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1. 03:09 AM - Re: tin cans (Jack)
2. 05:12 AM - Cliff's landing gear legs (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation])
3. 06:42 AM - Re: Yesterday's Milestone (Tim Willis)
4. 07:13 AM - Re: Yesterday's Milestone (Bill Church)
5. 07:44 AM - moth type wing tank (Dave Abramson)
6. 07:57 AM - Re: Missing Person (Don Emch)
7. 08:41 AM - Re: tail weight (Dan Yocum)
8. 10:19 AM - Re: tail weight (Jack Phillips)
9. 11:41 AM - Re: tail weight (Mark Roberts)
10. 12:40 PM - Talked with Bill Rewey regarding Pietenpols to Oshkosh (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation])
11. 01:55 PM - Re: Brodhead or bust (Gene Rambo)
12. 02:13 PM - Re: Brodhead or bust (brian.e.jardine@l-3com.com)
13. 05:16 PM - Re: Brodhead or bust (Gary Boothe)
14. 06:17 PM - Re: easy beaded cowling edge (Steve Ruse)
15. 07:10 PM - lamintated spar (TOM MICHELLE BRANT)
16. 08:24 PM - Re: Yesterday's Milestone (Clif Dawson)
17. 09:23 PM - Re: tail weight ()
18. 09:39 PM - Re: tail weight (Mark Roberts)
19. 10:52 PM - For sale in Vancouver (Clif Dawson)
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I'll be damned, it fooled me and I built one. Still trying to get my foot
out of my mouth.
Jack
www.textors.com
Jack Textor--- believe it or not that airplane behind me in the photo wasn't
an RV....but an ALL WOOD Corby Starlet that I owned
for four years from 2004 to 2008. The airplane is now back with it's
original builder who said "if you ever consider selling it, give me
a call" and he bought it back.
The Heilman's Old Style beer can from Wisconsin is about the only tin in
that photo and I'm having to guess it is mostly aluminum:)
Mike C.
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Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
05:56:00
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Subject: | Cliff's landing gear legs |
Cliff-- that's a great idea I see in your photo--- the thin pieces of birch
plywood
at the top end of your wooden gear legs where the bolts go thru---- that wi
ll help
prevent splitting over time. Excellent idea. On old airplanes like Curt
iss Jenny's
and WWII types they often (and you'll see some modern day Piets w/ this too
) wrapped
the upper end of the gear legs with twine and glue/varnished them in place
to keep
the wood from splitting up there.
Regarding aging, I'll never forget the words of our hilarious neighbor grow
ing
up Mr. Johnstone. When they had an 80th birthday party for Tom I was tal
king to him and he
casually mentioned to me "don't worry kid, the first 80 years are the tough
est".
Mike C.
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Subject: | Re: Yesterday's Milestone |
Clif,
That LG is just GOERGEOUS !!!
Tim in central TX
do not archive
-----Original Message-----
>From: Clif Dawson <CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca>
>Sent: Jul 14, 2009 12:23 AM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Yesterday's Milestone
>
>Lady, you ask if this old man is safe to fly?
>Just how do you think he got to be this old anyway?
>
>Clif
>
>"There is no end. There is no beginning. There is only the infinite passion
>of life." ~ Frederico Fellini
>
>>
>> Mike,
>> I think the milestone is the true indicator of your flying. Your 50th
>> birthday speaks for itself.
>> Happy birthday and welcome to the second half.
>> Mike Hardaway
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Subject: | Yesterday's Milestone |
Tim,
Are you referring to Mike's legs?
Do not archive this either.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim
Willis
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 9:21 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Yesterday's Milestone
--> <timothywillis@earthlink.net>
Clif,
That LG is just GOERGEOUS !!!
Tim in central TX
do not archive
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Subject: | moth type wing tank |
Howdy!
I was planning on doing this exact same thing! Can you please e-mail me a
couple photos?
davea@symbolicdisplays.com
Thank You soooooo much!!!!
Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Douwe
Blumberg
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 5:09 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: moth type wing tank
<douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
Carson,
I've built a moth type tank in my center section. There should be some
shots of it posted by now at westcoastpiet.com
If not, I'd be happy to email you some. Holds 16.5 US gallons.
