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1. 04:20 AM - Re: Bell Corvair mk-4 ready for launch (Jack Phillips)
2. 05:05 AM - Re: Gone West, a Good Man (Tim Willis)
3. 05:10 AM - Re: Bell Corvair mk-4 ready for launch (Tim Willis)
4. 09:10 AM - Brodhead fuel (Dick N.)
5. 09:26 AM - Re: N8031: SBP -> OSH Spot track (Ryan Mueller)
6. 09:42 AM - Brodhead oil change? (Darrel Jones)
7. 10:24 AM - NX92GB, no longer AOG (shad bell)
8. 11:15 AM - Fw: Not Piet but Piet builder related (outofthebox50@yahoo.com)
9. 11:39 AM - Re: NX92GB, no longer AOG (Jack Phillips)
10. 11:39 AM - Re: Brodhead oil change? (Ryan Mueller)
11. 12:11 PM - Re: Fw: Not Piet but Piet builder related (Bill Church)
12. 12:12 PM - Re: NX92GB, no longer AOG (Ryan Mueller)
13. 12:17 PM - Re: Brodhead oil change? (Darrel Jones)
14. 01:03 PM - Re: Fw: Not Piet but Piet builder related (outofthebox50@yahoo.com)
15. 01:23 PM - Hie away to Brodhead (Lawrence Williams)
16. 02:03 PM - Re: Hie away to Brodhead (Andrew M Eldredge)
17. 02:29 PM - Re: Fw: Not Piet but Piet builder related (Mike Tunnicliffe)
18. 02:49 PM - Re: Fw: Not Piet but Piet builder related (Bill Church)
19. 03:51 PM - Brodhead 0-235 (carson)
20. 05:42 PM - Shut off Valve (Chet's Mail)
21. 06:00 PM - Re: Shut off Valve (skellytown flyer)
22. 06:08 PM - Re: Shut off Valve (Kip and Beth Gardner)
23. 06:09 PM - Re: Re: Shut off Valve (Michael Silvius)
24. 06:46 PM - possibly driving to Brodhead, pets ok? (Billy McCaskill)
25. 06:52 PM - Re: possibly driving to Brodhead, pets ok? (Jack Phillips)
26. 07:42 PM - OSH Meet (ALAN LYSCARS)
27. 08:24 PM - Re: possibly driving to Brodhead, pets ok? (Ryan Mueller)
28. 08:24 PM - Re: OSH Meet (gcardinal)
29. 11:38 PM - Re: possibly driving to Brodhead, pets ok? (Billy McCaskill)
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| Subject: | Bell Corvair mk-4 ready for launch |
Way to go Shad! Nothing like perseverence. I look forward to seeing you at
Brodhead next week.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of shad bell
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 1:18 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Bell Corvair mk-4 ready for launch
Holy moley!! Finnaly, got the engine back togeather, after 6 days of on and
off, hair pulling nail bitting, beer drinking, what now? work!! Dad left
about 9 pm tonight and I stayed up for 3 more hrs working on getting her
done. I got the prop hub to runout to .003", and the prop to track at
.005". I was this close>< to pulling it out at midnight to run it and check
for vibration, but the neighbors lights were already out. I will get up at
8am and go out and test run, check for problems, and test fly to a local
pankake breakfast at DLZ, where Dad is working (He doesn't know I
got'er'done what a supprize he has in store!) BRODHEAD HERE COME THE BELL
BOYS!
Fly smart and land safe,
Shad
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| Subject: | Re: Gone West, a Good Man |
Shad,
I am sorry to hear of your good friend passing, and especially in such a way, doing
something he loved.
If you feel comfortable sharing any details, we likely could learn something from
the accident.
