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1. 03:43 AM - Re: Re: This is too great not to share- Welcome (helspersew@aol.com)
2. 06:25 AM - Re: Brodhead pics (Gary Boothe)
3. 09:49 AM - Re: Re: This is too great not to share (amsafetyc@aol.com)
4. 11:43 AM - jumbo fuselage (stephen labash)
5. 11:48 AM - Jumbo fuselage (stephen labash)
6. 01:10 PM - Help Video, Engine Hoisting (Gary Boothe)
7. 01:39 PM - Re: Help Video, Engine Hoisting (Ryan Mueller)
8. 02:02 PM - Re: Help Video, Engine Hoisting (Mark Roberts)
9. 02:05 PM - Re: Jumbo fuselage (Jack Phillips)
10. 02:06 PM - Re: Jumbo fuselage (Mark Roberts)
11. 02:08 PM - Re: Help Video, Engine Hoisting (Tim Willis)
12. 02:10 PM - Re: Jumbo fuselage (Tim Willis)
13. 02:12 PM - Re: Jumbo fuselage (Gary Boothe)
14. 02:19 PM - Re: Help Video, Engine Hoisting (Gary Boothe)
15. 02:39 PM - Re: Brodhead pics (Mark Roberts)
16. 02:41 PM - Re: Jumbo fuselage (Mark Roberts)
17. 02:58 PM - Re: This is too great not to share (Mark Roberts)
18. 04:13 PM - Priceless (TOM MICHELLE BRANT)
19. 04:22 PM - Re: Help Video, Engine Hoisting (Michael Silvius)
20. 04:22 PM - Re: Priceless (Gary Boothe)
21. 04:31 PM - Re: Help Video, Engine Hoisting (Gary Boothe)
22. 04:34 PM - Re: Help Video, Engine Hoisting (Jim)
23. 05:11 PM - Randy Bush (Gary Boothe)
24. 05:11 PM - Re: Help Video, Engine Hoisting (Gary Boothe)
25. 05:42 PM - SR-71 off topic (Oscar Zuniga)
26. 05:52 PM - Re: Randy Bush (airlion)
27. 06:01 PM - Re: Priceless (TOM MICHELLE BRANT)
28. 06:07 PM - Re: Randy Bush (Gary Boothe)
29. 06:12 PM - Re: Priceless (Gary Boothe)
30. 06:40 PM - Re: Jumbo fuselage (Jack Phillips)
31. 06:41 PM - Re: Help Video, Engine Hoisting ()
32. 07:16 PM - Re: Help Video, Engine Hoisting (Gary Boothe)
33. 08:12 PM - Re: Re: Help Video, Engine Hoisting (Jim)
34. 09:54 PM - 4 foot center section (TOM MICHELLE BRANT)
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| Subject: | Re: This is too great not to share- Welcome |
Kelly,
Welcome to this list. You sound like a person who will have the sustainable tenacity
to be able to start, and actually finish a Pietenpol. A 35 year dream is
a long one. Most people have "dreams" that they discard like old shoes. I am
sure you will succeed.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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Ryan,
Who was that 'hot chick'? Can you get her phone # for me?....OUCH, what was
that? OH, it's my wife slapping me upside the head.
BTW - Jess was right. My wife really does want me to finish the kitchen
remodel! But the engine is going on the airframe this weekend!
Gary
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Mueller
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 9:41 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead pics
Just got an email yesterday from our friend Brian Law, a Chapter 431
volunteer. Brian was graciously storing our Piet until we found our new
digs, and he was the gentleman responsible for helping Jess serve the
fantastic pulled pork on Friday night, setting up the AV system so the
'Finding Flight' crew could show their movie, and helping to serve breakfast
on Saturday morning. Since he was stuck at his tasks for much of his time at
the flyin he asked if I could take some pictures of the Piet and Hatz areas
for 431's website, since he could not (he's also a computer guru, and runs a
business doing computer 'stuff'). I took my pics with that in mind, and I
think he got out later to take a few, and they have posted a selection of
those on the 431 website:
http://eaa431.org/images/piet_09/index.html
If you look on page 6, down on the bottom row, you will find a group of guys
and one hot chick watching Gardiner put his fingerprints all over Kurt
Shipman's purty Piet.
I can even prove it is Gardiner, as he was wearing the same outfit later on
that evening: http://www.flickr.com/photos/rmueller23/3844690202/sizes/l/.
;)
I know this is not in the same thread, but to Kelly: there are two concrete
steps you can take to become part of the Piet community. #1, buy a set of
plans (http://www.pressenter.com/~apietenp/) and start building. #2, buy a
plane ticket to Wisconsin and come to the Piet fly-in at Brodhead next year.
It will be the biggest 'shot-in-the-arm' inspiration you could ever hope to
find, and you will get to meet many of the really neat people that populate
this list. It really changes the perception from that of being a part of a
community on the 'net to one of being part of a community that just happens
to use the 'net to communicate, if that makes sense.
