Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Mon 07/20/09


Total Messages Posted: 35



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     1. 03:57 AM - Re: Finally, work space! (helspersew@aol.com)
     2. 04:22 AM - Re: Finally, work space! (Jack Phillips)
     3. 05:40 AM - On my way (amsafetyc@aol.com)
     4. 06:11 AM - Jim Markle's Piet (Oscar Zuniga)
     5. 06:11 AM - Re: Finally, work space! (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation])
     6. 06:12 AM - Re: opinions on ebay motorcycle wheels? (Gary Boothe)
     7. 06:43 AM - Re: Jim Markle's Piet (Jim Markle)
     8. 06:47 AM - Re: Finally, work space! (Ryan Mueller)
     9. 06:49 AM - Re: Finally, work space! (Ryan Mueller)
    10. 06:54 AM - Re: Finally, work space! (Jack Phillips)
    11. 07:03 AM - Jim Markle sold his Piet for fifty bucks on ebay ! (with the engine and prop !!!)  (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation])
    12. 07:05 AM - Re: N8031: SBP -> OSH Spot track (Dan Yocum)
    13. 07:09 AM - Re: dog at brodhead (Tim Willis)
    14. 07:12 AM - Re: Jim Markle's Piet (delliott@cableone.net)
    15. 07:12 AM - Re: Finally, work space! (Dan Yocum)
    16. 07:22 AM - Re: Jim Markle's Piet (Jim Markle)
    17. 07:25 AM - Re: Jim Markle sold his Piet for fifty bucks on ebay ! (with the engine and prop !!!) (amsafetyc@aol.com)
    18. 07:34 AM - Re: Jim Markle sold his Piet for fifty bucks on ebay ! (with the engine and prop !!!) (Gary Boothe)
    19. 07:35 AM - Fuselage strips (chase143)
    20. 07:42 AM - Re: Fuselage strips (Jack Phillips)
    21. 08:21 AM - Re: opinions on ebay motorcycle wheels? (Ken Chambers)
    22. 08:48 AM - Re: opinions on ebay motorcycle wheels? (Gary Boothe)
    23. 09:10 AM - sketch might help-- fuselage strips to hold fabric off of bolts, hardware (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation])
    24. 10:19 AM - Re: Fuselage strips (chase143)
    25. 10:25 AM - Re: sketch might help-- fuselage strips to hold fabric off of bo (chase143)
    26. 10:54 AM - Re: sketch might help-- fuselage strips to hold fabric off of bolts, hardware (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation])
    27. 11:11 AM - Re: opinions on ebay motorcycle wheels? (Ken Chambers)
    28. 11:40 AM - Re: opinions on ebay motorcycle wheels? (Gary Boothe)
    29. 02:18 PM - McCulloch drone engine (Will42)
    30. 03:35 PM - Re: opinions on ebay motorcycle wheels? (Mike Tunnicliffe)
    31. 04:54 PM - Re: McCulloch drone engine (Chet's Mail)
    32. 06:52 PM - Re: opinions on ebay motorcycle wheels? (outofthebox50@yahoo.com)
    33. 08:09 PM - Re: McCulloch drone engine (Rob Stapleton)
    34. 08:13 PM - Re: opinions on ebay motorcycle wheels? (Mike Tunnicliffe)
    35. 09:02 PM - Re: Finally, work space! (Ryan Mueller)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:57:04 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Finally, work space!
    From: helspersew@aol.com
    Ryan, Fond memories of Olson Airport. I had my Champ tied-down behind the big hangar back in 1976-81. Really couldn't afford an airplane, but had it anyway. Was so poor I had to take it apart and store it in my garage in the winter. Couldn't afford the $25.00/mo. tie-down fee!!? Good luck!!!! Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. -----Original Message----- From: Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com> Sent: Mon, Jul 20, 2009 12:57 am Subject: Pietenpol-List: Finally, work space! We are very happy to say that we have finally found somewhere we can put our Piet project! We will be renting the main level of a 125 year old barn at Olson Airport (private, LL53). Lot's of space, and our Piet will now be 1 hour from our place instead of 2.5. We haven't made much actual build progress this year, but I think overall we have made the most progress this year. We purchased Del Magsam's project, so we have the basic fuse and wing complete (although we will be cutting the wing in half). We have, and will shortly be receiving, many engine parts. And we now have space where we can build our Piet, that we can actually get to often! http://s972.photobucket.com/albums/ae210/rmpanzer23/ Woohoo!! Can't wait to see everyone at Brodhead (rain or shine). Ryan


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    Time: 04:22:45 AM PST US
    From: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Finally, work space!
    Very Cool, Ryan! Was that Jess in the pictures? I could have sworn she was blonde last year at Brodhead. Or is that your "airplane mistress" in the pictures? Even one hour away still makes building an airplane much more of a challenge. I built mine in my basement - don't know if I would have been able to finish it if I had to drive an hour each way, then get there and realize I had not brought some tool I needed. My hat's off to you. Looking forward to seeing you and your blonde or brunette wife at Brodhead in a few more days. Jack Phillips NX899JP Icarus Plummet _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Mueller Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 1:57 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Finally, work space! We are very happy to say that we have finally found somewhere we can put our Piet project! We will be renting the main level of a 125 year old barn at Olson Airport (private, LL53). Lot's of space, and our Piet will now be 1 hour from our place instead of 2.5. We haven't made much actual build progress this year, but I think overall we have made the most progress this year. We purchased Del Magsam's project, so we have the basic fuse and wing complete (although we will be cutting the wing in half). We have, and will shortly be receiving, many engine parts. And we now have space where we can build our Piet, that we can actually get to often! http://s972.photobucket.com/albums/ae210/rmpanzer23/ Woohoo!! Can't wait to see everyone at Brodhead (rain or shine). Ryan