Tim in central TX
do not archive
-----Original Message-----
>From: shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com>
>Sent: Jul 17, 2009 10:28 PM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Gone West, a Good Man
>
>
>
>Fellow Airman, Raise your glass to a dearly departed fellow aviator, who left
us before his time. I am sad to say I lost a friend to an aircraft accident here
at Chapman Field tues night. Larry Eberst who Dad and I shared a hanger and
some good times with, passed away July 14 2009 around 8pm. Keep him and his
family in your prayers. He leaves behind 2 sons and a wife, and many dear friends.
Larry gave me a ride in his RV-4 when I was an 18 year old, student piolt,
worked the ramp with Dad and I at many a fly-in, and will most definetly
be missed by all who ever met him. Larry here's to you, That you may reach up
and touch the face of God, and slip the surly bonds of earth.
>
>Sincerly,
>Shad
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Bell Corvair mk-4 ready for launch |
Shad,
You and Gary have learned more about Corvairs than you planned, and perhaps more
than anyone should have to. I recall your 2007-08 travails, and also your fine
showing at Brodhead 2008.
I have missed out on what the issue has been in this instance-- is this a new engine,
or tinkering your old one? In any case, is it related to bearings, alignment,
or vibration-- what?
Good flying to WI!
Thanks,
Tim in central TX
-----Original Message-----
>From: shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com>
>Sent: Jul 18, 2009 1:17 AM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Bell Corvair mk-4 ready for launch
>
>
>
>Holy moley!! Finnaly, got the engine back togeather, after 6 days of on and off,
hair pulling nail bitting, beer drinking, what now? work!! Dad left about
9 pm tonight and I stayed up for 3 more hrs working on getting her done. I got
the prop hub to runout to .003", and the prop to track at .005". I was this
close>< to pulling it out at midnight to run it and check for vibration, but
the neighbors lights were already out. I will get up at 8am and go out and test
run, check for problems, and test fly to a local pankake breakfast at DLZ,
where Dad is working (He doesn't know I got'er'done what a supprize he has in
store!) BRODHEAD HERE COME THE BELL BOYS!
>
>Fly smart and land safe,
>Shad
>
>
>
>
>
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I received another call from Brodhead. The fuel pumps still haven't
been inspected, so no fuel this year.
For those coming from the south, who haven't been watching the weather
around here, bring a jacket and or sweatshirt.
Dick N.
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| Subject: | Re: N8031: SBP -> OSH Spot track |
Dan,
By any chance are you going to be basing your new Piet at Olson Airport?
Ryan
do not archive
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Dan Yocum <yocum@fnal.gov> wrote:
>
> This is somewhat off-topic, but I think it's pretty cool.
>
> Tres Clements is flying his (soon-to-be mine) Pietenpol N8031 from San Luis
> Obispo to OSH. He and a friend left yesterday and are winging their way
> eastward. Here's the Spot track of the route they're taking:
>
>
> http://share.findmespot.com/shared/faces/viewspots.jsp?glId=0XeQYjmJLJJpESJ4WgdjS2W9eSMQUx0Ql
>
> Me, I'm just plain tickled pink to see it finally on it's way!
>
> Cheers,
> Dan
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| Subject: | Brodhead oil change? |
I will be flying in from California after replacing a cylinder on the
Stinson and would like to change the oil and wash the airplane while at
Brodhead and before flying to Oshkosh. Will I be able to buy 8 quarts of
15-50 Aeroshell at the field and does someone have a drain pan and space
for me to get this done?
I may have to wait until I retire to fly the Pfeifer Sport out since ti
may take more than three days each way. Hopefully that won't be too
long. Maybe we can get a whole west coast gaggle going and terrorize
everyone along the route by flying at our service ceiling of 500' AGL.
Leaving Sonoma on Monday and hoping to make Brodhead by Wednesday
evening or Thursday morning.
See you there. I'm also hoping to get some Pietenpol time while there.
