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1. 02:59 AM - Re: Re: TGWP on Encore (mksoucy@yahoo.com)
2. 05:15 AM - Barnstorming: DVD arrived today!!! (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation])
3. 05:16 AM - Re: rough sawn lumber selection (Gary Boothe)
4. 05:22 AM - Re: Engine Cleaning Methods (Jim Markle)
5. 05:43 AM - Re: Engine Cleaning Methods (Gary Boothe)
6. 06:25 AM - Re: Engine Cleaning Methods (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
7. 06:49 AM - Re: Engine Cleaning Methods (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
8. 06:51 AM - Re: Engine Cleaning Methods (Steve Ruse)
9. 06:51 AM - Re: Engine Cleaning Methods (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
10. 07:08 AM - Re: Engine Cleaning Methods (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
11. 07:18 AM - Re: Engine Cleaning Methods (K5YAC)
12. 07:33 AM - Re: Engine Cleaning Methods (Bill Church)
13. 07:50 AM - Re: Engine Cleaning Methods (Bill Church)
14. 08:50 AM - Re: Engine Cleaning Methods (Dennis Engelkenjohn)
15. 08:54 AM - Re: Engine Cleaning Methods (Steve Ruse)
16. 09:09 AM - Re: Engine Cleaning Methods (K5YAC)
17. 09:19 AM - Re: Re: Engine Cleaning Methods (Bill Church)
18. 09:58 AM - Re: Re: TGWP on Encore (Mark Roberts)
19. 09:59 AM - Re: Barnstormers (Mark Roberts)
20. 10:09 AM - Re: Handheld Radio (Aircraft Spruce Info)
21. 10:24 AM - Re: TGWP on Encore (K5YAC)
22. 10:28 AM - Re: skid ball (BYD)
23. 10:36 AM - Re: skid ball (Jerry Dotson)
24. 12:13 PM - some suggestions on where to buy avionics, headsets, radios...etc.... (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation])
25. 12:30 PM - Re: Re: TGWP on Encore (Bill Church)
26. 12:50 PM - Re: TGWP on Encore (Don Emch)
27. 01:19 PM - Re: Re: TGWP on Encore (John Hofmann)
28. 01:26 PM - Re: TGWP on Encore (Don Emch)
29. 01:34 PM - Re: Barnstormers (Baldeagle)
30. 02:43 PM - Re: Re: TGWP on Encore (John Hofmann)
31. 03:05 PM - Re: Re: TGWP on Encore (Steve Ruse)
32. 03:07 PM - Re: Re: TGWP on Encore (Bill Church)
33. 03:16 PM - Re: Barnstormers (Gary Boothe)
34. 03:21 PM - Re: Re: skid ball (Gary Boothe)
35. 03:24 PM - Dom Emch (K5YAC)
36. 03:47 PM - Re: Barnstormers (airlion)
37. 03:49 PM - Re: TGWP on Encore (Don Emch)
38. 04:02 PM - Re: Dom Emch (Don Emch)
39. 04:04 PM - Re: Barnstormers (Gary Boothe)
40. 04:08 PM - Re: Re: Handheld Radio (Gene & Tammy)
41. 04:40 PM - Re: Re: TGWP on Encore (Wayne Bressler)
42. 05:24 PM - Re: Re: TGWP on Encore (Michael McGowan)
43. 05:30 PM - Re: Dom Emch (TulsaFlyer)
44. 05:30 PM - Re: skid ball (skellytown flyer)
45. 05:35 PM - Re: Dom Emch (Lloyd Smith)
46. 05:37 PM - Re: Re: skid ball (Gene & Tammy)
47. 06:12 PM - judging videos/films (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation])
48. 06:20 PM - Re: judging videos/films (amsafetyc@aol.com)
49. 06:42 PM - Re: Movies / RFD (Wayne Bressler)
50. 06:42 PM - Pieti Lowell speaks! (Jeff Boatright)
51. 06:42 PM - Re: Re: TGWP on Encore (Max Hegler)
52. 06:51 PM - Re: Re: TGWP on Encore (amsafetyc@aol.com)
53. 07:11 PM - Re: judging videos/films (Gary Boothe)
54. 07:40 PM - Re: skid ball (Jerry Dotson)
55. 07:53 PM - Re: Pieti Lowell speaks! (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
56. 07:53 PM - Re: Re: skid ball (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
57. 08:44 PM - Re: Re: TGWP on Encore (Michael McGowan)
58. 08:53 PM - Cool girls have Dads that own a Pietenpol... (Ryan Mueller)
59. 09:10 PM - Moon trees... (Ryan Mueller)
60. 09:55 PM - Re: TGWP on Encore (Baldeagle)
61. 10:54 PM - Re: Re: TGWP on Encore (Ryan Mueller)
62. 11:12 PM - Re: Cool girls have Dads that own a Pietenpol... (Gary Boothe)
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| Subject: | Re: TGWP on Encore |
I hate to add to this but as great as Tgwp is nobody has mentioned Flyboys
Mike
Sent from my iPod
On Aug 17, 2009, at 11:05 PM, Darrel Jones <wd6bor@vom.com> wrote:
Darrel Jones wrote:
OK, I'll say it again. "Only Angels Have Wings" is the best flying movie ever ...
Hard to argue with that, though I might give "12 O'Clock High" a slight edge.
Just so they aren't completely overlooked, "Island in the Sky" and "The High and
the Mighty" weren't bad. It's tough to go too far wrong with Ernie Gann.
Owen
(lurk mode back on)
Own,
Those two are also on the favorites list. "Island in the Sky" and the DC-3s in
formation over the north country (actually filmed in Truckee, Lake Tahoe) with
the clouds is breathtaking. If you haven't read Ernie Gann, hit the library or
Amazon tomorrow. Another good one is "Always". Holly Hunter and A-26's and PBYs.
Yum!
Darrel
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| Subject: | Barnstorming: DVD arrived today!!! |
Thank you Ryan--- I called it Barnstormers incorrectly. I'm getting more and
more like
my father everyday. Scary.
Here's the link if any of you would like to order your own copy.
http://www.barnstormingmovie.com/dvd.htm
Andrew King, (who is on this list) is featured in the production as well as Frank
Pavliga of Sky Gypsy fame--now with the Lambert radial. (Andrew flew the Pitcairn
Autogiro into OSH
this year that was parked near the Red Barn and has been a long time Pietenpol
guy)
Mike C.
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| Subject: | rough sawn lumber selection |
Tom,
If you think you may have difficulty seeing the end grain, take a sanding
block loaded with 60-80 grit paper.
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(13 ribs down.)
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert Ray
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 10:02 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: rough sawn lumber selection
I think they carry a boat grade I would ask them? The boat grade isn't as
good as aircraft
has a little more waste, I think the growth rings are visible enough whether
planed
or rough, pitch pockets pin knots I would say a little harder to detect.
my .000002 worth, also try to pick quarter sawn or the boards that got sent
through the
saw that come from the center of the log taht have cross grain.
Russell
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 12:25 AM, TOM MICHELLE BRANT <tmbrant@msn.com>
wrote:
I'm headed down to McCormicks Lumber in Madison to pick up some spar
material this weekend. Any tips for judging the rough sawn lumber? I'm
just concerned that I won't be able to see all I need to see without the
boards being planed or having clean ends, edges, etc. Out of the 4 boards
they sent me for my fuselage, 3 of them turned out to be spar quality, so I
know they have the right stuff...
Tom B.
" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
ttp://forums.matronics.com
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| Subject: | Re: Engine Cleaning Methods |
How about oven cleaner? I've used it for cleaning table saw blades and it works
wonders.
