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1. 04:27 AM - More Video from Brodhead...Piets Taxiing, etc. (Jim Markle)
2. 05:46 AM - Orange and blue corvair powered Piet at Brodhead (TOM MICHELLE BRANT)
3. 06:19 AM - Re: A question for Hans van der Voort (hvandervoo@aol.com)
4. 06:29 AM - Re: A question for Hans van der Voort (Gary Boothe)
5. 06:42 AM - Re: Piet issue at Wittman Field???? (Pieti Lowell)
6. 07:43 AM - Re: Piet issue at Wittman Field???? (TOM STINEMETZE)
7. 08:16 AM - Thanks (Lagowski Morrow)
8. 08:25 AM - Re: Re: Piet issue at Wittman Field???? (Gary Boothe)
9. 09:19 AM - Re: A question for Hans van der Voort (hvandervoo@aol.com)
10. 09:28 AM - Re: A question for Hans van der Voort (Gary Boothe)
11. 09:48 AM - Re: Re: Piet issue at Wittman Field???? (Ryan Mueller)
12. 10:16 AM - Re: Orange and blue corvair powered Piet at Brodhead (Ryan Mueller)
13. 10:40 AM - Re: Flying Piets in CA??yes (Mark Roberts)
14. 10:51 AM - Re: A question for Hans van der Voort (hvandervoo@aol.com)
15. 11:11 AM - Re: A question for Hans van der Voort (Gary Boothe)
16. 12:10 PM - Re: A question for Hans van der Voort (hvandervoo@aol.com)
17. 02:24 PM - Re: Re: Piet issue at Wittman Field???? (TOM STINEMETZE)
18. 02:41 PM - Re: scout fuselage (Will42)
19. 03:49 PM - Rib jig (Michael McGowan)
20. 06:38 PM - Re: Re: scout fuselage (VAHOWDY@aol.com)
21. 07:42 PM - Re: Rib jig (K5YAC)
22. 09:42 PM - Re: Flying Piets in CA?great (jorge lizarraga)
23. 10:13 PM - Re: Flying Piets in CA?great (Mark Roberts)
24. 11:40 PM - Re: Re: scout fuselage (Clif Dawson)
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Subject: | More Video from Brodhead...Piets Taxiing, etc. |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jT4B0hp314Q
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Subject: | Orange and blue corvair powered Piet at Brodhead |
I believe the orange and blue corvair powered Piet belonged to Gary Bell??
? Great airplane. I'm wondering how the intake was plumbed - it looked li
ke it was over the top of the engine - must have had a catch pan for floodi
ng of carb? Which carb was used? I liked the simple installation.
Tom B.
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Subject: | Re: A question for Hans van der Voort |
John,
I use a Zenith carburetor, model 1821 in the Great Plains Catalog, page 42.
Corvair installation is doing great.
Brodhead will be done in the future, I simply do not have enough vacation days
to do the trip.
best regards
Hans
-----Original Message-----
From: John Fay <jfay1950@gmail.com>
Sent: Mon, Jul 27, 2009 8:57 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: A question for Hans van der Voort
Hans,
?
What carbureter do you have on your Corvair, and how has your Corvair installation
been working?
?
I hope you'll be able to get your plane to Brodhead sometime.? I look forward to
seeing it in person.
?
John Fay
in Peoria
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Subject: | A question for Hans van der Voort |
Hans,
Have you run that engine / carb setup yet? I definitely like the price!!
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(13 ribs down.)
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Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A question for Hans van der Voort
John,
I use a Zenith carburetor, model 1821 in the Great Plains Catalog, page 42.
Corvair installation is doing great.
Brodhead will be done in the future, I simply do not have enough vacation
days to do the trip.
best regards
Hans
-----Original Message-----
From: John Fay <jfay1950@gmail.com>
Sent: Mon, Jul 27, 2009 8:57 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: A question for Hans van der Voort
Hans,
What carbureter do you have on your Corvair, and how has your Corvair
installation been working?
I hope you'll be able to get your plane to Brodhead sometime. I look
forward to seeing it in person.