Have a good night,
Ryan
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| Subject: | Re: This is too great not to share |
Kelly
Welcome to the best avaition group ever. The people here you meet are always willing
to lend a hand, give advice and or at times shoot a flaming barb just to
see if you're really alive or just pretending. I have been on for a few years,
first as a lurker then as a builder.
I think you'll really enjoy it here. And thanks so much for the note its not every
day something you may do or say actually inspires someone to follow their
dreams.
Great stuff happens here and the kool stuff happens where the magic is, Brodhead
WI in July.
John
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From: regchief
Sender: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
ReplyTo: Pietenpol builders Board
Sent: Aug 21, 2009 11:39 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: This is too great not to share
Your post caused me to finally register . I have been lurking around for about
a year, hopefully to learn as much as I can, as I would like to build a piet in
my future. I happened to be a crew chief on KC-135's during a 16 year stint
in the air force, and was stationed at Beale from 1979-1983. The SR-71 program
was a wonderful time in my life, and I totally enjoyed watching the video and
remembering how many missions and how many times I watched the "sled" pull in
behind my airplane for some much needed gas. I am now a member of the Civil Air
Patrol,,, a chance to give back to younger people some of the great training
I had in the Air Force. I have recently trained for the first position in the
back seat of a CAP airplane, and hope that I will finally realize a 35 year
old dream to fly myself. Thanks again for the posts,, and hope to become part
of the Piet family here
Kelly James Bosley
Emergency Services Officer
CO-179
Pueblo,Colorado
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=259054#259054
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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Comments appreciated. I am 6'-3" 140#. I have extended fuselage 2 in. in
height and width and 10 in. in length. Continued the copilot cockpit dimen
sions back past pilot station. Spread the extra 10 inches between pilot sta
tion and tail wheel assembly. steve
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Comments appreciated. I am 6'-3" 140#. I have extended fuselage 2 in. in
height and width and 10 in. in length. Continued the copilot cockpit dimen
sions back past pilot station. Spread the extra 10 inches between pilot sta
tion and tail wheel assembly. 4130 steel fuselage. steve
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| Subject: | Help Video, Engine Hoisting |
List,
A milestone! After the obligatory honey-do's, I just got my engine on its
mount!
I live in the country, as Chris Tracy could verify, and getting help and
tool rentals is a bit of a stretch. I thought about hoisting the engine with
a block and tackle, but, how would I hold it up with one hand while pulling
the fuse in with the other?
I decided to utilize an ancient and proven method: Bury the fuselage in
sand and build a ramp up to the mount. I live in the woods, so finding logs
to roll the engine on was easy. Digging all that sand is a bit of a chore,
though.
For those that are interested in following this method, I have made a "Help"
video which I would be happy to sell for $15! ;-P
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(13 ribs down.)
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| Subject: | Re: Help Video, Engine Hoisting |
Congratulations Gary! You're going to have to change your signature now....
A Piet buried up to it's neck in sand....I'd like to see that. ;)
Ryan
do not archive
On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 3:04 PM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
> List,
>
>
> A milestone! After the obligatory honey-do=92s, I just got my engine on i
ts
> mount!
>
>
> I live in the country, as Chris Tracy could verify, and getting help and
> tool rentals is a bit of a stretch. I thought about hoisting the engine w
ith
> a block and tackle, but, how would I hold it up with one hand while pulli
ng
> the fuse in with the other?
>
>
> I decided to utilize an ancient and proven method: Bury the fuselage in
> sand and build a ramp up to the mount. I live in the woods, so finding lo
gs
> to roll the engine on was easy. Digging all that sand is a bit of a chore
,
> though.
>
>
> For those that are interested in following this method, I have made a
> =93Help=94 video which I would be happy to sell for $15! ;-P
>
>
> Gary Boothe
>
> Cool, Ca.
>
> Pietenpol
>
> WW Corvair Conversion
>
> Tail done, Fuselage on gear
>
> (13 ribs down=85)
>
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| Subject: | Re: Help Video, Engine Hoisting |
Congratulations Gary!
Now... where's a snappy line from TGWP that I could use here... "Would ya
mind proppin' my engine up for me...?"
No... No, I don't remember that one...
Can't wait to see pictures.
Mark
On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com> wrote:
> Congratulations Gary! You're going to have to change your signature now..
..
>
> A Piet buried up to it's neck in sand....I'd like to see that. ;)
>
> Ryan
>
> do not archive
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 3:04 PM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote
:
>
>> List,
>>
>>
>>
>> A milestone! After the obligatory honey-do=92s, I just got my engine on
its
>> mount!
>>
>>
>>
>> I live in the country, as Chris Tracy could verify, and getting help and
>> tool rentals is a bit of a stretch. I thought about hoisting the engine
with
>> a block and tackle, but, how would I hold it up with one hand while pull
ing
>> the fuse in with the other?
>>
>>
>>
>> I decided to utilize an ancient and proven method: Bury the fuselage in
>> sand and build a ramp up to the mount. I live in the woods, so finding l
ogs
>> to roll the engine on was easy. Digging all that sand is a bit of a chor
e,
>> though.
