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     1. 03:57 AM - Re: Finally, work space! (helspersew@aol.com)
     2. 04:22 AM - Re: Finally, work space! (Jack Phillips)
     3. 05:40 AM - On my way (amsafetyc@aol.com)
     4. 06:11 AM - Jim Markle's Piet (Oscar Zuniga)
     5. 06:11 AM - Re: Finally, work space! (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation])
     6. 06:12 AM - Re: opinions on ebay motorcycle wheels? (Gary Boothe)
     7. 06:43 AM - Re: Jim Markle's Piet (Jim Markle)
     8. 06:47 AM - Re: Finally, work space! (Ryan Mueller)
     9. 06:49 AM - Re: Finally, work space! (Ryan Mueller)
    10. 06:54 AM - Re: Finally, work space! (Jack Phillips)
    11. 07:03 AM - Jim Markle sold his Piet for fifty bucks on ebay ! (with the engine and prop !!!)  (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation])
    12. 07:05 AM - Re: N8031: SBP -> OSH Spot track (Dan Yocum)
    13. 07:09 AM - Re: dog at brodhead (Tim Willis)
    14. 07:12 AM - Re: Jim Markle's Piet (delliott@cableone.net)
    15. 07:12 AM - Re: Finally, work space! (Dan Yocum)
    16. 07:22 AM - Re: Jim Markle's Piet (Jim Markle)
    17. 07:25 AM - Re: Jim Markle sold his Piet for fifty bucks on ebay ! (with the engine and prop !!!) (amsafetyc@aol.com)
    18. 07:34 AM - Re: Jim Markle sold his Piet for fifty bucks on ebay ! (with the engine and prop !!!) (Gary Boothe)
    19. 07:35 AM - Fuselage strips (chase143)
    20. 07:42 AM - Re: Fuselage strips (Jack Phillips)
    21. 08:21 AM - Re: opinions on ebay motorcycle wheels? (Ken Chambers)
    22. 08:48 AM - Re: opinions on ebay motorcycle wheels? (Gary Boothe)
    23. 09:10 AM - sketch might help-- fuselage strips to hold fabric off of bolts, hardware (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation])
    24. 10:19 AM - Re: Fuselage strips (chase143)
    25. 10:25 AM - Re: sketch might help-- fuselage strips to hold fabric off of bo (chase143)
    26. 10:54 AM - Re: sketch might help-- fuselage strips to hold fabric off of bolts, hardware (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation])
    27. 11:11 AM - Re: opinions on ebay motorcycle wheels? (Ken Chambers)
    28. 11:40 AM - Re: opinions on ebay motorcycle wheels? (Gary Boothe)
    29. 02:18 PM - McCulloch drone engine (Will42)
    30. 03:35 PM - Re: opinions on ebay motorcycle wheels? (Mike Tunnicliffe)
    31. 04:54 PM - Re: McCulloch drone engine (Chet's Mail)
    32. 06:52 PM - Re: opinions on ebay motorcycle wheels? (outofthebox50@yahoo.com)
    33. 08:09 PM - Re: McCulloch drone engine (Rob Stapleton)
    34. 08:13 PM - Re: opinions on ebay motorcycle wheels? (Mike Tunnicliffe)
    35. 09:02 PM - Re: Finally, work space! (Ryan Mueller)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Re: Finally, work space! | 
      
      Ryan,
      
      Fond memories of Olson Airport. I had my Champ tied-down behind the big hangar
      back in 1976-81. Really couldn't afford an airplane, but had it anyway. Was so
      poor I had to take it apart and store it in my garage in the winter. Couldn't
      afford the $25.00/mo. tie-down fee!!? Good luck!!!!
      
      Dan Helsper
      Poplar Grove, IL.
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com>
      Sent: Mon, Jul 20, 2009 12:57 am
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Finally, work space!
      
      
      We are very happy to say that we have finally found somewhere we can put our Piet
      project! We will be renting the main level of a 125 year old barn at Olson
      Airport (private, LL53). Lot's of space, and our Piet will now be 1 hour from
      our place instead of 2.5. We haven't made much actual build progress this year,
      but I think overall we have made the most progress this year. We purchased Del
      Magsam's project, so we have the basic fuse and wing complete (although we
      will be cutting the wing in half). We have, and will shortly be receiving, many
      engine parts. And we now have space where we can build our Piet, that we can
      actually get to often! 
      
      http://s972.photobucket.com/albums/ae210/rmpanzer23/
      
      Woohoo!! Can't wait to see everyone at Brodhead (rain or shine).
      
      Ryan
      
      
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| Subject:  | Finally, work space! | 
      
      Very Cool, Ryan!  Was that Jess in the pictures?  I could have sworn she was
      blonde last year at Brodhead.  Or is that your "airplane mistress" in the
      pictures?
      
      
      Even one hour away still makes building an airplane much more of a
      challenge.  I built mine in my basement - don't know if I would have been
      able to finish it if I had to drive an hour each way, then get there and
      realize I had not brought some tool I needed.  My hat's off to you.
      
      
      Looking forward to seeing you and your blonde or brunette wife at Brodhead
      in a few more days.
      
      
      Jack Phillips
      
      NX899JP
      
      Icarus Plummet
      
      
        _____  
      
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Mueller
      Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 1:57 AM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Finally, work space!
      
      
      We are very happy to say that we have finally found somewhere we can put our
      Piet project! We will be renting the main level of a 125 year old barn at
      Olson Airport (private, LL53). Lot's of space, and our Piet will now be 1
      hour from our place instead of 2.5. We haven't made much actual build
      progress this year, but I think overall we have made the most progress this
      year. We purchased Del Magsam's project, so we have the basic fuse and wing
      complete (although we will be cutting the wing in half). We have, and will
      shortly be receiving, many engine parts. And we now have space where we can
      build our Piet, that we can actually get to often! 
      
      http://s972.photobucket.com/albums/ae210/rmpanzer23/
      
      Woohoo!! Can't wait to see everyone at Brodhead (rain or shine).
      
      Ryan
      
      
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      Getting ready to board the silver bird to mecca. 
      
      Safe travels my friends looking to see you all there
      
      John
      Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
      
      
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| Subject:  | Jim Markle's Piet | 
      
      
      
      "delliott" wrote-
      
      >I purchased a partial built plane from Jim Markel.
      
      Wait.  Is this the Jim Markle from Oklahoma?  So he
      sold his Piet project and is out of the game?
      
