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     2. 06:05 AM - Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 17 Msgs - 07/09/09 (tbyh@aol.com)
     3. 06:09 AM - Re: engine run (Jeff Boatright)
     4. 07:14 AM - Looking for Pietenpols to fly in EAA's Homebuilt Review during 'Showcase' time slots (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation])
     5. 07:40 AM - Re: engine run- prop design (helspersew@aol.com)
     6. 07:40 AM - Re: Looking for Pietenpols to fly in EAA's 	Homebuilt Review during 'Showcase' time slots (TOM STINEMETZE)
     7. 07:48 AM - Re: Looking for Pietenpols to fly in EAA's 	Homebuilt Review during 'Showcase' time slots (Gary Boothe)
     8. 03:40 PM - Re: Looking for Pietenpols to fly in EAA's Homebuilt Review during 'Showcase' time slots (shad bell)
     9. 04:04 PM - Re: Looking for Pietenpols to fly in EAA's Homebuilt Review during 'Showcase' time slots (Gary Boothe)
    10. 05:10 PM - Re: Packing for Broadhead (Andrew M Eldredge)
    11. 06:52 PM - eyebrows (skellytown flyer)
    12. 07:24 PM - Re: eyebrows (shad bell)
 
 
 
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      Hi Don,
      
      Congratulations on your Ford A start-up. I just ran mine for the first time last
      November. I timed my mags (aftermarket 8 plug head) to 30 degrees before TC
      with 25 degree lag on the impulses.?It fires off after a shot of prime and a couple
      blades pull-through. Here is the link to the video. That is my wife screaming
      in the background.
      http://s564.photobucket.com/albums/ss83/dhelsper/?action=view¤t=1ststart-upmodelAwithcarvedprop.flv
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: donald lane <dslane@embarqmail.com>
      Sent: Thu, Jul 9, 2009 8:57 pm
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: engine run
      
      
      I passed one more milestone today.? Ran the Ford engine for about 2 minutes.? I
      was trying to start it earlier today with a friend assisting.? It would only
      fire one cylinder with the impulse, occasionally.? After he left, I advanced the
      timing a little more and it started on the second flip of the prop.? Unfortunately,
      I didn't have the camera out there with me and I had turned off the gas
      at the tank, so when my wife heard it start and ran out with the camera, it
      was running great, but stopped before she could get a picture.? Then I couldn't
      get it started again.? At least now I know that it will run and just have to
      figure out the proper procedure to start it.? Still need to build the cowling
      and then put the wings and tail back on.? Hopefully it will go back together
      again ok, now that the fabric is on it.? I haven't tried to put the ailerons
      on the wings, or the tail back together since they were covered.
      
      Don Lane
      
      Minnesott Beach
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 17 Msgs - 07/09/09 | 
      
      
      At various?Navy towns?like Norfolk, San Diego, Pensacola, etc. the locals put signs
      out in their yards:
      ?
      "Dogs and sailors keep off the grass!" 
      
      Navy pilots do it better!
      
      See you all?in two weeks! 
      
      Fred B.
      La Crosse, WI
      
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      Dan,
      
      I love that video. How did you choose that prop? Did you design it?
      
      Thanks,
      
      Jeff
      -- 
      ---
      
      Jeffrey H. Boatright, Ph.D.
      Associate Professor of Ophthalmology
      Emory University School of Medicine
      Editor-in-Chief
      Molecular Vision
      
      
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| Subject:  | Looking for Pietenpols to fly in EAA's Homebuilt Review | 
      during  'Showcase' time slots
      
       EAA is considering featuring Pietenpols during either a Wednesday the 29th
       or Saturday August 1st  Homebuilt
      Review Showcase time slot where we would launch roughly five Piets with var
      ious engines--- one Model A, one Corvair, one Continental,  and fly a racet
      rack pattern in front of the crowd while an announcer describes the airplan
      e and various engine types for a few minutes.
      
      EAA needs to know---- would the Wednesday time slot be better ???     My pr
      eliminary answer to them was YES as I think most of you will be long gone w
      ith your Pietenpols by Saturday August 1st.
      