John Fay
in Peoria
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Subject: | Re: Piet issue at Wittman Field???? |
Hi Guys, Don't blame the 612, the 20 deg crab to West for the full 2/3 length of
36L at 12" off the deck, touching a couple times only to give the Piets behind
me more room. I planted the left wheel hard on the big red circle, on the center
of the run way, when GOD sent that blast from the WEST & MY RIGHT WHEEL
WAS sent 12" from the edge of the runway, That entire width has got to be close
to 300 or 200 feet wide, My forward distance from the red spot was 100 Ft and
to the East 100 Ft. The 612 took a 4 G stress and only just nicked the tip.
The prop took most of the impact.
Can some person please tell me why Ken Perkins new tail wheel that I just installed
showed a slight bend in the downward direction after this show stopper. If
the tail was hit hard it should have a bend upward.
Thanks all for your kind considerations, All joints still work and not one sore
spot this morning.
And thank you for those that attended my Form, will do better next time.
Pieti Lowell
Update at 11:43am... just saw the pientenpol being towed by the tail off the runway.
36L should reopen soon. Hmmm.... did the tailwheel collapse, instead of
the main? Mains looked fine on the webcam.[/quote]
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=254989#254989
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Subject: | Re: Piet issue at Wittman Field???? |
>>> "Pieti Lowell" <Lowellcfrank@yahoo.com> 7/28/2009 8:40 AM >>>
m>
Can some person please tell me why Ken Perkins new tail wheel that I just
installed showed a slight bend in the downward direction after this show
stopper. If the tail was hit hard it should have a bend upward.
Pieti:
Attached is a photo of my Ken Perkins tailwheel assembly. If the
attachment is not there the same photo is available on my build site at:
http://www.eaa1344.com/images/Stinemetze/Gear/Tailwheel.jpg It appears
that a hard hit might totally compress the spring before the steering
assembly bottomed out on the fuselage. If so, then continued pressure
from the wheel would cause the frame to kink up causing the back end of
the assembly to bend down. Does that sound plausible?
Tom Stinemetze
McPherson, KS.
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Thanks to you all for your Brodhead reports and videos. Much
appreciated. I missed the event between N.W. Michigan and Lake Michigan
weather and my wife's medical situation. --Jim Lagowski
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Subject: | Re: Piet issue at Wittman Field???? |
Sounds plausible. There may be some evidence on the fuselage of the steering
mech bottoming out. That would take a pretty hard hit to bend the struts.
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(13 ribs down.)
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STINEMETZE
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 7:15 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Piet issue at Wittman Field????
>>> "Pieti Lowell" <Lowellcfrank@yahoo.com> 7/28/2009 8:40 AM >>>
<Lowellcfrank@yahoo.com>
Can some person please tell me why Ken Perkins new tail wheel that I just
installed showed a slight bend in the downward direction after this show
stopper. If the tail was hit hard it should have a bend upward.
Pieti:
Attached is a photo of my Ken Perkins tailwheel assembly. If the attachment
is not there the same photo is available on my build site at:
http://www.eaa1344.com/images/Stinemetze/Gear/Tailwheel.jpg It appears
that a hard hit might totally compress the spring before the steering
assembly bottomed out on the fuselage. If so, then continued pressure from
the wheel would cause the frame to kink up causing the back end of the
assembly to bend down. Does that sound plausible?
Tom Stinemetze
McPherson, KS.
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Subject: | Re: A question for Hans van der Voort |
Gary,
Been flying it since August of '05
Hans
-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net>
Sent: Tue, Jul 28, 2009 8:28 am
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: A question for Hans van der Voort
Hans,
=C2-
Have you run that engine / carb setup yet? I definitely like the price!!
=C2-
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done,=C2-Fuselage=C2-on gear
(13 ribs down)
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Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 6:18 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A question for Hans van der Voort
=C2-
John,
I use a Zenith carburetor, model 1821 in the Great Plains Catalog, page 42
.
Corvair installation is doing great.
Brodhead will be done in the future, I simply do not have enough vacation
days to do the trip.
best regards
Hans
-----Original Message-----
From: John Fay <jfay1950@gmail.com>
Sent: Mon, Jul 27, 2009 8:57 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: A question for Hans van der Voort
Hans,
=C2-
What carbureter do you have on your Corvair, and how has your Corvair inst
allation been working?