>>
>>
>>
>> For those that are interested in following this method, I have made a
>> =93Help=94 video which I would be happy to sell for $15! ;-P
>>
>>
>>
>> Gary Boothe
>>
>> Cool, Ca.
>>
>> Pietenpol
>>
>> WW Corvair Conversion
>>
>> Tail done, Fuselage on gear
>>
>> (13 ribs down=85)
>>
>
> *
>
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Only comment is =93Why?=94. You are =BD=94 taller than me and 60 lbs
lighter. I
would think you would have no problem fitting in a standard Piet
fuselage,
which is much lighter than an extended and widened one. But if it is
built
already, Press On!
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of stephen
labash
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 2:46 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Jumbo fuselage
Comments appreciated. I am 6'-3" 140#. I have extended fuselage 2 in.
in
height and width and 10 in. in length. Continued the copilot cockpit
dimensions back past pilot station. Spread the extra 10 inches between
pilot
station and tail wheel assembly. 4130 steel fuselage. steve
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| Subject: | Re: Jumbo fuselage |
That's interesting to me.... But of greatest interest is how you can be 6'3
"
and only 140#!!?? I saw that combo once (when I was 16) .... unfortunately
,
now I'm 6'4" 250# and wishin' I was 140 again! For years I was on the 'High
Weight gain' diet, but it was a delayed responce diet... :o\ Never worked
in High School, but at 33, it all caught up at once.
You're dimensions on the extra room is interesting to me as I have been in
the same boat wondering about some minor width and height adjustments. I
want to stuff as much of me in the cockpit as possible and still enjoy the
ride...
Did you make the extra 2" width at the pilot's seat and the depth in and
around the same area?
Mark
6'4", 250# and dieting on beer and pretzels...
On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 11:45 AM, stephen labash <slabash@hotmail.com>wrote
:
> Comments appreciated. I am 6'-3" 140#. I have extended fuselage 2 in.
> in height and width and 10 in. in length. Continued the copilot cockpit
> dimensions back past pilot station. Spread the extra 10 inches between pi
lot
> station and tail wheel assembly. 4130 steel fuselage. steve
>
> ------------------------------
> Hotmail=AE is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. Try it
> now.<http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=PID23391::T:WLMTAGL:ON:
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| Subject: | Re: Help Video, Engine Hoisting |
Gary,
I am too cheap to buy the video, but perhaps you would answer a few questions for
free:
1. How many mules, Egyptians, or slaves were involved?
2. Did you bury any of the slaves, treasure, etc., inside the sandpile after you
were done?
3. Do you expect to charge admittance to the sandpile as one of the X wonders
of the world?
4. Have you thought of licensing your video to the Pietenpol family, as an add-on
to the plan set?
At least you did not do what one Ph.D. in Missouri did. Doc Clark hung a chain
over a stout limb on an oak tree and hoisted the V-8 out of his Chevy, and all
was fine until the limb broke, totalling the car.
Tim in central TX
do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Boothe
Sent: Aug 22, 2009 4:04 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Help Video, Engine Hoisting
List,
A milestone! After the obligatory honey-dos, I just got my engine on its mount!
I live in the country, as Chris Tracy could verify, and getting help and tool rentals
is a bit of a stretch. I thought about hoisting the engine with a block
and tackle, but, how would I hold it up with one hand while pulling the fuse
in with the other?
I decided to utilize an ancient and proven method: Bury the fuselage in sand and
build a ramp up to the mount. I live in the woods, so finding logs to roll
the engine on was easy. Digging all that sand is a bit of a chore, though.
For those that are interested in following this method, I have made a Help video
which I would be happy to sell for $15! ;-P
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(13 ribs down)
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| Subject: | Re: Jumbo fuselage |
Stephen,
On the surface of things, you have made the plane tail-heavy, since you have moved
your butt back 10 inches, as I understand your description. However, (enviously
speaking) with a pilot weight of 140 pounds, you can likely accommodate
your changes and achieve a good CG-- a) depending upon engine choice and other
variables; or b) if only by tilting your cabanes back from vertical, so as
to move the wings rearward.
OTOH, speaking of cabanes, where will you mount the back ones? I ask because,
by lengthening the front pit, what did you do with that bulkhead, the location
where the fittings go to mount the rear cabane? If the bulkhead and passenger
seatback are integral and back 5 inches, for instance, you no longer have a
parallelogram, but a trapezoid, between the wing, the cabanes, and the fuze.
Is that clear? (The base of the trapezoid is now about 5 inches wider than its
top, at the wing.)
Thus, as you tilt your wing back, it will reduce the effective height of your front
cabane, as it does for us all, but INCREASE the effective height of your
rear cabane. You can still get the right set of the wing (2 degree positive incidence)
by adjusting the length of the rear cabane, but you need one height
for one angle the main cabanes. As you move the wing, you need a different height
of the rear cabane. Or you can install an adjustible fork, as on the wing
spars.
>From a strength perspective, having a trapezid instead of a parallelogram should
not make any difference, for you get your rigidity and strength fore-and-aft
from the triangulation provided by the diagonal cabane from the firewall.