Darrel Jones
Sonoma, CA
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| Subject: | NX92GB, no longer AOG |
Well we were down for a week, but it's all done now. The flywheel cracked, and
we repaced it with a different, heavier duty flywheel, which happens to have
a different offset to the ring gear (not as dished in as the old one), so we had
to do some minor mods to make it work, which was basicaly shimming the alternator,
and starter forward 1/4 inch. My friends father in law has a machine
shop so he turned down the "shoulder" of the prop hub for a whopping $20, and
did it on very short notice, and drove it to my hanger 2 hrs later. So we just
had to make a few pieces of metal into the shapes they had to be, sprayed some
chevy orange engine paint, put it togeather, and pick up the empty beer bottles,
and abra cadabra presto chango ala kazam! I was able to fly over to the
pankake breakfast and supprize Dad, now we just have to clean all the bugs off,
so we can catch the new ones enroute to Brodhead.
Shad
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| Subject: | Fw: Not Piet but Piet builder related |
------Original Message------
Subject: Not Piet but Piet builder related
Sent: Jul 18, 2009 1:05 PM
I started building the brakes for my Affordaplane and sent pics to my dad and he
decided that I needed to build a set for him as well. His Rans came with go
cart drum brakes, very similar to what I've seen on many Piets. On the Rans,
they sucked at best. Even after replacing the shoes and drums they would lock
up or squeal wickedly. I replaced them last night with Avid BB7 disk brakes
from a mountain bike. They are cable activated. I had to machine some rather
large brake hubs to space the rotor out far enough to let the caliper clear
the tires. I replaced the old backing plate with an .090 4130 caliper bracket.
We flew them last night and they were great. They held good during normal
preflight run up. They were nice and smooth and progressive while turning and
taxiing. We could lock the tires up in the grass. I did a couple of my best
touch and goes at Ennis. While on the hard runway I clamped them down pretty
hard at 30mph and they had lots of stopping power.
The whole system with hubs, rotors, calipers, and cables weighed less than 4lbs.
I already have motorcycle disk brakes for the Piet, but wonder if I shouldn't
get another set of Avid brakes to reduce weight.
Anyways, just an option for those that haven't bought brakes yet.
Jeremy in Dallas
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
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| Subject: | NX92GB, no longer AOG |
Good going, Shad.
You've earned a good trip to Brodhead this year. I'll see you there.
Jack
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of shad bell
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 1:18 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: NX92GB, no longer AOG
Well we were down for a week, but it's all done now. The flywheel cracked,
and we repaced it with a different, heavier duty flywheel, which happens to
have a different offset to the ring gear (not as dished in as the old one),
so we had to do some minor mods to make it work, which was basicaly shimming
the alternator, and starter forward 1/4 inch. My friends father in law has
a machine shop so he turned down the "shoulder" of the prop hub for a
whopping $20, and did it on very short notice, and drove it to my hanger 2
hrs later. So we just had to make a few pieces of metal into the shapes
they had to be, sprayed some chevy orange engine paint, put it togeather,
and pick up the empty beer bottles, and abra cadabra presto chango ala
kazam! I was able to fly over to the pankake breakfast and supprize Dad,
now we just have to clean all the bugs off, so we can catch the new ones
enroute to Brodhead.
Shad
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| Subject: | Re: Brodhead oil change? |
Darrel,
There's no FBO at Brodhead, so you'd be hoping to find someone that happens
to have 8 quarts of Aeroshell 15/50 to sell you. I'm not involved up there
in any way, so maybe someone local can say for sure whether or not you could
get some space to do an oil change. I would think so, but that's just
speculation on my part.
As far as getting oil, Poplar Grove Airport (C77) would be a place to pick
some up, along with fuel. They have a wash area near the maintenance hangar
where you could wash the plane; I wouldn't think they would object to that,
since you would have bought oil/fuel. I don't know if they would let you
borrow the equipment to change your oil and let you do it there. I would
think they would prefer you pay the shop to do it. But it might be worth a
phone call to ask. The flight office is 815-544-3471. Couldn't hurt to
explain your situation and see what they say.