=C2-
I hope you'll be able to get your plane to Brodhead sometime.=C2- I look
forward to seeing it in person.
=C2-
John Fay
in Peoria
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Subject: | A question for Hans van der Voort |
Hans,
Guess I'm a little behind the power curve..
What can you say about carb ice with the Zenith?
Gary
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Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 9:14 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A question for Hans van der Voort
Gary,
Been flying it since August of '05
Hans
-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net>
Sent: Tue, Jul 28, 2009 8:28 am
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: A question for Hans van der Voort
Hans,
Have you run that engine / carb setup yet? I definitely like the price!!
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(13 ribs down.)
_____
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Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 6:18 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A question for Hans van der Voort
John,
I use a Zenith carburetor, model 1821 in the Great Plains Catalog, page 42.
Corvair installation is doing great.
Brodhead will be done=2 0in the future, I simply do not have enough vacation
days to do the trip.
best regards
Hans
-----Original Message-----
From: John Fay < <mailto:jfay1950@gmail.com> jfay1950@gmail.com>
Sent: Mon, Jul 27, 2009 8:57 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: A question for Hans van der Voort
Hans,
What carbureter do you have on your Corvair, and how has your Corvair
installation been working?
I hope you'll be able to get your plane to Brodhead sometime. I look
forward to seeing it in person.
John Fay
in Peoria
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Subject: | Re: Piet issue at Wittman Field???? |
Tom,
I can't seem to find my parts/price list from Ken Perkins. Do you
happen to still have his mailing address, and the price for the
tailwheel assy?
Ryan
Do not archive
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On Jul 28, 2009, at 9:14 AM, "TOM STINEMETZE" <TOMS@mcpcity.com> wrote:
> >>> "Pieti Lowell" <Lowellcfrank@yahoo.com> 7/28/2009 8:40 AM >>>
> >
>
> Can some person please tell me why Ken Perkins new tail wheel that I
> just installed showed a slight bend in the downward direction after
> this show stopper. If the tail was hit hard it should have a bend
> upward.
> Pieti:
>
> Attached is a photo of my Ken Perkins tailwheel assembly. If the
> attachment is not there the same photo is available on my build site
> at: http://www.eaa1344.com/images/Stinemetze/Gear/Tailwheel.jpg It
> appears that a hard hit might totally compress the spring before the
> steering assembly bottomed out on the fuselage. If so, then
> continued pressure from the wheel would cause the frame to kink up
> causing the back end of the assembly to bend down. Does that sound
> plausible?
>
> Tom Stinemetze
> McPherson, KS.
> <Tailwheel.jpg>
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Subject: | Re: Orange and blue corvair powered Piet at Brodhead |
Tom
That is indeed Gary and Shad's Piet. Here is a shot of the engine from
Brodhead '08 that shows the intake:
http://www.westcoastpiet.com/images/Gary%20Bell/Brodhead2008_045.JPG
The carb is at the bottom of the engine. I'm not 100% sure, but I think it's
an aircraft carb; most likely either a Stromberg NAS3 or a Marvel MA3-SPA.
The intake is based off of the Pietenpol designed intake. Again, if my
memory serves me correctly, they had a Vi Kapler built Pietenpol 'oil bath'
style intake on it originally, but had issues with some joints failing
(brazed, not welded). That led to the fabrication of a new intake without
the 'oil bath', which would be the one you see in the pic.
Ryan
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 7:44 AM, TOM MICHELLE BRANT <tmbrant@msn.com> wrote:
> I believe the orange and blue corvair powered Piet belonged to Gary
> Bell??? Great airplane. I'm wondering how the intake was plumbed - it
> looked like it was over the top of the engine - must have had a catch pan
> for flooding of carb? Which carb was used? I liked the simple
> installation.
>
>
> Tom B.
>
> **
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Flying Piets in CA??yes |
Thank you Jorge!!
I will drop George an email... I plan to attend the Sacramento gathering,
and hope to meet you there! Perhaps George can make it as well...
I am occasionally in Hanford, so perhaps I can meet you sometime and see
your Piet too!
Mark
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 10:46 PM, jorge lizarraga <flightwood@yahoo.com>wrote:
>
> hi IM Jorge livin in hanfor and build one piet another person in tulery
> build to but george benson have a old flyable piet in wood lake and senyou
> his mail to ba.flyer@hotmail.com...