I'd like to hear from other builders.
Tim in central TX
-----Original Message-----
From: stephen labash
Sent: Aug 22, 2009 2:45 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Jumbo fuselage
Comments appreciated. I am 6'-3" 140#. I have extended fuselage 2 in. in height
and width and 10 in. in length. Continued the copilot cockpit dimensions back
past pilot station. Spread the extra 10 inches between pilot station and tail
wheel assembly. 4130 steel fuselage. steve
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He doesn't cast a shadow, I'm thinkin'.
Gary
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Roberts
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 2:03 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Jumbo fuselage
That's interesting to me.... But of greatest interest is how you can be 6'3"
and only 140#!!?? I saw that combo once (when I was 16) .... unfortunately,
now I'm 6'4" 250# and wishin' I was 140 again! For years I was on the 'High
Weight gain' diet, but it was a delayed responce diet... :o\ Never worked
in High School, but at 33, it all caught up at once.
You're dimensions on the extra room is interesting to me as I have been in
the same boat wondering about some minor width and height adjustments. I
want to stuff as much of me in the cockpit as possible and still enjoy the
ride...
Did you make the extra 2" width at the pilot's seat and the depth in and
around the same area?
Mark
6'4", 250# and dieting on beer and pretzels...
On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 11:45 AM, stephen labash <slabash@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Comments appreciated. I am 6'-3" 140#. I have extended fuselage 2 in. in
height and width and 10 in. in length. Continued the copilot cockpit
dimensions back past pilot station. Spread the extra 10 inches between pilot
station and tail wheel assembly. 4130 steel fuselage. steve
_____
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WM_HYGN_faster:082009>
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| Subject: | Help Video, Engine Hoisting |
Tim,
All very thoughtful questions...don't be cheap...enquiring minds want to
know....
Gary
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Willis
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 2:09 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Help Video, Engine Hoisting
<timothywillis@earthlink.net>
Gary,
I am too cheap to buy the video, but perhaps you would answer a few
questions for free:
1. How many mules, Egyptians, or slaves were involved?
2. Did you bury any of the slaves, treasure, etc., inside the sandpile
after you were done?
3. Do you expect to charge admittance to the sandpile as one of the X
wonders of the world?
4. Have you thought of licensing your video to the Pietenpol family, as an
add-on to the plan set?
At least you did not do what one Ph.D. in Missouri did. Doc Clark hung a
chain over a stout limb on an oak tree and hoisted the V-8 out of his Chevy,
and all was fine until the limb broke, totalling the car.
Tim in central TX
do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Boothe
Sent: Aug 22, 2009 4:04 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Help Video, Engine Hoisting
List,
A milestone! After the obligatory honey-do's, I just got my engine on its
mount!
I live in the country, as Chris Tracy could verify, and getting help and
tool rentals is a bit of a stretch. I thought about hoisting the engine with
a block and tackle, but, how would I hold it up with one hand while pulling
the fuse in with the other?
I decided to utilize an ancient and proven method: Bury the fuselage in
sand and build a ramp up to the mount. I live in the woods, so finding logs
to roll the engine on was easy. Digging all that sand is a bit of a chore,
though.
For those that are interested in following this method, I have made a "Help"
video which I would be happy to sell for $15! ;-P
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(13 ribs down.)
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| Subject: | Re: Brodhead pics |
Great Pictures! I love the kinship that exists between folks that love
airplanes. I'm sure it exists with fanatics of other stuff too, but since I
don't care about other stuff, I can only say what a great bunch this one is
!
Mark
On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 6:01 AM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
> Ryan,
>
>
> Who was that =91hot chick=92? Can you get her phone # for me?....OUCH, wh
at was
> that? OH, it=92s my wife slapping me upside the head=85
>
>
> BTW ' Jess was right. My wife really does want me to finish the kitchen
> remodel! But the engine is going on the airframe this weekend!
>
>
> Gary
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Ryan Mueller
> *Sent:* Friday, August 21, 2009 9:41 PM
> *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Pietenpol-List: Brodhead pics
>
>
> Just got an email yesterday from our friend Brian Law, a Chapter 431
> volunteer. Brian was graciously storing our Piet until we found our new
> digs, and he was the gentleman responsible for helping Jess serve the
> fantastic pulled pork on Friday night, setting up the AV system so the
> 'Finding Flight' crew could show their movie, and helping to serve breakf
ast
> on Saturday morning. Since he was stuck at his tasks for much of his time
at
> the flyin he asked if I could take some pictures of the Piet and Hatz are
as
> for 431's website, since he could not (he's also a computer guru, and run
s a
> business doing computer 'stuff'). I took my pics with that in mind, and I
> think he got out later to take a few, and they have posted a selection of
> those on the 431 website:
>
> http://eaa431.org/images/piet_09/index.html
>
> If you look on page 6, down on the bottom row, you will find a group of
> guys and one hot chick watching Gardiner put his fingerprints all over Ku
rt
> Shipman's purty Piet.
