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1. 07:44 AM - N444MH- Howard Henderson's Piet (Oscar Zuniga)
2. 09:14 AM - Re: ok, lemme have it! (Dan Yocum)
3. 09:29 AM - Re: ok, lemme have it! (Dan Yocum)
4. 09:43 AM - Re: Re: ok, lemme have it! (Dan Yocum)
5. 09:46 AM - flying low over farm fields (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation])
6. 10:47 AM - Re: flying low over farm fields (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
7. 10:47 AM - Lee Bottom/ Hanover, Indiana / Grassroots 2009 (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation])
8. 11:15 AM - Re: flying low over farm fields (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation])
9. 11:28 AM - Re: flying low over farm fields (John Hofmann)
10. 12:10 PM - Re: flying low over farm fields (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
11. 12:12 PM - Re: flying low over farm fields (Tim Willis)
12. 12:12 PM - Watch Bleriot XI Replica (Michael.D.Cuy@nasa.gov)
13. 12:40 PM - Re: flying low over farm fields (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation])
14. 12:42 PM - Watch Elvis in Action (Michael.D.Cuy@nasa.gov)
15. 01:08 PM - Re: flying low over farm fields (Baldeagle)
16. 01:25 PM - Re: Re: flying low over farm fields (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation])
17. 01:25 PM - Re: Re: flying low over farm fields (John Hofmann)
18. 01:32 PM - Re: Re: flying low over farm fields (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
19. 01:35 PM - great EAA photo of Ken Perkins (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation])
20. 01:39 PM - Re: Re: flying low over farm fields (Gary Boothe)
21. 01:42 PM - Re: Re: flying low over farm fields (Jack Phillips)
22. 01:48 PM - Andrew, Just Remember (John Hofmann)
23. 01:48 PM - Re: great EAA photo of Ken Perkins (Jack Phillips)
24. 01:50 PM - Re: Re: flying low over farm fields (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation])
25. 01:51 PM - Re: Re: flying low over farm fields (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
26. 01:51 PM - Re: Andrew, Just Remember (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
27. 02:09 PM - Watch Elvis in Action (Oscar Zuniga)
28. 02:38 PM - WP (helspersew@aol.com)
29. 02:44 PM - Re: Re: flying low over farm fields (Jim Markle)
30. 02:54 PM - Re: Re: flying low over farm fields (Gary Boothe)
31. 03:10 PM - Re: flying low over farm fields (Don Emch)
32. 03:55 PM - Re: great EAA photo of Ken Perkins (Wayne Bressler)
33. 04:04 PM - Re: Re: flying low over farm fields (Wayne Bressler)
34. 04:11 PM - Re: great EAA photo of Ken Perkins (gcardinal)
35. 04:11 PM - Re: Re: flying low over farm fields (John Hofmann)
36. 07:27 PM - Re: Re: A-380 landing video at Oshkosh (Skip Gadd)
37. 08:10 PM - Re: great EAA photo of Ken Perkins (Ryan Mueller)
38. 09:43 PM - Re: ok, lemme have it! (skybachs)
39. 09:50 PM - Re: flying low over farm fields (skybachs)
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| Subject: | N444MH- Howard Henderson's Piet |
Howdy, low 'n' slow fliers-
I had forgotten that we have a very historic, authentic, and
nice Air Camper right down here in south Texas... it's 444MH,
the beautiful Ford-powered Piet that Howard Henderson built
in the 80s and that was in Sport Aviation in 1989. The entire
story and pix are still on Grant McLaren's pages, at
http://www.grantmaclaren.com/444mh/index.html including a shot
of the instrument panel, which is about as simple as they get.
The airplane is now owned by Ron Hollmer, who lives down in the
Ingleside/Aransas Pass area (near Corpus Christi, TX) and he
and his wife Pat were kind enough to send me some recent pix of
the airplane. I'll forward those to Chris Tracy for adding to
his westcoastpiet treasure-trove.
Straight axle gear, wooden gear legs, about as true to the original
BHP plans as they get.
Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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| Subject: | Re: ok, lemme have it! |
Jeff Boatright wrote:
>
> Dan,
>
> Your lift strut welds look similar to mine and those of other Piets that
> I've seen. See if Westcoast Piet doesn't have some photos of this
> fitment on various planes.
