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     1. 12:14 AM - Re: Re: For sale in Vancouver (Clif Dawson)
     2. 04:28 AM - Re: Talked with Bill Rewey regarding Pietenpols to Oshkosh (gcardinal)
     3. 05:14 AM - Re: N8031: SBP -> OSH Spot track (Dan Yocum)
     4. 07:12 AM - Re: Talked with Bill Rewey regarding Pietenpols to Oshkosh (Max Hegler)
     5. 08:19 AM - C37-OSH flight (shad bell)
     6. 08:19 AM - Contact Information (Jack T. Textor)
     7. 09:23 AM - camping (jb.spiegel@us.schneider-electric.com)
     8. 09:41 AM - Re: camping (John Hofmann)
     9. 09:41 AM - Re: camping (Ed G.)
    10. 10:11 AM - Re: camping (jb.spiegel@us.schneider-electric.com)
    11. 10:11 AM - Re: camping (jb.spiegel@us.schneider-electric.com)
    12. 10:24 AM - Re: Talked with Bill Rewey regarding Pietenpols to Oshkosh (Skip Gadd)
    13. 10:44 AM - Re: Talked with Bill Rewey regarding Pietenpols to Oshkosh (Richard Schreiber)
    14. 10:56 AM - Re: Talked with Bill Rewey regarding Pietenpols to Oshkosh (Dave Abramson)
    15. 11:10 AM - Re: camping (Al Hays)
    16. 11:12 AM - Big Piets (Lynn Knoll)
    17. 11:42 AM - randolf enamel and gasoline (Douwe Blumberg)
    18. 12:07 PM - Re: randolf enamel and gasoline (Don Emch)
    19. 12:56 PM - Re: Talked with Bill Rewey regarding Pietenpols to Oshkosh (gcardinal@comcast.net)
    20. 02:04 PM - Re: camping (Jack Phillips)
    21. 02:41 PM - Re: camping (Tim Willis)
    22. 03:09 PM - Re: camping (Rick Holland)
    23. 03:09 PM - Re: C37-OSH flight (gcardinal)
    24. 03:22 PM - Re: camping (Tim Willis)
    25. 06:14 PM - Re: Talked with Bill Rewey regarding Pietenpols to Oshkosh (Skip Gadd)
    26. 06:28 PM - Re: camping (K5YAC)
    27. 06:40 PM - Re: Re: camping (Jack Phillips)
    28. 06:52 PM - "camping" and spars (Gary Boothe)
    29. 07:11 PM - Blazing Saddles Camping clip (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation])
    30. 08:09 PM - Re: Re: camping (John Hofmann)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Re: For sale in Vancouver | 
      
      
      I thought you guys would get a kick out of that..
      I wonder what his conclusions will be when it
      still hasn't sold two months from now?
      
      Clif
      
      
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: For sale in Vancouver
      
      
      >
      > That's like your girlfriend telling you that she's a bit pregnant. 
      > [Shocked]
      >
      >
      > Read this topic online here:
      >
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=253153#253153
      >
      >
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Talked with Bill Rewey regarding Pietenpols to Oshkosh | 
      
      Dale Messner has offered to carry gas cans and meet us at Waupun.
      If you will need gas at Waupun you will need to provide your own fuel 
      container with fuel. Dale will depart Brodhead early Sunday morning 
      and is planning to be at Waupun at about 9:00am.
      
      Greg Cardinal
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation] 
        To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 2:30 PM
        Subject: Pietenpol-List: Talked with Bill Rewey regarding Pietenpols 
      to Oshkosh
      
      
        Here is the scoop if you intend to fly into Oshkosh. 
      
        You are encouraged to fly in with your own handheld radio if you 
      like-there is no requirement to meet up at Waupun to stage.      
      
