---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 07/08/09: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:12 AM - Stainless firewall (helspersew@aol.com) 2. 04:53 AM - Re: Stainless firewall (Gene Rambo) 3. 04:56 AM - Flying to Oshkosh (gcardinal) 4. 10:52 AM - Re: Shirts Available (wes.shirl@mchsi.com) 5. 07:24 PM - Packing for Broadhead (Lagowski Morrow) 6. 07:53 PM - Re: AIrfoil can of worms? (Pieti Lowell) 7. 08:52 PM - Re: Packing for Broadhead (Tim Willis) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:12:52 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Stainless firewall From: helspersew@aol.com If there was a full-blown fire, lets say as a result of a big fuel leak, how much extra time do you all think would be afforded by the firewall? I put mine in .016 stainless, but in my mind I am thinking if I ever see a fire, I am going to point my nose straight for the ground RIGHT NOW because that firewall might give me 15 seconds more life. Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:53:07 AM PST US From: "Gene Rambo" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Stainless firewall absolutely right, but keep in mind that the firewall is also there to keep something like, say, an exhaust leak, from starting a fire or blowing on a gas tank, for those of you with tanks in front of the front seat. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: helspersew@aol.com To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 7:09 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Stainless firewall If there was a full-blown fire, lets say as a result of a big fuel leak, how much extra time do you all think would be afforded by the firewall? I put mine in .016 stainless, but in my mind I am thinking if I ever see a fire, I am going to point my nose straight for the ground RIGHT NOW because that firewall might give me 15 seconds more life. Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:56:47 AM PST US From: "gcardinal" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Flying to Oshkosh Here is some additional info from the EAA website on arrival procedures. http://www.airventure.org/atc/vfr_basics.html I talked to Joe Norris yesterday and he said that we will be parked near the "Brown Arches" by the main entrance. I don't know if he meant the MAIN main entrance or the main entrance to the flightline. Either way, it will be a high visibility spot so clean the bugs off of your planes and polish the chrome....... Camping will be in the general camping area. Greg Cardinal ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:52:10 AM PST US From: wes.shirl@mchsi.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Shirts Available ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:24:32 PM PST US From: "Lagowski Morrow" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Packing for Broadhead I would appreciate any tips out there from those of you who have flown cross country and "packed" for same. I've started trial packing using the front seat and the lap and shoulder harnesses.Looks like it will work, especially avoiding anything that would bind controls. Weight is not an issue but volume of stuff. I suspect there is good advice out there from those of you who have done this before. Besides a minimum of clothes, I'll bring tie downs, a small tent,blanket, sleeping pad, shaving gear, engine oil, camera, money!, cockpit covers to keep my seat dry etc.The important stuff to keep dry I'll put in kayak dry bags. All of it will be bagged. But, some of you have done this before--so--any good tips out there? My route will be around the north end of Lake Michigan and then down the Door Peninsula of Wisconsin to Brodhead, about 375 miles. At the moment I have 27 hours on the plane, landings are getting better and my longest trip thus far has been ~60 miles. I mentioned earliar that my trip is tied to my wife's medical situation. At the moment she is stable and her mom will be coming to stay with her while I'm gone. I can't take the time to go to Oshkosh as well. I have been to Oshkosh with my first plane and have driven to Brodhead twice beore. I am really looking forward to putting faces on the names on e-mails and thanking "you" for your advice and comments in person. Jim Lagowski, NX221PT, just north of Traverse City, Mi. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:53:17 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: AIrfoil can of worms? From: "Pieti Lowell" Corky, I think what Riblett was saying that' 30 % of the 60" cord is 18"' and Little less than 28 % to Max 40 % gives the figures of 16.8 " to 24 ". That is the only way my simple mind figures these things out, but to prove I'm wrong or right or some thing, I installed the Werner 145 , that put the forward CoG to 18 ". and as you may know, I flew that combo for 2 years . With my weight, well over 200 Lbs and sitting on 100 Lbs of steel disks, the CoG was close to 40 " and a lighter engine up front, the Piet also flew . not as well. Would never do tight turns or spins.. The more knowledge Pieters can give better answers when they go over all of Riblett's specs, that he sent me.I think the 15 % figure is a thickness number for a much deeper airfoil, I think the Piet % is close to10.3 %. This is defined in some of Ribletts letters of which I will try to bring to Brodhead. Pieti Lowell Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=252232#252232 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:52:03 PM PST US From: Tim Willis Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Packing for Broadhead mosquito repellent ;) -----Original Message----- From: Lagowski Morrow Sent: Jul 8, 2009 9:23 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Packing for Broadhead I would appreciate any tips out there from those of you who have flown cross country and "packed" for same. I've started trial packing using the front seat and the lap and shoulder harnesses.Looks like it will work, especially avoiding anything that would bind controls. Weight is not an issue but volume of stuff. I suspect there is good advice out there from those of you who have done this before. Besides a minimum of clothes, I'll bring tie downs, a small tent,blanket, sleeping pad, shaving gear, engine oil, camera, money!, cockpit covers to keep my seat dry etc.The important stuff to keep dry I'll put in kayak dry bags. All of it will be bagged. But, some of you have done this before--so--any good tips out there? My route will be around the north end of Lake Michigan and then down the Door Peninsula of Wisconsin to Brodhead, about 375 miles. At the moment I have 27 hours on the plane, landings are getting better and my longest trip thus far has been ~60 miles. I mentioned earliar that my trip is tied to my wife's medical situation. At the moment she is stable and her mom will be coming to stay with her while I'm gone. I can't take the time to go to Oshkosh as well. I have been to Oshkosh with my first plane and have driven to Brodhead twice beore. I am really looking forward to putting faces on the names on e-mails and thanking "you" for your advice and comments in person. Jim Lagowski, NX221PT, just north of Traverse City, Mi. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.