>
> It's true that your cabane weldments won't allow moving the wing fore or
> aft, but do you really want to? It sounds like Tres has flown it with a
> variety of loadings and conducted various maneuvers that encompass what
> you'd be doing. Did he do a weight and balance and find problems? I
> suggest doing a W&B now and at every condition inspection anyway, but do
> you know if your Piet currently has a problem?
Tres did do a W&B but didn't find anything that needed to be addressed
immediately otherwise I'm sure he would have done it.
The only reason I'm thinking about addressing the issue is because it
does take some forward pressure on the stick to keep it level - the
plane does NOT fly hands off when power is applied. With power off it
flies nice and level.
Again, gap seals on the horizontal should help.
>
> Along these lines, do you know if Tres put the plane through a complete
> stall series with various power settings, loadings, and wing angles (for
> instance, up to 20 degrees of turn)? Any spins? Knowing that the plane
> is safe for these maneuvers will add confidence to your flying (though
> spins may be more than anyone is willing to try if they are not sure
> about any of these other maneuvers).
Looking at the phase I flight logs, the original builder took the plane
to 120mph on 2 occasions and 140mph on another!
The first flight I had in it, we did a couple of power off stalls - it
mushed right out and mostly straight ahead. It might have dropped a
little on the right side, but that could have been due to turbulence
(lots of thermals marked by Cu's in the sky).
>
> I have never seen puckering on wing fabric like that. I would be very
> cautious about conducting any of these maneuvers (stalls, spins, etc.)
> unless you know that they have been completed before with that puckering
> and that nothing dramatic occurs. Seems to me, as suggested by Bill,
> that the puckering creates a whole new airfoil. Also, as Bill suggested,
> it is certainly possible to shrink the fabric if the problem was that it
> wasn't shrunk correctly at installation. Sherwin Wms comes right off if
> you apply strong masking tape - it's a feature, not a bug...
The puckering is behind the rear spar so the puckers might even help
keep the air attached to the wing! ;-)
Thanks for the feedback,
Dan
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Dan Yocum
Fermilab 630.840.6509
yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
Fermilab. Just zeros and ones.
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| Subject: | Re: ok, lemme have it! |
Bill Budgell wrote:
> Unless you have broken or rotted wood in your wings. then that is just a
> bad covering job. the fabric has not been shrunk enough to the proper
> tempature. reshrink it or take it offf and recover the wing.
Nope, no ribs are broken, luckily. And now that you say it, it makes
perfect sense that the correct amount of heat wasn't applied.
Can that be fixed this many years and 2 coats of top coat/paint later?
Maybe I'll just ignore it for the time being - it's flown 9,000+ miles
in the last 18 months, and 3,200 of those in the past 2 weeks!
Thanks,
Dan
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Dan Yocum
Fermilab 630.840.6509
yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
Fermilab. Just zeros and ones.
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| Subject: | Re: ok, lemme have it! |
Hi Rob,
skybachs wrote:
>
> If they re-stitched the wing, then the buckling fabric is a simple side-affect.
I would undo/redo those stitches...maybe a touch of heat from a heatgun while
the stitches were out would help as well.
>
> Static port: if you move the static port to the back of the panel by removing
the static line and plugging, the low pressure in the cockpit area will give
you false readings. Try lowering the pitot/static tube to create more room from
the bottom of the wing. I put a bushing in front of my static port with a set
screw so I could slide it fore and aft from the static port until I got accurate
readings.
>
It's even worse than that - the static port line was cut *inside* the
wing so it should just be moved somewhere on the fuselage.
Tres did a full Vx, Vy, max L/D, min sink analysis on the plane for a
school paper and it shows that the airspeed indicated on the ASI is off,
but the difference is linear over the flight envelope. For the time
being I'll use his numbers to get the feel for the plane, and put a new
static port on the side sometime in the future.
> Warped stab can be tweaked with cable adjustments of course, but a warped elevator
is a cosmetic problem. Adding another hinge (or heck, a piano hinge full
span) might help....and you'd get your gap seal to boot.
>
Where the horizontal stab/elevator hinge, it's straight. The TE of the
elevator is warped end-to-end. Kind of strange...
> Don't sweat the cabanes: all your wb adjustments will be with weight added/subtracted
around the plane.