        If you have a handheld radio USE IT.    Borrow one, bring one, just to 
      listen to the Fisk controllers, even if you're not the leader of a 
      gaggle
      
        Everyone should leave Brodhead with enough fuel to reach Oshkosh-there 
      is no fuel at Waupun. 
      
        Next-and this is HUGE.    The ASPHALT AT Waupun in NOT USEABLE 
      !!!!!!!!!    Only use the E-W Grass runway !!!!!!!!!    Do NOT USE THE 
      PAVEMENT. 
      
        There is no gas at Waupun.    Some may help meet you there with gas 
      but be advised there is no gas at Waupun. 
      
        Group leaders will get a clearance from the OSH tower via phone at 
      Waupun and then proceed via the normal Fisk approach. 
      
        The four or five ships behind the group leader SHOULD also have radios 
      to listen up-you don't need to say a word but it is advisable to listen 
      to what is going on. 
      
        Normally there is =BD mile in-trail spacing between Fisk airplanes 
      entering the Ripon corridor----if you're in a Piet gaggle the spacing is 
      MUCH CLOSER..not formation flying but say 100, 200 yards behind the guy 
      in front of you. 
      
        Bill said the gaggles will fly slightly offset from the RR tracks from 
      Ripon to Fisk so that faster traffic can pass you.    (this per the 
      Chief OSH tower controller that Bill has spoken to about this) 
      
        Whatever your leader does, you follow.   If cleared to 27, you follow 
      and land on 27.     You MUST read the NOTAM cover to cover !    
      
        You can obtain a NOTAM (they'll mail it to you) or print it out---Go 
      here:   http://www.airventure.org/flying/
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: N8031: SBP -> OSH Spot track | 
      
      
      
      Gene & Tammy wrote:
      > <zharvey@bentoncountycable.net>
      > 
      > Dan, when you meet up with Tres would you ask him where he mounted his 
      > SPOT?
      
      Will do!
      
      Dan
      
      
      -- 
      Dan Yocum
      Fermilab  630.840.6509
      yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
      Fermilab.  Just zeros and ones.
      
      
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| Subject:  | Talked with Bill Rewey regarding Pietenpols to  Oshkosh | 
      
      
      If there are more cans than Dale can handle=2C I will be driving my pickup 
      and have plenty of room to haul some cans.  I will be at Brodhead all day S
      aturday.Someday I will be flying!
      Take Care=2CMax
      
      From: gcardinal@comcast.net
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Talked with Bill Rewey regarding Pietenpols to
       Oshkosh
      
      
      Dale Messner has offered 
      to carry gas cans and meet us at Waupun.
      If you will need gas at 
      Waupun you will need to provide your own fuel container with fuel. Dale 
      will depart Brodhead early Sunday morning 
      and is planning to be at 
      Waupun at about 9:00am.
      
      Greg 
      Cardinal
      
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: 
        Cuy=2C 
        Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation] 
        To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com 
      
        Sent: Tuesday=2C July 14=2C 2009 2:30 
      PM
        Subject: Pietenpol-List: Talked with Bill 
        Rewey regarding Pietenpols to Oshkosh
      
      
         
        Here is the scoop if you intend to fly into Oshkosh. 
      
         
        You are encouraged to fly in with your own handheld radio if 
        you like=97there is no requirement to meet up at Waupun to 
        stage.      
         
        If you have a handheld radio USE IT.    
        Borrow one=2C bring one=2C just to listen to the Fisk controllers=2C even
       if you=92re 
        not the leader of a gaggle
         
        Everyone should leave Brodhead with enough fuel to reach 
        Oshkosh=97there is no fuel at Waupun. 
         
        Next=97and this is HUGE.    The ASPHALT AT 
        Waupun in NOT USEABLE !!!!!!!!!    Only use the E-W 
        Grass runway !!!!!!!!!    Do NOT USE THE PAVEMENT. 
      
         
        There is no gas at Waupun.    Some may help 
        meet you there with gas but be advised there is no gas at Waupun. 
      