Worst case, if a stop at Poplar Grove is not on your itinerary, we'll be
coming through Belvidere on Wednesday (the Poplar Grove Airport is just
north of town) and can pick up 8 qts of oil for you. Their price is
currently $5.68 per quart. We'll be coming out to the Brodhead Airport on
Thursday morning. Just let us know if you want us to snag some.
Have a safe flight!
Ryan
On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Darrel Jones <wd6bor@vom.com> wrote:
>
> I will be flying in from California after replacing a cylinder on the
> Stinson and would like to change the oil and wash the airplane while at
> Brodhead and before flying to Oshkosh. Will I be able to buy 8 quarts of
> 15-50 Aeroshell at the field and does someone have a drain pan and space for
> me to get this done?
>
> I may have to wait until I retire to fly the Pfeifer Sport out since ti may
> take more than three days each way. Hopefully that won't be too long. Maybe
> we can get a whole west coast gaggle going and terrorize everyone along the
> route by flying at our service ceiling of 500' AGL.
>
> Leaving Sonoma on Monday and hoping to make Brodhead by Wednesday evening
> or Thursday morning.
>
> See you there. I'm also hoping to get some Pietenpol time while there.
>
> Darrel Jones
> Sonoma, CA
>
>
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| Subject: | Fw: Not Piet but Piet builder related |
I would be doubtful that a brake designed for a bicycle would have the
stopping power required for a full-sized aircraft.
If you figure the typical adult mountainbike rider to be about 200
pounds, plus the weight of the bike, and allowing for stopping power of
say 2 G's, the brakes would need about 500 pounds of stopping power. The
average Piet is going to weigh in around 1200 pounds (twice what the
Affordaplane weighs in at), so it's going to have a whole lot more
momentum for the brakes to deal with than what it's designed for. Also,
there's the issue of how they will stand up to repeated use. Maybe they
worked all right when you tried them last night, but how will they
perform a couple months from now? Or a year? Maybe okay, maybe not ...
Time will tell.
On the other hand, maybe the brakes are way over-sized for use on bikes,
and can do the job on a Piet. Would be a really nice, light-weight
option if they can do the job.
Bill C.
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| Subject: | Re: NX92GB, no longer AOG |
Congratulations Shad! Have a safe trip over/up.
Ryan
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On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 12:17 PM, shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Well we were down for a week, but it's all done now. The flywheel cracked,
> and we repaced it with a different, heavier duty flywheel, which happens to
> have a different offset to the ring gear (not as dished in as the old one),
> so we had to do some minor mods to make it work, which was basicaly shimming
> the alternator, and starter forward 1/4 inch. My friends father in law has
> a machine shop so he turned down the "shoulder" of the prop hub for a
> whopping $20, and did it on very short notice, and drove it to my hanger 2
> hrs later. So we just had to make a few pieces of metal into the shapes
> they had to be, sprayed some chevy orange engine paint, put it togeather,
> and pick up the empty beer bottles, and abra cadabra presto chango ala
> kazam! I was able to fly over to the pankake breakfast and supprize Dad,
> now we just have to clean all the bugs off, so we can catch the new ones
> enroute to Brodhead.
>
> Shad
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Brodhead oil change? |
Ryan,
Thanks for the offer. With the fuel pumps down at Brodhead I'll stop at
Poplar Grove and re-fuel and buy the oil. I think I would rather get
camp set up at Brodhead first then wash the plane and change the oil. I
know a couple people at Brodhead but haven't talked to them to see if
they will be there for the Pietenpol weekend.
See you there!
Darrel
Ryan Mueller wrote:
> Darrel,
>
> There's no FBO at Brodhead, so you'd be hoping to find someone that
> happens to have 8 quarts of Aeroshell 15/50 to sell you. I'm not
> involved up there in any way, so maybe someone local can say for sure
> whether or not you could get some space to do an oil change. I would
> think so, but that's just speculation on my part.
