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1. 04:55 AM - EAA Homebuilt Review-- Featuring Pietenpol Air Campers (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation])
2. 05:11 AM - Re: For sale in Vancouver (Jeff Boatright)
3. 05:11 AM - Re: For sale in Vancouver (Bill Church)
4. 05:50 AM - for sale in Vancouver (Oscar Zuniga)
5. 06:04 AM - Re: EAA Homebuilt Review-- Featuring Pietenpol Air Campers (Pieti Lowell)
6. 06:09 AM - Re: For sale in Vancouver (TOM STINEMETZE)
7. 07:10 AM - Re: Re: EAA Homebuilt Review-- Featuring Pietenpol Air Campers (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation])
8. 07:11 AM - oshkosh arrival times (Richard Schreiber)
9. 08:39 AM - Airport Closure (jb.spiegel@us.schneider-electric.com)
10. 09:12 AM - Re: For sale in Vancouver (Ozarkflyer)
11. 09:16 AM - Re: tail weight (Dan Yocum)
12. 11:20 AM - N8031: SBP -> OSH Spot track (Dan Yocum)
13. 11:35 AM - Re: N8031: SBP -> OSH Spot track (Ben Charvet)
14. 12:48 PM - Re: tail weight (Gene & Tammy)
15. 01:43 PM - Re: N8031: SBP -> OSH Spot track (Jeff Boatright)
16. 02:20 PM - Re: tail weight (Dan Yocum)
17. 07:46 PM - Re: N8031: SBP -> OSH Spot track (Gene & Tammy)
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| Subject: | EAA Homebuilt Review-- Featuring Pietenpol Air Campers |
All-we have had a GREAT response for this Doc Mosher/EAA/Joe Norris request
to fly a variety of
Pietenpols powered by different engines during the Showcase event for Piete
npols on Wednesday
of the EAA convention.
We have yet to confirm a CORVAIR powered Pietenpol though. So far we hav
e: Continental, Ford, Rotec,
and Lambert powered Piets willing to participate. We may have two FORDS
even. We may toss in one
more token Continental powered Piet if we can't find a Corvair Piet availab
le to fly since they want about 5
planes in the fly-by pattern.
Thank you all for your offline responses !
Mike C. in Ohio
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| Subject: | Re: For sale in Vancouver |
$25,000???? Twenty-five THOUSAND dollars for a Piet fuselage, tail,
and ribs? I guess the economy really is picking up...
>
>This turned up localy. I didn't even know of it's existance!
>
>http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/for/1267766572.html
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Emory University School of Medicine
Editor-in-Chief
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| Subject: | For sale in Vancouver |
WOW!
A 60% complete Pietenpol airframe (looks like just the woodwork), with
no engine or undercarriage for only $25,000!!!
I assume that was a typo, and there's an extra zero added on to the end
of the price.
Do not archive
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Clif
Dawson
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 1:52 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: For sale in Vancouver
--> <CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca>
This turned up localy. I didn't even know of it's existance!
http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/for/1267766572.html
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| Subject: | for sale in Vancouver |
$25=2C000??? He's got to be kidding. Must be made from pieces of Noah's o
riginal ark or something.
Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC
San Antonio=2C TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: EAA Homebuilt Review-- Featuring Pietenpol Air Campers |
Mike, Could you use a fuel injected B Ford, in the line-up ? ?
Pieti Lowell
Mike C. in Ohio
> [b]
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=253111#253111
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| Subject: | Re: For sale in Vancouver |
$25,000 seems a bit steep for an unfinished 'Camper with no engine!
Stinemetze
>>> "Clif Dawson" <CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca> 7/15/2009 12:52 AM >>>
This turned up localy. I didn't even know of it's existance!
http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/for/1267766572.html
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| Subject: | Re: EAA Homebuilt Review-- Featuring Pietenpol Air |
Campers
Lowell--- Sounds good ! We'll coordinate with Doc Mosher and Joe Norris from
EAA
once we are on the ground at OSH.