         
        Group leaders will get a clearance from the OSH tower via 
        phone at Waupun and then proceed via the normal Fisk approach. 
         
        The four or five ships behind the group leader SHOULD also 
        have radios to listen up=97you don=92t need to say a word but it is advis
      able to 
        listen to what is going on. 
         
        Normally there is =BD mile in-trail spacing between Fisk 
        airplanes entering the Ripon corridor----if you=92re in a Piet gaggle the
      
        spacing is MUCH CLOSER=85.not formation flying but say 100=2C 200 yards b
      ehind the 
        guy in front of you. 
         
        Bill said the gaggles will fly slightly offset from the RR 
        tracks from Ripon to Fisk so that faster traffic can pass 
        you.    (this per the Chief OSH tower controller that Bill has 
        spoken to about this) 
         
        Whatever your leader does=2C you follow.   If 
        cleared to 27=2C you follow and land on 27.     You MUST 
        read the NOTAM cover to cover !    
         
        You can obtain a NOTAM (they=92ll mail it to you) or print it 
        out---Go here:   http://www.airventure.org/flying/
         
         
         
      href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matro
      nics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
      href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
      href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c
      
      
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      What time are we planning to arrive at Waupun?  About 100 sm if I remember correctly.
      I will probably stop at Dodge County to top off if there is no fuel at
      Waupun.  Dad might be able to haul some cans of fuel but I am not sure.  What
      time would he have to leave to reach Waupun in time for our arrival?  If we get
      clearance from the OSH tower controler, are we immune from the Green, and Rush
      Lake holding patterns?  We don't want any invounentary glider time enroute,
      due to fuel exaustion, and NX92GB has only about1.5 hr ful capacity with a 30
      min reserve.  Lastly wondering how many 75+ mph cruise piets are out there.
      I flew with a guy in a CH701 last week, and he clocked me at 76-84mph with my
      as indicator bouncing from 65-70 mph, so I guess it's off by 8-10mph.  
      
      Shad
      
      
            
      
      
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| Subject:  | Contact Information | 
      
      For anyone that may need to contact me while at Brodhead or OSH, my cell
      is 515-490-5177.
      
      Safe travels to all!
      
      Jack
      
      www.textors.com
      
      
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      Does anyone know, if there is electrical available, like for plugging in a 
      CPAP, when camping at Brodhead.   My nephew want's to come up on Friday 
      and camp over till saturday, and if I don't have my CPAP, no one in camp 
      will sleep.
      
      
      Jake
      
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      I have yet to hear anyone snore at Brodhead. Probably because I, and  
      my campmates fart too loudly to hear the snoring. Beware the blue  
      cloud. To paraphrase my friend Glenn Thomas, "I feel like I have a  
      lung up my a$$."
      
      do not archive.
      
      
      John Hofmann
      Vice-President, Information Technology
      The Rees Group, Inc.
      2810 Crossroads Drive, Ste 3800
      Madison, WI 53718
      Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
      Fax: 608.443.2474
      Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
      
      On Jul 16, 2009, at 11:15 AM, jb.spiegel@us.schneider-electric.com  
      wrote:
      
      >
      > Does anyone know, if there is electrical available, like for  
      > plugging in a CPAP, when camping at Brodhead.   My nephew want's to  
      > come up on Friday and camp over till saturday, and if I don't have  
      > my CPAP, no one in camp will sleep.
      >
      >
      > Jake
      >
      >
      
      
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      Okay...I'll bite    What's a CPAP?????     There is no electric at the camp
       sites. there are a couple of outlets across the feild at the shelter. I gu
      ess it all depends on what a CPAP is. 
      
      
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: camping
      From: jb.spiegel@us.schneider-electric.com
      
      
      Does anyone know=2C if there is electrical available=2C like for plugging i
      n a CPAP=2C when camping at Brodhead.   My nephew want's to come up on Frid
      ay and camp over till saturday=2C and if I don't have my CPAP=2C no one in 
      camp will sleep. 
      