Or check out Chris Bobka's very simple/inexpensive sand blaster plans on westcoastpiet.com
under construction. It's not much more than a couple of sheets of
exterior plywood. I built one several years ago and it was the best thing I
ever added to my shop. One of the smallest investments in my shop and one of
the biggest paybacks.
Gonna do some sandblasting and powder coating on jury strut fittings this week,
actually.
JM in HOT Oklahoma...
I am rebuilding a small Continental also. The post about sandblasting got me thinking
about cleaning the parts before putting it back together. The plastic media
sounds great but I don't have access to a blaster of any kind.
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| Subject: | Engine Cleaning Methods |
Charlie,
For proof, my buddy, Jim Boyer, sent a picture of his wife helping him scrub
the case of a Corvair in their kitchen sink! Simple Green works good, with a
little elbow grease. For $10, a local transmission shop let me stick my case
halve in with their transmissions for cleaning.worked out great!
For small parts, I found a gallon can of "green" parts cleaner at a local
auto parts supply. It came with a basket large enough to fit in a 5 gallon
plastic bucket.let the parts soak for a few hours, then rinse them off.
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(13 ribs down.)
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charles
Tracy
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 10:13 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Engine Cleaning Methods
I am rebuilding a small Continental also. The post about sandblasting got me
thinking about cleaning the parts before putting it back together. The
plastic media sounds great but I don't have access to a blaster of any kind.
Do you have any ideas about how else I could clean the carbon or old paint
off?
Charlie
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From: Lloyd Smith <lesmith240@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 6:16:02 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Sandblasting valve springs...a mistake?
We strip paint off our Dash 8 wheels w/ plastic media and it doesn't even
remove the alodine/anodize treatment from the metal.
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com> wrote:
Steve,
I don't think I would sandblast (literally with sand, or even glass bead) a
piston, unless I was looking to make an ashtray or some decorative piece out
of it. At the repair station I worked at we would blast pistons clean with
plastic media; that's probably about as harsh as you'd want to go. You don't
need to make it look absolutely brand new, you just need to remove the
carbon. I would take particular care around the ring lands; turn the
pressure down and keep the stream of media moving so you don't damage the
lands.
I would second John's comment about there really being no reason to
sandblast (again, literally with sand) any part of an aircraft engine.
Aluminum parts should never be sandblasted, unless you want to trash them.
Plastic media or walnut shells would be a better idea, and even then you
don't want to turn the pressure up too high or concentrate too long on one
spot. For removing corrosion on steel parts, glass media works well, but you
still have to be careful.
Ryan
--
"Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or
not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedy." --British
publisher and writer Ernest Benn (1875-1954)
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| Subject: | Re: Engine Cleaning Methods |
I would warn that one must be equally as careful with chemical cleaning
agents. Products containing caustic materials like sodium hydroxide with a
basic Ph, aka lye, drano and other such materials are extremely aggressive
towards. Eating aluminum parts but may yield some really really clean clean
junk.
I suspect that when using a water based material and you want to add a bit
of abrasive action to your efforts that a Scotchbrite pad with baking soda
will also help as it creates a mild abrasive that is soft enough to not
affect the metals you are working with.
Other articles I have read indicate a combined petro based soak of kerosene
and varsal work pretty well also.
be weary of any of the hydro carbon cleaners Like perchlorethane (perc)
Methylenechloride are about the worst and are on the suspect and confirmed
carcinogen list. 111 trichlorethane (safety solve, brake cleaner and CRC 446
contact cleaner) is in the same chemical category as a chlorinated
hydrocarbon but does not carry the same warning. Many, if not all chlorinated
hydrocarbon materials require the use of respiratory protection and although the
odor makes them smell highly flammable they are not. They are however
known to produce certain side effects when used in confined spaces like
chloroform a old style anesthetic in high airborne concentrations in confined
spaces . When burned may evolve phosgene gas.
Any chemical washing should always be done wearing eye protection (safety
glasses or chem goggles or full face shields), hand protection and
possibly respiratory protection as many of these chemical substances are known
to
pose a skin absorption hazard.
Petroleum product cleaners, avoid neoprene gloves as they will absorb the
material grow and ultimately break down to a point of failure.
When ever possible collect labeling information and a search for the MSDS
before purchasing or before using the chemical as it may be helpful in
making your purchasing decision.
do not mix chemicals you are not fully aware of. combining 2 great cleaners
does not always make one super cleaner. the combining of an ammonia based
product with a chlorine bleach, (Clorox) a sodium hypo chlorate material
will evolve toxic gas, chloroamine, in a confined space can cause death.
My apologies for this dissertation, however chemical errors are like
departure stalls,difficult if not impossible to recover from.
The good news is that any chemical substance can be rendered safe or
harmful depending upon the users knowledge and willingness to follow the basic
rules of chemical safety.
Go forth and clean the sermon is ended.
John
safe in the morning
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| Subject: | Re: Engine Cleaning Methods |
Thanks for the information John...I think most people, myself
included, underestimate the long term effects. Probably because even
the glass cleaner your grandma uses has a stern sounding warning label.
Everyone here should take a minute and read this article. This guy
almost died after vaporizing a small amount of brake parts cleaner
with a torch. And it sounds like he is suffering permanent
debilitating effects. Serious stuff. Who here would've hesitated to
vaporize some brake parts cleaner when using a torch? It creates a
lethal gas:
http://myweb.cableone.net/pinkhamr/WeldingWarning.jpg
Now a question...what kind of gloves do you guys use when using these
harsh chemicals? I bought some nitrile gloves thinking they had good
chemical resistance, but they don't do squat when you get these harsh
cleaners on them...might as well not use anything.
Also, keep in mind that the effect of some chemicals is cumulative
over one's lifetime. i.e., just because a chemical you used yesterday
didn't appear to hurt you doesn't mean it is OK to expose yourself to
it regularly. I wear goggles but haven't been able to find gloves
that will keep this stuff off my hands.
Steve Ruse
Norman, OK
Quoting AMsafetyC@aol.com:
> I would warn that one must be equally as careful with chemical cleaning
> agents. Products containing caustic materials like sodium hydroxide with a
> basic Ph, aka lye, drano and other such materials are extremely aggressive
> towards. Eating aluminum parts but may yield some really really clean clean
> junk.
>
> I suspect that when using a water based material and you want to add a bit
> of abrasive action to your efforts that a Scotchbrite pad with baking soda
> will also help as it creates a mild abrasive that is soft enough to not
> affect the metals you are working with.
>
> Other articles I have read indicate a combined petro based soak of kerosene
> and varsal work pretty well also.
>
> be weary of any of the hydro carbon cleaners Like perchlorethane (perc)
> Methylenechloride are about the worst and are on the suspect and confirmed
> carcinogen list. 111 trichlorethane (safety solve, brake cleaner and CRC 446
> contact cleaner) is in the same chemical category as a chlorinated
> hydrocarbon but does not carry the same warning. Many, if not all
> chlorinated
> hydrocarbon materials require the use of respiratory protection and
> although the
> odor makes them smell highly flammable they are not. They are however
> known to produce certain side effects when used in confined spaces like
> chloroform a old style anesthetic in high airborne concentrations
> in confined
> spaces . When burned may evolve phosgene gas.
>
> Any chemical washing should always be done wearing eye protection (safety
> glasses or chem goggles or full face shields), hand protection and
> possibly respiratory protection as many of these chemical substances
> are known to
> pose a skin absorption hazard.
>
> Petroleum product cleaners, avoid neoprene gloves as they will absorb the
> material grow and ultimately break down to a point of failure.