      Oscar Zuniga
      Air Camper NX41CC
      San Antonio, TX
      mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
      website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
      
      
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| Subject:  | Finally, work space! | 
      
      
      That looks like a GREAT space to do your building and congratulations on acquiring
      Del's project-- what a great jump start that will be !!    Heck, the barn looks
      livable to me !
      
      Mike C. 
      
      do not archive
      
      
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| Subject:  | opinions on ebay motorcycle wheels? | 
      
      Ken,
      
      
      You will likely get the usual discussion on the pros & cons of using
      motorcycle wheels, so you will have to make your own decision on that. I
      bought 21=94 Harley Sportster wheels with the bearings replaced to 
      receive 1=94
      axles. I then used Dick Navatril=92s idea of an 1 =BC=94 axle (tube) 
      with
      step-down tubes installed. My step-down tubes run in about 18=94 on each 
      end,
      with the 1=94 OD axle being the last. I had to actually mil this one as 
      it was
      .004=94 over 1=94!
      
      
      =93Wheels 1=94 shows that the Harley hub has 5 pre-drilled and threaded 
      holes
      for the disc brake set up on motorcycles. I match-drilled this layout on 
      my
      drub brake shoe and attached the shoe with a cover disc (=931187=94). 
      
      
      The wheels you are showing have a very interesting spoke attach method, 
      and
      you may be challenged to find a way to attach brakes, either disc or 
      drum. 
      
      
      I am certainly no expert, and mine is not flight-proven. Good luck!!
      
      
      Gary Boothe
      
      Cool, Ca.
      
      Pietenpol
      
      WW Corvair Conversion
      
      Tail done, Fuselage on gear
      
      (13 ribs down=85)
      
        _____  
      
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ken 
      Chambers
      Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 3:59 PM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: opinions on ebay motorcycle wheels?
      
      
      Anyone with motorcycle wheel experience care to offer an opinion on 
      these
      dirt bike wheels? 
      
      Think they'd be strong enough to handle the side loads? Any thoughts on
      attaching brakes? Machining them for a bigger axle? Or could keep the
      existing bearings with a solid axle? 
      
      I've emailed to ask hub width and axle diameter but haven't heard back 
      yet.
      Looks like the hub width is maybe 3 inches?
      
      http://contact.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ShowCoreAskSellerQues
      tio
      n
      <http://contact.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ShowCoreAskSellerQue
      sti
      on&&iid=190248078501&requested=giovannibikes&frm=284&redirect=0&n
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      edirectfaq
      1&SSPageName=PageAskSellerQuestion_FAQ
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Jim Markle's Piet | 
      
      
      Sell MY projecdt?????  This is pathetic!!!!  :-)
      
      What's really interesting about this is that I was helping Larry Neal sell his
      project (and Dean bought it) and just recently heard from Larry....
      
      So here's a note from Dean after all this time and also Larry!  Strange how events
      sometimes line up!
      
      Look forward to seeing you again Dean!
      
      Jim "I have not....will not...ain't never gonna...SELL MY PROJECT!!!" Markle
      In Oklahoma
      
      -----Original Message-----
      >From: Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com>
      >Sent: Jul 20, 2009 8:03 AM
      >To: Pietenpol List <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
      >Subject: Pietenpol-List: Jim Markle's Piet
      >
      >
      >
      >"delliott" wrote-
      > 
      >>I purchased a partial built plane from Jim Markel.
      > 
      >Wait.  Is this the Jim Markle from Oklahoma?  So he
      >sold his Piet project and is out of the game?
      >
      >Oscar Zuniga
      >Air Camper NX41CC
      >San Antonio, TX
      >mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
      >website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
      >
      >
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Finally, work space! | 
      
      Mike,
      
      The barn looks very livable to me as well. I have a Hennessy Hammock which
      will lash up nicely between the supports; a small refrigerator and a
      microwave and we'll be good to go. :P
      We actually have had Del's old project since early this year, but we have
      had to store it at a friend's house that is about 2.5 hours away. Suffice to
      say no work has been done on it. Now we should be able to get things
      accomplished! See you in a few days; have a safe trip.
      
      Ryan
      
      do not archive
      
      
      On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 7:54 AM, Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace
      Corporation] <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov> wrote:
      
      > Aerospace Corporation]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
      >
      > That looks like a GREAT space to do your building and congratulations on
      > acquiring
      > Del's project-- what a great jump start that will be !!    Heck, the barn
      > looks livable to me !
      >
      > Mike C.
      >
      > do not archive
      >
      >
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Finally, work space! | 
      
      Hi Jack,
      
      That was Jess; she is my airplane mistress. :P  She also confirmed that she
      was indeed blonde last year at Brodhead. Good memory.
      
      We would love to have the airplane even closer, but that's the best we can
      do for now. We go out to Elgin quite frequently, as Jess's mother lives
      there. This airport is only 15 minutes from her door. While one hour from u
      s
      is not ideal, it's still far better than 2.5 hours away. I plan on moving m
      y
      large tool box and most of my tools there, so we should be good to go in th
      e
      tool department. We'll see how it all works out, but we're pretty enthused.
      It's light at the end of the tunnel. :P
      
      Have a good day, and we look forward to seeing you soon!
      
      Ryan
      
      do not archive
      
      On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 6:20 AM, Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>wrot
      e:
      
      >  Very Cool, Ryan!  Was that Jess in the pictures?  I could have sworn she
      > was blonde last year at Brodhead.  Or is that your =93airplane mistress
      =94 in
      > the pictures?
      >
      >
      > Even one hour away still makes building an airplane much more of a
      > challenge.  I built mine in my basement ' don=92t know if I would have 
      been
      > able to finish it if I had to drive an hour each way, then get there and
      > realize I had not brought some tool I needed.  My hat=92s off to you.
      >
      >
      > Looking forward to seeing you and your blonde or brunette wife at Brodhea
      d
      > in a few more days.
      >
      >
      > Jack Phillips
      >
      > NX899JP
      >
      > Icarus Plummet
      >
      
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| Subject:  | Finally, work space! | 
      
      I generally have a pretty good memory for pretty ladies.  I haven't got a
      clue what you look like, Ryan.
      
      
      Let's get re-acquainted in a couple of days at Brodhead.
      
      
      Jack
      
      
        _____  
      
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Mueller
      Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 9:49 AM
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Finally, work space!
      
      
      Hi Jack,
      
      That was Jess; she is my airplane mistress. :P  She also confirmed that she
      was indeed blonde last year at Brodhead. Good memory.
      