      
      Jake 
      
      
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      It also doubles as air mask on those days when you want to take you piet 
      up looking like a jet fighter.
      
      
      jake
      
      do not archive
      
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      Continuous Positive Air Pressure,  It keeps me from stopping breathing in 
      my sleep.  One of the great side effects is it also pumps you full of air, 
      
      so that you have ammunition for the next day.
      
      jake
      do not archive
      
      
      "Ed G." <flyboy=5F120@hotmail.com> 
      Sent by: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      07/16/2009 11:35 AM
      Please respond to
      pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      
      
      To
      piet-list piet-list <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
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      Subject
      RE: Pietenpol-List: camping
      
      
      Okay...I'll bite    What's a CPAP?????     There is no electric at the 
      camp sites. there are a couple of outlets across the feild at the shelter. 
      
      I guess it all depends on what a CPAP is. 
      
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: camping
      From: jb.spiegel@us.schneider-electric.com
      
      
      Does anyone know, if there is electrical available, like for plugging in a 
      
      CPAP, when camping at Brodhead.   My nephew want's to come up on Friday 
      and camp over till saturday, and if I don't have my CPAP, no one in camp 
      will sleep. 
      
      
      Jake 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Talked with Bill Rewey regarding Pietenpols to Oshkosh | 
      
      Does anyone know if there is moonshine free fuel in the Brodhead area? If so I
      will bring fuel containers, if not I don't need them.
      Skip
      
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: gcardinal 
      Sent: 7/16/2009 7:31:32 AM 
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Talked with Bill Rewey regarding Pietenpols to Oshkosh
      
      
      Dale Messner has offered to carry gas cans and meet us at Waupun.
      If you will need gas at Waupun you will need to provide your own fuel container
      with fuel. Dale will depart Brodhead early Sunday morning 
      and is planning to be at Waupun at about 9:00am.
      
      Greg Cardinal
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Talked with Bill Rewey regarding Pietenpols to Oshkosh | 
      
      I'm stopping either at Poplar Grove or Beloit for fuel. For me coming from NW Indiana
      either one is on the way and close to Brodhead. I think Fuel at Beloit
      is around 3.62 and 3.80 at Poplar Grove. 
      
      Rick Schreiber
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Skip Gadd 
      Sent: 7/16/2009 12:28:19 PM 
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Talked with Bill Rewey regarding Pietenpols to Oshkosh
      
      
      Does anyone know if there is moonshine free fuel in the Brodhead area? If so I
      will bring fuel containers, if not I don't need them.
      Skip
      
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: gcardinal 
      Sent: 7/16/2009 7:31:32 AM 
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Talked with Bill Rewey regarding Pietenpols to Oshkosh
      
      
      Dale Messner has offered to carry gas cans and meet us at Waupun.
      If you will need gas at Waupun you will need to provide your own fuel container
      with fuel. Dale will depart Brodhead early Sunday morning 
      and is planning to be at Waupun at about 9:00am.
      
      Greg Cardinal
      
      
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| Subject:  | Talked with Bill Rewey regarding Pietenpols to Oshkosh | 
      
      $4.50 here in Ca.........
      
      do not archive
        -----Original Message-----
        From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Richard
      Schreiber
        Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 10:43 AM
        To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
        Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Talked with Bill Rewey regarding Pietenpols
      to Oshkosh
      
      
        I'm stopping either at Poplar Grove or Beloit for fuel. For me coming from
      NW Indiana either one is on the way and close to Brodhead. I think Fuel at
      Beloit is around 3.62 and 3.80 at Poplar Grove.
      