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    Time: 05:40:22 AM PST US
    Subject: On my way
    From: amsafetyc@aol.com
    Getting ready to board the silver bird to mecca. Safe travels my friends looking to see you all there John Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry


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    Time: 06:11:50 AM PST US
    From: Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Jim Markle's Piet
    "delliott" wrote- >I purchased a partial built plane from Jim Markel. Wait. Is this the Jim Markle from Oklahoma? So he sold his Piet project and is out of the game? Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net


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    Time: 06:11:51 AM PST US
    From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
    Subject: Finally, work space!
    That looks like a GREAT space to do your building and congratulations on acquiring Del's project-- what a great jump start that will be !! Heck, the barn looks livable to me ! Mike C. do not archive


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    Time: 06:12:02 AM PST US
    From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
    Subject: opinions on ebay motorcycle wheels?
    Ken, You will likely get the usual discussion on the pros & cons of using motorcycle wheels, so you will have to make your own decision on that. I bought 21=94 Harley Sportster wheels with the bearings replaced to receive 1=94 axles. I then used Dick Navatril=92s idea of an 1 =BC=94 axle (tube) with step-down tubes installed. My step-down tubes run in about 18=94 on each end, with the 1=94 OD axle being the last. I had to actually mil this one as it was .004=94 over 1=94! =93Wheels 1=94 shows that the Harley hub has 5 pre-drilled and threaded holes for the disc brake set up on motorcycles. I match-drilled this layout on my drub brake shoe and attached the shoe with a cover disc (=931187=94). The wheels you are showing have a very interesting spoke attach method, and you may be challenged to find a way to attach brakes, either disc or drum. I am certainly no expert, and mine is not flight-proven. Good luck!! Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion Tail done, Fuselage on gear (13 ribs down=85) _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ken Chambers Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 3:59 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: opinions on ebay motorcycle wheels? Anyone with motorcycle wheel experience care to offer an opinion on these dirt bike wheels? Think they'd be strong enough to handle the side loads? Any thoughts on attaching brakes? Machining them for a bigger axle? Or could keep the existing bearings with a solid axle? I've emailed to ask hub width and axle diameter but haven't heard back yet. Looks like the hub width is maybe 3 inches? http://contact.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ShowCoreAskSellerQues tio n <http://contact.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ShowCoreAskSellerQue sti on&&iid=190248078501&requested=giovannibikes&frm=284&redirect=0&n oredirectfa q=1&SSPageName=PageAskSellerQuestion_FAQ> &&iid=190248078501&requested=giovannibikes&frm=284&redirect=0&nor edirectfaq 1&SSPageName=PageAskSellerQuestion_FAQ


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    Time: 06:43:12 AM PST US
    From: Jim Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: Jim Markle's Piet
    Sell MY projecdt????? This is pathetic!!!! :-) What's really interesting about this is that I was helping Larry Neal sell his project (and Dean bought it) and just recently heard from Larry.... So here's a note from Dean after all this time and also Larry! Strange how events sometimes line up! Look forward to seeing you again Dean! Jim "I have not....will not...ain't never gonna...SELL MY PROJECT!!!" Markle In Oklahoma -----Original Message----- >From: Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com> >Sent: Jul 20, 2009 8:03 AM >To: Pietenpol List <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> >Subject: Pietenpol-List: Jim Markle's Piet > > > >"delliott" wrote- > >>I purchased a partial built plane from Jim Markel. > >Wait. Is this the Jim Markle from Oklahoma? So he >sold his Piet project and is out of the game? > >Oscar Zuniga >Air Camper NX41CC >San Antonio, TX >mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com >website at http://www.flysquirrel.net > >


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    Time: 06:47:01 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Finally, work space!
    From: Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com>
    Mike, The barn looks very livable to me as well. I have a Hennessy Hammock which will lash up nicely between the supports; a small refrigerator and a microwave and we'll be good to go. :P We actually have had Del's old project since early this year, but we have had to store it at a friend's house that is about 2.5 hours away. Suffice to say no work has been done on it. Now we should be able to get things accomplished! See you in a few days; have a safe trip. Ryan do not archive On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 7:54 AM, Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation] <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov> wrote: > Aerospace Corporation]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov> > > That looks like a GREAT space to do your building and congratulations on > acquiring > Del's project-- what a great jump start that will be !! Heck, the barn > looks livable to me ! > > Mike C. > > do not archive > >


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    Time: 06:49:12 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Finally, work space!
    From: Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com>
    Hi Jack, That was Jess; she is my airplane mistress. :P She also confirmed that she was indeed blonde last year at Brodhead. Good memory. We would love to have the airplane even closer, but that's the best we can do for now. We go out to Elgin quite frequently, as Jess's mother lives there. This airport is only 15 minutes from her door. While one hour from u s is not ideal, it's still far better than 2.5 hours away. I plan on moving m y large tool box and most of my tools there, so we should be good to go in th e tool department. We'll see how it all works out, but we're pretty enthused. It's light at the end of the tunnel. :P Have a good day, and we look forward to seeing you soon! Ryan do not archive On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 6:20 AM, Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>wrot e: > Very Cool, Ryan! Was that Jess in the pictures? I could have sworn she > was blonde last year at Brodhead. Or is that your =93airplane mistress =94 in > the pictures? > > > Even one hour away still makes building an airplane much more of a > challenge. I built mine in my basement ' don=92t know if I would have been > able to finish it if I had to drive an hour each way, then get there and > realize I had not brought some tool I needed. My hat=92s off to you. > > > Looking forward to seeing you and your blonde or brunette wife at Brodhea d > in a few more days. > > > Jack Phillips > > NX899JP > > Icarus Plummet >