>
> As far as getting oil, Poplar Grove Airport (C77) would be a place to
> pick some up, along with fuel. They have a wash area near the
> maintenance hangar where you could wash the plane; I wouldn't think
> they would object to that, since you would have bought oil/fuel. I
> don't know if they would let you borrow the equipment to change your
> oil and let you do it there. I would think they would prefer you pay
> the shop to do it. But it might be worth a phone call to ask. The
> flight office is 815-544-3471. Couldn't hurt to explain your situation
> and see what they say.
>
> Worst case, if a stop at Poplar Grove is not on your itinerary, we'll
> be coming through Belvidere on Wednesday (the Poplar Grove Airport is
> just north of town) and can pick up 8 qts of oil for you. Their price
> is currently $5.68 per quart. We'll be coming out to the Brodhead
> Airport on Thursday morning. Just let us know if you want us to snag some.
>
> Have a safe flight!
>
> Ryan
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| Subject: | Re: Fw: Not Piet but Piet builder related |
Dad's Rans that we tried the brakes on last night is 1200lbs gross. We were probably
100lbs under that with 1/3 tanks of fuel and had more than enough stopping
power. I tried them on a mountain bike and they could easily throw me over
the bars at 180lbs. On a bike mostly the front brake does most of the work.
On a plane they share duty. I have to admit, I was shaking in my boots when
we taxied out last night and felt a sigh of relief when the actually worked.
Jeremy
------Original Message------
From: Bill Church
Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
ReplyTo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Fw: Not Piet but Piet builder related
Sent: Jul 18, 2009 2:01 PM
I would be doubtful that a brake designed for a bicycle would have the
stopping power required for a full-sized aircraft.
If you figure the typical adult mountainbike rider to be about 200
pounds, plus the weight of the bike, and allowing for stopping power of
say 2 G's, the brakes would need about 500 pounds of stopping power. The
average Piet is going to weigh in around 1200 pounds (twice what the
Affordaplane weighs in at), so it's going to have a whole lot more
momentum for the brakes to deal with than what it's designed for. Also,
there's the issue of how they will stand up to repeated use. Maybe they
worked all right when you tried them last night, but how will they
perform a couple months from now? Or a year? Maybe okay, maybe not ...
Time will tell.
On the other hand, maybe the brakes are way over-sized for use on bikes,
and can do the job on a Piet. Would be a really nice, light-weight
option if they can do the job.
Bill C.
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
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| Subject: | Hie away to Brodhead |
Well......I left my hangar in AR Thursday early and now it's Saturday after
noon. I have been hammered by headwinds and turbulence for two solid days.
My ground speed has been about 47 mph which makes for a LOT more fuel stops
than planned and the buffeting from the winds really makes for long days e
ven though the flight hours are few. Ya' gotta be really, really flexible w
ith your schedule when you fly XC in a Piet.
-
The old Ford doesn't know the difference as it slobbers oil everywhere and
keeps the prop spinning steadily at 1850. Bless it's little 80 year old hea
rt.
-
As is typical, I have been met by true Americans and had some-great tales
told to me by- ag pilots who are pretty much grounded wherever I go by t
he winds and cold (63 degrees this morning in W. KY).
-
I am spending the night in an ag pilot's office in Vincinnes, IL. Great guy
and very hospitable. He even insisted I take his brand new Ford F-350 for
the night.....like I have anywhere to go. But, the Piet has a hangar and I
have a warm place to put my air mattress. It just doesn't get any better. I
hope he doesn't mind me using his computer for this!
-
Tomorrow (or Monday) I'll try to make it to my rendezvous point to meet up
with-Frank Pavliga and Andrew King-and a few other "aeroplane" types fo
r some fun prior to turning back to the northwest and Brodhead on Thursday.
.......or Friday.
-
I can almost visualize all the little Piets being drawn to Brodhead form-
every direction like moths to a light. See ya' there!