        Rick Schreiber
      
        ----- Original Message -----
          From: Skip Gadd
          To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
          Sent: 7/16/2009 12:28:19 PM
          Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Talked with Bill Rewey regarding Pietenpols
      to Oshkosh
      
      
          Does anyone know if there is moonshine free fuel in the Brodhead area?
      If so I will bring fuel containers, if not I don't need them.
          Skip
      
      
            ----- Original Message -----
            From: gcardinal
            To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
            Sent: 7/16/2009 7:31:32 AM
            Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Talked with Bill Rewey regarding
      Pietenpols to Oshkosh
      
      
            Dale Messner has offered to carry gas cans and meet us at Waupun.
            If you will need gas at Waupun you will need to provide your own fuel
      container with fuel. Dale will depart Brodhead early Sunday morning
            and is planning to be at Waupun at about 9:00am.
      
            Greg Cardinal
      
      
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      Jake,
      If the CPAP's wattage isn't too great, a power inverter to get 120V AC  
      
      from a 12V battery might do the trick.
      Wow, it's been about 40 years since I slept in barracks, so I kind of  
      
      forgot about all the snoring and flatulence to be expected camping  
      with so many folks.  Now I don't feel so bad that I'll be staying at  
      Ripon College 20 miles away.  Hopefully upwind!
      Al
      Do not archive.
      
      On Jul 16, 2009, at 1:03 PM, jb.spiegel@us.schneider-electric.com wrote:
      
      >
      > Continuous Positive Air Pressure,  It keeps me from stopping  
      > breathing in my sleep.  One of the great side effects is it also  
      > pumps you full of air, so that you have ammunition for the next day.
      >
      > jake
      > do not archive
      >
      >
      > "Ed G." <flyboy_120@hotmail.com>
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      > cc
      > Subject
      > RE: Pietenpol-List: camping
      >
      >
      > Okay...I'll bite    What's a CPAP?????     There is no electric at  
      > the camp sites. there are a couple of outlets across the feild at  
      > the shelter. I guess it all depends on what a CPAP is.
      >
      > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      > Subject: Pietenpol-List: camping
      > From: jb.spiegel@us.schneider-electric.com
      > Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 11:15:20 -0500
      >
      >
      > Does anyone know, if there is electrical available, like for  
      > plugging in a CPAP, when camping at Brodhead.   My nephew want's to  
      
      > come up on Friday and camp over till saturday, and if I don't have  
      > my CPAP, no one in camp will sleep.
      >
      >
      > Jake
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      Does anyone know If any (or all preferably) of the six (6) Big Piets 
      will be at Brodhead this year?
      
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| Subject:  | randolf enamel and gasoline | 
      
      
      Hey,
      
      I got a few drops of fuel (auto) on my freshly painted (5 days) sheet metal
      and it attacked the paint.  I used randolf enamel.  Should this be
      happening?  I thought it'd be fuel proof.  Does it need to cure longer?
      
      Douwe
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: randolf enamel and gasoline | 
      
      
      Douwe,
      
      My guess is you need a little longer cure time.  I drip auto fuel on my randolph
      enamel quite a bit.  After a while it starts to bug me enough and I rub some
      wax on it and it polishes back up.  It never attacks it, it just leaves a little
      stain.  I'll bet it needs about a month cure time though.
      
      Don Emch
      NX899DE
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=253389#253389
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Talked with Bill Rewey regarding Pietenpols to  Oshkosh | 
      
      
      http://www.molonyrealestate.com/Ethanol_Free_Gas_Stations_in_Wisconsin.html
      
      
      List is unverified. 
      
      
      Greg C. 
      
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Skip Gadd" <skipgadd@earthlink.net> 
      Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 12:24:09 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central 
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Talked with Bill Rewey regarding Pietenpols to
       Oshkosh 
      
      
      Does anyone know if there is moonshine free fuel in the Brodhead area? If s
      o I will bring fuel containers, if not I don't need them. 
      Skip 
      
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: gcardinal 
      Sent: 7/16/2009 7:31:32 AM 
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Talked with Bill Rewey regarding Pietenpols to
       Oshkosh 
      
      
      Dale Messner has offered to carry gas cans and meet us at Waupun. 
      If you will need gas at Waupun you will need to provide your own=C2-fuel 
      container with fuel. Dale will depart Brodhead early Sunday morning 
      and is planning to be at Waupun at about 9:00am. 
      