      We would love to have the airplane even closer, but that's the best we can
      do for now. We go out to Elgin quite frequently, as Jess's mother lives
      there. This airport is only 15 minutes from her door. While one hour from us
      is not ideal, it's still far better than 2.5 hours away. I plan on moving my
      large tool box and most of my tools there, so we should be good to go in the
      tool department. We'll see how it all works out, but we're pretty enthused.
      It's light at the end of the tunnel. :P
      
      Have a good day, and we look forward to seeing you soon!
      
      Ryan
      
      do not archive
      
      On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 6:20 AM, Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
      wrote:
      
      Very Cool, Ryan!  Was that Jess in the pictures?  I could have sworn she was
      blonde last year at Brodhead.  Or is that your "airplane mistress" in the
      pictures?
      
      
      Even one hour away still makes building an airplane much more of a
      challenge.  I built mine in my basement - don't know if I would have been
      able to finish it if I had to drive an hour each way, then get there and
      realize I had not brought some tool I needed.  My hat's off to you.
      
      
      Looking forward to seeing you and your blonde or brunette wife at Brodhead
      in a few more days.
      
      
      Jack Phillips
      
      NX899JP
      
      Icarus Plummet
      
      
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| Subject:  | Jim Markle sold his Piet for fifty bucks on ebay !   (with | 
      the  engine and prop !!!) 
      
      
      yep....says he HATES aviation now and women.   (Well....let's not go THAT far)
      
      Funny how info can get all twisted around isn't it ?
      
      Good to hear you still have your project Jim and are working on it.   Also good
      to hear that you'll be able to visit for at least a little bit at Brodhead.   Looking
      forward to seeing you man !
      
      Mike C. 
      
      do not archive
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: N8031: SBP -> OSH Spot track | 
      
      
      
      Ryan Mueller wrote:
      
      > We stopped down at Olson on Saturday for the first time, and when we 
      > introduced ourselves to John and told him we were building a Pietenpol 
      > he said there was someone bringing one down after Oshkosh. He said it 
      > was being flown from CA to Oshkosh to be delivered to the buyer, and 
      > then was coming to Olson. Your name escaped him at that moment, so we 
      > mentioned it, and he said yep, that was it.
      
      Ah, you must be pretty close - where do you fly out of?   I'll have to 
      swing by and see your progress - I'll use any excuse to fly off the 20 
      hours the insurance company wants before I can take passengers.
      
      Dan
      
      do not archive
      
      
      -- 
      Dan Yocum
      Fermilab  630.840.6509
      yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
      Fermilab.  Just zeros and ones.
      
      
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      Billy M.,
      We camped next to a nice pickup camper at Brodhead in 2006.  The owners brought
      a Weimaraner and a Persian cat, and walked them both on leashes (yes, the cat!).
      No one objected and in fact, Ron and I both thought it added to the scene.
      We were all very well behaved ;)  
      Tim in central TX
      do not archive
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Jim Markle's Piet | 
      
      
      I bought the Pietenpol project from him when he was still living in Plano, TX.
      As
      Far as I know, he is getting close to finishing the other one that he kept.
      
      Dean Elliott
      
      
      On Mon Jul 20  6:03 , Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com> sent:
      
      >
      >
      >"delliott" wrote-
      > 
      >>I purchased a partial built plane from Jim Markel.
      > 
      >Wait.  Is this the Jim Markle from Oklahoma?  So he
      >sold his Piet project and is out of the game?
      >
      >Oscar Zuniga
      >Air Camper NX41CC
      >San Antonio, TX
      >mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
      >website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
      >
      >
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Finally, work space! | 
      
      
      
      Ryan Mueller wrote:
      > We are very happy to say that we have finally found somewhere we can put 
      > our Piet project! We will be renting the main level of a 125 year old 
      > barn at Olson Airport (private, LL53). Lot's of space, and our Piet will 
      
      Hm.  Methinks I need to catch up on the entire backlog of email before 
      replying to older email.  Looks like I'll be flying through your place 
      on a regular basis!
      
      :-D
      
      Once the insurance hours are flown off, I'll be happy to provide you 
      with "motivational" rides to keep your juices flowing.
      
      Cheers,
      Dan
      
      do not archive
      
      -- 
      Dan Yocum
      Fermilab  630.840.6509
      yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
      Fermilab.  Just zeros and ones.
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Jim Markle's Piet | 
      
      
      Hey Dean, I think Oscar was "yanking your lariet".....
      
      He knows I wouldn't sell (unless some family issue)
      
      do note archive
      
      -----Original Message-----
      >From: "delliott@cableone.net" <delliott@cableone.net>
      >Sent: Jul 20, 2009 10:58 AM
      >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Jim Markle's Piet
      >
      >
      >I bought the Pietenpol project from him when he was still living in Plano, TX.
      As
      >Far as I know, he is getting close to finishing the other one that he kept.
      >
      >Dean Elliott
      >
      >
      >On Mon Jul 20  6:03 , Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com> sent:
      >
      >>
      >>
      >>"delliott" wrote-
      >> 
      >>>I purchased a partial built plane from Jim Markel.
      >> 
      >>Wait.  Is this the Jim Markle from Oklahoma?  So he
      >>sold his Piet project and is out of the game?
      >>
      >>Oscar Zuniga
      >>Air Camper NX41CC
      >>San Antonio, TX
      >>mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
      >>website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >
      >
      >---- Msg sent via CableONE.net MyMail - http://www.cableone.net
      >
      >
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Jim Markle sold his Piet for fifty bucks on ebay ! | 
       (with the  engine and prop !!!)
      
      
      I knew about the women part, but his piet? Wow he must be a hurtin cowboy. 
      
      Just landed Detroit and in route to midway
      
      John
      ------Original Message------
      From: Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]
      Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      ReplyTo: Pietenpol builders Board
      Sent: Jul 20, 2009 9:58 AM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Jim Markle sold his Piet for fifty bucks on ebay !   (with
      the  engine and prop !!!)
      
      
      yep....says he HATES aviation now and women.   (Well....let's not go THAT far)
      
      Funny how info can get all twisted around isn't it ?
      
      Good to hear you still have your project Jim and are working on it.   Also good
      to hear that you'll be able to visit for at least a little bit at Brodhead.   Looking
      forward to seeing you man !
      
      Mike C. 
      
      do not archive
      
      
      Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
      
      
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| Subject:  | Jim Markle sold his Piet for fifty bucks on ebay ! | 
       (with the  engine and prop !!!)
      