>
> When ever possible collect labeling information and a search for the MSDS
> before purchasing or before using the chemical as it may be helpful in
> making your purchasing decision.
>
> do not mix chemicals you are not fully aware of. combining 2 great cleaners
> does not always make one super cleaner. the combining of an ammonia based
> product with a chlorine bleach, (Clorox) a sodium hypo chlorate material
> will evolve toxic gas, chloroamine, in a confined space can cause death.
>
> My apologies for this dissertation, however chemical errors are like
> departure stalls,difficult if not impossible to recover from.
>
> The good news is that any chemical substance can be rendered safe or
> harmful depending upon the users knowledge and willingness to follow
> the basic
> rules of chemical safety.
>
> Go forth and clean the sermon is ended.
>
> John
>
> safe in the morning
>
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| Subject: | Re: Engine Cleaning Methods |
Further more, hearing protection is highly recommended if you're cleaning
airplane parts around the house as your spouse, significant other will be
less than happy and let you know of her dissatisfaction and detrain for the
odors that have assaulted her olfactory nose. All of which can result in an
assault on your ears.
Help protect your hearing , wear hearing protection at home on a regular
basis!
John
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| Subject: | Re: Engine Cleaning Methods |
Steve food points, thanks. Glove selections should be made by matching the
substance to the glove material you can go to the Edmont Wilson glove site
and there should be an application chart that will help with the selection
process.
Skin is a semi permeable membrane which allows materials chemicals to bass
through, that means skin absorption is a major route of entry to the body
systems as they pass through the skin the enter the blood stream and are
circulated ultimately cleaned out by the Liver they take up residence there
and do most of the damage in tumors that often are determined to be
malignant. Chronic exposure over time causes subtle changes that you are not aware
of until the damage is done, at which point it is typically too late to
repair or remediate but becomes a task of monitoring and maintenance treatment.
The problem with Livers is ya only got one and you cant live with out it,
the chemical toxin scrubber.
The good news is, there are several good sources for the selection and use
of PPE personal protective equipment and with a little research time you
can contact the respirator company, the glove company and the eye wear
company for access to their sites that all provided recommended usage tables and
information.
Anyone not familiar with the toxic effects of the chemicals they use have a
right, duty and responsibility to learn about them and take the necessary
precautions to protect themmselves.
John
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| Subject: | Re: Engine Cleaning Methods |
Thanks guys... now I am thoroughly scared.
Gas welding rig and 28 1/2 wing ribs for sale... cheap!
Jusk kidding... thanks for the information. We could all use a reminder now and
then. A lot of these processes, techniques, skills, compounds, etc. are brand
new to some of us... a little fear might be just what we need to read the labels
or investigate more thoroughly.
--------
Mark - working on wings
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=258421#258421
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| Subject: | Engine Cleaning Methods |
John,
Good points about being safe with chemicals. Some of that stuff is
nasty.
I personally can no longer use "crazy glue" (cynoacrylate), since I
developed a reaction to it. The fumes give me serious respiratory
problems. But, for the first twenty or so years of using it in model
building, I had no problems - it was a cumulative sort of thing. Just
hit me one day. Had I made a point of always using protective gear, I
probably wouldn't have developed the reaction.
Just be aware that Scotchbrite pads come in various flavors - some of
which are actually quite abrasive. We use them in the shop to apply a
brushed finish on stainless steel. I think as long as one uses the light
duty, scratch-free pads, they should be okay.
Bill C.
safe at various times throughout the day
________________________________
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
AMsafetyC@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:20 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Engine Cleaning Methods
I would warn that one must be equally as careful with chemical cleaning
agents. Products containing caustic materials like sodium hydroxide with
a basic Ph, aka lye, drano and other such materials are extremely
aggressive towards. Eating aluminum parts but may yield some really
really clean clean junk.
I suspect that when using a water based material and you want to add a
bit of abrasive action to your efforts that a Scotchbrite pad with
baking soda will also help as it creates a mild abrasive that is soft
enough to not affect the metals you are working with.
John
safe in the morning
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| Subject: | Engine Cleaning Methods |
Steve,
Have you tried this stuff?
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/cmpages/handinvisible.php
Bill C.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve
Ruse
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:51 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Engine Cleaning Methods
--> <steve@wotelectronics.com>
Now a question...what kind of gloves do you guys use when using these
harsh chemicals? I bought some nitrile gloves thinking they had good
chemical resistance, but they don't do squat when you get these harsh
cleaners on them...might as well not use anything.
Steve Ruse
Norman, OK
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| Subject: | Re: Engine Cleaning Methods |
You can get the white, non abrasive scotchbrite pads at Home Depot in
the rental section. They come in 12 X 18 inches by 3/4" thick for less
than $ 6.00. You can cut to fit.
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Church
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:32 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Engine Cleaning Methods
John,
Good points about being safe with chemicals. Some of that stuff is
nasty.
I personally can no longer use "crazy glue" (cynoacrylate), since I
developed a reaction to it. The fumes give me serious respiratory
problems. But, for the first twenty or so years of using it in model
building, I had no problems - it was a cumulative sort of thing. Just
hit me one day. Had I made a point of always using protective gear, I
probably wouldn't have developed the reaction.
Just be aware that Scotchbrite pads come in various flavors - some of
which are actually quite abrasive. We use them in the shop to apply a
brushed finish on stainless steel. I think as long as one uses the light
duty, scratch-free pads, they should be okay.
Bill C.
safe at various times throughout the day
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
AMsafetyC@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:20 AM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Engine Cleaning Methods
I would warn that one must be equally as careful with chemical
cleaning agents. Products containing caustic materials like sodium
hydroxide with a basic Ph, aka lye, drano and other such materials are
extremely aggressive towards. Eating aluminum parts but may yield some
really really clean clean junk.
I suspect that when using a water based material and you want to add a
bit of abrasive action to your efforts that a Scotchbrite pad with
baking soda will also help as it creates a mild abrasive that is soft
enough to not affect the metals you are working with.
John
safe in the morning
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| Subject: | Engine Cleaning Methods |
I have not, but I think I'll add some to my next Aircraft Spruce order.
Thanks!
Steve
Quoting Bill Church <eng@canadianrogers.com>:
>
>
> Steve,
>
> Have you tried this stuff?
>
> http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/cmpages/handinvisible.php
>
> Bill C.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve
> Ruse
> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:51 AM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Engine Cleaning Methods
>
> --> <steve@wotelectronics.com>
>
>
> Now a question...what kind of gloves do you guys use when using these
> harsh chemicals? I bought some nitrile gloves thinking they had good
> chemical resistance, but they don't do squat when you get these harsh
> cleaners on them...might as well not use anything.
>
> Steve Ruse
> Norman, OK
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Engine Cleaning Methods |
I must have overlooked the bit on Scotchbrite... what are the hazards? I use the
maroon (medium) and brown (coarse) regularly.
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| Subject: | Re: Engine Cleaning Methods |
Mark,
The only hazard would be that you scratch the metal that you're trying
to clean.
It's not a safety thing.
Bill C.
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of K5YAC
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 12:09 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Engine Cleaning Methods
I must have overlooked the bit on Scotchbrite... what are the hazards?
I use the maroon (medium) and brown (coarse) regularly.
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Mark - working on wings
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| Subject: | Re: TGWP on Encore |
Well, the family and I sat down last night to watch TGWP and I must say, we
were all entertained. I have a tough time sitting through movies these days,
as I think I have gotten Late Onset ADD or something... Can't just sit there
without my laptop or something else to do, but I did last night watching an
airplane movie!