      Greg Cardinal 
      
      ==
      
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      What's a CPAP?  
      
      
      There are some electrical outlets in the pavilion - usually occupied with a
      couple dozen cellphone chargers
      
      
      Jack Phillips
      
      NX899JP
      
      
        _____  
      
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
      jb.spiegel@us.schneider-electric.com
      Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 12:15 PM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: camping
      
      
      Does anyone know, if there is electrical available, like for plugging in a
      CPAP, when camping at Brodhead.   My nephew want's to come up on Friday and
      camp over till saturday, and if I don't have my CPAP, no one in camp will
      sleep. 
      
      
      Jake 
      
      
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      Hard to believe, but here it is:
      
      "A CPAP (Continuous Positive Air Pressure) provides a constant flow of air into
      a mask system to open up the obstructed airway caused by Obstructive Sleep Apnea
      and other physical obstructions of the airway."
      
      I love this Piet site... why we all learn something new every day... now WTH to
      do with it.
      Tim in central TX
      do not achive, esp., really 
      
      -----Original Message----- 
      From: Jack Phillips 
      Sent: Jul 16, 2009 3:56 PM 
      Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: camping 
      
      
      Whats a CPAP?  
      
      There are some electrical outlets in the pavilion  usually occupied with a couple
      dozen cellphone chargers
      
      Jack Phillips
      NX899JP
      
      
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jb.spiegel@us.schneider-electric.com
      Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 12:15 PM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: camping
      
      
      Does anyone know, if there is electrical available, like for plugging in a CPAP,
      when camping at Brodhead.   My nephew want's to come up on Friday and camp over
      till saturday, and if I don't have my CPAP, no one in camp will sleep. 
      
      
      Jake   <span style=" -<span style=" font-size:10.0pt;color:black; Subscription,<span style=" font-size:10.0pt;color:black; more:http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List<span style=" font-size:10.0pt;color:black;="================<span style=; bsp: " font-size:10.0pt;color:black; Forums!http://forums.matronics.com<span style=" font-size:10.0pt;color:black;="================<span style=; bsp: " font-size:10.0pt;color:black; support!http://www.matronics.com/contribution 
      
      
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      Wow, maybe CPAP could be adapted to the bottom of a Piet wing along with
      vortex generators on top to create a STOL-Piet with a stall speed below 20
      knots! If we put one on the top of the wing it would need to be Continuous
      Reverse Air Pressure or CRAP.
      
      Rick
      
      On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 3:40 PM, Tim Willis <timothywillis@earthlink.net>wr
      ote:
      
      > timothywillis@earthlink.net>
      >
      > Hard to believe, but here it is:
      >
      > "A CPAP (Continuous Positive Air Pressure) provides a constant flow of ai
      r
      > into a mask system to open up the obstructed airway caused by Obstructive
      > Sleep Apnea and other physical obstructions of the airway."
      >
      > I love this Piet site... why we all learn something new every day... now
      > WTH to do with it.
      > Tim in central TX
      > do not achive, esp., really
      >
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: Jack Phillips
      > Sent: Jul 16, 2009 3:56 PM
      > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      > Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: camping
      >
      >
      > What=92s a CPAP?
      >
      > There are some electrical outlets in the pavilion ' usually occupied wi
      th a
      > couple dozen cellphone chargers
      >
      > Jack Phillips
      > NX899JP
      >
      >
      > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
      > owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
      > jb.spiegel@us.schneider-electric.com
      > Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 12:15 PM
      > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      > Subject: Pietenpol-List: camping
      >
      >
      > Does anyone know, if there is electrical available, like for plugging in 
      a
      > CPAP, when camping at Brodhead.   My nephew want's to come up on Friday a
      nd
      > camp over till saturday, and if I don't have my CPAP, no one in camp will
      > sleep.
      >
      >
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| Subject:  | Re: C37-OSH flight | 
      
      
      Waupun is 75 sm from Brodhead. We'll plan to arrive at Waupun around 9 - 
      9:30. Gaggles can depart when ready. If all goes smoothly we should be on 
      the ground in OSH between 11 - 12:00.
      
