Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Wed 07/22/09


Total Messages Posted: 21



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     1. 06:42 AM - Flight across America (TOM STINEMETZE)
     2. 06:50 AM - brodhead trip (RBush96589@aol.com)
     3. 07:18 AM - columbus indiana (jb.spiegel@us.schneider-electric.com)
     4. 07:51 AM - Re: brodhead trip (shad bell)
     5. 09:19 AM - Re: N8031: SBP -> OSH Spot track (Gene & Tammy)
     6. 09:33 AM - Re: if flying....be aware of Presidential TFR's and Air Show TFR north of Mitchell Field, Milwaukee (Dan Yocum)
     7. 09:33 AM - Re: N8031: SBP -> OSH Spot track (Dan Yocum)
     8. 09:47 AM - Re: Flight across America (Dan Yocum)
     9. 10:10 AM - Ohio, Piet's to Brodhead (shad bell)
    10. 10:30 AM - Re: brodhead trip (RBush96589@aol.com)
    11. 11:35 AM - Re: brodhead trip (Dan Yocum)
    12. 11:40 AM - Re: Flight across America (TOM STINEMETZE)
    13. 11:43 AM - Re: Ohio, Piet's to Brodhead (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
    14. 12:44 PM - Re: brodhead trip (Jeff Boatright)
    15. 12:51 PM - Re: brodhead trip (RBush96589@aol.com)
    16. 01:23 PM - Re: brodhead trip (Dan Yocum)
    17. 01:23 PM - Re: Flight across America (Dan Yocum)
    18. 01:52 PM - Wire Wheel Info - Flitzer Group (Wayne Bressler)
    19. 04:23 PM - Re: Ohio, Piet's to Brodhead (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation])
    20. 04:26 PM - Re: Wire Wheel Info - Flitzer Group (Will42)
    21. 07:32 PM - Re: Ohio, Piet's to Brodhead (Don Emch)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:42:49 AM PST US
    From: "TOM STINEMETZE" <TOMS@mcpcity.com>
    Subject: Flight across America
    I have really enjoyed visiting the SPOT page and keeping up on the progress Tres is making across the country. It's almost like making the flight with him. Looks like he is up and running again this morning cross beautiful (but HOT) Texas. Does anybody have any information about the specifics of his Pietenpol? Thanks Stinemetze McPherson, KS


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    Time: 06:50:38 AM PST US
    From: RBush96589@aol.com
    Subject: brodhead trip
    Hey Jeff Boatright, I noticed your name on the tentative list for Brodhead and you are from Georgia. If your route takes you up through west TN or southern IL tomorrow I would enjoy the company on the flight up. I am planning on leaving early tomorrow morning . If your interested give me a call 731 267 0578. Randy Bush NX294RB do not archive **************What's for dinner tonight? Find quick and easy dinner ideas for any occasion. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?ncid=emlcntusfood00000009)


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    Time: 07:18:22 AM PST US
    Subject: columbus indiana
    From: jb.spiegel@us.schneider-electric.com
    I meant to ask this when I got back from vacation, Was anyone on this list by chance flying a Piet, over Columbus Indiana on July 3rd at 10:09 am. we were gassing up the Bike and I saw one fly over the station. Jake


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    Time: 07:51:09 AM PST US
    From: shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: brodhead trip
    Randy, What time do you think you will reach the chicago area? I planned on making a fuel stop at Joliet, but there is a TFR for president oblama, starting at 16:00CDT and JOT is right on the border of the no fly zone. I am planning on being there around 1200-1300 CDT. I would love to fly on into Brodhead with you, a couple of Corvair Piets will make some new noise. My last planned stop is Poplar Grove to top off before Brodhead, only 34 miles for the last leg. Shad


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    Time: 09:19:55 AM PST US
    From: "Gene & Tammy" <zharvey@bentoncountycable.net>
    Subject: Re: N8031: SBP -> OSH Spot track
    Dan, Can you contact Tres and find out if he is going to come up thru Tennessee? Randy Bush is leaving out of Jackson, Tn (about 100 miles East of Memphis) either this evening or tomorrow morning in his Piet. It would be great if he could hook up with him. Randy"s phone # is 731-267-0578. Thanks Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Yocum" <yocum@fnal.gov> Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 12:19 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: N8031: SBP -> OSH Spot track > > This is somewhat off-topic, but I think it's pretty cool. > > Tres Clements is flying his (soon-to-be mine) Pietenpol N8031 from San > Luis Obispo to OSH. He and a friend left yesterday and are winging > their way eastward. Here's the Spot track of the route they're taking: > > http://share.findmespot.com/shared/faces/viewspots.jsp?glId=0XeQYjmJLJJpESJ4WgdjS2W9eSMQUx0Ql > > Me, I'm just plain tickled pink to see it finally on it's way! > > Cheers, > Dan > > -- > Dan Yocum > Fermilab 630.840.6509 > yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov > Fermilab. Just zeros and ones. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 06:07:00