      
      I heard that someone saw him on the airshow circuit in France, flying F18's
      or something. When did Jim stop liking Piets???
      
      Gary Boothe
      Cool, Ca.
      Pietenpol
      WW Corvair Conversion
      Tail done, Fuselage on gear
      (13 ribs down.)
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
      amsafetyc@aol.com
      Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 7:25 AM
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Jim Markle sold his Piet for fifty bucks on
      ebay ! (with the engine and prop !!!)
      
      
      I knew about the women part, but his piet? Wow he must be a hurtin cowboy. 
      
      Just landed Detroit and in route to midway
      
      John
      ------Original Message------
      From: Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]
      Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      ReplyTo: Pietenpol builders Board
      Sent: Jul 20, 2009 9:58 AM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Jim Markle sold his Piet for fifty bucks on ebay !
      (with the  engine and prop !!!)
      
      Aerospace Corporation]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
      
      yep....says he HATES aviation now and women.   (Well....let's not go THAT
      far)
      
      Funny how info can get all twisted around isn't it ?
      
      Good to hear you still have your project Jim and are working on it.   Also
      good
      to hear that you'll be able to visit for at least a little bit at Brodhead.
      Looking
      forward to seeing you man !
      
      Mike C. 
      
      do not archive
      
      
      Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
      
      
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      Hello all,
      Plans call for filler strips (spruce 1/8" x 1/4") between gussets on fuselage.
      I'm not confident my old table saw can cut consistent strips that thin. Anything
      wrong with using 1/8" Finnish birch plywood strips? Any other gotchas out there?
      Looking forward to Brodhead/Osh!!
      Thanks
      Steve
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=253887#253887
      
      
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      That will work, Steve - it's just a bit heavier.
      
      I actually made my strips 1/4" of spruce - easier to work with (you can use
      left over rib capstrip material) it gets the fabric a bit further off the
      plywood.  My stringers stood about 2" high off the plywood at the highest
      point (mid fuselage), tapering fore and aft to fit flush against the filler
      strips at the firewall and to blend into the tailpost at the rear.  Just
      think how you want the fabric to flow and give it support to make it do what
      you want.
      
      Jack Phillips
      NX899JP
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of chase143
      Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 10:35 AM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fuselage strips
      
      
      Hello all,
      Plans call for filler strips (spruce 1/8" x 1/4") between gussets on
      fuselage. I'm not confident my old table saw can cut consistent strips that
      thin. Anything wrong with using 1/8" Finnish birch plywood strips? Any other
      gotchas out there?
      Looking forward to Brodhead/Osh!!
      Thanks
      Steve
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=253887#253887
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: opinions on ebay motorcycle wheels? | 
      
      Thanks Gary. That's a beautiful setup you have. I have no machining skills
      or tools so I'm trying to figure out a way to do it as simply as possible
      with the split axle gear.
      
      I wonder if anyone uses solid axles? Heavier, sure, but would it hold up. O
      n
      a motorcycle it's supported on both ends by the fork.
      
      
      On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 8:03 AM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
      
      >  Ken,
      >
      >
      > You will likely get the usual discussion on the pros & cons of using
      > motorcycle wheels, so you will have to make your own decision on that. I
      > bought 21=94 Harley Sportster wheels with the bearings replaced to receiv
      e 1=94
      > axles. I then used Dick Navatril=92s idea of an 1 =BC=94 axle (tube) with
      > step-down tubes installed. My step-down tubes run in about 18=94 on each 
      end,
      > with the 1=94 OD axle being the last. I had to actually mil this one as i
      t was
      > .004=94 over 1=94!
      >
      >
      > =93Wheels 1=94 shows that the Harley hub has 5 pre-drilled and threaded h
      oles
      > for the disc brake set up on motorcycles. I match-drilled this layout on 
      my
      > drub brake shoe and attached the shoe with a cover disc (=931187=94).
      >
      >
      > The wheels you are showing have a very interesting spoke attach method, a
      nd
      > you may be challenged to find a way to attach brakes, either disc or drum
      .
      >
      >
      > I am certainly no expert, and mine is not flight-proven. Good luck!!
      >
      >
      > Gary Boothe
      >
      > Cool, Ca.
      >
      > Pietenpol
      >
      > WW Corvair Conversion
      >
      > Tail done, Fuselage on gear
      >
      > (13 ribs down=85)
      >   ------------------------------
      >
      > *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
      > owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Chambers
      > *Sent:* Sunday, July 19, 2009 3:59 PM
      > *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      > *Subject:* Pietenpol-List: opinions on ebay motorcycle wheels?
      >
      >
      > Anyone with motorcycle wheel experience care to offer an opinion on these
      > dirt bike wheels?
      >
      > Think they'd be strong enough to handle the side loads? Any thoughts on
      > attaching brakes? Machining them for a bigger axle? Or could keep the
      > existing bearings with a solid axle?
      >
      > I've emailed to ask hub width and axle diameter but haven't heard back ye
      t.
      > Looks like the hub width is maybe 3 inches?
      >
      >
      > http://contact.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ShowCoreAskSellerQues
      tion&&iid=190248078501&requested=giovannibikes&frm=284&redirect=0&n
      oredirectfaq=1&SSPageName=PageAskSellerQuestion_FAQ
      >
      >
      
      
      -- 
      Ken Chambers
      512-796-1798
      
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| Subject:  | opinions on ebay motorcycle wheels? | 
      
      Ken,
      
      
      I have no machining skills, or tools, either. Attached is a picture of 
      how I
      made it happen:  Just figured out a way to chuck the axle to one of my 
      =BD=94
      drills and used wet-or-dry paper to remove the steel; took about 45 
      minutes
      ' 1 hour per axle.
      
      
      A solid axle is being used by many, but you did not say how big of an 
      axle
      your bearings might take.
      
      
      Gary Boothe
      
      Cool, Ca.
      
      Pietenpol
      
      WW Corvair Conversion
      
      Tail done, Fuselage on gear
      
      (13 ribs down=85)
      
        _____  
      
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ken 
      Chambers
      Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 8:21 AM
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: opinions on ebay motorcycle wheels?
      
      
      Thanks Gary. That's a beautiful setup you have. I have no machining 
      skills
      or tools so I'm trying to figure out a way to do it as simply as 
      possible
      with the split axle gear. 
      
      I wonder if anyone uses solid axles? Heavier, sure, but would it hold 
      up. On
      a motorcycle it's supported on both ends by the fork. 
      