> I can even prove it is Gardiner, as he was wearing the same outfit later
on
> that evening: http://www.flickr.com/photos/rmueller23/3844690202/sizes/l/
.
> ;)
>
> I know this is not in the same thread, but to Kelly: there are two concre
te
> steps you can take to become part of the Piet community. #1, buy a set of
> plans (http://www.pressenter.com/~apietenp/<http://www.pressenter.com/%7E
apietenp/>)
> and start building. #2, buy a plane ticket to Wisconsin and come to the P
iet
> fly-in at Brodhead next year. It will be the biggest 'shot-in-the-arm'
> inspiration you could ever hope to find, and you will get to meet many of
> the really neat people that populate this list. It really changes the
> perception from that of being a part of a community on the 'net to one of
> being part of a community that just happens to use the 'net to communicat
e,
> if that makes sense.
>
> Have a good night,
>
> Ryan
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| Subject: | Re: Jumbo fuselage |
Hey Jack!
Thanks for the comparison... The only real piet I've seen is Mike Groah's,
and I squeezed into the rear cockpit a bit 'snuggly'... I haven't thought
much about making it 'deeper' but I have thought about making the rear
cockpit 24" and begin the taper toward the rear at that point... I have not
started yet, but I am in the process of selling every stick of R/C model
stuff I have in the garage for the money and room to begin.
I am glad to know that it is possible to fly at my size, and I am really *
NOT* wanting to re-invent the plane! I am just considering the comfort
factor for me as a 'big boy'.
BTW, I was raised in NC for my '11-19 years' and moved back to CA to go to
college. I went to Apex High outside of Raleigh for one of my HS years... W
e
lived in Cary. Now all I can do is dream of getting out of here and back
there. Mom lives in Fayetteville and runs a boarding house there.
I miss Southern BBQ and hush puppies, and summer thunderstorms, and the
greenest trees in the country (at least the ones near the Raleigh airport
are... They seem to grow right up to the end of the runway!).
Mark
On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>wrot
e:
> Only comment is =93Why?=94. You are =BD=94 taller than me and 60 lbs li
ghter. I
> would think you would have no problem fitting in a standard Piet fuselage
,
> which is much lighter than an extended and widened one. But if it is bui
lt
> already, Press On!
>
>
> Jack Phillips
>
> NX899JP
>
>
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> *Sent:* Saturday, August 22, 2009 2:46 PM
> *To:* Pietenpol matronics; slabash@hotmail.com
> *Subject:* Pietenpol-List: Jumbo fuselage
>
>
> Comments appreciated. I am 6'-3" 140#. I have extended fuselage 2 in. i
n
> height and width and 10 in. in length. Continued the copilot cockpit
> dimensions back past pilot station. Spread the extra 10 inches between pi
lot
> station and tail wheel assembly. 4130 steel fuselage. steve
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| Subject: | Re: This is too great not to share |
Wow John, that was great!
Mark
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 7:39 PM, <AMsafetyC@aol.com> wrote:
> Hey guys, I have no intention interrupting the great riblet dispute but I
> in all good conscience could not keep this to myself,
>
> http://www.greatdanepromilitary.com/SR-71/index.htm
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10 hours of driving = sore back
Spar material for 1 wing and center section of Pietenpol = $250
Overnight night at hotel / water park = $160
Road trip with my wife and 3 year old = PRICELESS
Glad to finally have the spar material for one side of my Piet - at the rat
e I work=2C this should keep me busy at least for another year.
Tom B.
Brooklyn Park=2C MN
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| Subject: | Re: Help Video, Engine Hoisting |
Ok, a picture is worth a thousand words. We want to see one of that
operation.....
Michael in Maine
----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Boothe
List,
A milestone! After the obligatory honey-do's, I just got my engine on
its mount!
I live in the country, as Chris Tracy could verify, and getting help
and tool rentals is a bit of a stretch. I thought about hoisting the
engine with a block and tackle, but, how would I hold it up with one
hand while pulling the fuse in with the other?
I decided to utilize an ancient and proven method: Bury the fuselage
in sand and build a ramp up to the mount. I live in the woods, so
finding logs to roll the engine on was easy. Digging all that sand is a
bit of a chore, though.
For those that are interested in following this method, I have made a
"Help" video which I would be happy to sell for $15! ;-P
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Tom,
Spar, Wife, 3 year old.now, which one was priceless?
I'm running out of things to do on the fuse.guess I'll have to start on the
wings, too! Hope your ribs are getting done quicker than mine!
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion, mounted
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(13 ribs down.)
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of TOM MICHELLE
BRANT
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 4:13 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Priceless
10 hours of driving = sore back
Spar material for 1 wing and center section of Pietenpol = $250
Overnight night at hotel / water park = $160
Road trip with my wife and 3 year old = PRICELESS
Glad to finally have the spar material for one side of my Piet - at the rate
I work, this should keep me busy at least for another year.
Tom B.
Brooklyn Park, MN
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| Subject: | Help Video, Engine Hoisting |
Dang! And me with no Photoshop.