-
Larry W- xcg, xcmr, epp=0A=0A=0A
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| Subject: | Re: Hie away to Brodhead |
Larry,
You paint a fantastic picture with your words. It put me right back in the
pit over central Utah doing 35mph over the ground being bumped around and
getting airsick. Fortunately the wind was right down the runway at
Richfield (RIF). If I remember correctly, I didn't need any throttle to
back-taxi to the tiedown, and I was glad when the gentleman operating the
place held the strut so I could get out.
One of these day's I'll finish writing the full illustrated account. In the
meantime, If things go my way, I'll have the undercarriage back in place
before the weekend's building window has expired.
Andrew
On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Lawrence Williams <lnawms@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Well......I left my hangar in AR Thursday early and now it's Saturday
> afternoon. I have been hammered by headwinds and turbulence for two solid
> days. My ground speed has been about 47 mph which makes for a LOT more fuel
> stops than planned and the buffeting from the winds really makes for long
> days even though the flight hours are few. Ya' gotta be really, really
> flexible with your schedule when you fly XC in a Piet.
>
> The old Ford doesn't know the difference as it slobbers oil everywhere and
> keeps the prop spinning steadily at 1850. Bless it's little 80 year old
> heart.
>
> As is typical, I have been met by true Americans and had some great tales
> told to me by ag pilots who are pretty much grounded wherever I go by the
> winds and cold (63 degrees this morning in W. KY).
>
> I am spending the night in an ag pilot's office in Vincinnes, IL. Great guy
> and very hospitable. He even insisted I take his brand new Ford F-350 for
> the night.....like I have anywhere to go. But, the Piet has a hangar and I
> have a warm place to put my air mattress. It just doesn't get any better. I
> hope he doesn't mind me using his computer for this!
>
> Tomorrow (or Monday) I'll try to make it to my rendezvous point to meet up
> with Frank Pavliga and Andrew King and a few other "aeroplane" types for
> some fun prior to turning back to the northwest and Brodhead on
> Thursday.......or Friday.
>
> I can almost visualize all the little Piets being drawn to Brodhead
> form every direction like moths to a light. See ya' there!
>
> Larry W xcg, xcmr, epp
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
--
Andrew M. Eldredge
Sahuarita, AZ
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| Subject: | Re: Fw: Not Piet but Piet builder related |
The New Zealand made Bantam Microlight aircraft (about 1000 pounds gross)
uses pushbike disc brakes and they are more than adequate. Better than the
Azuza drums on my Jodel.
Regards Mike T.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Church" <eng@canadianrogers.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 7:01 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Fw: Not Piet but Piet builder related
> <eng@canadianrogers.com>
>
>
> I would be doubtful that a brake designed for a bicycle would have the
> stopping power required for a full-sized aircraft.
> If you figure the typical adult mountainbike rider to be about 200
> pounds, plus the weight of the bike, and allowing for stopping power of
> say 2 G's, the brakes would need about 500 pounds of stopping power. The
> average Piet is going to weigh in around 1200 pounds (twice what the
> Affordaplane weighs in at), so it's going to have a whole lot more
> momentum for the brakes to deal with than what it's designed for. Also,
> there's the issue of how they will stand up to repeated use. Maybe they
> worked all right when you tried them last night, but how will they
> perform a couple months from now? Or a year? Maybe okay, maybe not ...
> Time will tell.
> On the other hand, maybe the brakes are way over-sized for use on bikes,
> and can do the job on a Piet. Would be a really nice, light-weight
> option if they can do the job.
>
> Bill C.
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Fw: Not Piet but Piet builder related |
Of course, the diameter of the wheels on the aircraft will make a huge
difference. If small diameter wheels are used, the effectiveness of the
brakes will be much higher. However, if one is building a traditional
Pietenpol (with either large, spoked motorcycle-type wheels or large
diameter air wheels) the required braking force will be pretty high, and
bicycle brakes will not likely be up to the task. But if a Piet is
equipped with small wheels, the brakes may be sufficient - but the plane
will be UGLY (in my biased opinion).