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    Time: 06:54:09 AM PST US
    From: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Finally, work space!
    I generally have a pretty good memory for pretty ladies. I haven't got a clue what you look like, Ryan. Let's get re-acquainted in a couple of days at Brodhead. Jack _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Mueller Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 9:49 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Finally, work space! Hi Jack, That was Jess; she is my airplane mistress. :P She also confirmed that she was indeed blonde last year at Brodhead. Good memory. We would love to have the airplane even closer, but that's the best we can do for now. We go out to Elgin quite frequently, as Jess's mother lives there. This airport is only 15 minutes from her door. While one hour from us is not ideal, it's still far better than 2.5 hours away. I plan on moving my large tool box and most of my tools there, so we should be good to go in the tool department. We'll see how it all works out, but we're pretty enthused. It's light at the end of the tunnel. :P Have a good day, and we look forward to seeing you soon! Ryan do not archive On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 6:20 AM, Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net> wrote: Very Cool, Ryan! Was that Jess in the pictures? I could have sworn she was blonde last year at Brodhead. Or is that your "airplane mistress" in the pictures? Even one hour away still makes building an airplane much more of a challenge. I built mine in my basement - don't know if I would have been able to finish it if I had to drive an hour each way, then get there and realize I had not brought some tool I needed. My hat's off to you. Looking forward to seeing you and your blonde or brunette wife at Brodhead in a few more days. Jack Phillips NX899JP Icarus Plummet


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    Time: 07:03:34 AM PST US
    From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
    Subject: Jim Markle sold his Piet for fifty bucks on ebay ! (with
    the engine and prop !!!) yep....says he HATES aviation now and women. (Well....let's not go THAT far) Funny how info can get all twisted around isn't it ? Good to hear you still have your project Jim and are working on it. Also good to hear that you'll be able to visit for at least a little bit at Brodhead. Looking forward to seeing you man ! Mike C. do not archive


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    Time: 07:05:12 AM PST US
    From: Dan Yocum <yocum@fnal.gov>
    Subject: Re: N8031: SBP -> OSH Spot track
    Ryan Mueller wrote: > We stopped down at Olson on Saturday for the first time, and when we > introduced ourselves to John and told him we were building a Pietenpol > he said there was someone bringing one down after Oshkosh. He said it > was being flown from CA to Oshkosh to be delivered to the buyer, and > then was coming to Olson. Your name escaped him at that moment, so we > mentioned it, and he said yep, that was it. Ah, you must be pretty close - where do you fly out of? I'll have to swing by and see your progress - I'll use any excuse to fly off the 20 hours the insurance company wants before I can take passengers. Dan do not archive -- Dan Yocum Fermilab 630.840.6509 yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov Fermilab. Just zeros and ones.


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    Time: 07:09:05 AM PST US
    From: Tim Willis <timothywillis@earthlink.net>
    Subject: dog at brodhead
    Billy M., We camped next to a nice pickup camper at Brodhead in 2006. The owners brought a Weimaraner and a Persian cat, and walked them both on leashes (yes, the cat!). No one objected and in fact, Ron and I both thought it added to the scene. We were all very well behaved ;) Tim in central TX do not archive


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    Time: 07:12:48 AM PST US
    From: "delliott@cableone.net" <delliott@cableone.net>
    Subject: Re: Jim Markle's Piet
    I bought the Pietenpol project from him when he was still living in Plano, TX. As Far as I know, he is getting close to finishing the other one that he kept. Dean Elliott On Mon Jul 20 6:03 , Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com> sent: > > >"delliott" wrote- > >>I purchased a partial built plane from Jim Markel. > >Wait. Is this the Jim Markle from Oklahoma? So he >sold his Piet project and is out of the game? > >Oscar Zuniga >Air Camper NX41CC >San Antonio, TX >mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com >website at http://www.flysquirrel.net > > ---- Msg sent via CableONE.net MyMail - http://www.cableone.net


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    Time: 07:12:58 AM PST US
    From: Dan Yocum <yocum@fnal.gov>
    Subject: Re: Finally, work space!
    Ryan Mueller wrote: > We are very happy to say that we have finally found somewhere we can put > our Piet project! We will be renting the main level of a 125 year old > barn at Olson Airport (private, LL53). Lot's of space, and our Piet will Hm. Methinks I need to catch up on the entire backlog of email before replying to older email. Looks like I'll be flying through your place on a regular basis! :-D Once the insurance hours are flown off, I'll be happy to provide you with "motivational" rides to keep your juices flowing. Cheers, Dan do not archive -- Dan Yocum Fermilab 630.840.6509 yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov Fermilab. Just zeros and ones.