      Greg C.
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "shad bell" <aviatorbell@yahoo.com>
      Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 10:15 AM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: C37-OSH flight
      
      
      >
      >
      > What time are we planning to arrive at Waupun?  About 100 sm if I remember 
      > correctly.  I will probably stop at Dodge County to top off if there is no 
      > fuel at Waupun.  Dad might be able to haul some cans of fuel but I am not 
      > sure.  What time would he have to leave to reach Waupun in time for our 
      > arrival?  If we get clearance from the OSH tower controler, are we immune 
      > from the Green, and Rush Lake holding patterns?  We don't want any 
      > invounentary glider time enroute, due to fuel exaustion, and NX92GB has 
      > only about1.5 hr ful capacity with a 30 min reserve.  Lastly wondering how 
      > many 75+ mph cruise piets are out there.  I flew with a guy in a CH701 
      > last week, and he clocked me at 76-84mph with my as indicator bouncing 
      > from 65-70 mph, so I guess it's off by 8-10mph.
      >
      > Shad
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
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      By Jove, I think you've got it... you've got it....  Quick, patent it!
      do not archive
      
      -----Original Message----- 
      From: Rick Holland 
      Sent: Jul 16, 2009 5:07 PM 
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: camping 
      
      Wow, maybe CPAP could be adapted to the bottom of a Piet wing along with vortex
      generators on top to create a STOL-Piet with a stall speed below 20 knots! If
      we put one on the top of the wing it would need to be Continuous Reverse Air
      Pressure or CRAP.
      
      Rick
      
      
      On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 3:40 PM, Tim Willis <timothywillis@earthlink.net> wrote:
      
      
      Hard to believe, but here it is:
      
      "A CPAP (Continuous Positive Air Pressure) provides a constant flow of air into
      a mask system to open up the obstructed airway caused by Obstructive Sleep Apnea
      and other physical obstructions of the airway."
      
      I love this Piet site... why we all learn something new every day... now WTH to
      do with it.
      Tim in central TX
      do not achive, esp., really
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: Jack Phillips
      Sent: Jul 16, 2009 3:56 PM
      Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: camping
      
      
      Whats a CPAP?
      
      There are some electrical outlets in the pavilion  usually occupied with a couple
      dozen cellphone chargers
      
      Jack Phillips
      NX899JP
      
      
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jb.spiegel@us.schneider-electric.com
      Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 12:15 PM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: camping
      
      
      Does anyone know, if there is electrical available, like for plugging in a CPAP,
      when camping at Brodhead.   My nephew want's to come up on Friday and camp over
      till saturday, and if I don't have my CPAP, no one in camp will sleep.
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Talked with Bill Rewey regarding Pietenpols to  Oshkosh | 
      
      Thanks Greg.
      
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: 
      Sent: 7/16/2009 3:59:32 PM 
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Talked with Bill Rewey regarding Pietenpols to Oshkosh
      
      
      http://www.molonyrealestate.com/Ethanol_Free_Gas_Stations_in_Wisconsin.html
      
      List is unverified. 
      
      Greg C.
      