>
> If she's flying nose heavy or light but the wb is good, there are plenty of things
to adjust in the rigging and spring/bungees to add to the bellcrank or the
stick itself to help it trim out.
>
> If I had known you were flying by, I would've invited you to stop by the Piet
Factory (or Brassroots as they're calling it) and done a once-over.
>
BUU isn't very far from LL53. When I can drop by? ;-)
> Rob
>
> --------
> NX29NX, C65, Hegy prop, Blue/Cream flying!
90mph on a A-65 on a Piet? Was there a tailwind on the day you flew
home from OSH?
> NX31TM, C85-12, GN-1, 90% done, Red/Cream
> NX30NX, Corvair, on gear, wings/tail done
> NX31NX, Hatz CB-1, O-320B, on gear, ribs done
Clearly you have too much time your hands. Here, let me lend you a
couple of twin 2 year olds...
Cheers,
Dan
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Dan Yocum
Fermilab 630.840.6509
yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
Fermilab. Just zeros and ones.
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| Subject: | flying low over farm fields |
Great fun that is Shad. I learned my lesson though to scope out for wires
, but good, about 10 years ago when I came around a stand of trees over fla
t farmland and came upon high tension wires-fortunately the wires were abou
t 2,000 feet ahead of me so I had plenty of time to divert. I was down lo
w chasing a friend in his Cub ala the Kessler/Pepper scenes in The Great Wa
ldo Pepper. (but not with near the theatrics or engine noises) Great fun
but you really have to know the field (s) well.
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| Subject: | Re: flying low over farm fields |
Tell us how you fought the black and yellow German...... Ernst
Kessler....... you fought Ernst Kessler?
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| Subject: | Lee Bottom/ Hanover, Indiana / Grassroots 2009 |
Hmmm..if you RV-4 up there Jack I'd drive up unless it conflicts with the same
weekend as Ginger and Rich Davidson's Lee Bottom Flying Field gathering--which was amazing last year. Loved it. More: http://www.leebottom.com/
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| Subject: | flying low over farm fields |
Yes...I'm the third greatest pilot in the world behind Kessler and Waldo Pe
pper:) Yeah, right !!!
I actually lost a good dogfight to a 73 year old guy by the name of Bob Whi
te flying his Cub on my
tail. I seriously could not shake Bob so I smoked him-and looked back, he'
s weaving and going
all over the place because he couldn't see squat in the smoke-he was that c
lose to me. Great fun
but I was humbled-he was a good stick !
Tell us how you fought the black and yellow German...... Ernst Kessler.....
.. you fought Ernst Kessler?
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| Subject: | Re: flying low over farm fields |
The pond Mikee! The pond's the safest place!
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John Hofmann
Vice-President, Information Technology
The Rees Group, Inc.
2810 Crossroads Drive, Ste 3800
Madison, WI 53718
Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
Fax: 608.443.2474
Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
On Aug 6, 2009, at 1:05 PM, Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace
Corporation] wrote:
> Yes=85I=92m the third greatest pilot in the world behind Kessler and
> Waldo PepperJ Yeah, right !!!
> I actually lost a good dogfight to a 73 year old guy by the name of
> Bob White flying his Cub on my
> tail. I seriously could not shake Bob so I smoked him=97and looked
> back, he=92s weaving and going
> all over the place because he couldn=92t see squat in the smoke=97he
was
> that close to me. Great fun
> but I was humbled=97he was a good stick !
>
> Tell us how you fought the black and yellow German...... Ernst
> Kessler....... you fought Ernst Kessler?
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: flying low over farm fields |
it always makes Mikee feel good when there's a little something waiting
for him when he gets down, folks in Wichata gave 10.. 20 dollars to see a
crash like this
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John
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| Subject: | Re: flying low over farm fields |
A split S usually works if you and your plane can stand it... ;)
When I see you all at Brodhead next, remind me to tell you of the local EAA guy
here who did a split-S in his Long EZ. He wasn't dogfighting, but it was his
idea of competitive aerobatics. Some story.
Tim in central TX
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-----Original Message-----
From: John Hofmann
Sent: Aug 6, 2009 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: flying low over farm fields
The pond Mikee! The pond's the safest place!
Do not archive.
John Hofmann
Vice-President, Information Technology
The Rees Group, Inc.