Gary
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael
Silvius
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 5:18 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Help Video, Engine Hoisting
Ok, a picture is worth a thousand words. We want to see one of that
operation.....
Michael in Maine
----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Boothe <mailto:gboothe5@comcast.net>
List,
A milestone! After the obligatory honey-do's, I just got my engine on its
mount!
I live in the country, as Chris Tracy could verify, and getting help and
tool rentals is a bit of a stretch. I thought about hoisting the engine with
a block and tackle, but, how would I hold it up with one hand while pulling
the fuse in with the other?
I decided to utilize an ancient and proven method: Bury the fuselage in
sand and build a ramp up to the mount. I live in the woods, so finding logs
to roll the engine on was easy. Digging all that sand is a bit of a chore,
though.
For those that are interested in following this method, I have made a "Help"
video which I would be happy to sell for $15! ;-P
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| Subject: | Re: Help Video, Engine Hoisting |
Jim Boyer
Santa Rosa, CA
Pietenpol builder with Corvair
Ah Gary, where did all the sand go? All I saw was the engine on the mount?
Jim B.
On Aug 22, 2009, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
List,
A milestone! After the obligatory honey-dos, I just got my engine on its mount!
I live in the country, as Chris Tracy could verify, and getting help and tool rentals
is a bit of a stretch. I thought about hoisting the engine with a block
and tackle, but, how would I hold it up with one hand while pulling the fuse
in with the other?
I decided to utilize an ancient and proven method: Bury the fuselage in sand and
build a ramp up to the mount. I live in the woods, so finding logs to roll the
engine on was easy. Digging all that sand is a bit of a chore, though.
For those that are interested in following this method, I have made a Help video
which I would be happy to sell for $15! ;-P
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done,Fuselageon gear
(13 ribs down)
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Does anyone have contact info for Randy?
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(13 ribs down.)
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| Subject: | Help Video, Engine Hoisting |
OK...OK. I was just kidding...
I really did use the block and tackle. The whole process took less than
5
minutes!! As is, that engine and I weigh about the same, so I tested the
attachment at the beam with my own weight. The hoisting apparatus is
rated
at 250#'s.
It doesn=92t take very much more weight to tip it up on its nose, so I
put a
plastic case of tire chains in the tail area.
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(13 ribs down=85)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 4:30 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Help Video, Engine Hoisting
Jim Boyer
Santa Rosa, CA
Pietenpol builder with Corvair
Ah Gary, where did all the sand go? All I saw was the engine on the
mount?
Jim B.
On Aug 22, 2009, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
List,
-
A milestone! After the obligatory honey-do=92s, I just got my engine on
its
mount!
-
I live in the country, as Chris Tracy could verify, and getting help and
tool rentals is a bit of a stretch. I thought about hoisting the engine
with
a block and tackle, but, how would I hold it up with one hand while
pulling
the fuse in with the other?
-
I decided to utilize an ancient and proven method:- Bury the fuselage
in
sand and build a ramp up to the mount. I live in the woods, so finding
logs
to roll the engine on was easy. Digging all that sand is a bit of a
chore,
though.
-
For those that are interested in following this method, I have made a
=93Help=94
video which I would be happy to sell for $15! ;-P
-
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done,-Fuselage-on gear
(13 ribs down=85)
-
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Speaking of the SR-71 (and related) aircraft-
I'm currently reading a great book, "Skunk Works",
by Ben Rich, former director of the Lockheed
Skunk Works. It is an amazingly frank and
detailed description of the development of the
F-117A, U-2, SR-71, and other stealth projects.
Great reading. Co-authored by the same guy who
co-authored "Yeager", which if you haven't read-
do so this winter!!!
Put another 0.9 on the A75 and it's purring like
a kitten. Too bumpy to run the Vx/Vy/best glide
testing I planned to do, so I'll have to try to
do that in the calm of the morning one day this
week. I'm past the halfway point on the test
time on the engine and it is now completely
leak-free and loosened up. And I think I'll
take the suggestion of adding a quick-drain to
the oil sump for that oil change that is coming
up at 10 hrs. since new.
Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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Gary, his number is 731 267 0578. Cheers, Gardiner=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A__________
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yeah=2C did the ribs 2 years ago - this is how it goes for me... A very l
ittle at a time. The spar material I got today will probably last me a yea
r or more before I start the other wing. Fuse and tail are pretty much don
e too. So once I get the center section done=2C I'll have to bite the bull
et and start doing the metal fittings and so forth.
Just a few short - or long - years away from completion.
Keep kicking on the ribs=2C they'll be done before you know it. I had fami
ly members come over and help on them and I asked them to put their name o
n the one they completed. Kindof a cool thought knowing you're hanging fro
m ribs built by your family members.
Tom B.
From: gboothe5@comcast.net
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Priceless
Tom=2C
Spar=2C Wife=2C 3 year old=85now=2C which
one was priceless?
I=92m running out of things to do on
the fuse=85guess I=92ll have to start on the wings=2C too! Hope your ribs
are getting done quicker than mine!