Joe was worried we would not have any Fords-- now we might have more than he wants
but
you know-- better that way than not to have enough volunteers !
Mike Cuy
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| Subject: | oshkosh arrival times |
Does anyone know what the scheduled group arrival time is for Oshkosh on Sunday?
I plan on flying into Brodhead on Friday morning with my Tri Pacer. I will be leaving
at dawn on Sunday for RVY, Watertown WI, where I will link up with a 30
plane short wing piper group. We will then leave RVY for a planned 8:15 arrival
at Oshkosh. I would like to see the Pietenpol arrivals if I get there first.
I should have extra room. so if anyone needs stuff hauled to Oshkosh just let me
know.
Rick Schreiber
Valparaiso, IN
N5936D
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All,
not sure if this will effect anyone, but for those of you that will be
passing through the great state of Iowa, the Iowa City Airport will be
closed for the entire month of August for resurfacing. so don't plan on
stopping there for fuel on your return from Oshkosh.
Jake
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| Subject: | Re: For sale in Vancouver |
That's like your girlfriend telling you that she's a bit pregnant. [Shocked]
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=253153#253153
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catdesigns@att.net wrote:
>
> Hey Dan,
>
> Have you see tnis website?
>
> http://westcoastpiet.com/
>
> (I know shameless plug)
Hi Chris,
Yes. I am addicted to westcoastpiet. But, I can stop at any time.
Sure, sure, that's it, anytime <twitch, twitch>. *grin*
So, the current owner of N8031 pointed me to some recent picts of the
plane and I've discovered that there are some... oddities which I will
be looking at correcting over the years to come.
For instance, moving the wing back is not going to be straight forward
at all - the strut attach points aren't constructed like they are on,
say, Don Emch's Piet
(http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Don%20Emch/Brodhead__20070720_150.JPG).
Where Don has that insert bolted to the stut which can allow for some
pivoting back and forth, N8031's struts are welded and there's no
pivoting allowed (booo!). The diagonal cabanes are, again, welded to
the forward cabanes. Argh! I'll probably just buy pristine aerodynamic
tubing and build new struts. That's a project for the future.
And there are no gap seals on the horizontal/elevator and
vertical/rudder which doesn't help with the amount of down elevator
required to fly level. Gap seals are easy, as Jack has mentioned -
"temporary" duct tape should do the trick. That one's easy and I'll do
it right away.
All of these things are OK with me - the plane flies and that's what I'm
interested in right now.
I'll be looking at all of your planes next Friday to see how you
approached these solution.
See you then,
Dan
--
Dan Yocum
Fermilab 630.840.6509
yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
Fermilab. Just zeros and ones.
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| Subject: | N8031: SBP -> OSH Spot track |
This is somewhat off-topic, but I think it's pretty cool.
Tres Clements is flying his (soon-to-be mine) Pietenpol N8031 from San
Luis Obispo to OSH. He and a friend left yesterday and are winging
their way eastward. Here's the Spot track of the route they're taking:
http://share.findmespot.com/shared/faces/viewspots.jsp?glId=0XeQYjmJLJJpESJ4WgdjS2W9eSMQUx0Ql
Me, I'm just plain tickled pink to see it finally on it's way!
Cheers,
Dan
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Dan Yocum
Fermilab 630.840.6509
yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
Fermilab. Just zeros and ones.
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| Subject: | Re: N8031: SBP -> OSH Spot track |
I've really enjoyed my Spot. Looks like Tres if flying IFR, following
the interstate system.
Ben
Dan Yocum wrote:
>
> This is somewhat off-topic, but I think it's pretty cool.
>
> Tres Clements is flying his (soon-to-be mine) Pietenpol N8031 from San
> Luis Obispo to OSH. He and a friend left yesterday and are winging
> their way eastward. Here's the Spot track of the route they're taking:
>
> http://share.findmespot.com/shared/faces/viewspots.jsp?glId=0XeQYjmJLJJpESJ4WgdjS2W9eSMQUx0Ql
>
>
> Me, I'm just plain tickled pink to see it finally on it's way!