Bill C.
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Hi all
Hopefully everyone hasn't left yet
But if there happens to be an 0-235 powered Peit there could some one kindly get
some info on the engine mount measurements pictures etc?
Hope you all have a great time and hope to see you there next year.
Carson
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Does any one know of a source for a inlive brass body plug fuel shut off
vave. I've checked aircraft spruce and wicks, they have the three and
four but no two or inline.
Don Hicks piet now has it's 40 hour restriction flown off, YEA.
Chet Hartley
N920Y
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| Subject: | Re: Shut off Valve |
mine is a typical brass body ball valve with nylon seats.could be found at about
any pipe supply or hardware store.seems to work fine in test.haven't got to
fly it yet but soon.I think it is a better option than a plug valve.( and by the
way I used the teflon paste sealer in a tube from the auto parts store-seems
to hold perfectly so far with 100 L.L.)I mounted it crossways under the tank
outlet and made an extension rod handle to bring it back under the front panel
so it can be operated without reaching clear down under the tank. Raymond
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| Subject: | Re: Shut off Valve |
If I correctly understand what you are asking for, you can use the
ones available in the plumbing section at your favorite big-box home
store. There was an active discussion on the list about these 4-5
years ago, and the conclusion was that they are the same valve that
A.S.S. sold at the time for about 1/8 the cost. I believe there are
several out there flying on Piets now.
Kip Gardner
On Jul 18, 2009, at 8:39 PM, Chet's Mail wrote:
> Does any one know of a source for a inlive brass body plug fuel
> shut off vave. I've checked aircraft spruce and wicks, they have
> the three and four but no two or inline.
>
> Don Hicks piet now has it's 40 hour restriction flown off, YEA.
>
> Chet Hartley
> N920Y
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Shut off Valve |
And it will be the same thing that ACS sells you but at ACE hardware it will
cost you half as much.
Michael in Maine
----- Original Message -----
From: "skellytown flyer" <rhano@att.net>
>
> mine is a typical brass body ball valve with nylon seats.could be found at
about any pipe supply or hardware store.seems to work fine in test.haven't
got to fly it yet but soon.I think it is a better option than a plug
valve.( and by the way I used the teflon paste sealer in a tube from the
auto parts store-seems to hold perfectly so far with 100 L.L.)I mounted it
crossways under the tank outlet and made an extension rod handle to bring it
back under the front panel so it can be operated without reaching clear down
under the tank. Raymond
>
>
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| Subject: | possibly driving to Brodhead, pets ok? |
It looks like my schedule just might work out for me to make my very first trip
to Brodhead this year. My wife and possibly our daughter will be tagging along,
and bringing camping gear to stay overnight Friday and leaving Saturday afternoon.
The big question, is it ok to bring along our 11 year old family dog?
He doesn't bite, will be kept on a leash at all times and we will clean up
after him. Is there anybody who would object to a dog on the field? I suppose
if we had to we could find somebody to watch him here at the house while we
are there, but we'd really prefer to bring him along.
I'm usually just lurking in the background here on the list 99% of the time, but
I'm really looking forward to putting faces with names, and seeing all the great
craftsmanship in person that I've only seen in photos on the list... I'll
definitely have my camera with me, and a notepad to make notes on things that
catch my attention.
Billy McCaskill
tail feathers done, needing to obtain more wood
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| Subject: | possibly driving to Brodhead, pets ok? |
They let spamcans land there (I flew an RV-4 in there a couple of years ago)
- I would think a dog would be less objectionable.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Hoping the weather is going to be better than forecast, or dogs on the field
will be the least of our problems
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Billy
McCaskill
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 9:45 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: possibly driving to Brodhead, pets ok?