      LASTLY-I need to know if we have ENOUGH GUYS to fly a five-ship fly-by....a
      t least with various powerplants or not.  If we have enough guys there will
      ing to fly, EAA will give us some good face time with the crowd-which would
       be wonderful.
      
      Thank you !
      
      Mike C.
      
      PS-Please respond directly to me so as not to clutter up the list unnecessa
      rily.
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: engine run- prop design | 
      
      
      Jeff,
      
      I found that prop besign once at Brodhead. I took a photo of it and scaled it up
      to a 76" prop design. Then I learned how to carve a prop when I was at Oshkosh
      '07. I used a chain saw and 7" disc sander. I actually have produced a detailed
      instructional CD (not a video) on how to do it. I have them for sale now.
      Contact me off-list if you might be interested.
      
      Dan Helsper
      Poplar Grove, IL.
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: Jeff Boatright <jboatri@emory.edu>
      Sent: Fri, Jul 10, 2009 8:09 am
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: engine run
      
      
      ?
      Dan,?
      ?
      I love that video. How did you choose that prop? Did you design it??
      ?
      Thanks,?
      ?
      Jeff?
      -- ---?
      ?
      Jeffrey H. Boatright, Ph.D.?
      Associate Professor of Ophthalmology?
      Emory University School of Medicine?
      Editor-in-Chief?
      Molecular Vision?
      ?
      ?
      ?
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Looking for Pietenpols to fly in EAA's 	Homebuilt | 
      Review during  'Showcase' time slots
      
      It would also be great if somebody could be there with a video camera to
      record this for posterity.
      
      Tom S. in beautiful Kansas but despondent about being at neither
      Broadhead or Oshkosh!
      
      
      >>> "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]"
      <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov> 7/10/2009 9:13 AM >>>
      
      
       EAA is considering featuring Pietenpols during either a Wednesday the
      29th or Saturday August 1st  Homebuilt
      Review Showcase time slot where we would launch roughly five Piets with
      various engines--- one Model A, one Corvair, one Continental,  and fly a
      racetrack pattern in front of the crowd while an announcer describes the
      airplane and various engine types for a few minutes.  
      
      EAA needs to know---- would the Wednesday time slot be better ???    
      My preliminary answer to them was YES as I think most of you will be
      long gone with your Pietenpols by Saturday August 1st.    
      
      LASTLYI need to know if we have ENOUGH GUYS to fly a five-ship
      fly-by.at least with various powerplants or not.  If we have enough
      guys there willing to fly, EAA will give us some good face time with the
      crowdwhich would be wonderful. 
      
      Thank you !
      
      Mike C. 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Looking for Pietenpols to fly in EAA's 	Homebuilt | 
      Review during  'Showcase' time slots
      
      ".Tom S. in beautiful Kansas but despondent about being at neither Broadhead
      or Oshkosh."
      
      
      Keep sharp objects away from Tom.
      
      
      Gary Boothe
      
      Cool, Ca.
      
      Pietenpol
      
      WW Corvair Conversion
      
      Tail done, Fuselage on gear
      
      (13 ribs down.)
      
      Do not archive
      
        _____  
      
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of TOM
      STINEMETZE
      Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 7:41 AM
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Looking for Pietenpols to fly in EAA's
      Homebuilt Review during 'Showcase' time slots
      
      
      It would also be great if somebody could be there with a video camera to
      record this for posterity.
      
      
      >>> "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]"
      <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov> 7/10/2009 9:13 AM >>>
      
       EAA is considering featuring Pietenpols during either a Wednesday the 29th
      or Saturday August 1st  Homebuilt
      
      Review Showcase time slot where we would launch roughly five Piets with
      various engines--- one Model A, one Corvair, one Continental,  and fly a
      racetrack pattern in front of the crowd while an announcer describes the
      airplane and various engine types for a few minutes.  
      
      
      EAA needs to know---- would the Wednesday time slot be better ???     My
      preliminary answer to them was YES as I think most of you will be long gone
      with your Pietenpols by Saturday August 1st.    
      
      
      LASTLY-I need to know if we have ENOUGH GUYS to fly a five-ship fly-by..at
      least with various powerplants or not.  If we have enough guys there willing
      to fly, EAA will give us some good face time with the crowd-which would be
      wonderful. 
      