      
      On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 8:03 AM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> 
      wrote:
      
      Ken,
      
      
      You will likely get the usual discussion on the pros & cons of using
      motorcycle wheels, so you will have to make your own decision on that. I
      bought 21=94 Harley Sportster wheels with the bearings replaced to 
      receive 1=94
      axles. I then used Dick Navatril=92s idea of an 1 =BC=94 axle (tube) 
      with
      step-down tubes installed. My step-down tubes run in about 18=94 on each 
      end,
      with the 1=94 OD axle being the last. I had to actually mil this one as 
      it was
      .004=94 over 1=94!
      
      
      =93Wheels 1=94 shows that the Harley hub has 5 pre-drilled and threaded 
      holes
      for the disc brake set up on motorcycles. I match-drilled this layout on 
      my
      drub brake shoe and attached the shoe with a cover disc (=931187=94). 
      
      
      The wheels you are showing have a very interesting spoke attach method, 
      and
      you may be challenged to find a way to attach brakes, either disc or 
      drum. 
      
      
      I am certainly no expert, and mine is not flight-proven. Good luck!!
      
      
      Gary Boothe
      
      Cool, Ca.
      
      Pietenpol
      
      WW Corvair Conversion
      
      Tail done, Fuselage on gear
      
      (13 ribs down=85)
      
        _____  
      
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ken 
      Chambers
      Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 3:59 PM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: opinions on ebay motorcycle wheels?
      
      
      Anyone with motorcycle wheel experience care to offer an opinion on 
      these
      dirt bike wheels? 
      
      Think they'd be strong enough to handle the side loads? Any thoughts on
      attaching brakes? Machining them for a bigger axle? Or could keep the
      existing bearings with a solid axle? 
      
      I've emailed to ask hub width and axle diameter but haven't heard back 
      yet.
      Looks like the hub width is maybe 3 inches?
      
      http://contact.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ShowCoreAskSellerQues
      tio
      n
      <http://contact.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ShowCoreAskSellerQue
      sti
      on&&iid=190248078501&requested=giovannibikes&frm=284&redirect=0&n
      oredirectfa
      q=1&SSPageName=PageAskSellerQuestion_FAQ>
      &&iid=190248078501&requested=giovannibikes&frm=284&redirect=0&nor
      edirectfaq
      1&SSPageName=PageAskSellerQuestion_FAQ
      
      
      -- 
      Ken Chambers
      512-796-1798
      
      
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| Subject:  | sketch might help-- fuselage strips to hold fabric off | 
      of bolts,  hardware
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Fuselage strips | 
      
      
      Excellent, thanks Jack.
      
      "Do not archive"
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=253928#253928
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: sketch might help-- fuselage strips to hold fabric | 
      off of bo
      
      
      Mike,
      That sketch does help. The bottom writing is cut off, but it looks you also used
      1" stringers there. I like Jack's description of the tapering for and aft, and
      with this, I think I have a pretty good idea how to proceed. 
      Thanks again,
      Steve
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=253932#253932
      
      
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| Subject:  | sketch might help-- fuselage strips to hold  fabric | 
      off of bolts,  hardware
      
      Right Steve-- I used 1" stringers on the belly and tapered them at the fire
      wall and tail.  
      I did not (as you can see by this photo) taper the front of the fuselage si
      de stringers--these
      fit flush up against my 1/8" birch plywood firewall.   
      
      This photo shows a bit more. 
      
      Remember those landing gear fittings need to be made LONGER to penetrate th
      at standoff of fabric
      as the original Piets had no fabric stand off or in some cases no fabric on
       the bottom--just plywood. 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: opinions on ebay motorcycle wheels? | 
      
      Thats a sweet setup Gary. Never thought of that. I might be able to make
      something like that work.
      
      For tyhe dirt bike wheels I'm looking at, I've emailed the seller to ask th
      e
      axle diameter but I haven't heard back. Also trying to figure out how wide
      the spoke is, hub to hub.
      
      Speaking of brakes, there is a flange with four holes on one side. You can
      see it in the attached photo
      
      
      On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
      
      >  Ken,
      >
      >
      > I have no machining skills, or tools, either. Attached is a picture of ho
      w
      > I made it happen:  Just figured out a way to chuck the axle to one of my 
      =BD=94
      > drills and used wet-or-dry paper to remove the steel; took about 45 minut
      es
      > ' 1 hour per axle.
      >
      >
      > A solid axle is being used by many, but you did not say how big of an axl
      e
      > your bearings might take.
      >
      >
      > Gary Boothe
      >
      > Cool, Ca.
      >
      > Pietenpol
      >
      > WW Corvair Conversion
      >
      > Tail done, Fuselage on gear
      >
      > (13 ribs down=85)
      >   ------------------------------
      >
      > *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
      > owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Chambers
      > *Sent:* Monday, July 20, 2009 8:21 AM
      > *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      > *Subject:* Re: Pietenpol-List: opinions on ebay motorcycle wheels?
      >
      >
      > Thanks Gary. That's a beautiful setup you have. I have no machining skill
      s
      > or tools so I'm trying to figure out a way to do it as simply as possible
      > with the split axle gear.
      >
      > I wonder if anyone uses solid axles? Heavier, sure, but would it hold up.
      > On a motorcycle it's supported on both ends by the fork.
      >
      >  On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 8:03 AM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net>
      > wrote:
      >
      > Ken,
      >
      >
      > You will likely get the usual discussion on the pros & cons of using
      > motorcycle wheels, so you will have to make your own decision on that. I
      > bought 21=94 Harley Sportster wheels with the bearings replaced to receiv
      e 1=94
      > axles. I then used Dick Navatril=92s idea of an 1 =BC=94 axle (tube) with
      > step-down tubes installed. My step-down tubes run in about 18=94 on each 
      end,
      > with the 1=94 OD axle being the last. I had to actually mil this one as i
      t was
      > .004=94 over 1=94!
      >
      >
      > =93Wheels 1=94 shows that the Harley hub has 5 pre-drilled and threaded h
      oles
      > for the disc brake set up on motorcycles. I match-drilled this layout on 
      my
      > drub brake shoe and attached the shoe with a cover disc (=931187=94).
      >
      >
      > The wheels you are showing have a very interesting spoke attach method, a
      nd
      > you may be challenged to find a way to attach brakes, either disc or drum
      .
      >
      >
      > I am certainly no expert, and mine is not flight-proven. Good luck!!
      >
      >
      > Gary Boothe
      >
      > Cool, Ca.
      >
      > Pietenpol
      >
      > WW Corvair Conversion
      >
      > Tail done, Fuselage on gear
      >
      > (13 ribs down=85)
      >   ------------------------------
      >
      > *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
      > owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Chambers
      > *Sent:* Sunday, July 19, 2009 3:59 PM
      > *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      > *Subject:* Pietenpol-List: opinions on ebay motorcycle wheels?
      >
      >
      > Anyone with motorcycle wheel experience care to offer an opinion on these
      > dirt bike wheels?
      >
      > Think they'd be strong enough to handle the side loads? Any thoughts on
      > attaching brakes? Machining them for a bigger axle? Or could keep the
      > existing bearings with a solid axle?
      >
      > I've emailed to ask hub width and axle diameter but haven't heard back ye
      t.
      > Looks like the hub width is maybe 3 inches?
      >
      >
      > http://contact.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ShowCoreAskSellerQues
      tion&&iid=190248078501&requested=giovannibikes&frm=284&redirect=0&n
      oredirectfaq=1&SSPageName=PageAskSellerQuestion_FAQ
      >
      >
      > --
      > Ken Chambers
      > 512-796-1798
      >
      > * *
      >
      > * *
      >
      > **
      >
      > **
      >
      > **
      >
      > *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List*
      >
      > **
      >
      > **
      >
      > *http://forums.matronics.com*
      >
      > **
      >
      > **
      >
      > *http://www.matronics.com/contribution*
      >
      > * *
      >
      >
      