2810 Crossroads Drive, Ste 3800
Madison, WI 53718
Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
Fax: 608.443.2474
Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
On Aug 6, 2009, at 1:05 PM, Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]
wrote:
YesIm the third greatest pilot in the world behind Kessler and Waldo PepperJ
Yeah, right !!!
I actually lost a good dogfight to a 73 year old guy by the name of Bob White flying
his Cub on my
tail. I seriously could not shake Bob so I smoked himand looked back, hes weaving
and going
all over the place because he couldnt see squat in the smokehe was that close to
me. Great fun
but I was humbledhe was a good stick !
Tell us how you fought the black and yellow German...... Ernst Kessler....... you
fought Ernst Kessler?
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| Subject: | Watch Bleriot XI Replica |
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| Subject: | flying low over farm fields |
folks in Wichata gave 10.. 20 dollars to see a crash like this
Oh-you saw some of my landings did you ? :)
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| Subject: | Watch Elvis in Action |
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| Subject: | Re: flying low over farm fields |
It's reassuring that people here quote Waldo Pepper....
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Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=256393#256393
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| Subject: | Re: flying low over farm fields |
They're good People Andrew !
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-
>list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Baldeagle
>Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 4:08 PM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: flying low over farm fields
>
><baldeagle27@earthlink.net>
>
>It's reassuring that people here quote Waldo Pepper....
>
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>Read this topic online here:
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>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=256393#256393
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| Subject: | Re: flying low over farm fields |
"Smile Son, Never Disconcert the Masses."
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John Hofmann
Vice-President, Information Technology
The Rees Group, Inc.
2810 Crossroads Drive, Ste 3800
Madison, WI 53718
Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
Fax: 608.443.2474
Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
On Aug 6, 2009, at 3:07 PM, Baldeagle wrote:
> >
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> It's reassuring that people here quote Waldo Pepper....
>
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=256393#256393
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| Subject: | Re: flying low over farm fields |
just crowd ring it, crowd right in
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| Subject: | great EAA photo of Ken Perkins |
WOW-I finally found ONE photo of a Pietenpol in the EAA photo galleries. P
erhaps there are more but even in the Sunday arrival video they show FACTOR
Y builts landing-Bonanzas, Mooneys, Cessnas. Pathetic.
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Re: flying low over farm fields |
My wife's gone this weekend! I get to watch WP again....uh, in between
working on the brakes and axle....
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(13 ribs down.)
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Baldeagle
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 1:08 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: flying low over farm fields
<baldeagle27@earthlink.net>
It's reassuring that people here quote Waldo Pepper....
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| Subject: | Re: flying low over farm fields |
I'm taking my copy of Waldo Pepper to our EAA Chapter's Aviation Movie Night
tomorrow.
"You're not a bad sort, Waldo, but you're dangerous."
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Boothe
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 4:38 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: flying low over farm fields
My wife's gone this weekend! I get to watch WP again....uh, in between
working on the brakes and axle....
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(13 ribs down.)
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Baldeagle
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 1:08 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: flying low over farm fields
<baldeagle27@earthlink.net>
It's reassuring that people here quote Waldo Pepper....
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Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=256393#256393
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| Subject: | Andrew, Just Remember |
Some people would say that what you are about to see, is probably the
greatest exhibition of aeronautical skill in the history of world. I
myself, wouldnt go that far. It is probably only the greatest since
the invention of the aeroplane.
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John Hofmann
Vice-President, Information Technology
The Rees Group, Inc.
2810 Crossroads Drive, Ste 3800
Madison, WI 53718
Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
Fax: 608.443.2474
Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
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| Subject: | great EAA photo of Ken Perkins |
There was also a nice shot that I found in the gallery:
Jack Phillips
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cuy, Michael
D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 4:30 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: great EAA photo of Ken Perkins
WOW-I finally found ONE photo of a Pietenpol in the EAA photo galleries.
Perhaps there are more but even in the Sunday arrival video they show
FACTORY builts landing-Bonanzas, Mooneys, Cessnas. Pathetic.
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Re: flying low over farm fields |
Whatcha doin' in California Newt ?
New guy.....Brown.
Well I'll get him when he gets down.