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    Time: 07:22:18 AM PST US
    From: Jim Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: Jim Markle's Piet
    Hey Dean, I think Oscar was "yanking your lariet"..... He knows I wouldn't sell (unless some family issue) do note archive -----Original Message----- >From: "delliott@cableone.net" <delliott@cableone.net> >Sent: Jul 20, 2009 10:58 AM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Jim Markle's Piet > > >I bought the Pietenpol project from him when he was still living in Plano, TX. As >Far as I know, he is getting close to finishing the other one that he kept. > >Dean Elliott > > >On Mon Jul 20 6:03 , Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com> sent: > >> >> >>"delliott" wrote- >> >>>I purchased a partial built plane from Jim Markel. >> >>Wait. Is this the Jim Markle from Oklahoma? So he >>sold his Piet project and is out of the game? >> >>Oscar Zuniga >>Air Camper NX41CC >>San Antonio, TX >>mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com >>website at http://www.flysquirrel.net >> >> >> >> > > >---- Msg sent via CableONE.net MyMail - http://www.cableone.net > >


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    Time: 07:25:37 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Jim Markle sold his Piet for fifty bucks on ebay !
    (with the engine and prop !!!)
    From: amsafetyc@aol.com
    I knew about the women part, but his piet? Wow he must be a hurtin cowboy. Just landed Detroit and in route to midway John ------Original Message------ From: Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation] Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com ReplyTo: Pietenpol builders Board Sent: Jul 20, 2009 9:58 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Jim Markle sold his Piet for fifty bucks on ebay ! (with the engine and prop !!!) yep....says he HATES aviation now and women. (Well....let's not go THAT far) Funny how info can get all twisted around isn't it ? Good to hear you still have your project Jim and are working on it. Also good to hear that you'll be able to visit for at least a little bit at Brodhead. Looking forward to seeing you man ! Mike C. do not archive Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry


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    Time: 07:34:35 AM PST US
    From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
    Subject: Jim Markle sold his Piet for fifty bucks on ebay !
    (with the engine and prop !!!) I heard that someone saw him on the airshow circuit in France, flying F18's or something. When did Jim stop liking Piets??? Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion Tail done, Fuselage on gear (13 ribs down.) -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of amsafetyc@aol.com Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 7:25 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Jim Markle sold his Piet for fifty bucks on ebay ! (with the engine and prop !!!) I knew about the women part, but his piet? Wow he must be a hurtin cowboy. Just landed Detroit and in route to midway John ------Original Message------ From: Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation] Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com ReplyTo: Pietenpol builders Board Sent: Jul 20, 2009 9:58 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Jim Markle sold his Piet for fifty bucks on ebay ! (with the engine and prop !!!) Aerospace Corporation]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov> yep....says he HATES aviation now and women. (Well....let's not go THAT far) Funny how info can get all twisted around isn't it ? Good to hear you still have your project Jim and are working on it. Also good to hear that you'll be able to visit for at least a little bit at Brodhead. Looking forward to seeing you man ! Mike C. do not archive Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry


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    Time: 07:35:04 AM PST US
    Subject: Fuselage strips
    From: "chase143" <chase143@aol.com>
    Hello all, Plans call for filler strips (spruce 1/8" x 1/4") between gussets on fuselage. I'm not confident my old table saw can cut consistent strips that thin. Anything wrong with using 1/8" Finnish birch plywood strips? Any other gotchas out there? Looking forward to Brodhead/Osh!! Thanks Steve Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=253887#253887


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    Time: 07:42:57 AM PST US
    From: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Fuselage strips
    That will work, Steve - it's just a bit heavier. I actually made my strips 1/4" of spruce - easier to work with (you can use left over rib capstrip material) it gets the fabric a bit further off the plywood. My stringers stood about 2" high off the plywood at the highest point (mid fuselage), tapering fore and aft to fit flush against the filler strips at the firewall and to blend into the tailpost at the rear. Just think how you want the fabric to flow and give it support to make it do what you want. Jack Phillips NX899JP -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of chase143 Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 10:35 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fuselage strips Hello all, Plans call for filler strips (spruce 1/8" x 1/4") between gussets on fuselage. I'm not confident my old table saw can cut consistent strips that thin. Anything wrong with using 1/8" Finnish birch plywood strips? Any other gotchas out there? Looking forward to Brodhead/Osh!! Thanks Steve Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=253887#253887


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    Time: 08:21:57 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: opinions on ebay motorcycle wheels?
    From: Ken Chambers <ken.riffic@gmail.com>
    Thanks Gary. That's a beautiful setup you have. I have no machining skills or tools so I'm trying to figure out a way to do it as simply as possible with the split axle gear. I wonder if anyone uses solid axles? Heavier, sure, but would it hold up. O n a motorcycle it's supported on both ends by the fork. On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 8:03 AM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote: > Ken, > > > You will likely get the usual discussion on the pros & cons of using > motorcycle wheels, so you will have to make your own decision on that. I > bought 21=94 Harley Sportster wheels with the bearings replaced to receiv e 1=94 > axles. I then used Dick Navatril=92s idea of an 1 =BC=94 axle (tube) with > step-down tubes installed. My step-down tubes run in about 18=94 on each end, > with the 1=94 OD axle being the last. I had to actually mil this one as i t was > .004=94 over 1=94! > > > =93Wheels 1=94 shows that the Harley hub has 5 pre-drilled and threaded h oles > for the disc brake set up on motorcycles. I match-drilled this layout on my > drub brake shoe and attached the shoe with a cover disc (=931187=94). > > > The wheels you are showing have a very interesting spoke attach method, a nd > you may be challenged to find a way to attach brakes, either disc or drum . > > > I am certainly no expert, and mine is not flight-proven. Good luck!! > > > Gary Boothe > > Cool, Ca. > > Pietenpol > > WW Corvair Conversion > > Tail done, Fuselage on gear > > (13 ribs down=85) > ------------------------------ > > *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: > owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Chambers > *Sent:* Sunday, July 19, 2009 3:59 PM > *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Pietenpol-List: opinions on ebay motorcycle wheels? > > > Anyone with motorcycle wheel experience care to offer an opinion on these > dirt bike wheels? > > Think they'd be strong enough to handle the side loads? Any thoughts on > attaching brakes? Machining them for a bigger axle? Or could keep the > existing bearings with a solid axle? > > I've emailed to ask hub width and axle diameter but haven't heard back ye t. > Looks like the hub width is maybe 3 inches? > > > http://contact.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ShowCoreAskSellerQues tion&&iid=190248078501&requested=giovannibikes&frm=284&redirect=0&n oredirectfaq=1&SSPageName=PageAskSellerQuestion_FAQ > > -- Ken Chambers 512-796-1798