Gary Boothe
Cool=2C Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion=2C
mounted
Tail
done=2C Fuselage on gear
(13 ribs down=85)
From:
owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-serv
er@matronics.com]
On Behalf Of TOM MICHELLE BRANT
Sent: Saturday=2C August 22=2C 2009
4:13 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Priceless
10 hours of driving = sore back
Spar material for 1 wing and center section of Pietenpol = $250
Overnight night at hotel / water park = $160
Road trip with my wife and 3 year old = PRICELESS
Glad to finally have the spar material for one side of my Piet - at the rat
e I
work=2C this should keep me busy at least for another year.
Tom B.
Brooklyn Park=2C MN
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Thanks!!
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of airlion
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 5:51 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Randy Bush
Gary, his number is 731 267 0578. Cheers, Gardiner
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From: Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net>
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 7:50:39 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Randy Bush
Does anyone have contact info for Randy?
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(13 ribs down.)
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Tom,
Hat's off to you! I wish I had started building a Piet as a much younger
man. I know it's not easy with family, but you will be admired and respected
for your tenacity.a good role model.
Gary
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of TOM MICHELLE
BRANT
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 5:59 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Priceless
yeah, did the ribs 2 years ago - this is how it goes for me... A very
little at a time. The spar material I got today will probably last me a
year or more before I start the other wing. Fuse and tail are pretty much
done too. So once I get the center section done, I'll have to bite the
bullet and start doing the metal fittings and so forth.
Just a few short - or long - years away from completion.
Keep kicking on the ribs, they'll be done before you know it. I had family
members come over and help on them and I asked them to put their name on
the one they completed. Kindof a cool thought knowing you're hanging from
ribs built by your family members.
Tom B.
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From: gboothe5@comcast.net
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Priceless
Tom,
Spar, Wife, 3 year old.now, which one was priceless?
I'm running out of things to do on the fuse.guess I'll have to start on the
wings, too! Hope your ribs are getting done quicker than mine!
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion, mounted
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(13 ribs down.)
_____
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of TOM MICHELLE
BRANT
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 4:13 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Priceless
10 hours of driving = sore back
Spar material for 1 wing and center section of Pietenpol = $250
Overnight night at hotel / water park = $160
Road trip with my wife and 3 year old = PRICELESS
Glad to finally have the spar material for one side of my Piet - at the rate
I work, this should keep me busy at least for another year.
Tom B.
Brooklyn Park, MN
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I base my RV-4 at Cox Filed in Apex, NC. I used to keep the Pietenpol
there,but now keep it at our hangar at Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia.
Cox
is only 2,000=92 long with those tall trees you mentioned right at the
end of
the runway.
Jack
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark
Roberts
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Jumbo fuselage
Hey Jack!
Thanks for the comparison... The only real piet I've seen is Mike
Groah's,
and I squeezed into the rear cockpit a bit 'snuggly'... I haven't
thought
much about making it 'deeper' but I have thought about making the rear
cockpit 24" and begin the taper toward the rear at that point... I have
not
started yet, but I am in the process of selling every stick of R/C model
stuff I have in the garage for the money and room to begin.
I am glad to know that it is possible to fly at my size, and I am really
NOT
wanting to re-invent the plane! I am just considering the comfort factor
for
me as a 'big boy'.
BTW, I was raised in NC for my '11-19 years' and moved back to CA to go
to
college. I went to Apex High outside of Raleigh for one of my HS
years... We
lived in Cary. Now all I can do is dream of getting out of here and
back
there. Mom lives in Fayetteville and runs a boarding house there.
I miss Southern BBQ and hush puppies, and summer thunderstorms, and the
greenest trees in the country (at least the ones near the Raleigh
airport
are... They seem to grow right up to the end of the runway!).
Mark
On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
wrote:
Only comment is =93Why?=94. You are =BD=94 taller than me and 60 lbs
lighter. I
would think you would have no problem fitting in a standard Piet
fuselage,
which is much lighter than an extended and widened one. But if it is
built
already, Press On!
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of stephen
labash
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 2:46 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Jumbo fuselage
Comments appreciated. I am 6'-3" 140#. I have extended fuselage 2 in.
in
height and width and 10 in. in length. Continued the copilot cockpit
dimensions back past pilot station. Spread the extra 10 inches between
pilot
station and tail wheel assembly. 4130 steel fuselage. steve
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Nice Gary, but how's that kitchen remodel coming along?
Say aren't those the same 13 wing ribs you had done last year?
I got the center section fittings powder coated last night and will be
building the center section soon because all MY ribs are built.
Chris
Sacramento, CA
WestCoastPiet.com
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 4:49 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Help Video, Engine Hoisting
OK...OK. I was just kidding...
I really did use the block and tackle. The whole process took less than 5
minutes!! As is, that engine and I weigh about the same, so I tested the
attachment at the beam with my own weight. The hoisting apparatus is rated
at 250#'s.
It doesn't take very much more weight to tip it up on its nose, so I put a
plastic case of tire chains in the tail area.
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(13 ribs down.)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 4:30 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Help Video, Engine Hoisting
Jim Boyer
Santa Rosa, CA
Pietenpol builder with Corvair
Ah Gary, where did all the sand go? All I saw was the engine on the mount?
