles.
Checked the cable tension.
Jacked the plane up and cycled the gear repeatedly while checking various components
(More so than normal)
Pulled an Old ADF and an old GPS mount.
Oh yeah we did all those other Annual things too. like compression, cables and
so on. The paper work on this "certified" airplane goes on and on forever.
There is still a lot to do but it flies now.
Oh, I am still interested in something low and slow. maybe a Piet!
Blue Skies,
Steve D
----- Original Message -----
From: Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: list member Steve Dortch
>
>
> Howdy, Pieters;
>
> This is not directly Piet related other than it has to do with a
> member of this list, Steve Dortch. Steve's hangar is one down from mine
> and he's had a ride in my Piet. Anyway, today his V-tail Bonanza
> took to the air after what seems like years of he and his kids and
> dog laboring over getting it airworthy again. When I got to the
> hangar about 1 PM to continue working on my A75, there were guys with
> pencils and checklists crawling all over Steve's airplane and a while
> later, it took off. Engine didn't miss a beat, the airplane must
> have been over the airport for a half hour, and I guess that means
> everything stayed in the green and he's back in the air again.
>
> Having the Bo back will probably break Steve of his need for slow
> flight so he'll probably drop off the list now ;o)
>
> Oscar Zuniga
> Air Camper NX41CC
> San Antonio, TX
> mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
> website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
>
> do not archive
>
>
>
>
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