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    Time: 08:48:45 AM PST US
    From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
    Subject: opinions on ebay motorcycle wheels?
    Ken, I have no machining skills, or tools, either. Attached is a picture of how I made it happen: Just figured out a way to chuck the axle to one of my =BD=94 drills and used wet-or-dry paper to remove the steel; took about 45 minutes ' 1 hour per axle. A solid axle is being used by many, but you did not say how big of an axle your bearings might take. Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion Tail done, Fuselage on gear (13 ribs down=85) _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ken Chambers Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 8:21 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: opinions on ebay motorcycle wheels? Thanks Gary. That's a beautiful setup you have. I have no machining skills or tools so I'm trying to figure out a way to do it as simply as possible with the split axle gear. I wonder if anyone uses solid axles? Heavier, sure, but would it hold up. On a motorcycle it's supported on both ends by the fork. On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 8:03 AM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote: Ken, You will likely get the usual discussion on the pros & cons of using motorcycle wheels, so you will have to make your own decision on that. I bought 21=94 Harley Sportster wheels with the bearings replaced to receive 1=94 axles. I then used Dick Navatril=92s idea of an 1 =BC=94 axle (tube) with step-down tubes installed. My step-down tubes run in about 18=94 on each end, with the 1=94 OD axle being the last. I had to actually mil this one as it was .004=94 over 1=94! =93Wheels 1=94 shows that the Harley hub has 5 pre-drilled and threaded holes for the disc brake set up on motorcycles. I match-drilled this layout on my drub brake shoe and attached the shoe with a cover disc (=931187=94). The wheels you are showing have a very interesting spoke attach method, and you may be challenged to find a way to attach brakes, either disc or drum. I am certainly no expert, and mine is not flight-proven. Good luck!! Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion Tail done, Fuselage on gear (13 ribs down=85) _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ken Chambers Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 3:59 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: opinions on ebay motorcycle wheels? Anyone with motorcycle wheel experience care to offer an opinion on these dirt bike wheels? Think they'd be strong enough to handle the side loads? Any thoughts on attaching brakes? Machining them for a bigger axle? Or could keep the existing bearings with a solid axle? I've emailed to ask hub width and axle diameter but haven't heard back yet. Looks like the hub width is maybe 3 inches? http://contact.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ShowCoreAskSellerQues tio n <http://contact.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ShowCoreAskSellerQue sti on&&iid=190248078501&requested=giovannibikes&frm=284&redirect=0&n oredirectfa q=1&SSPageName=PageAskSellerQuestion_FAQ> &&iid=190248078501&requested=giovannibikes&frm=284&redirect=0&nor edirectfaq 1&SSPageName=PageAskSellerQuestion_FAQ -- Ken Chambers 512-796-1798


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    Time: 09:10:04 AM PST US
    From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
    Subject: sketch might help-- fuselage strips to hold fabric off
    of bolts, hardware


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    Time: 10:19:56 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fuselage strips
    From: "chase143" <chase143@aol.com>
    Excellent, thanks Jack. "Do not archive" Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=253928#253928


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    Time: 10:25:32 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: sketch might help-- fuselage strips to hold fabric
    off of bo
    From: "chase143" <chase143@aol.com>
    Mike, That sketch does help. The bottom writing is cut off, but it looks you also used 1" stringers there. I like Jack's description of the tapering for and aft, and with this, I think I have a pretty good idea how to proceed. Thanks again, Steve Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=253932#253932


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    Time: 10:54:37 AM PST US
    From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
    Subject: sketch might help-- fuselage strips to hold fabric
    off of bolts, hardware Right Steve-- I used 1" stringers on the belly and tapered them at the fire wall and tail. I did not (as you can see by this photo) taper the front of the fuselage si de stringers--these fit flush up against my 1/8" birch plywood firewall. This photo shows a bit more. Remember those landing gear fittings need to be made LONGER to penetrate th at standoff of fabric as the original Piets had no fabric stand off or in some cases no fabric on the bottom--just plywood.