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    Time: 09:33:15 AM PST US
    From: Dan Yocum <yocum@fnal.gov>
    Subject: Re: if flying....be aware of Presidential TFR's and
    Air Show TFR north of Mitchell Field, Milwaukee Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation] wrote: > > > > For anyone transiting thru the Cleveland Class B airspace on Thursday-- beware that President Obama's visit has a TFR going > into effect at 11:50 AM thru 5:00 pm. > > Coincidentally, another TFR goes into effect at 5 pm EDT for CHICAGO.....until later that same evening. (again, President Obama) > > Also take note that just north of Milwaukee (if you're flying up the shoreline of Lake Michigan to Oshkosh) there is a Thursday thru Sunday > TFR north of Mitchell Field for both daytime and night time performances/air show routines. Check out all TFR's at your favorite web > site or the FAA site: > > http://tfr.faa.gov/tfr2/list.html I was pleasantly surprised to discover that the TFRs are displayed on http://www.runwayfinder.com. Click on the little "thought" balloon on the top of the yellow or red circles to get the details of the TFRs. Dan -- Dan Yocum Fermilab 630.840.6509 yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov Fermilab. Just zeros and ones.


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    Time: 09:33:41 AM PST US
    From: Dan Yocum <yocum@fnal.gov>
    Subject: Re: N8031: SBP -> OSH Spot track
    Hey Gene, Sorry I missed your call, was just stepping back in my office and tried to pick up the phone but it had already rolled over to voicemail. Tres is heading for Dayton, OH to be in the Airventure Cup - and possibly be the Grand Marshal of the thing. Is Randy interested in "racing" his plane to OSH from Dayton? Dan Gene & Tammy wrote: > <zharvey@bentoncountycable.net> > > Dan, > Can you contact Tres and find out if he is going to come up thru > Tennessee? Randy Bush is leaving out of Jackson, Tn (about 100 miles > East of Memphis) either this evening or tomorrow morning in his Piet. > It would be great if he could hook up with him. Randy"s phone # is > 731-267-0578. > Thanks > Gene > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Yocum" <yocum@fnal.gov> > To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 12:19 PM > Subject: Pietenpol-List: N8031: SBP -> OSH Spot track > > >> >> This is somewhat off-topic, but I think it's pretty cool. >> >> Tres Clements is flying his (soon-to-be mine) Pietenpol N8031 from San >> Luis Obispo to OSH. He and a friend left yesterday and are winging >> their way eastward. Here's the Spot track of the route they're taking: >> >> http://share.findmespot.com/shared/faces/viewspots.jsp?glId=0XeQYjmJLJJpESJ4WgdjS2W9eSMQUx0Ql >> >> >> Me, I'm just plain tickled pink to see it finally on it's way! >> >> Cheers, >> Dan >> >> -- >> Dan Yocum >> Fermilab 630.840.6509 >> yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov >> Fermilab. Just zeros and ones. >> >> >> >> >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > 06:07:00 > > > > > -- Dan Yocum Fermilab 630.840.6509 yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov Fermilab. Just zeros and ones.


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    Time: 09:47:34 AM PST US
    From: Dan Yocum <yocum@fnal.gov>
    Subject: Re: Flight across America
    Hi Tom, TOM STINEMETZE wrote: > *I have really enjoyed visiting the SPOT page and keeping up on the > progress Tres is making across the country. It's almost like making the > flight with him. Looks like he is up and running again this morning > cross beautiful (but HOT) Texas. Does anybody have any information Yep. They stayed over at Dick Keyt's place outside Fort Worth while the weather moved through. Dick flys the Polen Special race plane. Apparently they tinkered around on Dick's plane the last couple of days and now they're headed to Dayton. > about the specifics of his Pietenpol?* I know a few, but not nearly all, of the specifics since I'm about to be the new owner of the plane. It was built in '79, it has a ~350 SMOH, ~750 TTE A-65 engine, cub-style landing gear, 3 piece wing, standard airfoil, covered in Stits and dope, and a gross weight of 1200lbs. Other than that it's a Pietenpol (ok, with the A-65 it's not "technically" a Bernard designed Pietenpol, but c'mon...). What else do you want to know? Cheers, Dan -- Dan Yocum Fermilab 630.840.6509 yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov Fermilab. Just zeros and ones.


