---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 08/19/09: 32 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:09 AM - Re: Re: TGWP on Encore (mksoucy@yahoo.com) 2. 01:52 AM - Re: Re: TGWP on Encore (Terry Williams) 3. 04:09 AM - Re: judging videos/films (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]) 4. 04:25 AM - aviation movies (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]) 5. 04:34 AM - Re: Re: skid ball source (helspersew@aol.com) 6. 04:37 AM - The Blue Max, 1965 Trailer (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]) 7. 04:37 AM - TGWP, kids, and photoshop (Dan Yocum) 8. 05:14 AM - Re: judging videos/films (Bill Church) 9. 05:19 AM - Re: Re: TGWP on Encore (Bill Church) 10. 05:28 AM - Re: The Blue Max, 1965 Trailer (Gary Boothe) 11. 07:10 AM - Re: Cool girls have Dads that own a Pietenpol... (Dan Yocum) 12. 07:44 AM - Tapered shaft Dimensions? (TOPGUN) 13. 07:55 AM - Re: TGWP on Encore (Baldeagle) 14. 08:22 AM - Re: Re: TGWP on Encore (Owen Davies) 15. 09:11 AM - Interesting Altimeter [was: Re: Re: skid ball] (Dan Yocum) 16. 09:23 AM - Interesting Altimeter [was: Re: skid ball] (K5YAC) 17. 09:27 AM - Re: Tapered shaft Dimensions? (Gene & Tammy) 18. 10:09 AM - Re: Interesting Altimeter [was: Re: skid ball] (Ryan Mueller) 19. 10:19 AM - Re: skid ball (BYD) 20. 10:25 AM - Interesting Altimeter [was: Re: skid ball] (K5YAC) 21. 10:44 AM - Re: Interesting Altimeter [was: Re: skid ball] (Bill Church) 22. 10:51 AM - Re: Tapered shaft Dimensions? (TOPGUN) 23. 11:12 AM - Re: Interesting Altimeter [was: Re: Re: skid ball] (jb.spiegel@us.schneider-electric.com) 24. 11:23 AM - Re: Tapered shaft Dimensions? (TOPGUN) 25. 11:25 AM - Re: Tapered shaft Dimensions? (Ben Charvet) 26. 04:41 PM - Re: Pieti Lowell speaks! (Mark Roberts) 27. 05:19 PM - Re: Pieti Lowell speaks! (Jim Markle) 28. 05:50 PM - Re: Re: TGWP on Encore (Darrel Jones) 29. 07:12 PM - Re: Pieti Lowell speaks! (Jeff Boatright) 30. 07:24 PM - Re: Re: skid ball (Gary Boothe) 31. 07:31 PM - Re: Pieti Lowell speaks! (Mark Roberts) 32. 07:58 PM - Re: Re: TGWP on Encore (Gary Boothe) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:09:02 AM PST US From: "mksoucy@yahoo.com" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: TGWP on Encore What is mike cuy's movie? Mike Sent from my iPod On Aug 18, 2009, at 11:29 PM, "Michael McGowan" wrote: Yes His Royal Majesty Paul was still running the show Mike McGowan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Max Hegler" Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 8:40 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: TGWP on Encore Oh, com'on you must be fantasizing! Reasonable prices, no plastic planes, not charging for everything??? That must have been before HRH Tom Poberesny... On 8/18/09 7:18 PM, "Michael McGowan" wrote: What you guys should try watching is Those Magnificent Men in Their Flying Machines instead. The aircraft are much closer in spirit to the Piet and the flying is all real. They used to show this movie for free in the campground at night during the Rockford flyin. I got to see it about six times. For those of you who don't remember Rockford that was before Oshkosh, the prices were reasonable, the people friendly and the airplanes were not plastic. Also they didn't charge extra for every little thing. There was even a Pietenpol there with two Continental 65 engines in the nose driving counter rotating props. Mike McGowan shadetree@socket.net building rib jig long fuselage Model A ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Emch" Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 5:48 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: TGWP on Encore Bill, I have to agree with you. I'm sure a lot of the true flying scenes got dumped in favor of being able to win over the general public. I also think the CGI scenes were a little cheesy. I remember a documentary that was made just to show how the scenes were computer generated. I think a documentary about how the flying scenes were filmed would have been much more fascinating. But I guess we do have to realize what society finds interesting is not really what we find interesting. Maybe us Pieters don't really fit that well into society, Ha! That being said I still really did like the movie! As for TGWP, for some reason every time I watch it I feel a little depressed afterwards, it really is kind of a dumb movie. But man I sure do like it! Like I said, us Pieters may not really fit that well into society. But hey, that's fine with me! Don Emch NX899DE P.S. What we really need is more movies like Mike Cuy's. I really love it and my wife falls asleep. Not a bad thing. Just don't tell her I said that. please do not archive my bad attempt to rate a movie Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=258531#258531 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 01:52:56 AM PST US From: Terry Williams <7ecapilot@comcast.net> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: TGWP on Encore Dark Blue World is