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    Time: 11:11:33 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: opinions on ebay motorcycle wheels?
    From: Ken Chambers <ken.riffic@gmail.com>
    Thats a sweet setup Gary. Never thought of that. I might be able to make something like that work. For tyhe dirt bike wheels I'm looking at, I've emailed the seller to ask th e axle diameter but I haven't heard back. Also trying to figure out how wide the spoke is, hub to hub. Speaking of brakes, there is a flange with four holes on one side. You can see it in the attached photo On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote: > Ken, > > > I have no machining skills, or tools, either. Attached is a picture of ho w > I made it happen: Just figured out a way to chuck the axle to one of my =BD=94 > drills and used wet-or-dry paper to remove the steel; took about 45 minut es > ' 1 hour per axle. > > > A solid axle is being used by many, but you did not say how big of an axl e > your bearings might take. > > > Gary Boothe > > Cool, Ca. > > Pietenpol > > WW Corvair Conversion > > Tail done, Fuselage on gear > > (13 ribs down=85) > ------------------------------ > > *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: > owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Chambers > *Sent:* Monday, July 20, 2009 8:21 AM > *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Re: Pietenpol-List: opinions on ebay motorcycle wheels? > > > Thanks Gary. That's a beautiful setup you have. I have no machining skill s > or tools so I'm trying to figure out a way to do it as simply as possible > with the split axle gear. > > I wonder if anyone uses solid axles? Heavier, sure, but would it hold up. > On a motorcycle it's supported on both ends by the fork. > > On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 8:03 AM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> > wrote: > > Ken, > > > You will likely get the usual discussion on the pros & cons of using > motorcycle wheels, so you will have to make your own decision on that. I > bought 21=94 Harley Sportster wheels with the bearings replaced to receiv e 1=94 > axles. I then used Dick Navatril=92s idea of an 1 =BC=94 axle (tube) with > step-down tubes installed. My step-down tubes run in about 18=94 on each end, > with the 1=94 OD axle being the last. I had to actually mil this one as i t was > .004=94 over 1=94! > > > =93Wheels 1=94 shows that the Harley hub has 5 pre-drilled and threaded h oles > for the disc brake set up on motorcycles. I match-drilled this layout on my > drub brake shoe and attached the shoe with a cover disc (=931187=94). > > > The wheels you are showing have a very interesting spoke attach method, a nd > you may be challenged to find a way to attach brakes, either disc or drum . > > > I am certainly no expert, and mine is not flight-proven. Good luck!! > > > Gary Boothe > > Cool, Ca. > > Pietenpol > > WW Corvair Conversion > > Tail done, Fuselage on gear > > (13 ribs down=85) > ------------------------------ > > *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: > owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Chambers > *Sent:* Sunday, July 19, 2009 3:59 PM > *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Pietenpol-List: opinions on ebay motorcycle wheels? > > > Anyone with motorcycle wheel experience care to offer an opinion on these > dirt bike wheels? > > Think they'd be strong enough to handle the side loads? Any thoughts on > attaching brakes? Machining them for a bigger axle? Or could keep the > existing bearings with a solid axle? > > I've emailed to ask hub width and axle diameter but haven't heard back ye t. > Looks like the hub width is maybe 3 inches? > > > http://contact.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ShowCoreAskSellerQues tion&&iid=190248078501&requested=giovannibikes&frm=284&redirect=0&n oredirectfaq=1&SSPageName=PageAskSellerQuestion_FAQ > > > -- > Ken Chambers > 512-796-1798 > > * * > > * * > > ** > > ** > > ** > > *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List* > > ** > > ** > > *http://forums.matronics.com* > > ** > > ** > > *http://www.matronics.com/contribution* > > * * > > -- Ken Chambers 512-796-1798


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    Time: 11:40:07 AM PST US
    From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
    Subject: opinions on ebay motorcycle wheels?
    Ken, So there is!! You may be on to something! Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion Tail done, Fuselage on gear (13 ribs down=85) _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ken Chambers Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 11:11 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: opinions on ebay motorcycle wheels? Thats a sweet setup Gary. Never thought of that. I might be able to make something like that work. For tyhe dirt bike wheels I'm looking at, I've emailed the seller to ask the axle diameter but I haven't heard back. Also trying to figure out how wide the spoke is, hub to hub. Speaking of brakes, there is a flange with four holes on one side. You can see it in the attached photo On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote: Ken, I have no machining skills, or tools, either. Attached is a picture of how I made it happen: Just figured out a way to chuck the axle to one of my =BD=94 drills and used wet-or-dry paper to remove the steel; took about 45 minutes ' 1 hour per axle. A solid axle is being used by many, but you did not say how big of an axle your bearings might take. Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion Tail done, Fuselage on gear (13 ribs down=85) _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ken Chambers Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 8:21 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: opinions on ebay motorcycle wheels? Thanks Gary. That's a beautiful setup you have. I have no machining skills or tools so I'm trying to figure out a way to do it as simply as possible with the split axle gear. I wonder if anyone uses solid axles? Heavier, sure, but would it hold up. On a motorcycle it's supported on both ends by the fork. On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 8:03 AM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote: Ken, You will likely get the usual discussion on the pros & cons of using motorcycle wheels, so you will have to make your own decision on that. I bought 21=94 Harley Sportster wheels with the bearings replaced to receive 1=94 axles. I then used Dick Navatril=92s idea of an 1 =BC=94 axle (tube) with step-down tubes installed. My step-down tubes run in about 18=94 on each end, with the 1=94 OD axle being the last. I had to actually mil this one as it was .004=94 over 1=94! =93Wheels 1=94 shows that the Harley hub has 5 pre-drilled and threaded holes for the disc brake set up on motorcycles. I match-drilled this layout on my drub brake shoe and attached the shoe with a cover disc (=931187=94). The wheels you are showing have a very interesting spoke attach method, and you may be challenged to find a way to attach brakes, either disc or drum. I am certainly no expert, and mine is not flight-proven. Good luck!! Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion Tail done, Fuselage on gear (13 ribs down=85) _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ken Chambers Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 3:59 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: opinions on ebay motorcycle wheels? Anyone with motorcycle wheel experience care to offer an opinion on these dirt bike wheels? Think they'd be strong enough to handle the side loads? Any thoughts on attaching brakes? Machining them for a bigger axle? Or could keep the existing bearings with a solid axle? I've emailed to ask hub width and axle diameter but haven't heard back yet. Looks like the hub width is maybe 3 inches? http://contact.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ShowCoreAskSellerQues tio n <http://contact.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ShowCoreAskSellerQue sti on&&iid=190248078501&requested=giovannibikes&frm=284&redirect=0&n oredirectfa q=1&SSPageName=PageAskSellerQuestion_FAQ> &&iid=190248078501&requested=giovannibikes&frm=284&redirect=0&nor edirectfaq 1&SSPageName=PageAskSellerQuestion_FAQ -- Ken Chambers 512-796-1798 http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution -- Ken Chambers 512-796-1798