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| Subject: | Re: flying low over farm fields |
"I still am cute"
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| Subject: | Re: Andrew, Just Remember |
its gonna be a monoplane
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| Subject: | Watch Elvis in Action |
Mikee-
We lived nearly 10 years in Medford, Oregon- which is next
door to Central Point, home of Erickson Aircrane and the
Sikorski conversions in the video. They fly all over the
world doing firefighting, selective logging, rescue, heavy
lifting and placement, and other specialized tasks. Very
interesting but remote connection to experimental aviation
is that while I was still living in Oregon, Jack Erickson
also located and restored a P-38 Lightning to complete and
authentic flying condition and I got to see one of the test
flights. I believe the airplane is in the Tillamook Air Museum,
http://www.warbirdregistry.org/p38registry/p38-4427083.html
Tillamook is about 60 miles from McMinnville, where the one
and only Hughes HK-1 "Spruce Goose" is now located. Since the
Spruce Goose has wooden structural components, I have now
connected this topic with the Pietenpol Air Camper and made
the post relevant ;o)
Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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"The last time I went flying with you all I saw was the inside of a paper sac"
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| Subject: | Re: flying low over farm fields |
Enough of this silly BS...I'm gonna turn off the computer and go work on my Pietenpol!!!
TGJP (The Great Jimmy Pepper)
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-----Original Message-----
>From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]"
>Sent: Aug 6, 2009 4:48 PM
>To: "pietenpol-list@matronics.com"
>Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: flying low over farm fields
>
>
>Whatcha doin' in California Newt ?
>
>New guy.....Brown.
>
>Well I'll get him when he gets down.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: flying low over farm fields |
NO! NO! YOU MUST MEMORIZE LINES FROM WALDO PEPPER!
I'm convinced that there is some sort of rite of passage whereby we are
forced to recite 3 lines from the movie. For my miserable memory, it will
take me as long to memorize those lines as it will to finish the Piet...
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(13 ribs down.)
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Markle
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 2:43 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: flying low over farm fields
Enough of this silly BS...I'm gonna turn off the computer and go work on my
Pietenpol!!!
TGJP (The Great Jimmy Pepper)
do not archive
-----Original Message-----
>From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]"
>Sent: Aug 6, 2009 4:48 PM
>To: "pietenpol-list@matronics.com"
>Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: flying low over farm fields
>
Aerospace Corporation]"
>
>Whatcha doin' in California Newt ?
>
>New guy.....Brown.
>
>Well I'll get him when he gets down.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: flying low over farm fields |
Good Grief! You guys are nuts!
My wife will have to thank all of you because she's gonna have to sit and watch
TGWP tonight so I can attempt to communicate with you guys!
Don Emch
NX899DE
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| Subject: | Re: great EAA photo of Ken Perkins |
Is there an organization for those of us who still enjoy the more
traditional aspects of aviation? What the EAA was all about in the
fifties, sixties, and seventies?
I thought I had heard that Paul Poberezny had started a grassroots
organization a few yeas back, but I can't recall the details. Does
anyone know of such a group?
Wayne Bressler Jr.
Taildraggers, Inc.
taildraggersinc.com
Sent from the phone that made the Blackberry obsolete.
On Aug 6, 2009, at 4:30 PM, "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace
Corporation]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov> wrote:
> WOW=94I finally found ONE photo of a Pietenpol in the EAA photo
galler
> ies. Perhaps there are more but even in the Sunday arrival video th
> ey show FACTORY builts landing=94Bonanzas, Mooneys, Cessnas.
Patheti
> c.
>
> Mike C.
>
> <OSH09 Ken Perkins heading home to Kansas.jpg>
>
> <OSH09 Ken Perkins heading home to Kansas.jpg>
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| Subject: | Re: flying low over farm fields |
My wife already knows I'm nuts. I knew she was a keeper when she
bought me a DVD copy of TGWP when we were dating.
I don't believe she's stayed awake through the whole movie yet, though!
Do not archive
Wayne Bressler Jr.
Taildraggers, Inc.
taildraggersinc.com
Sent from the phone that made the Blackberry obsolete.
On Aug 6, 2009, at 6:10 PM, "Don Emch" <EmchAir@aol.com> wrote:
>
> Good Grief! You guys are nuts!
>
> My wife will have to thank all of you because she's gonna have to
> sit and watch TGWP tonight so I can attempt to communicate with you
> guys!