I think I had seen it before, but don't remember... Some of the scenes
looked familiar. I was surprised at some of the darker sides of the movie as
I had pretty much expected a comedy.
However, once and a while I'd bust up laughing and my family would look at
me funny. I'd have to pause the movie and explain: "That's a line I
recognize from reading the Piet list..."
Fun.
Mark
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 7:12 PM, Owen Davies <owen5819@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Darrel Jones wrote:
>
>> OK, I'll say it again. "Only Angels Have Wings" is the best flying movie
>> ever ...
>>
> Hard to argue with that, though I might give "12 O'Clock High" a slight
> edge.
>
> Just so they aren't completely overlooked, "Island in the Sky" and "The
> High and the Mighty" weren't bad. It's tough to go too far wrong with Ernie
> Gann.
>
> Owen
> (lurk mode back on)
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Barnstormers |
Hey Gary:
Has there been any discussion out here for another WW covair
clinic/workshop?
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 8:41 PM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
> Winter?
>
>
> I hope to run it at the next WW College on the Left Coast.
>
>
> Gary
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Ryan Mueller
> *Sent:* Monday, August 17, 2009 8:29 PM
> *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: Pietenpol-List: Barnstormers
>
>
> 'Barnstorming'....technically... ;)
>
> Congratulations on permanently mounting the mount! You could have that
> engine on there and running before winter comes.....well, that is if you
> lived in a place that had winter. :P
>
> Ryan
>
> do not archive
>
> On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 9:37 PM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote
:
>
> My wife is not that supportive of my project (my fault for starting the
> kitchen remodel before the Piet), but even she liked Barnstormers! Guess
if
> I start getting cold cereal for dinner I=92ll get back to the kitchen=85.
>
>
> =85got the engine mount on tonight=85permanently! Here comes the engine
=85.
>
>
> Gary Boothe
>
> Cool, Ca.
>
> Pietenpol
>
> WW Corvair Conversion
>
> Tail done, Fuselage on gear
>
> (13 ribs down=85)
>
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| Subject: | Re: Handheld Radio |
We noticed Gene's posting to the group regarding Aircraft Spruce's advertising
price of $340 on the Vertex VXA-300 radio, and we appreciate him bringing this
to our attention. The $340 was a minimum advertising price allowed by Vertex,
but was incorrect and should be $220. This has now been corrected on our website,
and our actually selling price for this radio is substantially lower. We
apologize for the error in the price that had been advertised for this product.
Aircraft Spruce & Specialty Co.
Customer Service Dept.
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| Subject: | Re: TGWP on Encore |
I noticed the same thing a while back Mark... someone said, "don't disconcert the
masses" in one of my posts after I had riled up a bunch of low tech Internet
users (he he), and I really thought he was kind of coming to my defense. You
know, kind of to say... hey, there are a bunch of fuddy duddys here that wouldn't
agree with you on ANYTHING even if you were paying them, so just move along
now... but no... I later found out, after hearing it several more times that
it was just a damn movie line. LOL!
Gotta love it.
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Here is a simple slip/skid I made for my project. It's a ball-bearing in a plastic
tube filled with baby oil and capped with bolts at each end. May not be
accurate - but I usually just want to confirm that I'm slipping or skidding and
don't care by how much.
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BYD
I like those black on white instruments. Very nice!
--------
Jerry Dotson
59 Daniel Johnson Rd
Baker, FL 32531
Started building NX510JD July, 2009
using Lycoming O-235
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| Subject: | some suggestions on where to buy avionics, headsets, |
radios...etc....
but was incorrect and should be $220. This has
>now been corrected on our website, and our actually selling price for
>this radio is substantially lower. We apologize for the error in the
>price that had been advertised for this product.
>
>Aircraft Spruce & Specialty Co.
>Customer Service Dept.
Another reason I buy all my avionics from Marv Golden. Good prices (and accurate
prices), easy
to deal with and fast service. http://www.marvgolden.com/
Gulfcoast Avionics is good too--I've have excellent experiences purchasing noise
cancelling headsets
from them. http://www.gca.aero/
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| Subject: | Re: TGWP on Encore |
Flyboys - Now THERE's a crappy movie (If you like real airplanes, as
opposed to computer generated images of airplanes)
What a disappointment that was.
Especially after all the hype that preceded it's release.
BC
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
mksoucy@yahoo.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 5:59 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: TGWP on Encore
--> <mksoucy@yahoo.com>
I hate to add to this but as great as Tgwp is nobody has mentioned
Flyboys
Mike
Sent from my iPod
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| Subject: | Re: TGWP on Encore |
Wow, I kinda liked Flyboys. In fact, I thought it was really great! Probably
my favorite flying movie. Although there were many computer generated scenes,
there were many actual flying scenes too. Maybe Andrew King can chime in here
and say something about some of those scenes, since he flew many of them.
Don Emch
NX899DE
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| Subject: | Re: TGWP on Encore |
Mr. Brown, anybody can supply accuracy. Artists supply truth.
Signed,
-The Mediocre Johnny Salt-
John Hofmann
Vice-President, Information Technology
The Rees Group, Inc.
2810 Crossroads Drive, Ste 3800
Madison, WI 53718
Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
Fax: 608.443.2474
Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
On Aug 18, 2009, at 2:50 PM, Don Emch wrote:
>
> Wow, I kinda liked Flyboys. In fact, I thought it was really
> great! Probably my favorite flying movie. Although there were many
> computer generated scenes, there were many actual flying scenes
> too. Maybe Andrew King can chime in here and say something about
> some of those scenes, since he flew many of them.
>
> Don Emch
> NX899DE
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=258496#258496
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: TGWP on Encore |
Darn you, John! I want to be able to communicate like that!
Don E.
please do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Barnstormers |
"My wife is not that supportive of my project (my fault for starting the kitchen
remodel before the Piet), but even she liked Barnstormers! Guess if I start
getting cold cereal for dinner Ill get back to the kitchen. "
Glad to be of help-- I sent a link to this to the producers, they'll get a kick
out of it-
-
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| Subject: | Re: TGWP on Encore |
Is TGWP a great movie? Absolutely not. Is it a fun movie with some
good lines? Absolutely. But, what we have lost sight of is that The
Great Waldo Pepper has the answer to all of life's questions. For
example:
Modern Health Issues:
"Waldo! They're Smoking!"
What is really "Special?"
"An honest days work, that's what I call special."
Understanding of Wimmin:
"I get to pick the clothes. And I get to pick what words you are
going to use about me on the sign."
REAL understanding of Wimmin (applies to those of us with a practice
wife or two under our belts):
"I knew she wasn't worth top billing."
Alcoholism:
"Any bad habits I should know about? Drinking, for example?"
"There's no problem here."
Sportsmanship:
"You're a good loser, and I like good losers. Then again, you've
probably had lots of practice."
And so it goes...
-The Mediocre Johnny Salt-
John Hofmann
Vice-President, Information Technology
The Rees Group, Inc.
2810 Crossroads Drive, Ste 3800
Madison, WI 53718
Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
Fax: 608.443.2474
Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
On Aug 18, 2009, at 3:26 PM, Don Emch wrote:
>
> Darn you, John! I want to be able to communicate like that!
>
> Don E.
>
> please do not archive
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=258502#258502
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: TGWP on Encore |
Speaking of TGWP, does anyone know where I can get a copy of the DVD?
I'm constantly hearing about it here, but I've never seen it. I'm
shocked that Netflix doesn't have it.