Jim B.
On Aug 22, 2009, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
List,
A milestone! After the obligatory honey-do's, I just got my engine on its
mount!
I live in the country, as Chris Tracy could verify, and getting help and
tool rentals is a bit of a stretch. I thought about hoisting the engine with
a block and tackle, but, how would I hold it up with one hand while pulling
the fuse in with the other?
I decided to utilize an ancient and proven method: Bury the fuselage in
sand and build a ramp up to the mount. I live in the woods, so finding logs
to roll the engine on was easy. Digging all that sand is a bit of a chore,
though.
For those that are interested in following this method, I have made a "Help"
video which I would be happy to sell for $15! ;-P
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(13 ribs down.)
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Yeah...yeah....yeah...
I did re-paint the deck this morning.
And I really tried to build another rib...but that engine kept calling...
Gary
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
catdesigns@att.net
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 6:40 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Help Video, Engine Hoisting
Nice Gary, but how's that kitchen remodel coming along?
Say aren't those the same 13 wing ribs you had done last year?
I got the center section fittings powder coated last night and will be
building the center section soon because all MY ribs are built.
Chris
Sacramento, CA
WestCoastPiet.com
Do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 4:49 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Help Video, Engine Hoisting
OK...OK. I was just kidding...
I really did use the block and tackle. The whole process took less than 5
minutes!! As is, that engine and I weigh about the same, so I tested the
attachment at the beam with my own weight. The hoisting apparatus is rated
at 250#'s.
It doesn't take very much more weight to tip it up on its nose, so I put a
plastic case of tire chains in the tail area.
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(13 ribs down.)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 4:30 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Help Video, Engine Hoisting
Jim Boyer
Santa Rosa, CA
Pietenpol builder with Corvair
Ah Gary, where did all the sand go? All I saw was the engine on the mount?
Jim B.
On Aug 22, 2009, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
List,
A milestone! After the obligatory honey-do's, I just got my engine on its
mount!
I live in the country, as Chris Tracy could verify, and getting help and
tool rentals is a bit of a stretch. I thought about hoisting the engine with
a block and tackle, but, how would I hold it up with one hand while pulling
the fuse in with the other?
I decided to utilize an ancient and proven method: Bury the fuselage in
sand and build a ramp up to the mount. I live in the woods, so finding logs
to roll the engine on was easy. Digging all that sand is a bit of a chore,
though.
For those that are interested in following this method, I have made a "Help"
video which I would be happy to sell for $15! ;-P
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(13 ribs down.)
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Jim Boyer
Santa Rosa, CA
Pietenpol builder with Corvair
Gotta stay focused Gary!
On Aug 22, 2009, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
Yeah...yeah....yeah...
I did re-paint the deck this morning.
And I really tried to build another rib...but that engine kept calling...
Gary
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
catdesigns@att.net
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 6:40 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Help Video, Engine Hoisting
Nice Gary, but how's that kitchen remodel coming along?
Say aren't those the same 13 wing ribs you had done last year?
I got the center section fittings powder coated last night and will be
building the center section soon because all MY ribs are built.
Chris
Sacramento, CA
WestCoastPiet.com
Do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 4:49 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Help Video, Engine Hoisting
OK...OK. I was just kidding...
I really did use the block and tackle. The whole process took less than 5
minutes!! As is, that engine and I weigh about the same, so I tested the
attachment at the beam with my own weight. The hoisting apparatus is rated
at 250#'s.
It doesn't take very much more weight to tip it up on its nose, so I put a
plastic case of tire chains in the tail area.
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(13 ribs down.)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 4:30 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Help Video, Engine Hoisting
Jim Boyer
Santa Rosa, CA
Pietenpol builder with Corvair
Ah Gary, where did all the sand go? All I saw was the engine on the mount?
Jim B.
On Aug 22, 2009, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
List,
A milestone! After the obligatory honey-do's, I just got my engine on its
mount!
I live in the country, as Chris Tracy could verify, and getting help and
tool rentals is a bit of a stretch. I thought about hoisting the engine with
a block and tackle, but, how would I hold it up with one hand while pulling
the fuse in with the other?
I decided to utilize an ancient and proven method: Bury the fuselage in
sand and build a ramp up to the mount. I live in the woods, so finding logs
to roll the engine on was easy. Digging all that sand is a bit of a chore,
though.
For those that are interested in following this method, I have made a "Help"
video which I would be happy to sell for $15! ;-P
Gary Boothe
Cool, Ca.
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
(13 ribs down.)
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| Subject: | 4 foot center section |
I know there are a number of builders who've opted for a 4 foot center sect
ion in order to use locally available 12'-0" long lumber for the outer wing
panels. Thing I don't get is=2C wouldn't those outer panels be 12'-6" for
the 29' wingspan? Also=2C looking for more info on the 4 foot center sect
ion if it's available. I'm pretty sure I had read that Steve Eldridge did
this among others but I can't seem to find any info in a search.
Tom B.
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