>
> Don Emch
> NX899DE
>
> do not archive
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=256422#256422
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: great EAA photo of Ken Perkins |
Paul had started the Sport Aviation Association but it is now defunct.
If you are looking for something similar to the good old days look no
further than the BPA........
Greg Cardinal
SAA #1468
----- Original Message -----
From: Wayne Bressler
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 5:54 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: great EAA photo of Ken Perkins
Is there an organization for those of us who still enjoy the more
traditional aspects of aviation? What the EAA was all about in the
fifties, sixties, and seventies?
I thought I had heard that Paul Poberezny had started a grassroots
organization a few yeas back, but I can't recall the details. Does
anyone know of such a group?
Wayne Bressler Jr.
Taildraggers, Inc.
taildraggersinc.com
Sent from the phone that made the Blackberry obsolete.
On Aug 6, 2009, at 4:30 PM, "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace
Corporation]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov> wrote:
WOW=94I finally found ONE photo of a Pietenpol in the EAA
photo galleries. Perhaps there are more but even in the Sunday arrival
video they show FACTORY builts landing=94Bonanzas, Mooneys,
Cessnas. Pathetic.
Mike C.
<OSH09 Ken Perkins heading home to Kansas.jpg>
<OSH09 Ken Perkins heading home to Kansas.jpg>
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| Subject: | Re: flying low over farm fields |
You know what I'd do? Throw sand in her eyes, it'll blind her.
Do Not Archive.
John Hofmann
Vice-President, Information Technology
The Rees Group, Inc.
2810 Crossroads Drive, Ste 3800
Madison, WI 53718
Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
Fax: 608.443.2474
Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
On Aug 6, 2009, at 5:10 PM, Don Emch wrote:
>
> Good Grief! You guys are nuts!
>
> My wife will have to thank all of you because she's gonna have to
> sit and watch TGWP tonight so I can attempt to communicate with you
> guys!
>
> Don Emch
> NX899DE
>
> do not archive
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=256422#256422
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: A-380 landing video at Oshkosh |
Lowell,
As I recall the ATIS for 36L "340 at 19 gusting to 24". What happened to
you could have happened to any one of us.
Skip
> Mike, the 360's landing was much better than mine, FAA wanted to know how
many hours I had in class, told them, (her ) 2000 plus, end of
conversation, You Piet Captains did a good job.
> Pieti Lowell
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| Subject: | Re: great EAA photo of Ken Perkins |
Speaking of Ken, I missed an absolutely perfect shot of him polishing the
Ford emblem on his engine by seconds. This was the best I could do:
http://users.rcn.com/ryan.mueller/IMG_0392.JPG
Ryan
P.S.: Thanks for the pic Mike. A nice shot...
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace
Corporation] <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov> wrote:
> WOW=97I finally found ONE photo of a Pietenpol in the EAA photo gallerie
s.
> Perhaps there are more but even in the Sunday arrival video they show
> FACTORY builts landing=97Bonanzas, Mooneys, Cessnas. Pathetic.
>
> Mike C.
>
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| Subject: | Re: ok, lemme have it! |
Come on up any time. Bring your elevators if you want to learn how to recover and
we'll see if we can get them straight.
Putting the static port in the propwash never works real well with the Piets. I'd
be happy to help you re-route the static line to it's proper spot. There's
always room in the shop for another Piet!
Drop me an e-mail if you'd like to come up, by Piet or car, it's not that far.
[Wink]
Rob
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NX29NX, C65, Hegy prop, Blue/Cream flying!
NX31TM, C85-12, GN-1, 90% done, Red/Cream
NX30NX, Corvair, on gear, wings/tail done
NX31NX, Hatz CB-1, O-320B, on gear, ribs done
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| Subject: | Re: flying low over farm fields |
Favorite line at the Miracle Aircraft Company shop-full-o-Piets:
"A monoplane. Are you telling me you're building me an airplane with only one wing?"
"Just thought you'd like to know: the biplane's gone the way of the Dodo. "
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NX29NX, C65, Hegy prop, Blue/Cream flying!
NX31TM, C85-12, GN-1, 90% done, Red/Cream
NX30NX, Corvair, on gear, wings/tail done
NX31NX, Hatz CB-1, O-320B, on gear, ribs done
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