Steve Ruse
Norman, OK
Quoting John Hofmann <jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com>:
> Is TGWP a great movie? Absolutely not. Is it a fun movie with some
> good lines? Absolutely. But, what we have lost sight of is that The
> Great Waldo Pepper has the answer to all of life's questions. For
> example:
>
> Modern Health Issues:
> "Waldo! They're Smoking!"
>
> What is really "Special?"
> "An honest days work, that's what I call special."
>
> Understanding of Wimmin:
> "I get to pick the clothes. And I get to pick what words you are
> going to use about me on the sign."
>
> REAL understanding of Wimmin (applies to those of us with a practice
> wife or two under our belts):
> "I knew she wasn't worth top billing."
>
> Alcoholism:
> "Any bad habits I should know about? Drinking, for example?"
> "There's no problem here."
>
> Sportsmanship:
> "You're a good loser, and I like good losers. Then again, you've
> probably had lots of practice."
>
> And so it goes...
>
> -The Mediocre Johnny Salt-
>
>
> John Hofmann
> Vice-President, Information Technology
> The Rees Group, Inc.
> 2810 Crossroads Drive, Ste 3800
> Madison, WI 53718
> Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
> Fax: 608.443.2474
> Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
>
> On Aug 18, 2009, at 3:26 PM, Don Emch wrote:
>
>>
>> Darn you, John! I want to be able to communicate like that!
>>
>> Don E.
>>
>> please do not archive
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=258502#258502
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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| Subject: | Re: TGWP on Encore |
Well Don,
I think the thing that bugged me most was that I read about the movie
for a while before it came out, and one of the things that I remember
was a comment that although some of the flying scenes were CGI, the
viewer wouldn't even be able to tell, because they were so well done.
When I finally got to watch it, I thought the dogfight scenes were
cartoonish, and not realistic feeling. The planes moved around way too
fast, and there were way too many aircraft in a small space. I did enjoy
all of the "real" flying scenes, though. After reading about the
Nieuport replicas that magically got built in less than two months for
use in the movie, I was really looking forward to seeing the finished
product. I have a feeling that a lot of actual flying footage got
dumped, and replaced with the computer generated stuff because the
general (non-aircraft oriented) public would find it more exciting.
But what do I know about cinema - I actually like Mike Cuy's video.
Bill C.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don Emch
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 3:50 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: TGWP on Encore
Wow, I kinda liked Flyboys. In fact, I thought it was really great!
Probably my favorite flying movie. Although there were many computer
generated scenes, there were many actual flying scenes too. Maybe
Andrew King can chime in here and say something about some of those
scenes, since he flew many of them.
Don Emch
NX899DE
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Yes, Mark. I saw WW at Brodhead and he alluded to another workshop in
January. I plan to run my engine at that time..
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(13 ribs down.)
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Roberts
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:59 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Barnstormers
Hey Gary:
Has there been any discussion out here for another WW covair
clinic/workshop?
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 8:41 PM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
Winter?
I hope to run it at the next WW College on the Left Coast.
Gary
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Mueller
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 8:29 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Barnstormers
'Barnstorming'....technically... ;)
Congratulations on permanently mounting the mount! You could have that
engine on there and running before winter comes.....well, that is if you
lived in a place that had winter. :P
Ryan
do not archive
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 9:37 PM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
My wife is not that supportive of my project (my fault for starting the
kitchen remodel before the Piet), but even she liked Barnstormers! Guess if
I start getting cold cereal for dinner I'll get back to the kitchen..
.got the engine mount on tonight.permanently! Here comes the engine..
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(13 ribs down.)
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
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BYD (?),
I like that! Just where does one find one ball bearing? Last night I broke
open a spray can (cfc's flying everywhere...global warming an imminent
result), to find that the 'rattle' is marble that's too big.
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(13 ribs down.)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of BYD
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 10:28 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: skid ball
Here is a simple slip/skid I made for my project. It's a ball-bearing in a
plastic tube filled with baby oil and capped with bolts at each end. May
not be accurate - but I usually just want to confirm that I'm slipping or
skidding and don't care by how much.
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Don:
I've looked for a direct address for you, or some way I could contact you personally,
but I'm unable to find anything. Anyhow, I just want to say thank you
for taking my son (Tyler) for a ride at Brodhead. He is still telling people
about that, and I know he will remember it forever. We had a super time up there
and are already looking forward to next year. My wife (Theresa) and son were
both lucky enough to get rides (thanks Bill Rewey and Jim Markle for coordinating)...
I would like to thank Bill again personally, but I don't think he
is on the boards and I don't know how to contact him either. I know that those
rides definitely made a difference in my family's overall interest in my project.
Oh, they were both already pretty involved in the whole thing, but the
Brodhead trip and the rides were very exciting for both of them.
I posted a couple of video clips after Brodhead, which you may have already watched,
but I'll post them here again anyway. Your flight is in the second clip
I believe, but you will probably enjoy both.
Part 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohdPTXboIXM
Part 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOoEoHSt8tg
Several days after Brodhead, Bill Church forwarded me a photo that we just love.
He said that he wasn't sure who the kid was until he watched my videos. I'm
so glad he did... it is a great shot that will be framed in my hangar soon (see
below). Thanks Bill... and thanks to all of you who showed us that magic
of Brodhead and the Pietenpol community.
--------
Mark - working on wings
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| Subject: | Re: Barnstormers |
Gary, when you say Left Coast, are you saying that all left coasters are le
ft wingers? How will those things fly?=0A=0Acheers, Gardiner=0A=0A=0A______
__________________________=0AFrom: Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net>=0ATo:
pietenpol-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 6:16:15 PM
=0ASubject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Barnstormers=0A=0A =0AYes, Mark. I saw WW a
t Brodhead and he=0Aalluded to another workshop in January. I plan to run m
y engine at that time.=0A =0AGary Boothe=0ACool, Ca.=0APietenpol
=0AWW Corvair Conversion=0ATail=0Adone, Fuselage on gear=0A(13 ribs down
)=0A=0A________________________________=0A =0AFrom:owner-pietenpol-li
st-server@matronics.com=0A[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
] On Behalf Of Mark Roberts=0ASent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009=0A9:59 AM=0ATo
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s=0A =0AHey Gary:=0A=0AHas there been any discussion out here for another W
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Bill,
I have to agree with you. I'm sure a lot of the true flying scenes got dumped
in favor of being able to win over the general public. I also think the CGI scenes
were a little cheesy. I remember a documentary that was made just to show
how the scenes were computer generated. I think a documentary about how the
flying scenes were filmed would have been much more fascinating. But I guess
we do have to realize what society finds interesting is not really what we find
interesting. Maybe us Pieters don't really fit that well into society, Ha!
That being said I still really did like the movie! As for TGWP, for some reason
every time I watch it I feel a little depressed afterwards, it really is kind
of a dumb movie. But man I sure do like it! Like I said, us Pieters may not
really fit that well into society. But hey, that's fine with me!
Don Emch
NX899DE
P.S. What we really need is more movies like Mike Cuy's. I really love it and
my wife falls asleep. Not a bad thing. Just don't tell her I said that.
please do not archive my bad attempt to rate a movie
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Wow! What an awesome shot! I love it! That is what flying the Pietenpol is all
about! Thanks Bill!
How about this. I talked to your son before the flight about things he could and
couldn't do. I didn't want him to get scared so I told him to just sit straight
in the seat and told him what not to touch. I figured he would be like
many other kids I've given rides to where they just kind of sit straight and are
obviously nervous. As soon as we broke ground his arms went out flailing around
and they never came back in until we were on the ground. I could actually
hear him up there yelling for much of the flight! Pointing at other airplanes,
pointing at stuff on the ground. He was obviously pretty excited. That
made the flight much more fun for me! When we got back to Mom, she said, "Did
you sit straight and sit still?" He said, "Yup." I love kids!