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    Time: 02:18:19 PM PST US
    Subject: McCulloch drone engine
    From: "Will42" <will@cctc.net>
    I need a McCulloch drone engine for a project. If you have one or more for sale and/or parts, please contact me. will@cctc.net Thanks so much.........Will Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=253970#253970


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    Time: 03:35:12 PM PST US
    From: "Mike Tunnicliffe" <zk-owl@CLEAR.NET.NZ>
    Subject: Re: opinions on ebay motorcycle wheels?
    They look like the Chineese made wheels I'am using, I knocked out the bearings and installed bronze bushes with a 1" bore as that was the largest size I could fit through the hub. Not flight proven at this stage. Regards Mike T. ----- Original Message ----- From: Ken Chambers To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 6:10 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: opinions on ebay motorcycle wheels? Thats a sweet setup Gary. Never thought of that. I might be able to make something like that work. For tyhe dirt bike wheels I'm looking at, I've emailed the seller to ask the axle diameter but I haven't heard back. Also trying to figure out how wide the spoke is, hub to hub. Speaking of brakes, there is a flange with four holes on one side. You can see it in the attached photo On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote: Ken, I have no machining skills, or tools, either. Attached is a picture of how I made it happen: Just figured out a way to chuck the axle to one of my =BD=94 drills and used wet-or-dry paper to remove the steel; took about 45 minutes ' 1 hour per axle. A solid axle is being used by many, but you did not say how big of an axle your bearings might take. Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion Tail done, Fuselage on gear (13 ribs down=85) ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ken Chambers Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 8:21 AM To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: opinions on ebay motorcycle wheels? Thanks Gary. That's a beautiful setup you have. I have no machining skills or tools so I'm trying to figure out a way to do it as simply as possible with the split axle gear. I wonder if anyone uses solid axles? Heavier, sure, but would it hold up. On a motorcycle it's supported on both ends by the fork. On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 8:03 AM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote: Ken, You will likely get the usual discussion on the pros & cons of using motorcycle wheels, so you will have to make your own decision on that. I bought 21=94 Harley Sportster wheels with the bearings replaced to receive 1=94 axles. I then used Dick Navatril=92s idea of an 1 =BC=94 axle (tube) with step-down tubes installed. My step-down tubes run in about 18=94 on each end, with the 1=94 OD axle being the last. I had to actually mil this one as it was .004=94 over 1=94! =93Wheels 1=94 shows that the Harley hub has 5 pre-drilled and threaded holes for the disc brake set up on motorcycles. I match-drilled this layout on my drub brake shoe and attached the shoe with a cover disc (=931187=94). The wheels you are showing have a very interesting spoke attach method, and you may be challenged to find a way to attach brakes, either disc or drum. I am certainly no expert, and mine is not flight-proven. Good luck!! Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion Tail done, Fuselage on gear (13 ribs down=85) ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ken Chambers Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 3:59 PM To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: opinions on ebay motorcycle wheels? Anyone with motorcycle wheel experience care to offer an opinion on these dirt bike wheels? Think they'd be strong enough to handle the side loads? Any thoughts on attaching brakes? Machining them for a bigger axle? Or could keep the existing bearings with a solid axle? I've emailed to ask hub width and axle diameter but haven't heard back yet. Looks like the hub width is maybe 3 inches? http://contact.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ShowCoreAskSellerQues tion&&iid=190248078501&requested=giovannibikes&frm=284&redirect=0 &noredirectfaq=1&SSPageName=PageAskSellerQuestion_FAQ -- Ken Chambers 512-796-1798 http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-Listhttp://forums.matronics. comhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution -- Ken Chambers 512-796-1798


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    Time: 04:54:56 PM PST US
    From: "Chet's Mail" <Chethartley1@mchsi.com>
    Subject: Re: McCulloch drone engine
    Will, Have you been on E-bay under Ebay motors and then under engines, there have been four or five as of late. Chet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Will42" <will@cctc.net> Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 4:17 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: McCulloch drone engine > > I need a McCulloch drone engine for a project. If you have one or more for > sale and/or parts, please contact me. will@cctc.net Thanks so > much.........Will > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=253970#253970 > > >


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    Time: 06:52:00 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: opinions on ebay motorcycle wheels?
    From: outofthebox50@yahoo.com
    Guys, we were planing to use wheels like the ones yall are discussing. One thing I noticed during researching them is that the Chinese tires had a very low weight rating. There are tires out there that have adequate weight ratings that will fit those wheels. Just be sure to figure that cost into your decision. We only went away from them because I decided to down size m y racing efforts and donated two CR500 18 inch wheels with 5 inch wide hubs to the cause. I had the e xtra master cylinders and the only thing we need to buy are tires and one rotor. Jeremy in Dallas Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -----Original Message----- From: "Mike Tunnicliffe" <zk-owl@clear.net.nz> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: opinions on ebay motorcycle whee ls? This is a multi-part message in MIME format.