> --- On *Mon, 7/27/09, Mark Roberts <mark.rbrts1@gmail.com>* wrote:you have
> one fly or building one to tanks for you note
>
>
> From: Mark Roberts <mark.rbrts1@gmail.com>
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Flying Piets in CA??
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Date: Monday, July 27, 2009, 11:45 AM
>
> Hey guys:
> I'd like to see if I can connect with any flying Piets in California... I'm
> in the central part of the state (Fresno) and looking to see if there is
> anything flying close enough to drive to...
>
> Thanks!
>
> Mark
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Subject: | Re: A question for Hans van der Voort |
Gary,
Like any carb you can get carb ice, just use carb heat when needed.
I have been lucky sofar and have not experienced carb ice with this setup.
Despite flying in the often humid area around Houston.
BR
Hans
-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net>
Sent: Tue, Jul 28, 2009 11:26 am
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: A question for Hans van der Voort
Hans,
=C2-
Guess I=99m a little behind the power curve.
=C2-
What can you say about carb ice with the Zenith?
=C2-
Gary
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st-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of hvandervoo@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 9:14 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A question for Hans van der Voort
=C2-
Gary,
Been flying it since August of '05
Hans
-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net>
Sent: Tue, Jul 28, 2009 8:28 am
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: A question for Hans van der Voort
Hans,
=C2-
Have you run that engine / carb setup yet? I definitely like the price!!
=C2-
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done,=C2-Fuselage=C2-on gear
(13 ribs down)
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Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 6:18 AM
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Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A question for Hans van der Voort
=C2-
John,
I use a Zenith carburetor, model 1821 in the Great Plains Catalog, page 42
.
Corvair installation is doing great.
Brodhead will be done=2 0in the future, I simply do not have enough vaca
tion days to do the trip.
best regards
Hans
-----Original Message-----
From: John Fay <jfay1950@gmail.com>
Sent: Mon, Jul 27, 2009 8:57 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: A question for Hans van der Voort
Hans,
=C2-
What carbureter do you have on your Corvair, and how has your Corvair inst
allation been working?
=C2-
I hope you'll be able to get your plane to Brodhead sometime.=C2- I look
forward to seeing it in person.
=C2-
John Fay
in Peoria
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Subject: | A question for Hans van der Voort |
Thanks for the input, Hans. I'm sold! Do you have any installation
recommendations?
One further question: Is that a WW Corvair?
Gary
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Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A question for Hans van der Voort
Gary,
Like any carb you can get carb ice, just use carb heat when needed.
I have been lucky sofar and have not experienced carb ice with this setup.
Despite flying in the often humid area around Houston.
BR
Hans
-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net>
Sent: Tue, Jul 28, 2009 11:26 am
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: A question for Hans van der Voort
Hans,
Guess I'm a little behind the power curve..
What can you say about carb ice with the Zenith?
Gary
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Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A question for Hans van der Voort
Gary,
Been flying it since August of '05
Hans
-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net>
Sent: Tue, Jul 28, 2009 8:28 am
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: A question for Hans van der Voort
Hans,
Have you run that engine / carb setup yet? I definitely like the price!!
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(13 ribs down.)
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John,
I use a Zenith carburetor, model 1821 in the Great Plains Catalog, page 42.
Corvair installation is doing great.
Brodhead will be done=2 0in the future, I simply do not have enough vacation
days to do the trip.
best regards
Hans
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Hans,
What carbureter do you have on your Corvair, and how has your Corvair
installation been working?
I hope you'll be able to get your plane to Brodhead sometime. I look
forward to seeing it in person.
John Fay
in Peoria
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Gary,
It is installed just like the WW installs his Carbs
I used WW's manual and parts when making this a Flight engine
Hans
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Sent: Tue, Jul 28, 2009 1:10 pm
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Thanks for the input, Hans. I=99m sold! Do you have any installation
recommendations?
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One further question:=C2- Is that a WW Corvair?
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Gary,
Like any carb you can get carb ice, just use carb heat when needed.
I have been lucky sofar and have not experienced carb ice with this setup.
Despite flying in the often humid area around Houston.