      
      -- 
      Ken Chambers
      512-796-1798
      
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| Subject:  | opinions on ebay motorcycle wheels? | 
      
      Ken,
      
      
      So there is!! You may be on to something! 
      
      
      Gary Boothe
      
      Cool, Ca.
      
      Pietenpol
      
      WW Corvair Conversion
      
      Tail done, Fuselage on gear
      
      (13 ribs down=85)
      
        _____  
      
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ken 
      Chambers
      Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 11:11 AM
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: opinions on ebay motorcycle wheels?
      
      
      Thats a sweet setup Gary. Never thought of that. I might be able to make
      something like that work. 
      
      For tyhe dirt bike wheels I'm looking at, I've emailed the seller to ask 
      the
      axle diameter but I haven't heard back. Also trying to figure out how 
      wide
      the spoke is, hub to hub. 
      
      Speaking of brakes, there is a flange with four holes on one side. You 
      can
      see it in the attached photo
      
      
      On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> 
      wrote:
      
      Ken,
      
      
      I have no machining skills, or tools, either. Attached is a picture of 
      how I
      made it happen:  Just figured out a way to chuck the axle to one of my 
      =BD=94
      drills and used wet-or-dry paper to remove the steel; took about 45 
      minutes
      ' 1 hour per axle.
      
      
      A solid axle is being used by many, but you did not say how big of an 
      axle
      your bearings might take.
      
      
      Gary Boothe
      
      Cool, Ca.
      
      Pietenpol
      
      WW Corvair Conversion
      
      Tail done, Fuselage on gear
      
      (13 ribs down=85)
      
        _____  
      
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ken 
      Chambers
      Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 8:21 AM
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: opinions on ebay motorcycle wheels?
      
      
      Thanks Gary. That's a beautiful setup you have. I have no machining 
      skills
      or tools so I'm trying to figure out a way to do it as simply as 
      possible
      with the split axle gear. 
      
      I wonder if anyone uses solid axles? Heavier, sure, but would it hold 
      up. On
      a motorcycle it's supported on both ends by the fork. 
      
      On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 8:03 AM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> 
      wrote:
      
      Ken,
      
      
      You will likely get the usual discussion on the pros & cons of using
      motorcycle wheels, so you will have to make your own decision on that. I
      bought 21=94 Harley Sportster wheels with the bearings replaced to 
      receive 1=94
      axles. I then used Dick Navatril=92s idea of an 1 =BC=94 axle (tube) 
      with
      step-down tubes installed. My step-down tubes run in about 18=94 on each 
      end,
      with the 1=94 OD axle being the last. I had to actually mil this one as 
      it was
      .004=94 over 1=94!
      
      
      =93Wheels 1=94 shows that the Harley hub has 5 pre-drilled and threaded 
      holes
      for the disc brake set up on motorcycles. I match-drilled this layout on 
      my
      drub brake shoe and attached the shoe with a cover disc (=931187=94). 
      
      
      The wheels you are showing have a very interesting spoke attach method, 
      and
      you may be challenged to find a way to attach brakes, either disc or 
      drum. 
      
      
      I am certainly no expert, and mine is not flight-proven. Good luck!!
      
      
      Gary Boothe
      
      Cool, Ca.
      
      Pietenpol
      
      WW Corvair Conversion
      
      Tail done, Fuselage on gear
      
      (13 ribs down=85)
      
        _____  
      
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ken 
      Chambers
      Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 3:59 PM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: opinions on ebay motorcycle wheels?
      
      
      Anyone with motorcycle wheel experience care to offer an opinion on 
      these
      dirt bike wheels? 
      
      Think they'd be strong enough to handle the side loads? Any thoughts on
      attaching brakes? Machining them for a bigger axle? Or could keep the
      existing bearings with a solid axle? 
      
      I've emailed to ask hub width and axle diameter but haven't heard back 
      yet.
      Looks like the hub width is maybe 3 inches?
      
      http://contact.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ShowCoreAskSellerQues
      tio
      n
      <http://contact.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ShowCoreAskSellerQue
      sti
      on&&iid=190248078501&requested=giovannibikes&frm=284&redirect=0&n
      oredirectfa
      q=1&SSPageName=PageAskSellerQuestion_FAQ>
      &&iid=190248078501&requested=giovannibikes&frm=284&redirect=0&nor
      edirectfaq
      1&SSPageName=PageAskSellerQuestion_FAQ
      
      
      -- 
      Ken Chambers
      512-796-1798
      
      
      http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
      http://forums.matronics.com
      http://www.matronics.com/contribution
      
      
      -- 
      Ken Chambers
      512-796-1798
      
      
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| Subject:  | McCulloch drone engine | 
      
      
      I need a McCulloch drone engine for a project. If you have one or more for sale
      and/or parts, please contact me. will@cctc.net   Thanks so much.........Will
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=253970#253970
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: opinions on ebay motorcycle wheels? | 
      
      They look like the Chineese made wheels I'am using, I knocked out the 
      bearings and installed bronze bushes with a 1" bore as that was the 
      largest size I could fit through the hub. Not flight proven at this 
      stage.
      Regards Mike T.
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Ken Chambers 
        To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 6:10 AM
        Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: opinions on ebay motorcycle wheels?
      