Douwe
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Subject: | Re: Missing Person |
Hey John!
How are you? Skip is usually on this list. Maybe he'll chime in. Am I going
to see you next week?
Don Emch
NX899DE
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Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=252958#252958
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Jack,
Jack Phillips wrote:
> I found it difficult to get the tail up on takeoff until I got up to 40
> mph, so I added a strip of duct tape to seal the gap between the
> stabilizer and elevators. Now I can raise the tail after Ive travelled
> about 100 feet. The gap seal also affected trim in level flight,
> requiring more nose up trim than it used to. I could probably remove
> those washers and take the incidence out and it would be just about right.
Did you apply the duct tape to the top or the bottom of horizontal
stabilizer?
Boy, I'm really looking forward to taking a ton of pictures of all of
your planes next week at Brodhead!
Thanks,
Dan
--
Dan Yocum
Fermilab 630.840.6509
yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
Fermilab. Just zeros and ones.
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I put the duct tape on the bottom, as a temporary experiment. 3 years
later, it's still there.
Jack
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Yocum
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 11:16 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: tail weight
Jack,
Jack Phillips wrote:
> I found it difficult to get the tail up on takeoff until I got up to 40
> mph, so I added a strip of duct tape to seal the gap between the
> stabilizer and elevators. Now I can raise the tail after I've travelled
> about 100 feet. The gap seal also affected trim in level flight,
> requiring more nose up trim than it used to. I could probably remove
> those washers and take the incidence out and it would be just about right.
Did you apply the duct tape to the top or the bottom of horizontal
stabilizer?
Boy, I'm really looking forward to taking a ton of pictures of all of
your planes next week at Brodhead!
Thanks,
Dan
--
Dan Yocum
Fermilab 630.840.6509
yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
Fermilab. Just zeros and ones.
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Hey Dan (and all the rest taking lots of pictures):
Please post them somewhere or send them to me on disk and I will post
them on my Google account so we can all see the education :-)
Mark
Mark Roberts
On Jul 14, 2009, at 10:16 AM, "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
wrote:
> >
>
> I put the duct tape on the bottom, as a temporary experiment. 3 years
> later, it's still there.
>
> Jack
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan
> Yocum
> Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 11:16 AM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: tail weight
>
>
> Jack,
>
> Jack Phillips wrote:
>
>> I found it difficult to get the tail up on takeoff until I got up
>> to 40
>> mph, so I added a strip of duct tape to seal the gap between the
>> stabilizer and elevators. Now I can raise the tail after I've
>> travelled
>> about 100 feet. The gap seal also affected trim in level flight,
>> requiring more nose up trim than it used to. I could probably remove
>> those washers and take the incidence out and it would be just about
>> right.
>
>
> Did you apply the duct tape to the top or the bottom of horizontal
> stabilizer?
>
> Boy, I'm really looking forward to taking a ton of pictures of all of
> your planes next week at Brodhead!
>
> Thanks,
> Dan
>
> --
> Dan Yocum
> Fermilab 630.840.6509
> yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
> Fermilab. Just zeros and ones.
>
>
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Subject: | Talked with Bill Rewey regarding Pietenpols to Oshkosh |
Here is the scoop if you intend to fly into Oshkosh.
You are encouraged to fly in with your own handheld radio if you like-there
is no requirement to meet up at Waupun to stage.
If you have a handheld radio USE IT. Borrow one, bring one, just to list
en to the Fisk controllers, even if you're not the leader of a gaggle
Everyone should leave Brodhead with enough fuel to reach Oshkosh-there is n
o fuel at Waupun.
Next-and this is HUGE. The ASPHALT AT Waupun in NOT USEABLE !!!!!!!!!
Only use the E-W Grass runway !!!!!!!!! Do NOT USE THE PAVEMENT.
There is no gas at Waupun. Some may help meet you there with gas but be
advised there is no gas at Waupun.
Group leaders will get a clearance from the OSH tower via phone at Waupun a
nd then proceed via the normal Fisk approach.
The four or five ships behind the group leader SHOULD also have radios to l
isten up-you don't need to say a word but it is advisable to listen to what
is going on.