BR
Hans
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Sent: Tue, Jul 28, 2009 11:26 am
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Hans,
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Guess I=99m a little behind the power curve.
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What can you say about carb ice with the Zenith?
=C2-
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Gary,
Been flying it since August of '05
Hans
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Hans,
=C2-
Have you run that engine / carb setup yet? I definitely like the price!!
=C2-
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done,=C2-Fuselage=C2-on gear
(13 ribs down)
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=C2-
John,
I use a Zenith carburetor, model 1821 in the Great Plains Catalog, page 42
.
Corvair installation is doing great.
Brodhead will be done=2 0in the future, I simply do not have enough vaca
tion days to do the trip.
best regards
Hans
-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Mon, Jul 27, 2009 8:57 pm
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Hans,
=C2-
What carbureter do you have on your Corvair, and how has your Corvair20ins
tallation been working?
=C2-
I hope you'll be able to get your plane to Brodhead sometime.=C2- I look
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Subject: | Re: Piet issue at Wittman Field???? |
Ryan:
When I get home this evening I will look it up and e-mail you.
Tom
>>> Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com> 7/28/2009 11:44 AM >>>
Tom,
I can't seem to find my parts/price list from Ken Perkins. Do you happen
to still have his mailing address, and the price for the tailwheel assy?
Ryan
Do not archive
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Subject: | Re: scout fuselage |
[quote="ciuro"]Go by the over all length.
So where would you add the six inches?????????????
I added all the station dimensions to see what matched. Everything except the very
bottom/last layout added up to the 147 3/4" ; the one drawing showing the
plywood bottom adds up to 147 3/4" on the top figures and 153 3/4" on the bottom
figures.
I don't see how you could go anyway except the station dimensions; otherwise the
design stresses would all be off.
Don't think that this is a rare case of mistake; aircraft drawings/blueprints are
full of them, even the type certified (Piper comes to mind).
Will
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Well it's finaly time for me to start building so first job is make a
rib jig, but I am confused. Bernie's plans don't show vertical members
either side of the spars but most of the rib pictures I've seen have
vertical members both sides of both spars. And without these vertical
members I don't see much attachment area for the rib to spar joint.
And speaking of spars the plans call for a routed 1 inch spars but I've
heard talk of unrouted 3/4 inch spars and I've seen pictures of built up
spars but I've never seen any plans. And if you route the spars that
means the ribs only glue to the spar at the top and bottom and not along
the whole face. So I am confused and would welcome any enlightenment.
Starting Model A powered long fuselage one piece wing. Pilot 6 foot tall
and 220 pounds so I need to keep the airplane light. Some how it's
easier to reduce weight on the airframe than on the pilot.
Thanks Mike McGowan Hallsville, Missouri
shadetree@socket.net
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Thanks Wil, I did go with each bay(station) dimensions. The side went
together smoothly and everything fit. If I was to space out the 6" It would
have changed the seat back and bulkhead dimensions. As it is,a tape line
shows me they will fit fine. I had the day off and got a lot done.
It's fun to be building. I was letting the problem of not having the
lumber stop me. I went to the local lumber yard and sorted thru the spruce.
The long (18/20 feet) 2X10 was the clearest material they had. I got it
home and studied the best way rip it. I have a surface planner, so with a
little work, was able to get my aircraft grade spruce. It's not hard to
watch grain and run out. Now if I just had a hamster to use up all the
shavings I made.
Howdy
**************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy
steps!
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Mike:
I'm no expert as I am currently working on my wings too, but I can tell you some
of what has been passed on to me through this forum.
On the additional uprights, they are not necessary, but many have chose to add
these in order to have more surface area in contact with the spar. I added them
as they just seem like a good idea with minimal weight gain. As for the spar
options... several have used a 1" spar, others a 3/4". Some choose to route
their material for weight savings (I think that is the only reason), others
do not. I am using a 3/4" spruce spar, non-routed, as many have told me that
this option is very strong and plenty light. Perhaps some are using a heavier
wood that choose to route, or maybe a thicker piece of wood that is not as strong
as other types that can be cut thinner? I'm not real sure of the advantages
of a built up spar without taking another look at that chapter... surely someone
will explain.
I am a relative beginner, so I'm certain someone will come along with additional
information. I just saw your post and wanted to reply with something since
many from the group are off looking at airplanes this week.