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    Time: 08:09:20 PM PST US
    From: "Rob Stapleton" <foto@alaska.net>
    Subject: McCulloch drone engine
    How does one contact you? Rob Rob Stapleton, Photojournalist Anchorage, AK (907) 230-9425 KL2AN Skype:rob.stapleton.jr -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Will42 Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 1:17 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: McCulloch drone engine I need a McCulloch drone engine for a project. If you have one or more for sale and/or parts, please contact me. will@cctc.net Thanks so much.........Will Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=253970#253970


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    Time: 08:13:37 PM PST US
    From: "Mike Tunnicliffe" <zk-owl@CLEAR.NET.NZ>
    Subject: Re: opinions on ebay motorcycle wheels?
    Hi, the tyres I,m using are good ones and the tubes are heavy duty, its only the wheels that may not handle much abuse. Regards Mike T. ----- Original Message ----- From: outofthebox50@yahoo.com To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 1:48 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: opinions on ebay motorcycle wheels? Guys, we were planing to use wheels like the ones yall are discussing. One thing I noticed during researching them is that the Chinese tires had a very low weight rating. There are tires out there that have adequate weight ratings that will fit those wheels. Just be sure to figure that cost into your decision. We only went away from them because I decided to down size my racing efforts and donated two CR500 18 inch wheels with 5 inch wide hubs to the cause. I had the extra master cylinders and the only thing we need to buy are tires and one rotor. Jeremy in Dallas Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: "Mike Tunnicliffe" Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 10:05:30 +1200 To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: opinions on ebay motorcycle wheels? They look like the Chineese made wheels = I'am using, I knocked out the bearings and installed bronze bushes with a 1" bore as = that was the largest size I could fit through the hub. Not flight proven at = this stage. Regards Mike T. ----- Original Message ----- From: Ken Chambers To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com= Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 = 6:10 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: = opinions on ebay motorcycle wheels? Thats a sweet setup Gary. Never thought of that. I = might be able to make something like that work. For tyhe dirt bike = wheels I'm looking at, I've emailed the seller to ask the axle diameter but I = haven't heard back. Also trying to figure out how wide the spoke is, hub to = hub. Speaking of brakes, there is a flange with four holes on one = side. You can see it in the attached photo On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Gary Boothe =<gboothe5@comcast.net> = wrote: Ken, I have no = machining skills, or tools, either. Attached is a picture of how I made it happen: Just figured out a way to chuck the axle to one of my = =BD=94 drills and used wet-or-dry paper to remove the steel; took about 45 = minutes =96 1 hour per axle. A solid = axle is being used by many, but you did not say how big of an axle your = bearings might take. Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW = Corvair Conversion Tail done, Fuselage on gear (13 ribs down=85) ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com = [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] =On Behalf Of Ken = Chambers Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 = 8:21 AM To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: = opinions on ebay motorcycle wheels? Thanks Gary. That's a beautiful setup = you have. I have no machining skills or tools so I'm trying to figure out a = way to do it as simply as possible with the split axle gear. I wonder = if anyone uses solid axles? Heavier, sure, but would it hold up. On a motorcycle it's supported on both ends by the fork. On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 8:03 AM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> = wrote: Ken, You will = likely get the usual discussion on the pros & cons of using motorcycle = wheels, so you will have to make your own decision on that. I bought 21=94 = Harley Sportster wheels with the bearings replaced to receive 1=94 axles. I = then used Dick Navatril=92s idea of an 1 =BC=94 axle (tube) with step-down = tubes installed. My step-down tubes run in about 18=94 on each end, with the 1=94 OD = axle being the last. I had to actually mil this one as it was .004=94 over 1=94! =93Wheels = 1=94 shows that the Harley hub has 5 pre-drilled and threaded holes for the = disc brake set up on motorcycles. I match-drilled this layout on my drub brake = shoe and attached the shoe with a cover disc (=931187=94). The = wheels you are showing have a very interesting spoke attach method, and you may be challenged to find a way to attach brakes, either disc or drum. I am = certainly no expert, and mine is not flight-proven. Good luck!! Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW = Corvair Conversion Tail done, Fuselage on gear (13 ribs down=85) ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com = [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] =On Behalf Of Ken = Chambers Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 = 3:59 PM To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: = opinions on ebay motorcycle wheels? Anyone with motorcycle = wheel experience care to offer an opinion on these dirt bike wheels? Think they'd be strong enough to handle the side loads? Any thoughts on = attaching brakes? Machining them for a bigger axle? Or could keep the existing = bearings with a solid axle? I've emailed to ask hub width = and axle diameter but haven't heard back yet. Looks like the hub width is = maybe 3 inches? http://contact.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ShowC= oreAskSellerQuestion&&iid=3D190248078501&requested=3Dgiovanni= bikes&frm=3D284&redirect=3D0&noredirectfaq=3D1&SSPageName= =3DPageAskSellerQuestion_FAQ -- Ken = Chambers 512-796-1798 http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-Listhttp://forums.matronics. comhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution <= BR clear=3Dall> -- Ken = Chambers 512-796-1798 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D =B7=9B~=89=ED=B2,=DE=03p=F6r=89h=AC =D3M}=A7=03p=A2=EAz=B9=C1=CA=AE'=03


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    Time: 09:02:24 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Finally, work space!
    From: Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com>
    That you will. We look forward to meeting you and your new Piet; it will be nice to have that motivation of a living, breathing Piet on the field as we work on ours. Have a good night, Ryan do not archive On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Dan Yocum <yocum@fnal.gov> wrote: > > > Ryan Mueller wrote: > >> We are very happy to say that we have finally found somewhere we can put >> our Piet project! We will be renting the main level of a 125 year old barn >> at Olson Airport (private, LL53). Lot's of space, and our Piet will >> > > Hm. Methinks I need to catch up on the entire backlog of email before > replying to older email. Looks like I'll be flying through your place on a > regular basis! > > :-D > > Once the insurance hours are flown off, I'll be happy to provide you with > "motivational" rides to keep your juices flowing. > > Cheers, > Dan > > do not archive > > -- > Dan Yocum > Fermilab 630.840.6509 > yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov > Fermilab. Just zeros and ones. >




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