      
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "Skip Gadd" <skipgadd@earthlink.net>
      Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 12:24:09 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Talked with Bill Rewey regarding Pietenpols to Oshkosh
      
      
      Does anyone know if there is moonshine free fuel in the Brodhead area? If so I
      will bring fuel containers, if not I don't need them.
      Skip
      
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: gcardinal 
      Sent: 7/16/2009 7:31:32 AM 
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Talked with Bill Rewey regarding Pietenpols to Oshkosh
      
      
      Dale Messner has offered to carry gas cans and meet us at Waupun.
      If you will need gas at Waupun you will need to provide your own fuel container
      with fuel. Dale will depart Brodhead early Sunday morning 
      and is planning to be at Waupun at about 9:00am.
      
      Greg Cardinal
      
      
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      About fell off my chair laughing at this thread.  Can't wait to meet you guys next
      week.  
      
      For some reason I'm imagining something similar to the campfire scene in Blazing
      Saddles... "more beans Mr. Taggart?"  If half of the stories are true, we might
      ALL need a CPAP.
      
      --------
      Mark - working on wings
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=253425#253425
      
      
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      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6dm9rN6oTs
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of K5YAC
      Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 9:28 PM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: camping
      
      
      About fell off my chair laughing at this thread.  Can't wait to meet you
      guys next week.
      
      For some reason I'm imagining something similar to the campfire scene in
      Blazing Saddles... "more beans Mr. Taggart?"  If half of the stories are
      true, we might ALL need a CPAP.
      
      --------
      Mark - working on wings
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=253425#253425
      
      
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| Subject:  | "camping" and spars | 
      
      
      Guys,
      
      My buddy, Jim Boyer, is traveling by motorhome, enroute to Brodhead, with
      his lovely wife Arlene. I know Jim has his laptop and is monitoring this
      conversation. I just hope he's doesn't tell her EVERYTHING!!
      
      On a more constructive note, I'm patiently awaiting my spar material that is
      being delivered tonight by my local supplier. $248 for all! Vertical grain
      fir.
      
      Gary Boothe
      Cool, Ca.
      Pietenpol
      WW Corvair Conversion
      Tail done, Fuselage on gear
      (13 ribs down.)
      Do not archive
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
      Phillips
      Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 6:39 PM
      Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: camping
      
      <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
      
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6dm9rN6oTs
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of K5YAC
      Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 9:28 PM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: camping
      
      
      About fell off my chair laughing at this thread.  Can't wait to meet you
      guys next week.
      
      For some reason I'm imagining something similar to the campfire scene in
      Blazing Saddles... "more beans Mr. Taggart?"  If half of the stories are
      true, we might ALL need a CPAP.
      
      --------
      Mark - working on wings
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=253425#253425
      
      
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| Subject:  | Blazing Saddles Camping clip | 
      
      
      
      These things happen when men camp among men.    All pretenses of having even a
      modicum of class are completely
      tossed out the window.    Great video clip Jack.   Still wiping the tears from
      my eyes. 
      
      do not archive
      
      
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      This one made me cry. In some ways I am sorry I mentioned the  
      gassiness of Brodhead but mostly not. What can you expect when you put  
      a bunch of middle aged men together eating pork sausages, cheese and  
      good local suds.
      
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LAA9SK2sM4
      
      do not archive
      
      
      John Hofmann
      Vice-President, Information Technology
      The Rees Group, Inc.
      2810 Crossroads Drive, Ste 3800
      Madison, WI 53718
      Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
      Fax: 608.443.2474
      Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
      
      On Jul 16, 2009, at 8:39 PM, Jack Phillips wrote:
      
      > >
      >
      > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6dm9rN6oTs
      >
      >
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of K5YAC
      > Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 9:28 PM
      > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: camping
      >
      >
      > About fell off my chair laughing at this thread.  Can't wait to meet  
      > you
      > guys next week.
      >
      > For some reason I'm imagining something similar to the campfire  
      > scene in
      > Blazing Saddles... "more beans Mr. Taggart?"  If half of the stories  
      > are
      > true, we might ALL need a CPAP.
      >
      > --------
      > Mark - working on wings
      >
      >
      > Read this topic online here:
      >
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=253425#253425
      >
      >
      
      
 
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