--------
Mark - working on wings
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Subject: | Re: Flying Piets in CA?great |
sound exelente im building one now and for now my best days for off work is
whekends and some a wile before dark bur when you are aroun please telmy a
few days before all weis chec my mails before to bed tanks again jorge from
hanford
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Thank you Jorge!!
I will drop George an email... I plan to attend the Sacramento gathering, a
nd hope to meet you there! -Perhaps George can make it as well...
I am occasionally in Hanford, so perhaps I can meet you sometime and see yo
ur Piet too!
Mark
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 10:46 PM, jorge lizarraga <flightwood@yahoo.com> wr
ote:
hi IM Jorge livin in hanfor and build one piet another person in tulery bui
ld to but george benson have a old flyable piet in wood lake and senyou his
mail to- ba.flyer@hotmail.com...
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Subject: Pietenpol-List: Flying Piets in CA??
Hey guys:
I'd like to see if I can connect with any flying Piets in California... I'm
in the central part of the state (Fresno) and looking to see if there is a
nything flying close enough to drive to...
Thanks!
Mark
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Subject: | Re: Flying Piets in CA?great |
I will be gone for a few days on vacation... Perhaps in a couple of weeks I
will be down in the hanford area.
Thank you for getting back to me!
Mark
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 9:32 PM, jorge lizarraga <flightwood@yahoo.com>wrote:
> sound exelente im building one now and for now my best days for off work is
> whekends and some a wile before dark bur when you are aroun please telmy
> afew days before all weis chec my mails before to bed tanks again jorge from
> hanford
>
> --- On *Tue, 7/28/09, Mark Roberts <mark.rbrts1@gmail.com>* wrote:
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>
> From: Mark Roberts <mark.rbrts1@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Flying Piets in CA??yes
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Date: Tuesday, July 28, 2009, 10:39 AM
>
> Thank you Jorge!!
> I will drop George an email... I plan to attend the Sacramento gathering,
> and hope to meet you there! Perhaps George can make it as well...
>
> I am occasionally in Hanford, so perhaps I can meet you sometime and see
> your Piet too!
>
> Mark
>
> On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 10:46 PM, jorge lizarraga <flightwood@yahoo.com<http://us.mc553.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=flightwood@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> hi IM Jorge livin in hanfor and build one piet another person in tulery
>> build to but george benson have a old flyable piet in wood lake and senyou
>> his mail to ba.flyer@hotmail.com<http://us.mc553.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ba.flyer@hotmail.com>
>> ...
>> --- On *Mon, 7/27/09, Mark Roberts <mark.rbrts1@gmail.com<http://us.mc553.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mark.rbrts1@gmail.com>
>> >* wrote:you have one fly or building one to tanks for you note
>>
>>
>> From: Mark Roberts <mark.rbrts1@gmail.com<http://us.mc553.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mark.rbrts1@gmail.com>
>> >
>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Flying Piets in CA??
>> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com<http://us.mc553.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
>> Date: Monday, July 27, 2009, 11:45 AM
>>
>> Hey guys:
>> I'd like to see if I can connect with any flying Piets in California...
>> I'm in the central part of the state (Fresno) and looking to see if there is
>> anything flying close enough to drive to...
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Mark
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Subject: | Re: scout fuselage |
"design stresses"? The piet birds were not "designed"
by engineers running calculations. They were built
by a man who wanted an airplane that wouldn't cost
him an arm and a leg to fly. Both AC are built like
brick you-know-whats. any differences in the end
points of the cross bracing by going with the longer
fuselage length and stretching out the bays a
couple of inches would be unnoticeable.
On the other hand 6" difference might be aerodynamicaly
noticeable. I would have gone with the overall length.
My fuse is 6" longer than plans short fuselage. All of that
behind the pilot's seat.
Clif
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: scout fuselage
>
> [quote="ciuro"]Go by the over all length.
>
> So where would you add the six inches?????????????
>
> I don't see how you could go anyway except the station dimensions;
> otherwise the design stresses would all be off.
>
> Don't think that this is a rare case of mistake; aircraft
> drawings/blueprints are full of them, even the type certified (Piper comes
> to mind).
>
> Will
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