      
        Thats a sweet setup Gary. Never thought of that. I might be able to 
      make something like that work. 
      
        For tyhe dirt bike wheels I'm looking at, I've emailed the seller to 
      ask the axle diameter but I haven't heard back. Also trying to figure 
      out how wide the spoke is, hub to hub. 
      
        Speaking of brakes, there is a flange with four holes on one side. You 
      can see it in the attached photo
      
      
        On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> 
      wrote:
      
          Ken,
      
      
          I have no machining skills, or tools, either. Attached is a picture 
      of how I made it happen:  Just figured out a way to chuck the axle to 
      one of my =BD=94 drills and used wet-or-dry paper to remove the steel; 
      took about 45 minutes ' 1 hour per axle.
      
      
          A solid axle is being used by many, but you did not say how big of 
      an axle your bearings might take.
      
      
          Gary Boothe
      
          Cool, Ca.
      
          Pietenpol
      
          WW Corvair Conversion
      
          Tail done, Fuselage on gear
      
          (13 ribs down=85)
      
      
      -------------------------------------------------------------------------
      ---
      
          From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com 
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ken 
      Chambers
          Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 8:21 AM
          To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
          Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: opinions on ebay motorcycle wheels?
      
      
          Thanks Gary. That's a beautiful setup you have. I have no machining 
      skills or tools so I'm trying to figure out a way to do it as simply as 
      possible with the split axle gear. 
      
          I wonder if anyone uses solid axles? Heavier, sure, but would it 
      hold up. On a motorcycle it's supported on both ends by the fork. 
      
      
          On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 8:03 AM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> 
      wrote:
      
          Ken,
      
      
          You will likely get the usual discussion on the pros & cons of using 
      motorcycle wheels, so you will have to make your own decision on that. I 
      bought 21=94 Harley Sportster wheels with the bearings replaced to 
      receive 1=94 axles. I then used Dick Navatril=92s idea of an 1 =BC=94 
      axle (tube) with step-down tubes installed. My step-down tubes run in 
      about 18=94 on each end, with the 1=94 OD axle being the last. I had to 
      actually mil this one as it was .004=94 over 1=94!
      
      
          =93Wheels 1=94 shows that the Harley hub has 5 pre-drilled and 
      threaded holes for the disc brake set up on motorcycles. I match-drilled 
      this layout on my drub brake shoe and attached the shoe with a cover 
      disc (=931187=94). 
      
      
          The wheels you are showing have a very interesting spoke attach 
      method, and you may be challenged to find a way to attach brakes, either 
      disc or drum. 
      
      
          I am certainly no expert, and mine is not flight-proven. Good luck!!
      
      
          Gary Boothe
      
          Cool, Ca.
      
          Pietenpol
      
          WW Corvair Conversion
      
          Tail done, Fuselage on gear
      
          (13 ribs down=85)
      
      
      -------------------------------------------------------------------------
      ---
      
          From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com 
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ken 
      Chambers
          Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 3:59 PM
          To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
          Subject: Pietenpol-List: opinions on ebay motorcycle wheels?
      
      
          Anyone with motorcycle wheel experience care to offer an opinion on 
      these dirt bike wheels? 
      
          Think they'd be strong enough to handle the side loads? Any thoughts 
      on attaching brakes? Machining them for a bigger axle? Or could keep the 
      existing bearings with a solid axle? 
      
          I've emailed to ask hub width and axle diameter but haven't heard 
      back yet. Looks like the hub width is maybe 3 inches?
      
          
      http://contact.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ShowCoreAskSellerQues
      tion&&iid=190248078501&requested=giovannibikes&frm=284&redirect=0
      &noredirectfaq=1&SSPageName=PageAskSellerQuestion_FAQ
      
      
          -- 
          Ken Chambers
          512-796-1798
      
      
      http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-Listhttp://forums.matronics.
      comhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution 
      
      
        -- 
        Ken Chambers
        512-796-1798
      
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| Subject:  | Re: McCulloch drone engine | 
      
      
      Will,
      
      Have you been on E-bay under Ebay motors and then under engines, there have 
      been four or five as of late.
      
      Chet
      
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Will42" <will@cctc.net>
      Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 4:17 PM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: McCulloch drone engine
      
      
      >
      > I need a McCulloch drone engine for a project. If you have one or more for 
      > sale and/or parts, please contact me. will@cctc.net   Thanks so 
      > much.........Will
      >
      >
      > Read this topic online here:
      >
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=253970#253970
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: opinions on ebay motorcycle wheels? | 
      
      Guys, we were planing to use wheels like the ones yall
       are discussing.  One thing I noticed during researching
       them is that the Chinese tires had a very low weight
       rating.  There are tires out there that have adequate
       weight ratings that will fit those wheels.  Just be 
      sure to figure that cost into your decision.  We only
       went away from them because I decided to down size m
      y racing efforts and donated two CR500  18 inch wheels
       with 5 inch wide hubs to the cause.  I had the e
      xtra master cylinders and the only thing we need to buy
       are tires and one rotor.
      
      Jeremy in Dallas
      Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: "Mike Tunnicliffe" <zk-owl@clear.net.nz>
      
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: opinions on ebay motorcycle whee
      ls?
      
      
      This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
      
      
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| Subject:  | McCulloch drone engine | 
      
      
      How does one contact you?
      Rob
      
      
      Rob Stapleton, Photojournalist
      Anchorage, AK
      (907) 230-9425
      KL2AN
      Skype:rob.stapleton.jr
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Will42
      Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 1:17 PM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: McCulloch drone engine
      
      
      I need a McCulloch drone engine for a project. If you have one or more
      for sale and/or parts, please contact me. will@cctc.net   Thanks so
      much.........Will
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=253970#253970
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: opinions on ebay motorcycle wheels? | 
      
      Hi, the tyres I,m using are good ones and the tubes are heavy duty, its 
      only the wheels that may not handle much abuse.
      Regards Mike T. 
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: outofthebox50@yahoo.com 
        To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 1:48 PM
        Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: opinions on ebay motorcycle wheels?
      