My cell # is (330) 429-5265
If there is anything I can help with let me know.
Don Emch
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GOOD HEAVENS, NO!
But that brings to mind a rhetorical question: In a one piece wing..is
there really a left wing and a right wing?
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(13 ribs down.)
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of airlion
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Barnstormers
Gary, when you say Left Coast, are you saying that all left coasters are
left wingers? How will those things fly?
cheers, Gardiner
_____
From: Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net>
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 6:16:15 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Barnstormers
Yes, Mark. I saw WW at Brodhead and he alluded to another workshop in
January. I plan to run my engine at that time..
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(13 ribs down.)
_____
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Roberts
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:59 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Barnstormers
Hey Gary:
Has there been any discussion out here for another WW covair
clinic/workshop?
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 8:41 PM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
Winter?
I hope to run it at the next WW College on the Left Coast .
Gary
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Mueller
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 8:29 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Barnstormers
'Barnstorming'....technically... ;)
Congratulations on permanently mounting the mount! You could have that
engine on there and running before winter comes.....well, that is if you
lived in a place that had winter. :P
Ryan
do not archive
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 9:37 PM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
My wife is not that supportive of my project (my fault for starting the
kitchen remodel before the Piet), but even she liked Barnstormers! Guess if
I start getting cold cereal for dinner I'll get back to the kitchen..
.got the engine mount on tonight.permanently! Here comes the engine..
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(13 ribs down.)
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Now that is what I call customer support! I would like to point out that
this is not the first time ACS has responded to our comments here. I'm
impressed.
Thank you
Gene in Tennessee
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From: "Aircraft Spruce Info" <info@aircraftspruce.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 12:09 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Handheld Radio
> <info@aircraftspruce.com>
>
> We noticed Gene's posting to the group regarding Aircraft Spruce's
> advertising price of $340 on the Vertex VXA-300 radio, and we appreciate
> him bringing this to our attention. The $340 was a minimum advertising
> price allowed by Vertex, but was incorrect and should be $220. This has
> now been corrected on our website, and our actually selling price for this
> radio is substantially lower. We apologize for the error in the price that
> had been advertised for this product.
>
> Aircraft Spruce & Specialty Co.
> Customer Service Dept.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=258457#258457
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| Subject: | Re: TGWP on Encore |
$100 a pop? Worth every penny.
I think wife paid $40 for my copy on eBay about four years ago.
Wayne Bressler Jr.
Taildraggers, Inc.
taildraggersinc.com
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What you guys should try watching is Those Magnificent Men in Their Flying
Machines instead. The aircraft are much closer in spirit to the Piet and the
flying is all real. They used to show this movie for free in the campground
at night during the Rockford flyin. I got to see it about six times. For
those of you who don't remember Rockford that was before Oshkosh, the prices
were reasonable, the people friendly and the airplanes were not plastic.
Also they didn't charge extra for every little thing. There was even a
Pietenpol there with two Continental 65 engines in the nose driving counter
rotating props.
Mike McGowan shadetree@socket.net
building rib jig long fuselage Model A
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Emch" <EmchAir@aol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 5:48 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: TGWP on Encore
>
> Bill,
>
> I have to agree with you. I'm sure a lot of the true flying scenes got
> dumped in favor of being able to win over the general public. I also
> think the CGI scenes were a little cheesy. I remember a documentary that
> was made just to show how the scenes were computer generated. I think a
> documentary about how the flying scenes were filmed would have been much
> more fascinating. But I guess we do have to realize what society finds
> interesting is not really what we find interesting. Maybe us Pieters
> don't really fit that well into society, Ha!
>
> That being said I still really did like the movie! As for TGWP, for some
> reason every time I watch it I feel a little depressed afterwards, it
> really is kind of a dumb movie. But man I sure do like it! Like I said,
> us Pieters may not really fit that well into society. But hey, that's
> fine with me!
>
> Don Emch
> NX899DE
>
> P.S. What we really need is more movies like Mike Cuy's. I really love
> it and my wife falls asleep. Not a bad thing. Just don't tell her I said
> that.
>
> please do not archive my bad attempt to rate a movie
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=258531#258531
>
>
>
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What a perfect shot of the future test pilot for the prototype of the F-22 replacement.
[Wink]
Jody
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well I e-mailed LEAF and they still have them but the correct price is 46.50 plus
shipping if you're interested. I'm not-guess it's home made for me. as far
as finding ball bearings almost any automotive machine shop or repair shop probably
has a collection of old bearings they have replaced.Raymond
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Mark, I hope you don't mind me jumping on the Brodhead "brass" bandwagon.
This year was my first visit to Brodhead and after leaving there and driving
up to Oshkosh, I felt Oshkosh was sort of , well, flat. And since returning
home, I find I immediately filter the email each day to bring up the Piet
stuff first.
I had built the rib jig and ripped some clear pine to make a "wallhanger"
rib for practice but never glued it up.
While at Oshkosh I ordered my t-88 from Wicks and was planning on coming
back through Madison to stop at the lumber yard for spruce, but I couldn't
remember the name of the company and Mr. Rewey's plane wasn't around the
affordable flying exhibit by then, so I just came home. It's amazing how
immersion in a subject like a weekend at Brodhead sort of brings things into
focus.
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 6:24 PM, K5YAC <hangar10@cox.net> wrote:
>
>
> Several days after Brodhead, Bill Church forwarded me a photo that we just
> love. He said that he wasn't sure who the kid was until he watched my
> videos. I'm so glad he did... it is a great shot that will be framed in my
> hangar soon (see below). Thanks Bill... and thanks to all of you who showed
> us that magic of Brodhead and the Pietenpol community.
>
> --------
> Mark - working on wings
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=258524#258524
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/tyler_and_don_512.jpg
>
>
> --
"Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or
not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedy." --British
publisher and writer Ernest Benn (1875-1954)
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Transmission shops have just the right size ball bearings.
----- Original Message -----
From: "skellytown flyer" <rhano@att.net>
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 7:30 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: skid ball
>
> well I e-mailed LEAF and they still have them but the correct price is
> 46.50 plus shipping if you're interested. I'm not-guess it's home made for
> me. as far as finding ball bearings almost any automotive machine shop or
> repair shop probably has a collection of old bearings they have
> replaced.Raymond
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=258565#258565
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| Subject: | judging videos/films |
But what do I know about cinema - I actually like Mike Cuy's video.
Bill C.
Good Lord, I've always had such respect for Bill Church 0)ntil I read this above:)
Kidding Bill and thank you.
I guess I'm all about real scenes in any airplane related footage-- that's why
I like "Barnstorming" so well
and things like PBS specials on aviation. (History Channel, things like that
of course too)
What I really enjoyed were all the videos you guys so generously took and then
posted on YouTube---very cool.
I think my Mother has made those "number of view" counts go up tremendously if
I tell her I'm in the scene:)
Mike C.
(do OSH and BHD go by fast or what ?0)
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The good news is there are only 11 months till we get to do it again!
I got most all my plans made
John
------Original Message------
From: Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]
Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
ReplyTo: Pietenpol builders Board
Sent: Aug 18, 2009 9:05 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: judging videos/films
But what do I know about cinema - I actually like Mike Cuy's video.
Bill C.
Good Lord, I've always had such respect for Bill Church 0)ntil I read this above:)
Kidding Bill and thank you.
I guess I'm all about real scenes in any airplane related footage-- that's why
I like "Barnstorming" so well
and things like PBS specials on aviation. (History Channel, things like that
of course too)
What I really enjoyed were all the videos you guys so generously took and then
posted on YouTube---very cool.