Normally there is =BD mile in-trail spacing between Fisk airplanes enterin
g the Ripon corridor----if you're in a Piet gaggle the spacing is MUCH CLOS
ER....not formation flying but say 100, 200 yards behind the guy in front o
f you.
Bill said the gaggles will fly slightly offset from the RR tracks from Ripo
n to Fisk so that faster traffic can pass you. (this per the Chief OSH t
ower controller that Bill has spoken to about this)
Whatever your leader does, you follow. If cleared to 27, you follow and l
and on 27. You MUST read the NOTAM cover to cover !
You can obtain a NOTAM (they'll mail it to you) or print it out---Go here:
http://www.airventure.org/flying/
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Subject: | Re: Brodhead or bust |
who all are coming in on airlines? Where? When? Maybe we can work out
a way to meet and share rental car. I'm kinda flexible where and when
to go into.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: AMsafetyC@aol.com<mailto:AMsafetyC@aol.com>
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com<mailto:pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 10:45 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead or bust
Larry,
Well done! I wish it were me but unfortunately not for a few more
years I suspect. Its the school buss people moving metal bird for me.
Best of luck in your travels.
Hers looking forward to seeing you there, safe flight
John
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Subject: | Brodhead or bust |
My brother and I are flying into Chicago from SLC arriving around 8:30
pm on Thursday the 23rd. Driving to the AmericInn at Monroe that night
and to Brodhead the next day.
Brian
SLC - UT
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gene
Rambo
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 2:42 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead or bust
who all are coming in on airlines? Where? When? Maybe we can work out
a way to meet and share rental car. I'm kinda flexible where and when
to go into.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: AMsafetyC@aol.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 10:45 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead or bust
Larry,
Well done! I wish it were me but unfortunately not for a few
more years I suspect. Its the school buss people moving metal bird for
me. Best of luck in your travels.
Hers looking forward to seeing you there, safe flight
John
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Subject: | Brodhead or bust |
I'm flying into Midway, 6:25pm, Wednesday night; have rental car to drive to
Beloit same evening.
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(13 ribs down.)
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gene Rambo
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 1:42 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead or bust
who all are coming in on airlines? Where? When? Maybe we can work out a
way to meet and share rental car. I'm kinda flexible where and when to go
into.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: AMsafetyC@aol.com
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 10:45 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead or bust
Larry,
Well done! I wish it were me but unfortunately not for a few more years I
suspect. Its the school buss people moving metal bird for me. Best of luck
in your travels.
Hers looking forward to seeing you there, safe flight
John
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Subject: | Re: easy beaded cowling edge |
That sounds like a great idea. I might try that on my new eyebrows.
Steve Ruse
Norman, OK
----- Original Message -----
From: "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 7:14 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: easy beaded cowling edge
> <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
>
> Just finished my cowling (Ford) and when I sat back to admire it, really
> felt the need for a nice rolled or beaded edge to give the various cutouts
> that nice finished look. Not having the tooling or expertise to do a true
> rolled edge, I came up with this idea. I'm sure it's not new, but it was
> new to me and I'm really pleased with it.
>
> Get some soft 1/4" aluminum tubing from the plumbing dept at your local
> hardware store. Straighten it really well and put a slice down one side
> with a cutting disc in an angle grinder. Open the slice a bit with a
> screwdriver and slide it over your cowling edge and
> bend/shape/form/straighten until it fits perfectly. Remove, deburr it a
> bit
> and inject some epoxy in the slot, reinstall and crimp with a padded
> channel
> lock or something.
>
> Was surprisingly quick, cheap, light and how that it's painted, it is my
> favorite part of the whole cowling.
>
> Douwe
>
>
>
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I was wondering if anyone has taken something like (2) 3" wide pieces of sp
ruce and edge glued them together to make spar material. I believe this is
acceptable after reading the EAA "Wood" book. I called Mccormicks to chec
k into their lumber supply and they have a lot of 1x9 material - so with 4
3/4" spars you'd need to laminate the second part or you couldn't use the r
est of the board for spar. $9/board foot. I ordered (4) 16 footers for th
e fuselage and tail section and nearly all of the stuff was spar quality ev
en without handpicking. This place is located in Madison=2C WI - 1 hour no
rth of Brodhead... Guess when I'm going to get my spars :) See you all at
Brodhead!
