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     1. 04:12 AM - Stainless firewall (helspersew@aol.com)
     2. 04:53 AM - Re: Stainless firewall (Gene Rambo)
     3. 04:56 AM - Flying to Oshkosh (gcardinal)
     4. 10:52 AM - Re: Shirts Available (wes.shirl@mchsi.com)
     5. 07:24 PM - Packing for Broadhead (Lagowski Morrow)
     6. 07:53 PM - Re: AIrfoil can of worms? (Pieti Lowell)
     7. 08:52 PM - Re: Packing for Broadhead (Tim Willis)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Stainless firewall | 
      
      
      If there was a full-blown fire, lets say as a result of a big fuel leak, how much
      extra time do you all think would be afforded by the firewall? I put mine in
      .016 stainless, but in my mind I am thinking if I ever see a fire, I am going
      to point my nose straight for the ground RIGHT NOW because that firewall might
      give me 15 seconds more life.
      
      Dan Helsper
      Poplar Grove, IL
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Stainless firewall | 
      
      absolutely right, but keep in mind that the firewall is also there to 
      keep something like, say, an exhaust leak, from starting a fire or 
      blowing on a gas tank, for those of you with tanks in front of the front 
      seat.
      
      Gene
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: helspersew@aol.com<mailto:helspersew@aol.com> 
        To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com<mailto:pietenpol-list@matronics.com> 
        Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 7:09 AM
        Subject: Pietenpol-List: Stainless firewall
      
      
        If there was a full-blown fire, lets say as a result of a big fuel 
      leak, how much extra time do you all think would be afforded by the 
      firewall? I put mine in .016 stainless, but in my mind I am thinking if 
      I ever see a fire, I am going to point my nose straight for the ground 
      RIGHT NOW because that firewall might give me 15 seconds more life.
      
        Dan Helsper
        Poplar Grove, IL
      
      
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| Subject:  | Flying to Oshkosh | 
      
      Here is some additional info from the EAA website on arrival procedures. 
      
      
      http://www.airventure.org/atc/vfr_basics.html
      
      
      I talked to Joe Norris yesterday and he said that we will be parked near 
      the "Brown Arches" by the main entrance. 
      I don't know if he meant the MAIN main entrance or the main entrance to 
      the flightline. Either way, it will be a high visibility spot so clean 
      the bugs off of your planes and polish the chrome.......
      
      Camping will be in the general camping area. 
      
      Greg Cardinal
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Shirts Available | 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Packing for Broadhead | 
      
      I would appreciate any tips out there from those of you who have flown 
      cross country and "packed" for same. I've started trial packing using 
      the front seat and the lap and shoulder harnesses.Looks like it will 
      work, especially avoiding anything that would bind controls. Weight is 
      not an issue but volume of stuff.  I suspect there is good advice out 
      there from those of you who have done this before. Besides a minimum of 
      clothes, I'll bring tie downs, a small tent,blanket, sleeping pad, 
      shaving gear, engine oil, camera, money!, cockpit covers to keep my seat 
      dry etc.The important stuff to keep dry I'll put in kayak dry bags. All 
      of it will be bagged.
      
      But, some of you have done this before--so--any good tips out there?
      
      My route will be around the north end of Lake Michigan and then down the 
      Door Peninsula of Wisconsin to Brodhead, about 375 miles. At the moment 
      I have 27 hours on the plane, landings are getting better and my longest 
      trip thus far has been ~60 miles.
      
      I mentioned earliar that my trip is tied to my wife's medical situation. 
      At the moment she is stable and her mom will be coming to stay with her 
      while I'm gone. I can't take the time to go to Oshkosh as well. I have 
      been to Oshkosh with my first plane and have driven to Brodhead twice 
      beore. I am really looking forward to putting faces on the names on 
      e-mails and thanking "you" for your advice and comments in person.
      
      Jim Lagowski, NX221PT, just north of Traverse City, Mi.
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: AIrfoil can of worms? | 
      
      
      Corky, I think what Riblett was saying that' 30 % of the 60" cord is 18"' and Little
      less than 28 % to Max 40 % gives the figures of 16.8 " to 24 ". 
      That is the only way my simple mind figures these things out, but to prove I'm
      wrong or right or some thing, I installed the Werner 145 , that put the forward
      CoG to 18 ". and as you may know, I flew that combo for 2 years . With my weight,
      well over 200 Lbs and sitting on 100 Lbs of steel disks, the CoG was close
      to 40 " and a lighter engine up front, the Piet also flew . not as well. Would
      never do tight turns or spins..
      The more knowledge Pieters can give better answers when they go over all of Riblett's
      specs, that he sent me.I think the 15 % figure is a thickness number for
      a much deeper airfoil, I think the Piet % is close to10.3 %. This is defined
      in some of Ribletts letters of which I will try to bring to Brodhead.
      Pieti Lowell
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=252232#252232
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Packing for Broadhead | 
      
      
      mosquito repellent ;)  
      
      
      -----Original Message----- 
      From: Lagowski Morrow 
      Sent: Jul 8, 2009 9:23 PM 
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Packing for Broadhead 
      
      
      I would appreciate any tips out there from those of you who have flown cross country
      and "packed" for same. I've started trial packing using the front seat and
      the lap and shoulder harnesses.Looks like it will work, especially avoiding
      anything that would bind controls. Weight is not an issue but volume of stuff.
      I suspect there is good advice out there from those of you who have done this
      before. Besides a minimum of clothes, I'll bring tie downs, a small tent,blanket,
      sleeping pad, shaving gear, engine oil, camera, money!, cockpit covers
      to keep my seat dry etc.The important stuff to keep dry I'll put in kayak dry
      bags. All of it will be bagged.
      
      But, some of you have done this before--so--any good tips out there?
      
      My route will be around the north end of Lake Michigan and then down the Door Peninsula
      of Wisconsin to Brodhead, about 375 miles. At the moment I have 27 hours
      on the plane, landings are getting better and my longest trip thus far has
      been ~60 miles.
      
      I mentioned earliar that my trip is tied to my wife's medical situation. At the
      moment she is stable and her mom will be coming to stay with her while I'm gone.
      I can't take the time to go to Oshkosh as well. I have been to Oshkosh with
      my first plane and have driven to Brodhead twice beore. I am really looking
      forward to putting faces on the names on e-mails and thanking "you" for your advice
      and comments in person.
      
      Jim Lagowski, NX221PT, just north of Traverse City, Mi.
      
      
 
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