I think my Mother has made those "number of view" counts go up tremendously if
I tell her I'm in the scene:)
Mike C.
(do OSH and BHD go by fast or what ?0)
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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| Subject: | Re: Movies / RFD |
Another great movie.
If you don't know about Rockford, or the early years of EAA, get a
copy of Duane Cole's "This is EAA". It's fun reading for people like
us.
Wayne Bressler Jr.
Taildraggers, Inc.
taildraggersinc.com
>
> What you guys should try watching is Those Magnificent Men in Their
> Flying Machines instead. The aircraft are much closer in spirit to
> the Piet and the flying is all real. They used to show this movie
> for free in the campground at night during the Rockford flyin. I got
> to see it about six times. For those of you who don't remember
> Rockford that was before Oshkosh, the prices were reasonable, the
> people friendly and the airplanes were not plastic. Also they didn't
> charge extra for every little thing. There was even a Pietenpol
> there with two Continental 65 engines in the nose driving counter
> rotating props.
>
> Mike McGowan shadetree@socket.net
> building rib jig long fuselage Model A
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| Subject: | Pieti Lowell speaks! |
Links are to the seminar where Pieti Lowell (Frank) chats about his
experiments with Pietenpols. Included are discussions of the Riblett
airoils, fuel injection of a Ford Model B engine, and other
performance tweaks. Video in five parts. Note that I missed about the
first minute - sorry! - plus, the flies were terrible, so you'll see
the video bounce around a lot as I finally lose it a couple of times
and swat at them.
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unvGPeYrc3o>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unvGPeYrc3o
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHHnzw1V5FY>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHHnzw1V5FY
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYJ1QchJCeM>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYJ1QchJCeM
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLTDTEyhpGE>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLTDTEyhpGE
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNJI19K3POU>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNJI19K3POU
--
Jeff Boatright
"Now let's think about this..."
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| Subject: | Re: TGWP on Encore |
Oh, com'on you must be fantasizing! Reasonable prices, no plastic planes,
not charging for everything??? That must have been before HRH Tom
Poberesny...
On 8/18/09 7:18 PM, "Michael McGowan" <shadetree@socket.net> wrote:
>
> What you guys should try watching is Those Magnificent Men in Their Flying
> Machines instead. The aircraft are much closer in spirit to the Piet and the
> flying is all real. They used to show this movie for free in the campground
> at night during the Rockford flyin. I got to see it about six times. For
> those of you who don't remember Rockford that was before Oshkosh, the prices
> were reasonable, the people friendly and the airplanes were not plastic.
> Also they didn't charge extra for every little thing. There was even a
> Pietenpol there with two Continental 65 engines in the nose driving counter
> rotating props.
>
> Mike McGowan shadetree@socket.net
> building rib jig long fuselage Model A
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Don Emch" <EmchAir@aol.com>
> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 5:48 PM
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: TGWP on Encore
>
>
>>
>> Bill,
>>
>> I have to agree with you. I'm sure a lot of the true flying scenes got
>> dumped in favor of being able to win over the general public. I also
>> think the CGI scenes were a little cheesy. I remember a documentary that
>> was made just to show how the scenes were computer generated. I think a
>> documentary about how the flying scenes were filmed would have been much
>> more fascinating. But I guess we do have to realize what society finds
>> interesting is not really what we find interesting. Maybe us Pieters
>> don't really fit that well into society, Ha!
>>
>> That being said I still really did like the movie! As for TGWP, for some
>> reason every time I watch it I feel a little depressed afterwards, it
>> really is kind of a dumb movie. But man I sure do like it! Like I said,
>> us Pieters may not really fit that well into society. But hey, that's
>> fine with me!
>>
>> Don Emch
>> NX899DE
>>
>> P.S. What we really need is more movies like Mike Cuy's. I really love
>> it and my wife falls asleep. Not a bad thing. Just don't tell her I said
>> that.
>>
>> please do not archive my bad attempt to rate a movie
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=258531#258531
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: TGWP on Encore |
Is that the movie about the 413 Scout? Curtain, Schwab, McKinnen and Pepper over
the Herkin wood? I love that movie!
Especially when he does it right there right over the Herkin wood. Didn't the yellow
and black German salute that Pepper guy because he had such respect for
him with his guns being jammed.
Wow that's a great movie
John
------Original Message------
From: Michael McGowan
Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
ReplyTo: Pietenpol builders Board
Sent: Aug 18, 2009 8:18 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: TGWP on Encore
What you guys should try watching is Those Magnificent Men in Their Flying
Machines instead. The aircraft are much closer in spirit to the Piet and the
flying is all real. They used to show this movie for free in the campground
at night during the Rockford flyin. I got to see it about six times. For
those of you who don't remember Rockford that was before Oshkosh, the prices
were reasonable, the people friendly and the airplanes were not plastic.
Also they didn't charge extra for every little thing. There was even a
Pietenpol there with two Continental 65 engines in the nose driving counter
rotating props.
Mike McGowan shadetree@socket.net
building rib jig long fuselage Model A
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Emch" <EmchAir@aol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 5:48 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: TGWP on Encore
>
> Bill,
>
> I have to agree with you. I'm sure a lot of the true flying scenes got
> dumped in favor of being able to win over the general public. I also
> think the CGI scenes were a little cheesy. I remember a documentary that
> was made just to show how the scenes were computer generated. I think a
> documentary about how the flying scenes were filmed would have been much
> more fascinating. But I guess we do have to realize what society finds
> interesting is not really what we find interesting. Maybe us Pieters
> don't really fit that well into society, Ha!
>
> That being said I still really did like the movie! As for TGWP, for some
> reason every time I watch it I feel a little depressed afterwards, it
> really is kind of a dumb movie. But man I sure do like it! Like I said,
> us Pieters may not really fit that well into society. But hey, that's
> fine with me!
>
> Don Emch
> NX899DE
>
> P.S. What we really need is more movies like Mike Cuy's. I really love
> it and my wife falls asleep. Not a bad thing. Just don't tell her I said
> that.
>
> please do not archive my bad attempt to rate a movie
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=258531#258531
>
>
>
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| Subject: | judging videos/films |
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(13 ribs down.)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cuy, Michael
D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 6:05 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: judging videos/films
Aerospace Corporation]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
But what do I know about cinema - I actually like Mike Cuy's video.
Bill C.
Good Lord, I've always had such respect for Bill Church 0)ntil I read this
above:) Kidding Bill and thank you.
I guess I'm all about real scenes in any airplane related footage-- that's
why I like "Barnstorming" so well
and things like PBS specials on aviation. (History Channel, things like
that of course too)
What I really enjoyed were all the videos you guys so generously took and
then posted on YouTube---very cool.
I think my Mother has made those "number of view" counts go up tremendously
if I tell her I'm in the scene:)
Mike C.
(do OSH and BHD go by fast or what ?0)
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WOO HOO That set my hair. I 'm gonna try my hand at glass bending too. They have
made a change on their website.
--------
Jerry Dotson
59 Daniel Johnson Rd
Baker, FL 32531
Started building NX510JD July, 2009
using Lycoming O-235
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| Subject: | Re: Pieti Lowell speaks! |
Jeff
Thanks I really appreciate your recording that talk. I wish I had sat in on
that.