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    Time: 10:10:48 AM PST US
    From: shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Ohio, Piet's to Brodhead
    How many Ohio area piets are heading for Brodhead? The weather doesn't look real promising for an early am thurs departure for me. If this rain clears up before sun up, and doesn't fog me in I should be OK. If I can get into Indiana, the forecast looks good for the rest of the trip up. Mike C., Don E. ,are you planning on flying up tommorow? I looked up the TFR's and it looks like as long as I stay south of Joliet, and west of Aroura IL, I will be well clear of mig ally. Hoping for drier weathertommorow, Shad


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    Time: 10:30:26 AM PST US
    From: RBush96589@aol.com
    Subject: Re: brodhead trip
    Hi Shad, I am not really going to be very close to the chicago area.My route is Mayfield Ky (m25),Centralia IL(enl),Lincoln IL(aaa) and last stop either Hartenbower(2v3) or IL valley reg(vys). My dad is hauling 11 gal of gas up in the camper so I can top off at brodhead I should be around IL valley about 2 or 3 oclock.give me a call if you want to try to get together some where up there. 731 267 0578 Randy Bush do not archive **************What's for dinner tonight? Find quick and easy dinner ideas for any occasion. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?ncid=emlcntusfood00000009)


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    Time: 11:35:20 AM PST US
    From: Dan Yocum <yocum@fnal.gov>
    Subject: Re: brodhead trip
    Hi Randy, RBush96589@aol.com wrote: > Hi Shad, > I am not really going to be very close to the chicago area.My > route is Mayfield Ky (m25),Centralia IL(enl),Lincoln IL(aaa) and last > stop either Hartenbower(2v3) or IL valley reg(vys). My dad is hauling 11 > gal of gas up in the camper so I can top off at brodhead I should be > around IL valley about 2 or 3 oclock.give me a call if you want to try > to get together some where up there. 731 267 0578 What? No racing in the Airventure Cup from Dayton to OSH? I'm joking of course. ;-) Safe flight! Cheers, Dan -- Dan Yocum Fermilab 630.840.6509 yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov Fermilab. Just zeros and ones.


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    Time: 11:40:23 AM PST US
    From: "TOM STINEMETZE" <TOMS@mcpcity.com>
    Subject: Re: Flight across America
    Greetings Dan: Thanks for the info. I am just looking ahead to when my Corvair powered Piet is completed and available for some leisurely cross country time. My two sons live in Mojave, CA so the trip from McPherson, KS to there would not be so much different than the trip Tres is currently undertaking. The boys regularly fly their Long EZ's to and from home but they cross the mountains on oxygen at 14,000'+ which, I will assume, is not going to be possible in the Piet. Therefore it was with interest that I watched Tres skirt the South end of the mountain range prior to the long Northward haul towards Wisconsin. I will probably have to do the same or else "drive" on the interstate up over the tall ground. Has anyone on the list tried the I-40 route through Albuquerque and Flagstaff to know if the Pietenpol can "get 'er done?" Tom Stinemetze N328X >>>What else do you want to know? >>>Cheers, >>>Dan


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    Time: 11:43:03 AM PST US
    From: AMsafetyC@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Ohio, Piet's to Brodhead
    For what its worth an unofficial quick visual: Chicago sky's have improved since morning with overcast and clearing to broken and better, looked like high level cumulus with good viz John **************What's for dinner tonight? Find quick and easy dinner ideas for any occasion. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?ncid=emlcntusfood00000009)


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    Time: 12:44:12 PM PST US
    From: Jeff Boatright <jboatri@emory.edu>
    Subject: Re: brodhead trip
    Randy, Wish I was flying the Piet up, but we're having carb problems. I will be going commercial, so see you there! Jeff At 9:48 AM -0400 7/22/09, RBush96589@aol.com wrote: >Hey Jeff Boatright, > I noticed your name on the tentative list for Brodhead and you >are from Georgia. If your route takes you up through west TN or >southern IL tomorrow I would enjoy the company on the flight up. I >am planning on leaving early tomorrow morning . If your interested >give me a call 731 267 0578. > > > >Randy Bush > > NX294RB >do not archive -- --- Jeffrey H. Boatright, Ph.D. Associate Professor of Ophthalmology Emory University School of Medicine Editor-in-Chief Molecular Vision


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    Time: 12:51:19 PM PST US
    From: RBush96589@aol.com
    Subject: Re: brodhead trip
    Hi Dan, No I think I will pass on the racing,but thanks for the safe flight wishes.hope to see you at Brodhead if you are going. Randy Bush **************What's for dinner tonight? Find quick and easy dinner ideas for any occasion. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?ncid=emlcntusfood00000009)


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    Time: 01:23:49 PM PST US
    From: Dan Yocum <yocum@fnal.gov>
    Subject: Re: brodhead trip
    RBush96589@aol.com wrote: > Hi Dan, > No I think I will pass on the racing,but thanks for the safe flight > wishes.hope to see you at Brodhead if you are going. I'll be there on Friday, so see you then. Dan do not archive -- Dan Yocum Fermilab 630.840.6509 yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov Fermilab. Just zeros and ones.