Tom B.
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Subject: | Re: Yesterday's Milestone |
Thanks Tim. I won't tell you about the time and frustrations involved! :-)
Clif
> Clif,
>
> That LG is just GOERGEOUS !!!
> Tim in central TX
> do not archive
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Hey Dan,
Have you see tnis website?
http://westcoastpiet.com/
(I know shameless plug)
Chris
Sacramento, CA
WestCoastPiet.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Roberts" <mark.rbrts1@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 11:29 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: tail weight
>
> Hey Dan (and all the rest taking lots of pictures):
>
> Please post them somewhere or send them to me on disk and I will post
> them on my Google account so we can all see the education :-)
>
> Mark
>
>
> Mark Roberts
>
> On Jul 14, 2009, at 10:16 AM, "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
> wrote:
>
>> <pietflyr@bellsouth.net
>> >
>>
>> I put the duct tape on the bottom, as a temporary experiment. 3 years
>> later, it's still there.
>>
>> Jack
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan
>> Yocum
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 11:16 AM
>> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: tail weight
>>
>>
>> Jack,
>>
>> Jack Phillips wrote:
>>
>>> I found it difficult to get the tail up on takeoff until I got up to 40
>>> mph, so I added a strip of duct tape to seal the gap between the
>>> stabilizer and elevators. Now I can raise the tail after I've
>>> travelled
>>> about 100 feet. The gap seal also affected trim in level flight,
>>> requiring more nose up trim than it used to. I could probably remove
>>> those washers and take the incidence out and it would be just about
>>> right.
>>
>>
>> Did you apply the duct tape to the top or the bottom of horizontal
>> stabilizer?
>>
>> Boy, I'm really looking forward to taking a ton of pictures of all of
>> your planes next week at Brodhead!
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Dan
>>
>> --
>> Dan Yocum
>> Fermilab 630.840.6509
>> yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
>> Fermilab. Just zeros and ones.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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It's a great site... In fact, it's a better place to post the pictures :o)
In fact Chis, I surf it nightly at this point !
Mark
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 9:22 PM, <catdesigns@att.net> wrote:
>
> Hey Dan,
>
> Have you see tnis website?
>
> http://westcoastpiet.com/
>
> (I know shameless plug)
>
> Chris
> Sacramento, CA
> WestCoastPiet.com
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Roberts" <mark.rbrts1@gmail.com>
> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 11:29 AM
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: tail weight
>
>
>> >
>>
>>
>> Hey Dan (and all the rest taking lots of pictures):
>>
>> Please post them somewhere or send them to me on disk and I will post them
>> on my Google account so we can all see the education :-)
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>> Mark Roberts
>>
>> On Jul 14, 2009, at 10:16 AM, "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> pietflyr@bellsouth.net
>>> >
>>>
>>> I put the duct tape on the bottom, as a temporary experiment. 3 years
>>> later, it's still there.
>>>
>>> Jack
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
>>> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan
>>> Yocum
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 11:16 AM
>>> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>>> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: tail weight
>>>
>>>
>>> Jack,
>>>
>>> Jack Phillips wrote:
>>>
>>> I found it difficult to get the tail up on takeoff until I got up to 40
>>>> mph, so I added a strip of duct tape to seal the gap between the
>>>> stabilizer and elevators. Now I can raise the tail after I've travelled
>>>> about 100 feet. The gap seal also affected trim in level flight,
>>>> requiring more nose up trim than it used to. I could probably remove
>>>> those washers and take the incidence out and it would be just about
>>>> right.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Did you apply the duct tape to the top or the bottom of horizontal
>>> stabilizer?
>>>
>>> Boy, I'm really looking forward to taking a ton of pictures of all of
>>> your planes next week at Brodhead!
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Dan
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dan Yocum
>>> Fermilab 630.840.6509
>>> yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
>>> Fermilab. Just zeros and ones.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Subject: | For sale in Vancouver |
This turned up localy. I didn't even know of it's existance!
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