Thanks again
John
In a message dated 8/18/2009 9:43:05 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
jboatri@emory.edu writes:
Links are to the seminar where Pieti Lowell (Frank) chats about his
experiments with Pietenpols. Included are discussions of the Riblett airoils,
fuel injection of a Ford Model B engine, and other performance tweaks. Video
in five parts. Note that I missed about the first minute - sorry! - plus,
the flies were terrible, so you'll see the video bounce around a lot as I
finally lose it a couple of times and swat at them.
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unvGPeYrc3o_
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unvGPeYrc3o)
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHHnzw1V5FY_
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHHnzw1V5FY)
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYJ1QchJCeM_
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYJ1QchJCeM)
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLTDTEyhpGE_
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLTDTEyhpGE)
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNJI19K3POU_
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNJI19K3POU)
--
Jeff Boatright
"Now let's think about this..."
(http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List)
(http://www.matronics.com/contribution)
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Jerry
you'll be surprised how easy it is to bend glass, breaking it is even
easier.
John
In a message dated 8/18/2009 10:40:50 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
jdotson@erec.net writes:
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Jerry Dotson" <jdotson@erec.net>
WOO HOO That set my hair. I 'm gonna try my hand at glass bending too.
They have made a change on their website.
--------
Jerry Dotson
59 Daniel Johnson Rd
Baker, FL 32531
Started building NX510JD July, 2009
using Lycoming O-235
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| Subject: | Re: TGWP on Encore |
Yes His Royal Majesty Paul was still running the show
Mike McGowan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Max Hegler" <MaxHegler@msn.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 8:40 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: TGWP on Encore
>
> Oh, com'on you must be fantasizing! Reasonable prices, no plastic planes,
> not charging for everything??? That must have been before HRH Tom
> Poberesny...
>
>
> On 8/18/09 7:18 PM, "Michael McGowan" <shadetree@socket.net> wrote:
>
>> <shadetree@socket.net>
>>
>> What you guys should try watching is Those Magnificent Men in Their
>> Flying
>> Machines instead. The aircraft are much closer in spirit to the Piet and
>> the
>> flying is all real. They used to show this movie for free in the
>> campground
>> at night during the Rockford flyin. I got to see it about six times. For
>> those of you who don't remember Rockford that was before Oshkosh, the
>> prices
>> were reasonable, the people friendly and the airplanes were not plastic.
>> Also they didn't charge extra for every little thing. There was even a
>> Pietenpol there with two Continental 65 engines in the nose driving
>> counter
>> rotating props.
>>
>> Mike McGowan shadetree@socket.net
>> building rib jig long fuselage Model A
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Don Emch" <EmchAir@aol.com>
>> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 5:48 PM
>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: TGWP on Encore
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Bill,
>>>
>>> I have to agree with you. I'm sure a lot of the true flying scenes got
>>> dumped in favor of being able to win over the general public. I also
>>> think the CGI scenes were a little cheesy. I remember a documentary
>>> that
>>> was made just to show how the scenes were computer generated. I think a
>>> documentary about how the flying scenes were filmed would have been much
>>> more fascinating. But I guess we do have to realize what society finds
>>> interesting is not really what we find interesting. Maybe us Pieters
>>> don't really fit that well into society, Ha!
>>>
>>> That being said I still really did like the movie! As for TGWP, for
>>> some
>>> reason every time I watch it I feel a little depressed afterwards, it
>>> really is kind of a dumb movie. But man I sure do like it! Like I
>>> said,
>>> us Pieters may not really fit that well into society. But hey, that's
>>> fine with me!
>>>
>>> Don Emch
>>> NX899DE
>>>
>>> P.S. What we really need is more movies like Mike Cuy's. I really love
>>> it and my wife falls asleep. Not a bad thing. Just don't tell her I
>>> said
>>> that.
>>>
>>> please do not archive my bad attempt to rate a movie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>
>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=258531#258531
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Cool girls have Dads that own a Pietenpol... |
Dan Yocum put a pic of his girls trying out the Piet cockpits for size on
Facebook, and invited a Fark style photoshop job. Here's my offering:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/rmueller23/3835115733/sizes/o/
It's done rather quickly, and I had to use an unfamiliar program; I
'GIMP'ed' it, as I don't have Photoshop on this machine right now since
installing Windows 7. As such I apologize for the quality, but there ya have
it...
Have a good night all,
Ryan
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You could say this is off-topic/unrelated, but there are at least two
degrees of connections to Piets in this story:
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2002/13aug_moontrees.htm
One, the story comes from NASA, and Mike C. works for them. And two, it's
about trees, which are wood, which is what Piets are made out of. Plus I
thought it was kind of a cool story....
Ryan
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: TGWP on Encore |
I spent 11 weeks in England working on Flyboys, 35 hours of flying and lots of
taxiing on the ground, and figure I might have 2 minutes on screen. Everything
above 500 feet was CGI, I guess the low stuff around the trees was too hard
to do. And there were some things in the script I wish they'd changed, but it
was a blast doing it, the people were great, and it paid well (Imagine getting
paid to fly around down valleys and between trees). I hate to see it criticized
because I know how much work went into it, but I understand the criticisms.
And it was independantly financed, so they had to squeeze a $100 mil movie
into a $60 mil budget.
As for other movies, "Always" is good, it has airplanes, and my girlfriend cried,
so what more can you ask for?
Also, do not miss "Dark Blue World", trust me.
-
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| Subject: | Re: TGWP on Encore |
Andrew,
Congrats on your work with Flyboys. While the movie came off as a little too
much Hollywood for me, I did enjoy the honest-to-goodness flying sequences
that ended up in the film. We had the good fortune to spend some time
talking to Eric Presten at the Piet fly-in at Brodhead this year; if I
recall correctly he was involved in that film to some extent as well.
Also, thank you for being a part of the 'Barnstorming' movie. I loved it,
and my wife (who is not quite as brainwashed as I, but still enthusiastic)
liked it as well.
Finally, I'll second your endorsement of 'Dark Blue World'. A very good
movie....had some nice flying sequences in it, especially considering when
it was filmed and that it is not a major US studio production. The story is
told well to boot. It made me place an order for the 'Piece of Cake'
DVD...should fit well next the 'Battle of Britain' DVD. :P
Will you make it to Grassroots this year?
Have a good night,
Ryan
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 11:55 PM, Baldeagle <baldeagle27@earthlink.net>wrote:
> baldeagle27@earthlink.net>
>
> I spent 11 weeks in England working on Flyboys, 35 hours of flying and lots
> of taxiing on the ground, and figure I might have 2 minutes on screen.
> Everything above 500 feet was CGI, I guess the low stuff around the trees
> was too hard to do. And there were some things in the script I wish they'd
> changed, but it was a blast doing it, the people were great, and it paid
> well (Imagine getting paid to fly around down valleys and between trees).
> I hate to see it criticized because I know how much work went into it, but
> I understand the criticisms. And it was independantly financed, so they had
> to squeeze a $100 mil movie into a $60 mil budget.
>
> As for other movies, "Always" is good, it has airplanes, and my girlfriend
> cried, so what more can you ask for?
>
> Also, do not miss "Dark Blue World", trust me.
>
>
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| Subject: | Cool girls have Dads that own a Pietenpol... |
Well done, Ryan!
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(13 ribs down.)
Do not archive
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Mueller
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 8:40 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Cool girls have Dads that own a Pietenpol...
Dan Yocum put a pic of his girls trying out the Piet cockpits for size on
Facebook, and invited a Fark style photoshop job. Here's my offering:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/rmueller23/3835115733/sizes/o/
It's done rather quickly, and I had to use an unfamiliar program; I
'GIMP'ed' it, as I don't have Photoshop on this machine right now since
installing Windows 7. As such I apologize for the quality, but there ya have
it...
Have a good night all,
Ryan
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