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    Time: 01:23:49 PM PST US
    From: Dan Yocum <yocum@fnal.gov>
    Subject: Re: Flight across America
    Hi Tom, Sounds like a fun trip. When I talked to Tres the other night he did say that he did not enjoy flying at near gross at 7000 density altitude. He said that the only way to really get any sort of measurable rate of climb was to use the thermals. D'oh! Of course, with 110HP you should have better performance than a plane with an A-65. Cheers, Dan -- Dan Yocum Fermilab 630.840.6509 yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov Fermilab. Just zeros and ones.


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    Time: 01:52:41 PM PST US
    From: Wayne Bressler <wayne@taildraggersinc.com>
    Subject: Wire Wheel Info - Flitzer Group
    Here is some info that may be of interest to you fellows looking into wire wheels. It comes from a post on the Corben Aces group. Enjoy, -Wayne "Gentleman, A few years back, there was an astonishing amount of research on this subject, which was accomplished by a number of members of the "Flitzer" group. The quest was an affordable solution for a structurally sound, functional and light weight wheel and tire combination, that would appropriately enhance the post 1920's aesthetics of the "Flitzer" aircraft series, as magnificently designed and engineered by Lynn Williams in the U.K. I would highly recommend, that any constructor of a "Period" look aircraft, visit the Flitzer Sportflug Verein (Flitzer Sport Flying Association) site at http://www.flitzerbiplane.com - . There is no fee for joining the group and membership will give you access to all the postings, regarding, among other things, the wire wheels, tires and the amazing brake system, designed, manufactured and available from Ian Wasey, also in the U.K.. Also discussed in detail are tools, fabric and covering systems, engines (STC typed,VW conversions, COvair conversions, etc,), and about everything it takes to build an aircraft. The "Flitzer" group is one of , if not the most dedicated and unusual groups that I have encountered in my 40+ years in aviation. The wealth of knowledge, plus the willingness to share that knowledge, is extraordinary, as you will discover, as construction issues are resolved within the group. Blake Palmer in Texas, is the "Webmeister" and site administrator, and has done an outstanding job of maintaining and archiving all of the data, email and photos for the group. Again, I cannot stress how beneficial this sight can be to your projects. By the way, my interest in the Corben goes back to the early 70's. My dear friend, Capt. Richard Anger (EAL), and was aka at the Flying Circus Aerodrome in Bealton, Virginia. as the dastardly and nefarious "Black Baron", would perform an amazing act in his Corben. It was of course, a comedy routine, which was one of the audiences most popular acts at the FCA. The Corben was modified to "resemble" a Fokker D- VII, elephant ears and all. The crowds loved it!! Dick did not baby that Corben, and it just flew and flew. We members of the Circus, gained a great respect for the Corben. We often joked that Dick "couldn't break it" and that his A/C gave him the most "bang for the buck"!! After Dick's passing, his son, Tony Anger, carried on the "Black Baron" tradition at the CIrcus for a few years. I noticed in a posting awhile back, that a member of the Corben group, was in the process of restoring Dick's old Corben. All I can say to the new owner, is that you got a hell of a good airplane, with a great history, and that I am sure you will have hundreds of happy flying hours in the old girl!! Regards and Happy Landings, Steve Hoffmann Flying Circus AIrshows, Inc. (retired) Barnstormers Airshows, Inc. (retired) Now retired in St. Petersburg, Fl." Wayne Bressler Jr. Taildraggers, Inc. taildraggersinc.com


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    Time: 04:23:35 PM PST US
    From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
    Subject: Ohio, Piet's to Brodhead
    Shad-- the way it looks now the weather won't allow me to depart Thursday AM as planned, then Obama comes in shutting down the airspace for me for 5 hours until 5 pm. I'm hoping for a Friday AM departure at this point. Hope you get out Thursday AM. You've got a better chance being south and west-- were the clearing is coming from !


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    Time: 04:26:57 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Wire Wheel Info - Flitzer Group
    From: "Will42" <will@cctc.net>
    Thanks for sharing this; there's lots of information there. Will Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=254407#254407


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    Time: 07:32:56 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Ohio, Piet's to Brodhead
    From: "Don Emch" <EmchAir@aol.com>
    Hey Shad and Mike, The rain doesn't look real good. I'm hoping for an "after lunch" departure tomorrow. I'd like to try to get into Indiana anyway. I think you'll be cleared before me. You may get quite a bit ahead of me, but if you can, try to keep in touch. My cell number is (330) 429-5265. Maybe I can catch up to you at some point. Have a great flight! Don E. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=254438#254438




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