excellent! http://www.sonyclassics.com/darkblueworld/index-withflash.html O.K. So, this has turned from "I hate that movie and George Peppard (The A-Team pilot notwithstanding)" to "I love that movie." So, here is my list of those I thought were pretty cool (in no particular order): Dark Blue World The Flight of Phoenix The Bridges at Toko Ri 12 o'clock High The Battle of Britain Those Magnificent Men in Their Flying Machines The Great Waldo Pepper (yes, I like it) Thirty Seconds Over Tokyo The Right Stuff The Dam Busters Top Gun One Six Right Flyboys (thought it was OK) Strategic Air Command Always Memphis Belle The Blue Max Tora! Tora! Tora! Midway (this is really just continuation of T!T!T! ; some of the same footage) Some pretty hokey movies that had good flying scenes: Jet Pilot Cloud Dancer (great flying, but really bad movie) Hells Angels Air America Forever Young Pearl Harbor Flight of the Intruder Flying Tigers 633 Squadron (this actually wasn't too bad a movie. There is some great flying scenes, but pretty bad special effects; consider the era, though) Really bad movies: Iron Eagle (all of them) Slipstream (pretty much as bad as Enemy Mine) Cloud Dancer (had to put this in this category too; really horrible; turn the sound down) > > I spent 11 weeks in England working on Flyboys, 35 hours of flying > and lots of taxiing on the ground, and figure I might have 2 > minutes on screen. Everything above 500 feet was CGI, I guess the > low stuff around the trees was too hard to do. And there were some > things in the script I wish they'd changed, but it was a blast > doing it, the people were great, and it paid well (Imagine getting > paid to fly around down valleys and between trees). I hate to see > it criticized because I know how much work went into it, but I > understand the criticisms. And it was independantly financed, so > they had to squeeze a $100 mil movie into a $60 mil budget. > > As for other movies, "Always" is good, it has airplanes, and my > girlfriend cried, so what more can you ask for? > > Also, do not miss "Dark Blue World", trust me. > > > - > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=258614#258614 > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:09:25 AM PST US From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: judging videos/films I must install some new rings soon....Col. Gantzer too. Always check your axel nuts before takeoff I say...... From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-lis t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Boothe Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 10:05 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: judging videos/films [cid:image001.gif@01CA209B.E2CE21A0] Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion Tail done, Fuselage on gear (13 ribs down...) -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-lis t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerosp ace Corporation] Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 6:05 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: judging videos/films space Corporation]" But what do I know about cinema - I actually like Mike Cuy's video. Bill C. Good Lord, I've always had such respect for Bill Church 0)ntil I read this above:) Kidding Bill and thank you. I guess I'm all about real scenes in any airplane related footage-- that's why I like "Barnstorming" so well and things like PBS specials on aviation. (History Channel, things like t hat of course too) What I really enjoyed were all the videos you guys so generously took and t hen posted on YouTube---very cool. I think my Mother has made those "number of view" counts go up tremendously if I tell her I'm in the scene:) Mike C. (do OSH and BHD go by fast or what ?0) ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 04:25:12 AM PST US From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]" Subject: Pietenpol-List: aviation movies To me one of the funniest airplane movies scenes was during the opening of Airplane when you hear radials of an old DC-6 but then see a Boeing 707 airliner emerge from the c louds. (with the theme song from Jaw's playing in the background) My pilot friend and I were the only ones in the entire theater laughing. "so Johnny, have you ever been to a Turkish spa ?" Lloyd Bridges....'p icked a bad week to stop sniffing glue'. I agree with Don Emch regarding how TGWP can be depressing. If watching a t home I only watch the first 2/3rds and then pull the plug on it. That scene with Frank Tallman flyin g down Main Street with only five or six feet to spare on his wingtips from the storefronts. Stellar flying. [cid:image001.jpg@01CA209E.1FE67900] ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 04:34:46 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: skid ball source From: helspersew@aol.com You can buy all different sized steel balls at McMastercarr.com. Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. -----Original Message----- From: Gary Boothe Sent: Tue, Aug 18, 2009 5:21 pm Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: skid ball BYD (?), I like that! Just where does one find one ball bearing? Last night I broke open a spray can (cfc's flying everywhere...global warming an imminent result), to find that the 'rattle' is marble that's too big. Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion Tail done, Fuselage on gear (13 ribs down.) -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of BYD Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 10:28 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: skid ball Here is a simple slip/skid I made for my project. It's a ball-bearing in a plastic tube filled with baby oil and capped with bolts at each end. May not be accurate - but I usually just want to confirm that I'm slipping or skidding and don't care by how much. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=258467#258467 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/panel_148.jpg ==== ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 04:37:00 AM PST US From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]" Subject: Pietenpol-List: The Blue Max, 1965 Trailer I always wondered why my Dad loved this film. After seeing the movie a fe w years ago at Brodhead I realized that Dad's enjoyment of this film had little to do with his love of airplan es and aviation but had everything to do with George Peppard getting to do naughty things with the General's beautif ul wife Ursula Andress. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Efc6Y6LCuuc ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 04:37:56 AM PST US From: Dan Yocum Subject: Pietenpol-List: TGWP, kids, and photoshop Thanks to Ryan, I now have a picture of my girls "flying" in my piet, replete with reference to The Great Waldo Pepper: http://www.flickr.com/photos/rmueller23/3835115733/sizes/o/ I now return you to your regularly scheduled Pietenpol discussions. As you were. do not archive -- Dan Yocum Fermilab 630.840.6509 yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov Fermilab. Just zeros and ones. ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:14:31 AM PST US Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: judging videos/films From: "Bill Church" Whew, glad you wrote that you were kidding. That was kind of scary thinking that anyone had respect for me... Bill C. -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation] Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:05 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: judging videos/films --> Aerospace Corporation]" Good Lord, I've always had such respect for Bill Church 0)ntil I read this above:) Kidding Bill and thank you. Mike C. ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 05:19:52 AM PST US Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: TGWP on Encore From: "Bill Church" Having said what I've said about Flyboys, let me just add that I only own about 5 or 6 DVD movies ... And Flyboys is one of them. So go figure. Bill C. P.S. Society is over-rated -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don Emch Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 6:49 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: TGWP on Encore Bill, I have to agree with you. I'm sure a lot of the true flying scenes got dumped in favor of being able to win over the general public. I also think the CGI scenes were a little cheesy. I remember a documentary that was made just to show how the scenes were computer generated. I think a documentary about how the flying scenes were filmed would have been much more fascinating. But I guess we do have to realize what society finds interesting is not really what we find interesting. Maybe us Pieters don't really fit that well into society, Ha! That being said I still really did like the movie! As for TGWP, for some reason every time I watch it I feel a little depressed afterwards, it really is kind of a dumb movie. But man I sure do like it! Like I said, us Pieters may not really fit that well into society. But hey, that's fine with me! Don Emch NX899DE P.S. What we really need is more movies like Mike Cuy's. I really love it and my wife falls asleep. Not a bad thing. Just don't tell her I said that. please do not archive my bad attempt to rate a movie ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 05:28:33 AM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: The Blue Max, 1965 Trailer "They play war games." Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion Tail done, Fuselage on gear (13 ribs down.) _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation] Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 4:32 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: The Blue Max, 1965 Trailer I always wondered why my Dad loved this film. After seeing the movie a few years ago at Brodhead I realized that Dad's enjoyment of this film had little to do with his love of airplanes and aviation but had everything to do with George Peppard getting to do naughty things with the General's beautiful wife Ursula Andress. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Efc6Y6LCuuc ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 07:10:46 AM PST US From: Dan Yocum Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Cool girls have Dads that own a Pietenpol... Oh, if I had caught up on the email from last night... Thanks, by the way! ;-) do not archive Ryan Mueller wrote: > Dan Yocum put a pic of his girls trying out the Piet cockpits for size > on Facebook, and invited a Fark style photoshop job. Here's my offering: > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/rmueller23/3835115733/sizes/o/ > > It's done rather quickly, and I had to use an unfamiliar program; I > 'GIMP'ed' it, as I don't have Photoshop on this machine right now since > installing Windows 7. As such I apologize for the quality, but there ya > have it... > > Have a good night all, > > Ryan > > * > > > * -- Dan Yocum Fermilab 630.840.6509 yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov Fermilab. Just zeros and ones. ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 07:44:33 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Tapered shaft Dimensions? From: "TOPGUN" Hi all, I attached a file showing the generic Continental tapered crank end (sae0), does anyone have the dimensions I have called out? Also, do you have or know where I can buy the std prop hub, nut sleeve and key for one of these engines? Thanks !! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=258667#258667 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/prop_extension_layout_142.pdf ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 07:55:08 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: TGWP on Encore From: "Baldeagle" Worst airplane movie ever: "Thunder Over Reno" I will be at Brodhead for Grass Roots next month, with the whirlybird. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=258668#258668 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 08:22:20 AM PST US From: Owen Davies Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: TGWP on Encore Terry Williams wrote: > Dark Blue World > The Flight of Phoenix > The Bridges at Toko Ri > 12 o'clock High > The Battle of Britain > Those Magnificent Men in Their Flying Machines > The Great Waldo Pepper (yes, I like it) > Thirty Seconds Over Tokyo > The Right Stuff > The Dam Busters > Top Gun > One Six Right > Flyboys (thought it was OK) > Strategic Air Command > Always > Memphis Belle > The Blue Max > Tora! Tora! Tora! > Midway (this is really just continuation of T!T!T! ; some of the same > footage) Haven't seen Dark Blue World, the remake of Flight of the Phoenix, One Six Right, Flyboys, or Always (that title sounds like a remake of A Guy Named Joe.) I'll have to look for them. Thanks for mentioning Those Magnificent Men in Their Flying Machines. I haven't seen it in at least three months. (Where's my DVD? It's gotta be here somewhere.) Always a joy! As for "some of the same footage," how many movies have used that film of the guy blowing his carrier landing and skidding into the island? > Some pretty hokey movies that had good flying scenes: > > Air America Only one from this list I remember well enough to comment on. Loved it for the humor and the uphill landing. Always wanted to fly one of those. Thanks for the reminders. Owen ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 09:11:38 AM PST US From: Dan Yocum Subject: Interesting Altimeter [was: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: skid ball] Speaking of interesting instruments, N8031 has an altimeter I've never seen before. Here's a picture of it (click on the image for high resolution version): http://5n429glenoak.homelinux.net/gallery/N8031/img_2521 It doesn't have the typical window that displays the barometric pressure, but it does have a little tiny triangle that runs around on the outside edge of the graduations (it's right about the word "of feet" sitting at the 45' altitude mark). I've verified that this triangle moves around the perimeter based on differing barometric pressure, but I'll be darned if it makes any sense. Does anyone know how this works? Thanks, Dan -- Dan Yocum Fermilab 630.840.6509 yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov Fermilab. Just zeros and ones. ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 09:23:45 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Interesting Altimeter [was: Re: skid ball] From: "K5YAC" Look at the photo again... there is another triangle (pointer) on the inside ring (just to the right of zero). Also, on the inside of the altitude markings (0, 5, 10, 15) there are other markings that read 20, 25, 30, 35 respectively. Those might have something to do with the barometric pressure, right? I mean, they are in the right range... perhaps the outer is an incremental measurement? What a cool instrument. -------- Mark - working on wings Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=258690#258690 ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 09:27:21 AM PST US From: "Gene & Tammy" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Tapered shaft Dimensions? The best place I've found for small Continental parts with the best price, is Woody Herman. 