>
> Cheers,
> Dan
>
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Dan, to me a much nicer looking approach to gap seals is to use vinyl. The
type of vinyl used by sign shops to make signs out of. Many types of
colors.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Yocum" <yocum@fnal.gov>
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 11:07 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: tail weight
>
> catdesigns@att.net wrote:
>>
>> Hey Dan,
>>
>> Have you see tnis website?
>>
>> http://westcoastpiet.com/
>>
>> (I know shameless plug)
>
> Hi Chris,
>
> Yes. I am addicted to westcoastpiet. But, I can stop at any time.
> Sure, sure, that's it, anytime <twitch, twitch>. *grin*
>
> So, the current owner of N8031 pointed me to some recent picts of the
> plane and I've discovered that there are some... oddities which I will
> be looking at correcting over the years to come.
>
> For instance, moving the wing back is not going to be straight forward
> at all - the strut attach points aren't constructed like they are on,
> say, Don Emch's Piet
> (http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Don%20Emch/Brodhead__20070720_150.JPG).
> Where Don has that insert bolted to the stut which can allow for some
> pivoting back and forth, N8031's struts are welded and there's no
> pivoting allowed (booo!). The diagonal cabanes are, again, welded to
> the forward cabanes. Argh! I'll probably just buy pristine aerodynamic
> tubing and build new struts. That's a project for the future.
>
> And there are no gap seals on the horizontal/elevator and
> vertical/rudder which doesn't help with the amount of down elevator
> required to fly level. Gap seals are easy, as Jack has mentioned -
> "temporary" duct tape should do the trick. That one's easy and I'll do
> it right away.
>
> All of these things are OK with me - the plane flies and that's what I'm
> interested in right now.
>
> I'll be looking at all of your planes next Friday to see how you
> approached these solution.
>
> See you then,
> Dan
>
>
> --
> Dan Yocum
> Fermilab 630.840.6509
> yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
> Fermilab. Just zeros and ones.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: N8031: SBP -> OSH Spot track |
The Spot tracker shows them at Thermal right now. I am surprised that
they didn't land at Bermuda Dunes, instead. Unless they backtrack,
they won't be overflying US 10 through the mountains and then
throught the desert. Maybe they detoured to get a gander at the
Salton Sea?
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Gene & Tammy wrote:
> Dan, to me a much nicer looking approach to gap seals is to use vinyl.
> The type of vinyl used by sign shops to make signs out of. Many types
> of colors.
Oh, that's a great idea - I didn't even think about sign shops. They
probably have really wide tape, too.
I'm also a glider pilot (well, I'm putting that on hold when the Piet
arrives) and sealing all the gaps is one of the rituals of putting the
glass ships together. Of course, the gaps are quite a bit smaller on
gliders.
Thanks,
Dan
--
Dan Yocum
Fermilab 630.840.6509
yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
Fermilab. Just zeros and ones.
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| Subject: | Re: N8031: SBP -> OSH Spot track |
Dan, when you meet up with Tres would you ask him where he mounted his SPOT?
Thanks
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Yocum" <yocum@fnal.gov>
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 12:19 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: N8031: SBP -> OSH Spot track
>
> This is somewhat off-topic, but I think it's pretty cool.
>
> Tres Clements is flying his (soon-to-be mine) Pietenpol N8031 from San
> Luis Obispo to OSH. He and a friend left yesterday and are winging
> their way eastward. Here's the Spot track of the route they're taking:
>
> http://share.findmespot.com/shared/faces/viewspots.jsp?glId=0XeQYjmJLJJpESJ4WgdjS2W9eSMQUx0Ql
>
> Me, I'm just plain tickled pink to see it finally on it's way!
>
> Cheers,
> Dan
>
> --
> Dan Yocum
> Fermilab 630.840.6509
> yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
> Fermilab. Just zeros and ones.
>
>
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