      
      Thank you !
      
      
      Mike C. 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Looking for Pietenpols to fly in EAA's  Homebuilt | 
      Review during  'Showcase' time slots
      
      
      
      I think I plan on flying home on tues a.m. so I don't think I would be able to.
      I found another problem we have to fix on the piet before Brodhead.  The flywheel/
      ring gear is cracked (again) so time to make some mods to the starter setup.
      Bell Corvair mk4, hoping to make the big show.  Time for some nuts, bolts,
      machine work, and then some cold beer.
      
      Hope to see y'all there,
      Shad
      
      p.s. I know, I know, should have put a Continental on it.....But what would I have
      learned! ha ha ha
      
      
            
      
      
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| Subject:  | Looking for Pietenpols to fly in EAA's  Homebuilt | 
      Review during  'Showcase' time slots
      
      
      Shad,
      
      Bight your tongue, Boy! Just bring some bailing wire and duct tape....
      
      Gary Boothe
      Cool, Ca.
      Pietenpol
      WW Corvair Conversion
      Tail done, Fuselage on gear
      (13 ribs down.)
      Do not archive
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of shad bell
      Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 3:37 PM
      Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Looking for Pietenpols to fly in EAA's
      Homebuilt Review during 'Showcase' time slots
      
      
      
      I think I plan on flying home on tues a.m. so I don't think I would be able
      to.  I found another problem we have to fix on the piet before Brodhead.
      The flywheel/ ring gear is cracked (again) so time to make some mods to the
      starter setup.  Bell Corvair mk4, hoping to make the big show.  Time for
      some nuts, bolts, machine work, and then some cold beer.
      
      Hope to see y'all there,
      Shad
      
      p.s. I know, I know, should have put a Continental on it.....But what would
      I have learned! ha ha ha
      
      
            
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Packing for Broadhead | 
      
      Ive had luck belting bags to the front seat,  I had the front stick REMOVED,
      though, which made it almost impossible for it to get bound.  Rudder was
      probably the greatest vulnerability.
      
      Andrew
      
      On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 10:26 AM, <CozyGirrrl@aol.com> wrote:
      
      >  Thursday morning, driving down after setting up camp at Osh.
      > ...Chrissi & Randi
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      > yocum@fnal.gov writes:
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      >
      > Jim and everyone,
      >
      > That trip sounds like a blast!
      >
      > On the topic of arriving at Brodhead, when are people planning on
      > getting there?
      >
      > I am only able to get away for either Thursday or Friday and can't make
      > it Saturday since my wife works that weekend which makes me Mr. Mom for
      > our twin 2.5 year old daughters (aside - what *is* it with Pieters and
      > twins girls?  I think it might be genetic...).
      >
      > Anyway, I'm thinking more folks will be there on Friday than on
      > Thursday.  Thoughts?
      >
      > Thanks,
      > Dan
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      I am wondering what you that have made air scoops for the Corvair used and how
      you shaped the front edge of them. I would like to have either a beaded edge or
      something to stiffen it.anyway any tips or pictures would be helpful.Raymond
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=252519#252519
      
      
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      Raamond, We just used the stock corvair fan shroud with the front cut out, and
      the hole for the blower was covered with sheet metal welded in.  Look at westcostpiet.com
      and I think there are some good pictures with the cowling off.  As
      far as making some out of aluminum, I would recomend using soft aluminum .040"
      or so and wrap the edge with a thin steel wire for added stiffness.
      
      Shad
      
      --- On Fri, 7/10/09, skellytown flyer <rhano@att.net> wrote:
      
      > From: skellytown flyer <rhano@att.net>
      > Subject: Pietenpol-List: eyebrows
      > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      > Date: Friday, July 10, 2009, 9:51 PM
      > --> Pietenpol-List message posted
      > by: "skellytown flyer" <rhano@att.net>
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      > I am wondering what you that have made air scoops for the
      > Corvair used and how you shaped the front edge of them. I
      > would like to have either a beaded edge or something to
      > stiffen it.anyway any tips or pictures would be
      > helpful.Raymond
      > 
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