715-967-2119 or 1-800-279-3168 He travels a lot so if he doesn't answer, leave a msg and he will get back with you. He checks his msg often. Gene in Tennessee N502R ----- Original Message ----- From: "TOPGUN" Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 9:44 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Tapered shaft Dimensions? > > Hi all, > > I attached a file showing the generic Continental tapered crank end > (sae0), does anyone have the dimensions I have called out? > Also, do you have or know where I can buy the std prop hub, nut sleeve and > key for one of these engines? > > Thanks !! > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=258667#258667 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/prop_extension_layout_142.pdf > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 06:03:00 ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 10:09:43 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Interesting Altimeter [was: Re: skid ball] From: Ryan Mueller Mark, I like your theory...it looks like it would make sense. One thing though....the altimeter is reading approximately 945 ft, let's say. Olson's elevation is listed at 955, so that should be about right. This would make the barometric pressure, according to the inside ring, approximately 20". That's reeeeeally low. I think the lowest ever recorded was somewhere around 25". At least that is how that would appear to read to me. I could be completely wrong. I don't know how the pressure works on that kind either. :P Ryan do not archive On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 11:23 AM, K5YAC wrote: > > Look at the photo again... there is another triangle (pointer) on the > inside ring (just to the right of zero). Also, on the inside of the > altitude markings (0, 5, 10, 15) there are other markings that read 20, 25, > 30, 35 respectively. Those might have something to do with the barometric > pressure, right? I mean, they are in the right range... perhaps the outer > is an incremental measurement? > > What a cool instrument. > > -------- > Mark - working on wings > ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 10:19:14 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: skid ball From: "BYD" > Just where does one find one ball bearing? Gary, All items, except the baby oil were obtained from ACE Aeromotive (ACE Hardware). The ball bearing was in the section of fasteners where there are rows of drawers with screws, bolts, springs and such. Get the plastic tube first and then pick a bearing size that fits well and a couple of short bolts that lightly thread into the ends. A small piece of brass is all thats needed but if you cant find any, look for a door kick-plate itll give your shop a supply of brass for many projects. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=258702#258702 ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 10:25:00 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Interesting Altimeter [was: Re: skid ball] From: "K5YAC" Ahhh, good point Ryan. I didn't even think to consider where the darn pointers were actually pointing. Real attention to detail, eh? Somebody batter help me keep an eye on my build. [Rolling Eyes] -------- Mark - working on wings Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=258703#258703 ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 10:44:06 AM PST US Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Interesting Altimeter [was: Re: skid ball] From: "Bill Church" I don't have the real answer you're looking for, but I'm pretty darn sure that the 20, 25, 30, 35 markings are for thousands of feet, after the indicator has made a full revolution (20,000 ft per revolution). The 0, 5, 10, 15 are for the first revolution, and 20, 25, 30, 35 are for the second revolution. Not likely to be very relevant for a Piet. It may be that this altimeter is the old style where you don't need t know the barometric pressure, just the elevation you're at. Turn the adjustment knob until the altimeter reads the correct altitude and you're ready to go. But that doesn't explain what the little triangle markings are for. Bill C ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 10:51:48 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Tapered shaft Dimensions? From: "TOPGUN" Thanks, i'll give him a call. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=258705#258705 ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 11:12:43 AM PST US Subject: Re: Interesting Altimeter [was: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: skid ball] From: jb.spiegel@us.schneider-electric.com Possibly a Kollsman Altimeter built for the US Army, prior to the implementation of the Kollsman window. Possibly assembled by Square D Company. Jake Dan Yocum Sent by: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com 08/19/2009 11:05 AM Please respond to pietenpol-list@matronics.com To pietenpol-list@matronics.com cc Subject Interesting Altimeter [was: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: skid ball] Speaking of interesting instruments, N8031 has an altimeter I've never seen before. Here's a picture of it (click on the image for high resolution version): http://5n429glenoak.homelinux.net/gallery/N8031/img_2521 It doesn't have the typical window that displays the barometric pressure, but it does have a little tiny triangle that runs around on the outside edge of the graduations (it's right about the word "of feet" sitting at the 45' altitude mark). I've verified that this triangle moves around the perimeter based on differing barometric pressure, but I'll be darned if it makes any sense. Does anyone know how this works? Thanks, Dan -- Dan Yocum Fermilab 630.840.6509 yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov Fermilab. Just zeros and ones. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for SPAM content and Viruses by the MessageL abs Email Security System. ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 11:23:50 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Tapered shaft Dimensions? From: "TOPGUN" Thanks, i'll give him a call. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=258709#258709 ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 11:25:34 AM PST US From: Ben Charvet Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Tapered shaft Dimensions? I bought one from e-bay a few years ago that I'm not using. Back then they were running around $200 used. Recently I've seen them for less. You can get a new one from Fresno Airparts for $495 last time I looked.. Ben TOPGUN wrote: > > Hi all, > > I attached a file showing the generic Continental tapered crank end (sae0), does anyone have the dimensions I have called out? > Also, do you have or know where I can buy the std prop hub, nut sleeve and key for one of these engines? > > Thanks !! > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=258667#258667 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/prop_extension_layout_142.pdf > > > ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 04:41:54 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pieti Lowell speaks! From: Mark Roberts Hey Jeff! Thanks for taking the time to post this... I've been waiting eagerly to watch! Mark On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 7:46 PM, wrote: > Jeff > > Thanks I really appreciate your recording that talk. I wish I had sat in on > that. > > Thanks again > > John > > In a message dated 8/18/2009 9:43:05 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > jboatri@emory.edu writes: > > Links are to the seminar where Pieti Lowell (Frank) chats about his > experiments with Pietenpols. Included are discussions of the Riblett > airoils, fuel injection of a Ford Model B engine, and other performance > tweaks. Video in five parts. Note that I missed about the first minute - > sorry! - plus, the flies were terrible, so you'll see the video bounce > around a lot as I finally lose it a couple of times and swat at them. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unvGPeYrc3o > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHHnzw1V5FY > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYJ1QchJCeM > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLTDTEyhpGE > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNJI19K3POU > > -- > > > Jeff Boatright > "Now let's think about this..." > > * > > =================================== > t href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > ====================================ms.matronics.com/">http://forums.matronics.com > =================================== > tp://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > =================================== > * > > > ------------------------------ > > * > > * > > ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 05:19:21 PM PST US From: Jim Markle Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pieti Lowell speaks! totally agree!! I was really irked at myself for missing one of the only "events" I had wanted to sit through! Thanks Jeff. JM From: Mark Roberts Sent: Aug 19, 2009 7:39 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pieti Lowell speaks! Hey Jeff! Thanks for taking the time to post this... I've been waiting eagerly to watch! Mark ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 05:50:24 PM PST US From: Darrel Jones Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: TGWP on Encore Terry Williams wrote: > <7ecapilot@comcast.net> > > Dark Blue World is excellent! > > http://www.sonyclassics.com/darkblueworld/index-withflash.html > > O.K. So, this has turned from "I hate that movie and George Peppard > (The A-Team pilot notwithstanding)" to "I love that movie." > > So, here is my list of those I thought were pretty cool (in no > particular order): Thanks Terry for the great flying movie list! The one I forgot to put on my list, even though it's a bit corny by today's