      
        Guys, we were planing to use wheels like the ones yall are discussing. 
      One thing I noticed during researching them is that the Chinese tires 
      had a very low weight rating. There are tires out there that have 
      adequate weight ratings that will fit those wheels. Just be sure to 
      figure that cost into your decision. We only went away from them because 
      I decided to down size my racing efforts and donated two CR500 18 inch 
      wheels with 5 inch wide hubs to the cause. I had the extra master 
      cylinders and the only thing we need to buy are tires and one rotor.
      
        Jeremy in Dallas 
        Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
      
      
      -------------------------------------------------------------------------
      -----
        From: "Mike Tunnicliffe" 
        Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 10:05:30 +1200
        To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
        Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: opinions on ebay motorcycle wheels?
      
      
        They look like the Chineese made wheels = I'am using,  I knocked 
      out the bearings and installed bronze bushes with a 1" bore as = 
      that  was the largest size I could fit through the hub. Not flight 
      proven at = this  stage.
        Regards Mike T.
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From:  Ken  Chambers 
        To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com=  
        Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 = 6:10  AM
        Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: = opinions on  ebay motorcycle 
      wheels?
      
      
        Thats a sweet setup Gary. Never thought of that. I = might be  
      able to make something like that work. 
      
        For tyhe dirt bike = wheels I'm  looking at, I've emailed the 
      seller to ask the axle diameter but I = haven't  heard back. Also 
      trying to figure out how wide the spoke is, hub to = hub.  
      
        Speaking of brakes, there is a flange with four holes on one = side. 
      You  can see it in the attached photo
      
      
        On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Gary Boothe 
      =<gboothe5@comcast.net> = wrote:
      
          Ken,
      
      
          I have no = machining  skills, or tools, either. Attached is a 
      picture of how I made it  happen:  Just figured out a way to chuck 
      the axle to one of my = =BD=94  drills and used wet-or-dry 
      paper to remove the steel; took about 45 = minutes  =96 1 hour 
      per axle.
      
      
          A solid = axle is  being used by many, but you did not say how 
      big of an axle your = bearings  might take.
      
      
          Gary  Boothe
      
          Cool,  Ca.
      
          Pietenpol
      
          WW = Corvair  Conversion
      
          Tail  done, Fuselage on gear
      
          (13 ribs  down=85)
      
      
      -------------------------------------------------------------------------
      ---
      
          From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com = 
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] =On Behalf Of Ken 
      = Chambers
          Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 = 8:21  AM
          To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
          Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: = opinions  on ebay motorcycle 
      wheels?
      
      
          Thanks Gary. That's a beautiful setup = you have.  I have no 
      machining skills or tools so I'm trying to figure out a = way to 
      do  it as simply as possible with the split axle gear. 
      
          I wonder = if  anyone uses solid axles? Heavier, sure, but 
      would it hold up. On a  motorcycle it's supported on both ends by 
      the fork.  
      
      
          On Mon,  Jul 20, 2009 at 8:03 AM, Gary Boothe 
      <gboothe5@comcast.net> = wrote:
      
          Ken,
      
      
          You will = likely get  the usual discussion on the pros & cons 
      of using motorcycle = wheels, so  you will have to make your own 
      decision on that. I bought 21=94 = Harley  Sportster wheels with 
      the bearings replaced to receive 1=94 axles. I = then used  Dick 
      Navatril=92s idea of an 1 =BC=94 axle (tube) with step-down = 
      tubes installed.  My step-down tubes run in about 18=94 on each 
      end, with the 1=94 OD = axle being  the last. I had to actually 
      mil this one as it was .004=94 over  1=94!
      
      
          =93Wheels = 1=94 shows  that the Harley hub has 5 
      pre-drilled and threaded holes for the = disc brake  set up on 
      motorcycles. I match-drilled this layout on my drub brake = shoe 
      and  attached the shoe with a cover disc (=931187=94). 
      
      
          The = wheels you are  showing have a very interesting spoke 
      attach method, and you may be  challenged to find a way to attach 
      brakes, either disc or drum.  
      
      
          I am = certainly no  expert, and mine is not flight-proven. 
      Good luck!!
      
      
          Gary  Boothe
      
          Cool,  Ca.
      
          Pietenpol
      
          WW = Corvair  Conversion
      
          Tail  done, Fuselage on gear
      
          (13 ribs  down=85)
      
      
      -------------------------------------------------------------------------
      ---
      
          From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com = 
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] =On Behalf Of Ken 
      = Chambers
          Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 = 3:59  PM
          To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
          Subject: Pietenpol-List: = opinions on  ebay motorcycle 
      wheels?
      
      
          Anyone with motorcycle = wheel  experience care to offer an 
      opinion on these dirt bike wheels? 
      
          Think  they'd be strong enough to handle the side loads? Any 
      thoughts on = attaching  brakes? Machining them for a bigger axle? 
      Or could keep the existing = bearings with a solid axle? 
      
          I've emailed to ask hub width = and axle  diameter but haven't 
      heard back yet. Looks like the hub width is = maybe 3  inches?
      
          http://contact.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ShowC= 
      oreAskSellerQuestion&&iid=3D190248078501&requested=3Dgiovanni= 
      bikes&frm=3D284&redirect=3D0&noredirectfaq=3D1&SSPageName= 
      =3DPageAskSellerQuestion_FAQ
      
      
          -- 
          Ken = Chambers
          512-796-1798
      
      
      http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-Listhttp://forums.matronics.
      comhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution 
        <= BR  clear=3Dall>
        -- 
        Ken = Chambers
        512-796-1798
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Finally, work space! | 
      
      That you will. We look forward to meeting you and your new Piet; it will be
      nice to have that motivation of a living, breathing Piet on the field as we
      work on ours. Have a good night,
      
      Ryan
      
      do not archive
      
      On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Dan Yocum <yocum@fnal.gov> wrote:
      
      >
      >
      > Ryan Mueller wrote:
      >
      >> We are very happy to say that we have finally found somewhere we can put
      >> our Piet project! We will be renting the main level of a 125 year old barn
      >> at Olson Airport (private, LL53). Lot's of space, and our Piet will
      >>
      >
      > Hm.  Methinks I need to catch up on the entire backlog of email before
      > replying to older email.  Looks like I'll be flying through your place on a
      > regular basis!
      >
      > :-D
      >
      > Once the insurance hours are flown off, I'll be happy to provide you with
      > "motivational" rides to keep your juices flowing.
      >
      > Cheers,
      > Dan
      >
      > do not archive
      >
      > --
      > Dan Yocum
      > Fermilab  630.840.6509
      > yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
      > Fermilab.  Just zeros and ones.
      >
      
 
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