It looks like my schedule just might work out for me to make my very first
trip to Brodhead this year. My wife and possibly our daughter will be
tagging along, and bringing camping gear to stay overnight Friday and
leaving Saturday afternoon. The big question, is it ok to bring along our
11 year old family dog? He doesn't bite, will be kept on a leash at all
times and we will clean up after him. Is there anybody who would object to
a dog on the field? I suppose if we had to we could find somebody to watch
him here at the house while we are there, but we'd really prefer to bring
him along.
I'm usually just lurking in the background here on the list 99% of the time,
but I'm really looking forward to putting faces with names, and seeing all
the great craftsmanship in person that I've only seen in photos on the
list... I'll definitely have my camera with me, and a notepad to make notes
on things that catch my attention.
Billy McCaskill
tail feathers done, needing to obtain more wood
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Gents:
Sorry if I missed an earlier thread.
I'll be at Airventure Tuesday and Wednesday July 28 & 29. I'm flying
Southwest via Midway and car rental for the final nine yards.
Will you guys be meeting anywhere at Whitman during those two days? I'd
surly like to stick out my paw, say "hi", and try out a few of my new
lines of aviator's lies and bullshit.
Looking forward to returning to Mecca after five years in Purgatory!
Al Lyscars
Manchester, NH
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| Subject: | Re: possibly driving to Brodhead, pets ok? |
Billy,
The Midwest Antique Airplane Club fly-in is at Brodhead every September.
Here is the pet policy listed in the newsletter from last August, which
contained all the info for the fly-in:
"Pet policy states that pets must be on a leash and must not be left
unattended. Pets are not permitted in the food area."
It does not explicitly state whether that is an airport or MAAC policy, but
I would think it would be safe to assume it would apply for most fly-ins at
Brodhead.
Ryan
On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 8:44 PM, Billy McCaskill <billmz@cox.net> wrote:
>
> It looks like my schedule just might work out for me to make my very first
> trip to Brodhead this year. My wife and possibly our daughter will be
> tagging along, and bringing camping gear to stay overnight Friday and
> leaving Saturday afternoon. The big question, is it ok to bring along our
> 11 year old family dog? He doesn't bite, will be kept on a leash at all
> times and we will clean up after him. Is there anybody who would object to
> a dog on the field? I suppose if we had to we could find somebody to watch
> him here at the house while we are there, but we'd really prefer to bring
> him along.
>
> I'm usually just lurking in the background here on the list 99% of the
> time, but I'm really looking forward to putting faces with names, and seeing
> all the great craftsmanship in person that I've only seen in photos on the
> list... I'll definitely have my camera with me, and a notepad to make notes
> on things that catch my attention.
>
> Billy McCaskill
> tail feathers done, needing to obtain more wood
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=253676#253676
>
>
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Go to the brown arch at the main entrance to the flightline. That is
where we will be parked.
Wear a nametag and don't be shy about introducing yourself.
Greg Cardinal
----- Original Message -----
From: ALAN LYSCARS
To: Piet List
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 9:41 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: OSH Meet
Gents:
Sorry if I missed an earlier thread.
I'll be at Airventure Tuesday and Wednesday July 28 & 29. I'm flying
Southwest via Midway and car rental for the final nine yards.
Will you guys be meeting anywhere at Whitman during those two days?
I'd surly like to stick out my paw, say "hi", and try out a few of my
new lines of aviator's lies and bullshit.
Looking forward to returning to Mecca after five years in Purgatory!
Al Lyscars
Manchester, NH
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| Subject: | Re: possibly driving to Brodhead, pets ok? |
Thanks for the replies. Sounds like it should be ok to bring the dog along. I
will instruct him not to go around bothering people or begging for rides in Piets,
although I might be doing just that myself. :)
Jack, is it ok if I let the dog pee on the tires of those mangy stray RV's that
might show up? 8)
Billy McCaskill
Urbana, IL / Baton Rouge, LA
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