standards is "Wings". Made in 1927, it is a silent film and won the first Academy Award for Best Picture. Clara Bow, the "It Girl", Richard Arlen and Buddy Rogers. Lots of real World War I airplanes flying with a real Fokker D.VII crash. I've got it on tape but haven't seen it come up on DVD on Netflix. Maybe if we all start asking they will get it. Darrel Jones Sonoma, CA ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 07:12:02 PM PST US From: Jeff Boatright Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pieti Lowell speaks! My pleasure. BTW, the filming gets better after the first couple of minutes. I arrived late and was squirming around to figure out a way to support the camera know that the talk was scheduled for an hour. > > >totally agree!! I was really irked at myself for missing one of the >only "events" I had wanted to sit through! > >Thanks Jeff. >JM > > >From: Mark Roberts > >Sent: Aug 19, 2009 7:39 PM > >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pieti Lowell speaks! > >Hey Jeff! Thanks for taking the time to post this... I've been >waiting eagerly to watch! > >Mark > ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 07:24:13 PM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: skid ball Cool! Thanks, BYD. I'm all over it... Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion Tail done, Fuselage on gear (13 ribs down) -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of BYD Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 10:19 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: skid ball > Just where does one find one ball bearing? Gary, All items, except the baby oil were obtained from ACE Aeromotive (ACE Hardware). The ball bearing was in the section of fasteners where there are rows of drawers with screws, bolts, springs and such. Get the plastic tube first and then pick a bearing size that fits well and a couple of short bolts that lightly thread into the ends. A small piece of brass is all thats needed but if you cant find any, look for a door kick-plate itll give your shop a supply of brass for many projects. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=258702#258702 ________________________________ Message 31 ____________________________________ Time: 07:31:29 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pieti Lowell speaks! From: Mark Roberts I just finished all 5 videos, and I loved what I was able to glean from the talk. I am 6'4" and 245 lbs (or as my flight instructor would say when doing weight and balance figures "Yeah, but what do you weigh with all your clothes ON!"... OK 255 lbs all up weight...) and have been concerned with the 'unknown' of the 612. It almost sounds like if you want an even better lifting wing, Lowell suggests the 613.5. Decisions Decisions... Thanks again Jeff! Mark On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Jeff Boatright wrote: > > My pleasure. BTW, the filming gets better after the first couple of > minutes. I arrived late and was squirming around to figure out a way to > support the camera know that the talk was scheduled for an hour. > > >> jim_markle@mindspring.com> >> >> >> totally agree!! I was really irked at myself for missing one of the only >> "events" I had wanted to sit through! >> >> Thanks Jeff. >> JM >> >> >> >> >> From: Mark Roberts >> >> Sent: Aug 19, 2009 7:39 PM >> >> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pieti Lowell speaks! >> >> Hey Jeff! Thanks for taking the time to post this... I've been waiting >> eagerly to watch! >> >> Mark >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 32 ____________________________________ Time: 07:58:49 PM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: TGWP on Encore GUYS!!! I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU ALL LEFT OUT "DAWN PATROL!!!" WHAT AMERICAN COULD FORGET ERROL FLYNN? Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion Tail done, Fuselage on gear (13 ribs down.) -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Darrel Jones Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 5:46 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: TGWP on Encore Terry Williams wrote: > <7ecapilot@comcast.net> > > Dark Blue World is excellent! > > http://www.sonyclassics.com/darkblueworld/index-withflash.html > > O.K. So, this has turned from "I hate that movie and George Peppard > (The A-Team pilot notwithstanding)" to "I love that movie." > > So, here is my list of those I thought were pretty cool (in no > particular order): Thanks Terry for the great flying movie list! The one I forgot to put on my list, even though it's a bit corny by today's standards is "Wings". Made in 1927, it is a silent film and won the first Academy Award for Best Picture. Clara Bow, the "It Girl", Richard Arlen and Buddy Rogers. Lots of real World War I airplanes flying with a real Fokker D.VII crash. I've got it on tape but haven't seen it come up on DVD on Netflix. Maybe if we all start asking they will get it. 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